The Sake Education Show – Part 2

The Sake Education Show – Part 2 – Episode #694

June 24, 2009

Beau Timken continues teaching Gary Vaynerchuk about Sake while they taste 3 different kinds.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

Joto Chikurin Fukamari JunmaiJapanese Sake
Tsukinokatsura Yanagi “Willow Tree”
Taiheizan Tenko “Heavenly Grace”

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June 24, 2009

Biznas
This guy needs to be on the show again…… I want to get a bottle of Sake now.

QOTD: My first malbec wine was Catena Malbec 2005 made me want to go to Argentina and try every malbec possible.

Then there was the the first Super Burrito with al pastor I had… Eye opening
June 24, 2009

sam
After only two episodes, you two already look like you’re best friends!

Two passionate people seeking to share what drives them with the rest of the world. Both of you; keep doing what you do!

Gary, sidenote, in the US, you might be able to call any beverage you want a “wine”, but according to tradition in France and the INAO, only beverages coming from grape must can be called wine.

QOTD: Three years ago. Actually, my parents have been wine drinkers for a LOOOOOOOOONGGG time, and always did try to share their passion with me. But it was only about three summers ago, while visiting them in my home town, did I fall in love with RED wine. Today, I still drink many things: white wine, beer, brandy, but RED wine still holds a sacred place in my heart and soul.

Rock on!
June 24, 2009

Douglas Goodman
Awesome show. Awesome guest. Definately going to go out and try some sake.

GARY – DO A TEA EPISODE!!!!

QOTD: Tea is my epiphany beverage. Never used to drink it. Love the stuff now. Reading books on it. oh yeah, and wine too. haha,
June 24, 2009

Chateau_Plonk
Fantastic episode! Beau is easily one of the top 3 guests ever. I’m in your boat Gary, I love sake and have had some incredible ones but know very little about it. This is going to change.
QOTD: The epiphany that moved me to become passionate and knowledgeable about wine was a red I had in a restaurant in Barcelona 7 years ago. I can’t remember what I ate at all, but can still remember thinking that the wine was like drinking berries turned into liquid velvet. I’ve since worked in to wine industry and my life hasn’t been the same since.
June 24, 2009

DrEdwardo
QOTD: Penfolds Grange, can’t remember the vintage, drunk back in 1993.

Interesting guest and topic *BUT* once again an episode over an hour long, 3 drinks, uneven audio (no problem hearing Gary, once again can barely hear the guest).

Very low QPR episode. The information was interesting but not 70 minutes interesting. Like drinking an 88 point wine that costs you $70.

Edwardo
June 24, 2009

Brett Steigerwaldt
My epiphany moment was when I tasted lapsang souchong tea (black tea from China that is smoked over burning pinewood). The smell reminded me of camping, like you just put out a campfire and were about to head out on the trail, turned around to take it all in and wham, the essence of a campfire hits you. After that I jumped into tea, and began reading tea books, and creating food/cheese pairings to go with each tea. Graduate school has slowed down progress, but I still brew a pot of tea at breakfast.

Its also interesting to note how tea changes depending on steeping periods, temperature, amount of tea used, etc.

Its truly amazing to think that factors such as terroir, steeping, amount of loose leaves used in infusion, water temperature, type of water (hard, soft, distilled, etc) can influence every cup of tea.

I look forward to this country getting more into tea.

As a side note, its funny to think that teas like Gyokoru, a tea with incredible amounts of chlorophyll in each leaf, can smell like hotdogs before steeping, and then after steeping, taste VERY vegetal and grassy and smell like a hotdog that is wrapped in fresh cut grass.

Good luck on your tea adventures Gary!
June 24, 2009

manonthemoon
Interesting show.

QOTD: No epiphany, just really enjoy alcohol in multiple forms though.
June 24, 2009

NY Pete
where’s Kahuna?
June 24, 2009

jason carey
Good and interesting show.. more balanced interaction
June 24, 2009

Adam G.
Absolutely awesome episode! I have to say, I was a little turned off by the last couple shows, but this one brought me right back with a fervor!

I am inspired now – I need to try REAL Sake. In fact, I may order something from his website, because I highly doubt I can get it in my neck of the woods.

QOTD: My aha moment came in the town of Barolo – they were describing the direct impact of different soils in the area on the wines – some produce more floral wines, some produce stronger wines – that detail ignited a real passion.
June 24, 2009

john
QOTD: No epiphany, but the appreciation that quality wine, beer, coffee, tea, root beer, good food, art, literature, music, beautiful women, architecture, etc. lets us celebrate all the positive aspects of mankind, and in our appreciation, we are all united. Peace!
June 24, 2009

Pete
Every time I drink Sake I get a mind numbing headache. Am I drinking bad sake? I know very little about it but it isn’t cheap sake so I would hope it is decent. Anyone else have this issue?
June 24, 2009

Al
Fun fact: the savory/chicken broth taste you detected on the second sample of sake is umami one of the 5 basic tastes humans can detect (salt, sweet, bitter, sour & umami). It was discovered by a Japanese scientist named Kikunae Ikeda in 1908. Great show.
June 24, 2009

Tofferotti
One of the most fun episodes ever. Sake is something I have always been fascinated by but never really made the move to taste much or learn about it. Guess I’ll have to change that.

QOTD: I’ll go with wine. I was working at a restaurant and sold a 1967 Badia a Coltibuono Chianti. The guys I sold it to poured me a good sized glass of it. Shocked me to the core. Pretty much gave up beer after that. I still like beer, but wine has taken over my life ever since.
June 24, 2009

Zino
QOTD: An Australian Shiraz really got me into wine. But come on Beau, wine can be a fabulous thing but it doesn’t cause an epiphany, get a grip on reality.
June 24, 2009

Big D
QOTD: I spent 2 months in Germany in 1973/74 and was introduced to riesling wine. The difference between the cr*p I had experienced and the wine I experienced there was unbelievable.

I enjoyed the show very much. Beau is VERY knowledgeable about sake and his passion shows through.
June 24, 2009

Matt "Ikigai"
The information was so good in this two part series that I plan on linking to it for my martial arts readers. I really hope there will be a sakesocial video series!
June 24, 2009

gubby
The “epiphany” moment for me was when I had a Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale when I was 19. From that moment, I started my quest for beer.
June 24, 2009

Vinograf
Absolutely positively stunning show. Loved every minute of it. Gonna learn, gonna study, gonna drink it and explore it as much as I can!
June 24, 2009

Peter T
Man this dude could be Jim Carrey’s double!
June 24, 2009

Thomas D.
I have to say, this was a truely exciting episode. With all this foray into various beverages, I might actually have one to recommend. Recently, I’ve been quite interested in Mead, although it does seem quite difficult to come across. It is certainly quite different from anything. If I had to compare it to anything, I’d say it drinks a bit like a cider.

QOTD: I can’t say I really have had much of an “epiphany” moment, but there is a brewery up here in Canada called Unibroue which makes Belgian style beer, and has gotten me obsessed with them. Now, if only I could find a place which sells them…
June 24, 2009

Keith
This was a great episode one of my favorites. I’m a huge fan of sake and I now realize that I have a lot of learning to do.

QOTD: One of the first sakes I tasted was a plum flavor, it was unlike any other alcoholic drink that I’ve ever had.
June 24, 2009

AndrewLyle
I can’t say that I’ve had that “moment” yet. I am a mere 20 years old, and because of the archaic drinking law in the U.S., I often feel limited in my ability to taste anything out of the ordinary.

Contrary to the above statement, I will say that I had a glass of Moscato D’Asti at a restaurant in NYC that blew my face off. The green apple, the color, viscosity! I had only had a couple desert wines in my life, but this was an eye-opening experience.

Great Episode GV & BT, I would gleefully watch sakelibrarytv
June 24, 2009

Chalz
Another first for WLTV…The guest was petted..as we pet our animals. Made old Beau go bright red! Priceless.

GV, seriously, you gotta start taking your ADHD meds.

QOTD: 2000 Petrus was an ephiphany for me to drink more red
June 24, 2009

debra
I so totally enjoyed this 2 part episode, and your awesome guest from S.F. I never had sake after trying it once in the awful heated bottle/cup duo, so now that I learned a little, I will definitely give it another try. The last bottle you tasted seems like a good place for me to start, since I enjoyed that description the most.

My epiphany was about pizza—I avoided tasting it for years as a child, but once I started, I was hooked. I have tasted pizza all over the world, and my favorite is Margherita pizza from Fiorello’s Ristorante in NYC, and from a restaurant Il Pompeio, on Capri, in Italy. I’m passionate about it!