Decanting wine, what does it do? -Episode #18

March 22, 2006

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2004 Amon Ra Shiraz

Watch as Gary Vaynerchuk demonstrates the value of decanting wines. Also we explore the wonderful wines of the Barrosa Valley (Australia’s “Napa valley”) with Amon Ra. Crafted by Ben Glatzer, Amon Ra stands among the greatest wines in the world.

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  1. October 13, 2009

    Bob

    I have read that very old wines should not be decanted. Why is that???

  2. October 12, 2009

    Allen

    Dear Gary,

    Decant every single wine one buys? Really? I’m sorry but that is an uninformed and absurd blanket statement to make. Decanting the 04 Amon Ra is necessary because of the youth and size of the wine as you state in the beginning of this video. Thankfully there are still many wines out there not made in the prevailing style of ultra-ripe grapes, high alcohol, low acid simplicity that wine lovers may enjoy slowly over a lingering meal while enjoying the gradual evolution of what’s in the bottle without decanting.

  3. June 13, 2009

    Kell Brigan

    Idea: the Ronco Porto-decanter. For going to restaurants, or picnics, or parties. Would allow one to open the wine beforehand, but have a leakproof top one could put on at the last minute for travelling. This may be a place for high-quality plastic or maybe stainless (mother and child reunion, for those naked wines), for safety’s sake. (Wonder how the restaurants would handle corking fees in this situation. Maybe you could let the wine steward take the top off?

  4. May 20, 2009

    Fern

    It really does a difference with young South American. This last ones being so heavy in tannins due to its grapes that are exposed to the altitude, breezes of the Andes and specially the scorching desert heat. Decanting in the bottle is my favorite for a couple of hours and really you can taste the fruityness in the wine.

  5. April 20, 2009

    stephaniexxo

    great video, im doing a wine project for my tourism class.. and this helped:) thankyou

  6. April 6, 2009

    Lanai Tabura

    How do i get my wine on your show?

  7. December 24, 2008

    David Spinelli

    Thanks for the information; however, I was told by a VERY knowledgeable wine collector that ONLY BAROLO wine gets decantered nothing else and that some older become ruined by decantering !

    So please do MORE homework ! Thanks

  8. November 27, 2008

    Tate

    im nuts with big nuts, i love saying that XD,

  9. November 4, 2008

    Rosanna

    A good site, good short contents of the good work. Congratulations !,

  10. October 1, 2008

    lou

    can you tell me more about oxigenizers?

  11. August 30, 2008

    DAMIANO

    WHAT IS PERPETUAL WINE?

  12. August 23, 2008

    Totally Frank

    Great video! I’m glad I stumbled upon this site. Thank you!

    Originally posted by ATF
    “First of all, isn’t it Barossa and not Barrosa Valley? It amazes me how many people love to talk about wine showing off what they know…and what they DON’T know. There are too many uneducated consumers out there as it is….we don’t need any more “fuel to the fire” as it were.”

    Dear ATF: The Barossa is a region and it includes the Barossa Valley. Amon Ra indeed comes from the Barossa Valley, which is within the Barossa region. The original spelling was “Barrosa” but it was modified over the years. From your comment above and my uncovering of your own ignorance, you must continually amaze yourself with your own lack of education.

    Finally, it is also clear that you are no educator. Gary is a good communicator, enthusiastic, has more knowledge that most of us here and is not negative like you. You can’t match that, so don’t go around polluting everyone else.

    Leave Gary alone! He has made huge contributions to our overall knowledge of wines. On the other hand, your “huge contributions” amount to flying a red flag that says “Warning: I have unresolved issues totally unrelated to wine.”

  13. July 16, 2008

    Rodrigo Ce.

    Hola,en mi primera visita al foro me senti tentado de opinar sobre este tema tan amplio: Decantacion” si o no ??.Vale afirmar que la misma se utiliza para evitar los sedimentos naturales del vino,la accion de oxigenar es llamada Trasvacion y es la mas usual hoy en dia siendo muy empleada por sommeliers y consumidores en busca de la mejor expresion del vino…aqui se puede dejar el vino en el decantador por un lapzo 20 min. o mas tiempo segun el perfil del mismo.Aconsejo seguir la evolucion,simultaneamente, en la copa…de esta manera ir entendiendo por que algunos vinos necesitan mas tiempo para evolucionar.Generalmente se trasvasan vinos bien estructurados de poco tiempo en botella,logrando de esta manera desplegar sus cualidades aromaticas y suavizar sus taninos vivos.
    En el caso de la Decantacion , esta es una operacion que requiere de mayores cuidados,sirviendo en el decanter aquellos vinos con un tiempo considerable de estiba en botella, la idea consiste en solo evitar vertir los sedimentos y despertar el bouquet logrado en años de guarda.Recomiendo servir inmediatamente, recordemos q despues de años el vino se vuelve cada vez mas sutil ( solo aquellos concebidos con raza ) y no es cuestion de perder todo lo que llevo años conseguir dentro del decantador.Salut y recomiendo prueben el Malbec Argentino.

  14. July 8, 2008

    Dan Leavy

    great episode, i dont use my decanter all that much because when i open the wine i just want to drink it right then… i need to think ahead more.

    word 18: “can”

  15. June 1, 2008

    chadlp

    Started watching this on hulu.com and I am hooked. I have ordered a decantor, but I was wondering if there was an episode that had more information about decanting? Perhaps a demo?

  16. May 3, 2008

    Weinwelt

    Thank you for that episode! I bought myself a decanter right away.

  17. April 25, 2008

    ATF

    Oh and by the way, I thought the overall episode was fair enough. What he missed in discussion of phenolics and aromatics he made up for in enthusiasm. But dude, you gotta work on that bottle-opening technique; so poor it’s almost laughable!

  18. April 25, 2008

    ATF

    First of all, isn’t it Barossa and not Barrosa Valley? It amazes me how many people love to talk about wine showing off what they know…and what they DON’T know. There are too many uneducated consumers out there as it is….we don’t need any more “fuel to the fire” as it were.
    Second of all, reiterating my point above (especially to BrianS), those that should be listened to the most should be the most qualified, referring to the comment made about Mr. Ray, the MS candidate. To those that don’t even know what that means…once again just proving my point. The uneducated call us jerks? study the material, make it your own personal passion, then pay up or shut up. Spend a little time in the “Court” and the “Society” and you will know what I mean.

    ATF
    CWS
    CS (by fall ‘08)
    Wine sales rep/future negociant

  19. March 26, 2008

    lawschooldrunk

    so, you don’t need to decant an old wine?

    is this still your favorite episode?

    how long should you decant for? 1 hour? 3? 6? does it depend on the wine?

    do you pour it back in the bottle after or leave it in the decanter? if you pour it back, how do you do it without creating bubbles in the bottle?

  20. February 14, 2008

    Dale Cruse

    This is the episode when Gary starts to relax, go on a rant, and really play to the camera. For that alone, this is a significant moment in the evolution of the show.

  21. February 3, 2008

    The Fanjestic

    Good episode, and I’ve got to get a smaller decanter that’s easy to clean – the one I have now is a pain in the butt!

  22. January 24, 2008

    MtnCharlie

    Great episode. Thanks for pointing me to it in episode 392! I will do a decant comparison with some friends (fellow wine geeks).

  23. January 23, 2008

    Malcolm McGrath

    Noooo – stop telling people about the Amon-Ra :( , you do know how hard that is to get down here on release or nothing!

    I’ve started decanting most of my wines now, however I’ve not been leaving some of the bigger ones long enough! The other night I popped an 04 Wolf Blass grey label Cab Sauv – popped and poured into the decanter when i got home from work – had some w/ dinner at 9 and was not very impressed with it as compared to its potential. Left it a while and came back around 3 hours later (midnight) and phwoar it was brilliant.

    I have been trapped before – some lighter wines don’t shine when decanted – you need to drink ‘em fresher. (up to an hour decanted – beyond that and they’re falling apart) don’t know what they were other than some random french ones that I added to the collection at some point.

  24. January 23, 2008

    Thoughts About Wine And Evaluating It - Episode #392

    [...] Decanting wine, what does it do? Episode #18 [...]

  25. January 7, 2008

    JayH

    Please consider opening a bottle of wine with us on Feb 23, 2008. Below is edited text I received from the WSJ.

    From: @wsj.com] On Behalf Of WSJ.com Wine
    Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:06 PM
    To: Jay
    Subject: RE: Planning OTBN in Phila

    Dear J,
    That’s great! Here is our advancer column from last year and the followup column from the very first year, which will give you a good overall sense of what this is about.
    Best,

    Dottie and John

    Tastings:

    WEEKEND JOURNAL

    Tastings: Sprucing Up for Wine’s Night — Many Ways to Fete Open That Bottle; Italy Tour, at Home

    By Dorothy J. Gaiter and John Brecher

    1603 words

    26 January 2007

    The Wall Street Journal

    W4

    English

    (Copyright (c) 2007, Dow Jones & Company, Inc.)

    NEXT MONTH, Loni and Jose Represas will fly from Mexico City to Atlanta with a mission: to help John T. Whaley open a bottle of wine.

    It’s not just any bottle. It’s a 1990 Veuve Clicquot La Grande Dame Champagne that Mr. Whaley’s son, Wyatt, gave him in 1999 when Mr. Whaley was made a captain for United Airlines. Mr. Whaley knows it should be opened. He just can’t stand to do it. So on Saturday, Feb. 24, Mr. and Mrs. Represas and Mr. Whaley and his wife, Nancy, and Wyatt and his wife, Dawn, will grit their teeth and, together, finally pop the cork. It will be Open That Bottle Night 8, when many of us, all over the world, finally open that bottle of wine we’ve been saving forever for a special occasion that never comes.

    For OTBN 5, Mr. Whaley, who is now a CPA, opened “the first bottle that got me interested in wine: a 1971 Mirassou Cabernet Sauvignon. To my surprise, it was still drinkable after surviving a divorce move and two moves precipitated by two airline bankruptcies.” In each of the past two years, he opened a bottle of 1976 Chateau St. Jean Cabernet Sauvignon that he’d purchased at the winery many years ago. “The wine was in great condition and received rave reviews from our guests,” recalled Mr. Whaley, who also may open two other cherished bottles next month, long-held gifts from appreciative friends: a 1974 Stag’s Leap Wine Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon and a 1983 Dom Perignon.

    This is why we invented OTBN, which is celebrated on the last Saturday of February every year. Whether it’s the only bottle in the house or one bottle among thousands, just about all of us have that very special wine that we always mean to open, but never do. On OTBN every year, thousands of bottles all over the world are released from prison and enjoyed. With them come memories of great vacations, long-lost loved ones and bittersweet moments. The whole point of our wine column is that wine is more than the liquid in the bottle. It’s about history, geography, relationships and all of the things that are really important in life.

    In Forest Hills, N.Y., Barrie Stern plans to open a 1948 Rioja she found when she was cleaning out her mother’s house. “It was probably a gift from my uncle for a special occasion and never opened,” says Ms. Stern. “Too bad they didn’t have Open That Bottle Night then.” In Lexington, S.C., Mandy Ackerman, celebrating her second OTBN, is deciding whether to open a Sawyer Cabernet or a Freemark Abbey Cabernet with 16 friends. Andrew Rosenthal is planning an event in Philadelphia at a bring-your-own-bottle restaurant with an alumni group from the University of Pennsylvania. The Geneva Golf Club outside of Chicago is celebrating OTBN with a special dinner for 60 to 80. Main course: pork loin with apple-cranberry chutney.

    Restaurants are getting into the spirit as well. Some restaurants drop corkage fees for OTBN. Occidental Restaurant in Washington, D.C., is having its OTBN on Feb. 23, the night before the world-wide celebration, as part of its own centennial festivities. It’s planning several different menus (for $130, including tax and tip) to pair with the wines people will bring. The restaurant’s wine guru, Daniel Hennessey, will ask diners what they plan to bring so they can be assigned to tables with appropriate menus. Some distributors have agreed to kick in Champagne and dessert wines. Mr. Hennessey said the $30 corkage fee will go to a charity that helps homeless people.

    While OTBN has become a time for parties, large and small, don’t forget that it also is about romance and intimacy. In our case, for instance, we’re going to stay home — and travel to Italy together. Many years ago, long before we wrote about wine, we visited the Piedmont region and, through a series of happy accidents, were virtually adopted for a week by the Cerettos, one of Italy’s legendary winemaking families. When we were leaving, with tears all around, they handed us a signed bottle of grappa, the distilled firewater. We don’t often drink serious alcohol and we had never even tasted grappa, but the next year, on a very cold day, we opened it and we each took a sip. One sip was enough for the whole winter.

    “It was a tough landing. All of the tires of the airplane blew out. The pilot did a really fantastic job,” he recalled, adding that he had to drink “a couple Scotches before I could even call home.” So when the Whaleys, whom he had met on a barge trip through Burgundy, told him about OTBN, “I knew this was something I must do. It is a way to commemorate the importance of not leaving this world without enjoying what you have in this world.”

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