Episode #23 - 2005 Bordeaux Futures vs. 2003 Bordeaux.

March 31, 2006

2003 Chat Haut Beyzac

2003 Chat Clos De Sarpe

2003 Chat Marojallia

Watch as Gary Vaynerchuk talks about the upcoming 2005 vintage from Bordeaux, and debates the value of the 2003 vintage versus the 2005s.

If you are going to be playing the 2005 Bordeaux futures game, this is a must-see episode!

17 Responses

1. about 25 months ago

   kw

   i took a bottle of the chat haut beyzac with me to the beach a week ago…thought it would be nice time to try a good bordeaux…haven’t had much experience with bordeaux. well, i ended up popping the bottle with a few friends and after this episode i wonder if perhaps i was missing the mark in terms of how i judged it at the time. I remember the wine being very green…seemed tannic and dry…which to me took away from the flavorfulness i was expecting. of course i think some of the problem was that i did not allow it to breath for very long before i poured some glasses. also, i am thinking this wine is perhaps more on the ‘old world’ side of things (someone please correct me if i am wrong) and i am just not experienced enough yet to appreciate its more subtle nuances. i am glad you did this episode though and i will have to pick up another bottle and pay more attention…for me it was not a good beach wine…and what i mean by that is that it seems to be a wine that deserves more attention than i was able to give it at the time…i did pick on the liquorice and smoothness…but liek i said, at the time is seemed a very sharp taste, hard for me to decipher.
   -kw

2. about 25 months ago

   Tim

   Gary,

   I love the back ground information in this segment.
   It’s nice to understand the history and how the
   present has come out of the past.

   I also really appreciate your broadening of my view of
   the wine world.

   I have to admit that when I first heard of wine TV I
   couldn’t imagine that I would watch it. Now I’m
   tuning in each time you put out a segment and loving
   it.

   Good Job!

   Tim

3. about 25 months ago

   Bonnie

   Hi Gary,

   Great job and these videos are extremely enjoyable to watch. I really appreciate the opportunity to learn more about wine. I have e-mailed the link to all of my wine friends. Thank you for doing it.

   Bonnie

4. about 25 months ago

   GeneV

   Bordeaux super vintages (like 05?) need a long, long time in the cellar. The great ones need at least 20 years. Gary, you may be able to enjoy a 2005 first or second growth at its peak while you are still at your peak, but those of us who have crossed the half century mark need to carefully consider 2005 futures.

5. about 25 months ago

   Mitch

   Gary does a very good job by aptly describing the characteristics, great demeanor and very articulate. However, I don’t agree with the logic of this episode which seems to be “buy these ’03s ’cause their counterparts of ‘05 will be astronomically priced”. With Bordeaux, vintage makes all the difference in the world, more so than anywhere else except Burgundy. Chateau Lafite can produce an etherial wine in one vintage, and a mediocre wine the next. These wines should be judged in absolute terms, not on the basis of what a subsequent vintage of the same wine will cost. ‘03 was a bizarre vintage for much of the World. I have no doubt that there are many fine ‘03 Bordeaux, but I would buy them based on their own potential to return pleasure relative to cost. Many would appeal largely to those with Calif/Aussie palates who ordinarily find Bordeaux a bit thin, acidic, and too structured. Many are bound to be too ripe, alcoholic, and yet surprisingly tannic as many of the ‘03 Southern Rhone have proved to be.

6. about 25 months ago

   garyv

   Mitch thank you for the kind words and I hope I didn’t come off by saying all 2003’s, what I meant was those specific 03’s really showed well and were great buys. I agree the 2005 will be legendary and Bordeaux is a very vintage sensitive area. Thank you for the comments, I hope I didn’t make a blanket statement on 2003, heck anything for that matter!

7. about 25 months ago

   Arnaud

   Gary,
   i believe you only forgot mentionning that Clos de Sarpe was a garage wine as well from St Emilion. With only 4Ha, this property which is still owned by the same people for the past 50 years just return in the eyes of the critics these past 7 years with RMP reviewing since 98.

   I have had bottles of the 1955 vintage of Clos de Sarpe (and still have half a case) and this has been a beautiful wine mature and yet powerful and elegant. While 1955 was an incredible powerful and “vin de garde” wine, this proves -if needed- that these very small properties can generate wines that are able to last over 5 decades!
   Arnaud.

8. about 25 months ago

   Jennifer Carlson

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9. about 19 months ago

   Brandon M

   OK…gotta get some Bordeaux….Wine #6 on the random will be the Beyzac.

10. about 19 months ago

    Mike F.

    I wish I had some spare capitol. I could use the futures market to build up my own cellar from the profits. I’m sure may enophiles do just that. I won’t be purchasing any first growths any other way.

11. about 17 months ago

    Arnold

    Wow, great episode. really informative. unfortunately I can’t afford the futures market.

12. about 14 months ago

    Valentin

    Hi Gary

    Strange, but when I compared your “old” videos with the new ones I have noticed that you gained some extra kilos. I also struggle with my waist line although I am within reasonable limits (like you). Wouldn’t it be interesting to make a show with that focus? Which are the best wine pairings with a low calorie diet? Which wine with steamed broccoli, carrots, celleries, fish, lobster, oysters, bull’s balls…… you get the idea. Best wishes from old the old continent.

13. about 11 months ago

    David Canada

    Amen….I bough huge in this vintage. Not able to afford first groths but did get cases of Pontet Canet, Barton, Bages and some smaller producers in that 15-20 range. You are so right!

14. about 11 months ago

    vibemore

    If I only I had the extra $ to buy up the 05s. Oh well.

15. about 8 months ago

    WA Ambassador

    Ah, Bordeaux. This is something that I need to get back into again. It’s one that I have been missing for a long time. I have been distracted by so many other wines.

16. about 3 months ago

    The Fanjestic

    Very Interesting to see an 03 tasting - and to see Gary’s predictions coming true now is also very interesting.

17. about 2 months ago

    jbrian

    If only we listened.

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