The Sake Education Show – Part 1 – Episode #693

June 23, 2009

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Beau Timken from True Sake visits the Thunder Show to teach Gary Vaynerchuk about Sake, a category he adores.

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  • “Stop interrupting your guests! You have great, interesting guests – l…” by ry
  • “Good learning and stuff……” by yowens
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  • ry
    Stop interrupting your guests! You have great, interesting guests - let them TALK!!! =) Excellent show, though!!!
  • yowens
    Good learning and stuff...
  • Dan-o
    Excellent show so far.............
  • I agree that Sake is great.. I love it! But, if you wanna feel great the next day after drinking wine, then drink more natural wine! No added sulfur, no guilt the next day!!
  • Tracy
    Oh my god I am exhausted from watching that episode. The constant interruptions were just brutal. Here you have this stellar guest who is just an absolute gem of a human being and so ready to share his hard won expertise with you and all of us but he could not get a word in edgewise. I love your enthusiasm, I think you are a wonderful guy but we can all learn more if you can just tone your mania down and allow other people to finish even ONE SENTENCE. Go back through your show and count how many times you destroyed your guests flow. Ugggghhhh. So many lost opportunities. You are a unique force of nature and that is great, and you communicate that in the first one minute of the show. Your challenge...should you have the fortitude to face it, is to make your energy a complement to your guest's and to care for and protect your guests ability to articulate their ideas...after all isn't that why you bring them on?
  • Scott
    Regarding my last comment, I just remembered you've had Kevin Rose on the show and may already have known everything I wrote. hehe oh well it was worth it.
  • Scott
    I love your tea show idea! I'm a big tea fan (love it more than wine :p ) and have always looked for a good resource. Speaking of which, I recently read a blog post by Kevin Rose (founder of Digg) concerning tea and while describing a tea he said "the way I'm describing this is very Gary Vaynerchuk." He apparently hangs out at a tea house in San Francisco called Samovar and is good friends with the people that run it, and they have a decent amount of tea information on their website (samovarlife.com). Now if only you could force yourself into their circle you'd be well on your way to starting TeaLibraryTV :)
  • Dude, please do more shows like this. These ROCKED!
  • Jeff
    What a great couple of episodes. I've long liked sake, and I was gratified that Gary decided to devote time to the subject. The enthusiasm that both Gary and his guest showed for the subject was infectious. I agree with some of the other comments that I wish Gary had not interrupted his guest so much. If Beau decides to do a sake show, I'll watch, and it would be great to see Gary be a guest; perhaps then they would be able to discuss sake in a more relaxed, deliberate fashion, which to my mind fits the subject. Awesome show, one of my favorites. And hey, I wouldn't mind seeing a beer episode (maybe with the guys from Diggnation?)

    Keep on keepin' on, Gary.
  • In general I liked the Sake episodes, parts 1 and 2 but also, in general, you're conversationus interruptus when you have a guest on. Constant interruptions, I felt like I wasn't getting all of what he wanted to put across. Your style of handling guests is a bit difficult for me to watch. Like others have pointed out. You bulldoze right over them.

    That said, I enjoyed learning about Sake and will definitely check out his web site. He was interesting, informative and well spoken. Really liked what he had to say.
  • qotd: Well the two major things I can think of right away would be when I had M. Chapoutier Crozes Hermitage Red I think it was a 2003 vintage with a Lamb dinner and it was fantastic (This is one that made me really intersting in wine)

    The other would be Beef Tongue, I had it once at a restaurant and it was really good, then a second Time I had it and it was fantastic and it made me want it cook it at home twice, tho the facts are it is a tongue and you have to clean it and its really really creepy.
  • afarya
    GARY,
    I long for the (not so old) time that your main focus was the viewer "education". Lately, it seems to me that you just have fun with the show for the sake of your own content and you have forgotten the main reason why viewers are taking time out of their busy daily life and spend it with you! I spend my time here to get 80% education and 20% entertainment. It might be fun to sit and talk with two other guys and just chit chat and digress on different issues as a pass time, but I would not broadcast it as an educational show. The amount of information should worth the time spent on watching the show, otherwise it is the definition of waste of time, which is not a business I would engage in for long.
  • YoungDave
    Excited to see the rest of this episode play out! Definitely interested in exploring Sake as much as possible...
  • GP
    Thank you thank you! Saah-kaay Ed!! Needed this, wanted this. I'm late getting to the shows this week, so I'm going straight over to part duex "mo-sko-shee" (don't know how to spell it in pinyin--or do they have pinyin for Japanese?--oh, sorry, I digress...)

    Last note before I flip to the continuation: I didn't think of him in any way other than the rice-wine-guy until he said he was a dork, then zowie! I Love the nerdy-guys: an educated mind is a turn-on! (Yes, I'm a girl.)
  • Jayhitek
    Good guest. Very entertaining.
    The porn rating reference to the erection and the bottle was damn funny.
  • TBA lover
    Gary, I've been hoping and waiting for a Sake show for months, thanks so much for bringing on someone who really has a passion for sake. It's hard to find info about sake, can't wait to view part 2. Keep bringing the passion!!!
  • Gary,

    Learn when to shut up dude! You are great, but this guy was the zen "wax on wax off" sake guy and you just powered over him. Let the guests talk if they have something to say!
  • David
    Five months ago I Had never tasted wine, then i started a new job as a waiter. I went to a wine tasting for my new job and since then ive been reading everything I can find on wine how its made and how to get the most out of it. I gave two speaches in my public speaking class, the first was on how they make wine and the second on how to taste wine. Doing research i found this site about a month ago and the whole experince has made me become not only a connoisseur of wine but of life in general. Ive only scratched the surface with wine and now this episode has sparked my interest in Sake Im sure I will have a hobby to keep me busy for a long time. Their will always be something new to learn. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
  • I'll join the camp of 'not terribly excited to learn of the topic, but really impressed after watching it'. I have some Japanese friends who have hooked me up with some serious sake - otherwise I would have never have tasted any either.
  • Dan
    Gary, I love ya man, but you should really have let the guest finish talking before you exploded. I know you have a lot of energy, but every time he got started on something, you were already asking another question or butting in. I know you've talked about why you do this, but it just bothers me.
    I loved this guest though! His zen attitude toward sake and life in general is gives off a really mellow vibe. He really knows his stuff!
  • Phredd
    Sorry, you lost me with this one. The guest has a great personality, but the show was a snoozer. I have no interest in sake. Might as well have a show about beer. (Please, no!) Pommeau or some other fruit wine would have been a better call. Even a distillate like cognac seems more palatable to me. Sorry, Gary. For the first time ever, I'm not looking forward to tomorrow's show.
  • This is awesome. I want to like sake so much, even have a book about it but I haven't found one that I like yet. Maybe I don't know how to taste it properly? I love the sake selector though. Will definitely be trying some soon.
  • PJ Rose
    Great guest he obviously had alot of interesting things to say about saki but you never gave him the OPPORTUNITY to complete what he was saying!
  • Pauli
    Meh, still not interested in Sake. Maybe I have only ever tried crap Sake, but I'm drinking beer with sushi and wine with everything else. Life is too short to spend it drinking fermented rice. Heck, I only get a couple of wine drinking nights per week -- I'll be damned if I'm going to waste one of them drinking friggin' Sake.
  • Great topic, great guest...BUT FOR GODS SAKE, why did you keep interrupting him? Halfway through I was almost screaming at the screen for you to let him finish a sentence without cutting him off. :(

    I hope part 2 lets him speak more.
  • You opened my eyes to Sake.
    I always pass the Sake booths at wine tastings.
    Not going to happen again.

    Thanks for doing what you do.
    Harp
  • That was fantastic. Great guest, great opportunity for him to speak. Great passion! Thanks.
  • Ah, the one that got away... Half French and half Italian goddess - she's about 1000 miles south of me in L.A. now. Sigh.

    I'm digging this guys enthusiasm- now give me part 2! :)
  • GV great to see you fired up about the Sake again....I had just re-watched episode #355 recently so the timing is great. Beau is doing a great thing in trying to spread the word and the knowledge...if I ever make it to San Fran I'm there.
    Can't tell you how many people I've met that had been turned off by rot gut cheap Japanese steak house sake, and how few were willing to give something better a try. I don't drink it nearly as much as I would like to since I find that the better stuff can price prohibitive. Back around 1991 a magnum of something basic and nice like BiShoNen went for about $18 down in Boston, now it is in the $65 range and they are like that pretty much across the board. So it is more of a special occasion thing, out for Japanese food, or at the dojo when the party starts.
  • Great episode, looking forward to the second part, the video from the new camera looks great. I like the new camera angle as well.
  • Just discovered he does not ship to my state so this decreases my interest in the web site.
  • Good web site though for those of us who already drink a lot of Sake, it is a little too much. Just show me inventory. My local Sushi bar has weekly tastings with a small sashimi plate for $15 so I have tried a lot. Interestingly, almost none of the Sakes that he has are on the inventory list. My favorite of late has been Ginban.
  • benricosan
    2 for 20 deal on the home page is a steal and a half...

    Although I am disconcerted that the bottle sizes are nowhere to be found, even on the checkout page. Obviously this needs fixing.
  • NY Pete
    hey Diego ... Beau looks like a very young Willem Dafoe imho ... :)
  • NY Pete
    what is going on?
  • looper
    Cant wait to see you guys taste this sake. This guy is awesome, and sake social is a great website. I have been reading since yesterday.
  • JasonA
    Wasnt sure at first if I would find this show as interesting as the ones about wine, but I really liked it. Looking forward to part II as you guys get to tasting some.

    Jason
  • Christopher Scoggin
    Awesome show! I love how you keep mixing it up.

    Tea Fridays FTW! Lets learn it together!
  • Ryan D
    I just checked out the website and I LOVED the way you can choose your tastes and preferences and it can narrow down the sake selection for you. I wouldn't be surprised if Gary V steals the idea and tries to implement something similar at winelibrary.com.

    Kudos. Unfortunately no online shipping from retailers here in Tennessee, but maybe I can try some.
  • Vyking
    The another sakai show and still no mead episode. hmmph
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