EP 194 Betts and Scholl wines and the Great Richard Betts

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    corkscrew

    Global warming..shut up. Have not tried any of his wines…pricey Interesting guy. http://www.winelx.com

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    • Brian Johnson

      Had never heard of Betts & Scholl before until two weeks ago we had dinner at a French Restuarant and ordered a bottle of the Grenache. Not sure on the year, but I recognized the label. Saw a Black Betty at the wine store in town lat weekend, but opted for a $56 bottle of Barossa Valley Descendant Torbreck 2000 which was origninally marked at $89 on the price tag. Can’t pass up that deal can I? May head back there and pick up the Black Betty since you and Richard both loved it. Mainly because I can rarely find wines in Hawaii that you try on the show so when I see one, I like to get the bottle, watch the episode again and taste at the same time.
      QOTD: Best Deal – Finding out about WLTV and having it be free

    • Brian Johnson

      Had never heard of Betts & Scholl before until two weeks ago we had dinner at a French Restuarant and ordered a bottle of the Grenache. Not sure on the year, but I recognized the label. Saw a Black Betty at the wine store in town lat weekend, but opted for a $56 bottle of Barossa Valley Descendant Torbreck 2000 which was origninally marked at $89 on the price tag. Can’t pass up that deal can I? May head back there and pick up the Black Betty since you and Richard both loved it. Mainly because I can rarely find wines in Hawaii that you try on the show so when I see one, I like to get the bottle, watch the episode again and taste at the same time.
      QOTD: Best Deal – Finding out about WLTV and having it be free

    • Harry

      What a find. Richard really introduced me to the world of “great” wines, and the idea of following and trusting the heart, and Gary, who has been my encouragement and support years later when I decided to follow through and dive into the wine world with all my passion. Great show, and I have to say Betts & School are wines dear to my heart. I gave my Dad their Chronique Grenache for his birthday, and as a lover of Penfolds and big bombastic Aussie shiraz, he was very very pleased, as was I despite my more old-world tuned palate. Thanks to you both!

    • Harry

      What a find. Richard really introduced me to the world of “great” wines, and the idea of following and trusting the heart, and Gary, who has been my encouragement and support years later when I decided to follow through and dive into the wine world with all my passion. Great show, and I have to say Betts & School are wines dear to my heart. I gave my Dad their Chronique Grenache for his birthday, and as a lover of Penfolds and big bombastic Aussie shiraz, he was very very pleased, as was I despite my more old-world tuned palate. Thanks to you both!

    • A dumb Rhine king

      Fun show. Too bad you didn’t win the v-log nerdoff :)

      QOTD: I just got an excellent deal the other day when I got basically 3 bottles of wine free because of a great sale.

    • A dumb Rhine king

      Fun show. Too bad you didn’t win the v-log nerdoff :)

      QOTD: I just got an excellent deal the other day when I got basically 3 bottles of wine free because of a great sale.

    • JoeWhitt

      Why didn’t Bett get to ask the QOTD? That is why he didn’t remember it in ep. 641!! Best deal has to be my truck, like new, dealer had to move it and offered it to me for less than my offer!! Oh, I also had a few connections with the sales guy’s boss..shhh

    • JoeWhitt

      Why didn’t Bett get to ask the QOTD? That is why he didn’t remember it in ep. 641!! Best deal has to be my truck, like new, dealer had to move it and offered it to me for less than my offer!! Oh, I also had a few connections with the sales guy’s boss..shhh

    • JMG

      Chacun Son Métier….
      I went to my car today and there was a package left for me. I opened it up and there were several notes detailing the creepy things I have done over the years. Creepy, creepy and creepy. Frankly, they were all true.

      One of the major creepy things I am guilty of is begrudging Betts & Scholl their recent four million dollar windfall.

      I don’t know the guys and have nothing against them. People make lots of money for doing truly repulsive things that belittle, hurt or kill innocent people and certainly these guys can’t be accused of any such thing.

      What I object to is their pretending to be “winemakers” in Australia, California and Hermitage. C’mon….they are two guys with day jobs, one in Aspen and one in Miami. They are not “winemakers” and they are running on hype, pretense and posture. The crazy thing about America is they are being rewarded, rather than condemned, for their efforts.

      We just went through an economic blow-up with people selling derivatives of derivatives of derivatives. All with no real product or value. The economy collapsed.

      Isn’t it time to call a halt to such lunacy? Wine is rooted, an agricultural product, which was here before and which will be here after credit derivatives come and go. Wine comes from the earth, not a marketeer’s cynical playbook. The key to all great wines is the vines, not a business plan.

      Betts & Scholl got the idea to create a label, plop that label on wines, and say they were the “winemakers.” Betts & Scholl then got lots of great reviews (Betts was already a well-known sommelier and had plenty of contacts) for the winemaking they never did. Their wines got critical praise and the next step was to parlay a virtual winery with no facility, no vines, no nothing into the big sale. They didn’t say there were importing wines or selecting wine, Betts & Scholl were winemakers.

      This is not winemaking and it is not a négociant model. In principal a négociant buys grapes, must, juice or makes wines and then blends, bottles and then plops their label.

      I import wine. None of the wines say Mis en Bouteille par Joe Dressner à East 4th Street, Dubai-sur-le-Bowery.”

      For me, what is beautiful in the wine world is the seemingly lost world of growers who work their fields well, bottle their wines and then go out and sell them. Artisan has become a cynical term because everything is now working on an “artisan” basis. Even Aspen and Miami “winemakers.” But there are real artisans out there all over Europe and even here in America we have the beginning of a movement. Artisans who are in tune with nature, not Powerpoint presentations.

      For me, what is cynical about Betts & Scholl is that they always knew they were not “winemakers.” Betts is a well known sommelier and no doubt a talented and charismatic guy. I don’t know anything about Scholl other than he is an art collector, seems to have money and has the same last name as the people who make the foot care products. The Betts who picked wines for Little Nell didn’t pick wines based on gimmicks or hype, but insisted on some honesty in the wines presentation and what was in the bottle. He knew what a “winemaker” is and is not.

      I received a note today from a wine lover I respect thanking me for Ariana Occhipinti’s wine. I thanked the person, but noted that it is Ariana who deserves the thanks not me. I’m the importer, she does the work in the vines and the cellar.

      I firmly believe “chacun son métier.”

      Everyone has their craft, everyone has their place.

    • JMG

      Chacun Son Métier….
      I went to my car today and there was a package left for me. I opened it up and there were several notes detailing the creepy things I have done over the years. Creepy, creepy and creepy. Frankly, they were all true.

      One of the major creepy things I am guilty of is begrudging Betts & Scholl their recent four million dollar windfall.

      I don’t know the guys and have nothing against them. People make lots of money for doing truly repulsive things that belittle, hurt or kill innocent people and certainly these guys can’t be accused of any such thing.

      What I object to is their pretending to be “winemakers” in Australia, California and Hermitage. C’mon….they are two guys with day jobs, one in Aspen and one in Miami. They are not “winemakers” and they are running on hype, pretense and posture. The crazy thing about America is they are being rewarded, rather than condemned, for their efforts.

      We just went through an economic blow-up with people selling derivatives of derivatives of derivatives. All with no real product or value. The economy collapsed.

      Isn’t it time to call a halt to such lunacy? Wine is rooted, an agricultural product, which was here before and which will be here after credit derivatives come and go. Wine comes from the earth, not a marketeer’s cynical playbook. The key to all great wines is the vines, not a business plan.

      Betts & Scholl got the idea to create a label, plop that label on wines, and say they were the “winemakers.” Betts & Scholl then got lots of great reviews (Betts was already a well-known sommelier and had plenty of contacts) for the winemaking they never did. Their wines got critical praise and the next step was to parlay a virtual winery with no facility, no vines, no nothing into the big sale. They didn’t say there were importing wines or selecting wine, Betts & Scholl were winemakers.

      This is not winemaking and it is not a négociant model. In principal a négociant buys grapes, must, juice or makes wines and then blends, bottles and then plops their label.

      I import wine. None of the wines say Mis en Bouteille par Joe Dressner à East 4th Street, Dubai-sur-le-Bowery.”

      For me, what is beautiful in the wine world is the seemingly lost world of growers who work their fields well, bottle their wines and then go out and sell them. Artisan has become a cynical term because everything is now working on an “artisan” basis. Even Aspen and Miami “winemakers.” But there are real artisans out there all over Europe and even here in America we have the beginning of a movement. Artisans who are in tune with nature, not Powerpoint presentations.

      For me, what is cynical about Betts & Scholl is that they always knew they were not “winemakers.” Betts is a well known sommelier and no doubt a talented and charismatic guy. I don’t know anything about Scholl other than he is an art collector, seems to have money and has the same last name as the people who make the foot care products. The Betts who picked wines for Little Nell didn’t pick wines based on gimmicks or hype, but insisted on some honesty in the wines presentation and what was in the bottle. He knew what a “winemaker” is and is not.

      I received a note today from a wine lover I respect thanking me for Ariana Occhipinti’s wine. I thanked the person, but noted that it is Ariana who deserves the thanks not me. I’m the importer, she does the work in the vines and the cellar.

      I firmly believe “chacun son métier.”

      Everyone has their craft, everyone has their place.

    • John__J

      qotd when a wine store does $1 over cost days and I scoop up alot of wine at a fraction of the price.

      Gary, how about giving us a vin jaune episode?

    • John J.

      qotd when a wine store does $1 over cost days and I scoop up alot of wine at a fraction of the price.

      Gary, how about giving us a vin jaune episode?

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    • Tom H

      Richard is so full of crap. I did a google search on their wine and the top of the list is their Wine Spectator scores. Funny, I thought Richard, “was just making the wines for themselves” and didn’t need scores to justify the wines.

    • Tom H

      Richard is so full of crap. I did a google search on their wine and the top of the list is their Wine Spectator scores. Funny, I thought Richard, “was just making the wines for themselves” and didn’t need scores to justify the wines.

    • corkscrew

      Global warming..shut up. Have not tried any of his wines…pricey Interesting guy. http://www.winelx.com

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