EP 931 Revisiting the 2007 Domaine Leflaive Batard Montrachet

Gary Vaynerchuk tastes the 2007 Domaine Leflaive Batard Montrachet a week after it was opened for episodes 927 and 928 with Josh Greene of Wine & Spirits.

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2007 Domain Leflaive Batard-Montrachet


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luca bercelli

89/100

Good experiment – I’d love to try a wine like that

Tags: burgundy, France, review, Video, white, wine, wines

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  • great dear hows taste about this wine..

  • Anonymous

    Had a fruit fly in France in 1990 that I rated 94+ points.

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: BEST: Inspired by GV, I recently let a small-house Champagne sit in the fridge for 24 hours and was AMAZED at the complexity that unfolded on the palate on the second day, as well as how vibrant AND carbonated the wine remained.
    WORST: Without naming wines or restaurants here, let me just say that I had a glass of wine at a restaurant last week that CLEARLY did not preserve their by-the-glass offerings, and during a slow week, it was obvious that the wine that I ordered had been opened for way too long when it was poured. Here’s a word of advice for anyone running the wine program at any restaurant, from one wine director to another: PLEASE purchase some form of gas-based wine preserver for your establishment!! For as little as $3 per container, you can purchase a case of inert gas blend wine preserver that will increase the longevity of your by-the-glass items up to a week without much noticeable decline in quality. PLEASE DO THIS INSTEAD OF SERVING NEAR-VINEGAR GLASSES OF FERMENTED GRAPE JUICE!

  • Sverre

    QOTD.
    A few times I have left half a bottle of one my favorite wines, a mature ten year old SuperTuscan Blend, for next day using a vaccum pump. On all occation it has lost a whole lot of nose and taste.
    I have left some nice mature both whites and reds in the glass for an hour and noticed a great increase in both nose and taste.

  • Anonymous

    I mean, shouldn’t you at least keep the wine in the fridge after opening if you’re going to hold it for a week before drinking again? No wonder the wine had lost in the process and not gained…

    QOTD: Porcupine Ridge Syrah Viognier 2007. Not a fan of cheap South African reds but this was praised highly somewhere so I bought a bottle. Tasted terrible, full of overripe fruit and no tannins, acidity or balance whatsoever. Poured the whole thing back into the bottle and put it in the fridge. 24h later, it was a completely different wine. A very nice barnyard thing going on, tasted of dirt and earth and the dominating fruit was almost completely gone. Still six months later amazed by the experience…

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: Domaine de Ravanรจs in Languedoc is one of my favorite producers (think I’ve probably mentioned that before). I’ve bought their wines for years and had the chance to visit Marc, the winemaker, this past spring (like meeting a celebrity for me). In his tasting room, he had wines – especially reds – that had been open for at least a week and were drinking remarkably well. Still fresh and rich with not even a hint of oxidation. And there are even a couple of his higher profile reds that I will decant for 12-24 hours before serving at home. Great show GV!

  • The best wine I am drinking is the wine what I have bought from my neighbor 2 years ago. And it is made from Sapiravi grape. If I drink it at cool temperatures it?s thin like water, if I drink it at room temperature it?s like an other wine: comes fresh with plums, smoke, vegetables, and frozen rocks and a fool body ? and it has been fermented for about 6 months, no SO2, no filtration, has not even been racked ? it is pure juice. And nothing beats that.
    The worst experience was a Shiraz of 13.5 % alcohol that tasted like cauff syrup ? it was a cheap one tough.

  • Anonymous

    I have not gone above fifth growth myself but I do drink top quality wines and none of them need more than fifteen minutes to open up.
    Gary talks like you can take any tanic wine and “open it up by letting it breathe”. I have tried this many times and it just never works. This high dollar Burgundy is a prime example of what I’m talking about. Aromaticaly challenged is probably a gross understatement.
    I just don’t think people are being honest with themselves. Maybe I will try a few more wines and see if I can see something good happen.

    Sent from my current frame of reference in space time.

  • Anonymous

    Suggest a wine for me to try and let me know what I should expect.

    Sent from my current frame of reference in space time.

  • I was going to say something else between the rims and the breakfast the next morning but I kept it too myself. I’m not NY Pete. I can’t use such saucy language. ๐Ÿ˜› ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜›

  • If Madame Leflaive begins hosting seminars in English at her biodynamic school, I encourage anyone to attend. She is so passionate and fascinating.
    Can’t wait to try the Chevalier-Montrachet tonight at the Top 100 event.
    Lisa
    The Journey of Jordan: a wine and food video blog

  • Allan

    I am having a financial hang-over from this episode… ๐Ÿ˜›

  • Oakmon’s BF

    I like tannic reds, but my wife doesn’t like them very much. Back in my ckc days, several decades ago, drinking one or more whole bottles could happen quite easily and fairly frequently. Those days are long gone. So I’d open a bottle and pour myself a glass and stick the cork back in. I’d let it breath is the glass for an hour or so. The second day I’d pour a second glass. The second day was nearly always the best. The problem was that the 3rd and 4th day weren’t always so good. So now I always vacuum out the air. Unfortunately I no longer have that “second day is the best” experience.

  • scottEJ

    Nice, G. At that price point, I’d hope it’d stand up for at least a week.

    QOTD: I don’t have too much experience in holding on to wine. When I do, I usually suck the air out and have them shortly thereafter. However, I generally do like the bigger wines over the softer wines when I do.

  • Wineguider

    Your format is awesome! And, nice editing! I hope to be able to afford wines like this someday. I am sure they are just a few thousand wine blog entries away…
    My best long-opened bottle experiences: all whites. Some very drinkable after multiple weeks of refrigeration. Example would be the Jacob’s Creek chardonnay I just reviewed.
    Thanks again for your enthusiasm, it’s contagious.
    -Wineguider, http://wineguider.wordpress

  • Chris

    i had an israeli cab recently because ive never tried an israeli wine before. and it was horrendous. maybe thats too far. but it tasted like watered down cranberry juice with sweet and low added. threw it in my fridge and saw it a week later. tried it. and it was a completely different wine. it seemed to have filled out. it felt heavier. there were several new flavors i didnt pick up on before. tight finish. actually pretty tasty the second go around. i was really confused.

  • TitanicTrojan

    At home I usually drink a bottle over 3-5 days and always use an air pump on the bottle and store at room temperature. Very rarely have I had a wine “go bad” in this process but some wines do change for better or worse over this period. Recently, I drank a 1999 Chateau Leoville Las Cases over three days and found it was even better on day three than on day one.

  • Abiluy

    as an israely i can understand what r u talking about.
    had the same case a few times.
    the israeli wine in general still growing and evolving so most of the wines haven’t reached the place that the people who make the wine were aiming
    all i’m saying is that israeli wine today is mostly average and to expensive for it’s quality.(there are some ecxeptions not all is bad)

  • Allan

    JAAAAAARRRRGGHH, where’s me new episode??

  • Allan

    Excellent!

  • Andre_hm

    QOTD: The best wine we had open, remained open for a couple years. A 100+ year Port that my grandfather got from his grandfather. Think on their 50th wedding anniversary he decided to open the bottle for the family. I was like 16 and it was one of the best things I ever drank. We drank a bit at any special occasion (Xmas, Easter,…) until it was gone. My grandfather passed away 3 years later and I’m so glad he open the bottle and enjoyed it the with the family. Perfect example that wines exist to be enjoyed, not collected, no matter how valuable the bottles are.

  • Ralphcotto

    Absolutely loved this entire series with Josh. Loved the details and all the great sidebar comments and information. I felt like I was tasting the wines along side you. As for drinking a wine after it has been open for some time, I would have to say my best experience was with a 2003 Penny’s Hill Red Dot McLauren Vale Shiraz that couldn’t be touched until it was left open for at least 3 days. Then, OMG it was like sex for the first time. I couldn’t stop till both the bottle and I were spent.

  • Andre_hm

    Dave, I have to agree with the guys back there. Even if you buy top quality wine…in what condition has it been stored? I find that quality wine, wherever it comes from, can use some decanting and breathing. But hey, if you prefer the wine straight after opening, that’s your taste and you should enjoy YOUR wine whatever it tastes better to YOU. Forget what we’re saying!

  • Allan

    Tryin’ a Bishop tonite…. Cheers! ๐Ÿ˜›

  • Anonymous

    Point very well taken. I am waiting to find myself wrong because just about everyone I talk to disagrees. At the same time I can’t lie to myself and if I seem hostile to the other point of view it is merely my frustration at getting the exact opposite experience from everyone else. Well, most everyone.
    I will keep experimenting

    Sent from my current frame of reference in space time.

  • Anonymous

    Also Garys’s experiment seems to prove me right. The wine did not sound better at all. I know it’s totally not the same as a proper decant but still.

    Sent from my current frame of reference in space time.

  • Allan

    If you had stored it in a fridge, it would have been better G. That’s my opinion. But i don’t like praising a 400 bones+ wine.

  • Allan

    The Bishop is a very focused wine, good depth, black, black, black, liquorice shoe polish. 91+

  • Allan

    Sorry, Ben Gleatzer 2006 Bishop.

  • Allan

    Mott, link up the new thunder….

  • QOTD: Worst wine experience after drinking open bottle. Had a chocolate cherry port, several days later went to drink, tasted like vinegar. Very disappointing.

  • thejockey

    New fan to the site! now converted fan! completely understand that some wine’s need to breath and can get better as they are exposed to oxygen. But how long is too long? what about all these wine preservation methods out there? GV what are you thoughts on wine preservation, have you done a show on this topic that I have missed?

  • Anonymous

    This show has been left open a little too long.

  • Anonymous

    Gary, there is probably a special place in wine hell for people who leave a Batard Montrachet on a shelf for a week. If I were you, I’d have brought that bottle home along with a basket of fresh mussels and made Lizzie a nice dinner of mussels steamed in white wine and herbs to go with that bottle. You could use a “cheap” $60 chard to steam them.

    Life is good, no?

  • Anonymous

    I’m a fan of big, fruity Paso Zins and Syrah. However, my experience is these don’t typically do well on the second day and get worse from there. Many just seem to fall apart overnight.

  • Anonymous

    Of course you know I’m kidding (except about life being good). Interesting show.

  • QOTD – I very recently had a grenache blanc/rousanne blend from Sans Liege that was 17.1% alcohol, no joke. When I initially tasted it I was incredibly surprised that there was little or no heat at all. The next day when I tasted it again I thought I was drinking Absolut Citron vodka!

  • Anonymous

    QOTD 1: After watching this episode, I realized that I had a bottle of Cono Sur Cabernet/Carmenere blend that had been open for exactly one week with a glass left in the bottle. It may not be the most astounding “open bottle” experience I’ve had, but it has definitely held up. It actually has a little more body and mouth-feel than I remember. There is also a tiny hint/nudge of “this bottle has been open” taste on the back end, but just barely. It definitely doesn’t have that “cherry twizzlers” taste that I so often associate with open bottles.

    QOTD 2: My most disappointing bottle was when my dad and I opened an ’82 Chรขteau Gruaud Larose and it was corked. I was hoping that it would open up and turn into something so I left it on my counter for a week, tasting it occasionally. It wasn’t good in the first place, but I was hoping that it would deliver something. I have had a few funky wines over the years end up opening up after a period of time (although very rare).

  • Anonymous

    Had a 2004 Allegrini La Grola that I opened and had a glass of every day for 8 days. Left the cork off and it was sitting in a cabinet in my kitchen. It peaked on the fifth day. Very cool experiment.

    La Grola is amazing!

  • Anonymous

    qotd: Had a Oak Monster Malbec was so bad it was like “Oaky/Salty” I couldnt even drink two sips, Made me angry, so what I did just to see if it would be better the next day. Opened it up the next day and Beautiful! oak tamed was balanced not to shabby.

    OH think I drank a wine that was open for 3weeks once at the restaurant I worked at and I think it made me sick

  • The Great Fongoody

    Beyond the first 5 minutes – there are people who actually care about this? Yeesh.

  • Anonymous

    Very cool episode. But besides that, I would never leave such a bottle not finished, I’d rather open a second one, the same day. That’s liquid gold.
    But, I loved the experience.

    QOTD. Most of the wines I leave for a few days are not that good – that’s why I leave them – and don’t become better after some days.
    I can’t resist of drinking it when it’s a good wine.

  • Allan

    Thunder done gone missin’ ?

    ๐Ÿ˜›

  • Cja215

    New to your show, Gary, and loved it. You crack me up!

    Going to post your site to my blog, http://www.vinogals.com. We are amateurs trying to talk about wine in “real people terms”….and we love to look like we know people who know what they are talking about ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Anonymous

    Spanish reds (esp. Grand Reserva wines) are very tough. I suppose this is due to the long barrel aging.

  • They didn’t pour the Leflaive Chevalier-Montrachet last night, but they did pour the Puligny Clavoillon and Meursault Sous le Do d’Ane. Both were remarkable wines.
    You should come out to San Francisco for this event next year. It’s the best tasting in the country — so hard to spit with such stunning wines on each table.
    Lisa
    The Journey of Jordan: a wine and food video blog

  • et

    The nuttiness is a result of acetaldehyde increasing to above threshold levels; the loss of fruit characters is due to the oxidation of esters and terpenic compounds. Perhaps a more considered “experiment” might have involved more frequent wine assessments so as to establish a turning point in the wine’s improvement and decline.

    QOTD; homemade cab sav, that was closed down with volitiles dominating on openning, exploded with fruit, chocolate and liquorice the next day. It is such a buzz when you’re wine does a Lazarus.

  • My thoughts exactly….what the heck were you doing spitting a $400+ bottle of wine???

    QOTD1: Many white wines just loose their freshness after the 2nd day of being opened with the exception of a wine like German Riesling or many sweet wines. You can go a day or 2 later and still be impressed.

    QOTD2: I recently opend a bottle of Petite Sirah and decided not to decant since I was the only one drinking. The 2nd day the wine opened up beautifully.

  • Sparty-on

    Question for the Vaynernation – I am looking at purchasing a eurocave wine cellar. I am curious how important having one with a humidifer is. I don’t cellar a lot of fine for longer that a few years, not enough patience! Anybody have any idea how important having the humidifer on the unit is?

  • Anonymous

    Interesting. Nice editing, Mott!
    QOTD: Drawing a blank at the moment, just glad to be back watching WLTV!

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