Muscadet Wine Sampling – Episode #249

June 5, 2007

Gary samples some Muscadet wines, because some of us don’t have Franklins pouring out of our pockets.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

Chereau Carre Muscadet Chateau De ChasseloirMuscadet
2005 Domaine De La Cognardiere Muscadet Sur LieMuscadet
2006 Pepiere Muscadet Sur LieMuscadet

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186 Responses

June 5, 2007

patrill
Mmm… I wish I had Franklins pouring out of my pockets. Those are some of my favorite types of wine.
QOTD: I’ve never had a Xarel-lo. But I’m going to Spain next Spring so I’ll take care of that.
June 5, 2007

Jeppe
First comment written
June 5, 2007

Randy
Wishing *I* was in Greece…
June 5, 2007

mbannon
Well, if I have a chance to be top 5, I guess I gotta take it…

Top 5!!

Okay, now to go watch the show…Muscadet is an area I really need to learn more about.
June 5, 2007

FredinNYC
QOTD: Since I only drink reds, I don’t think I’ve ever had a Sauvignon blanc. The only whites I have experience with are the sweet dessert ones: Muscadet, Moscato d’Asti, Sauternes. But I consider these desserts rather than wines
June 5, 2007

Halden
Very eye opening. I had never heard of (let alone tried) muscadet.

QOTD: I have never had Barolos or Brunellos
June 5, 2007

Karl Laczko
Starting to look tired Gary, can’t wait for tomorrow!

Never had a Muscadet, it’s on my list though.

Hope you’re having a good time in Greece, I hear it’ll stop raining soon.
June 5, 2007

holgi
Erster! (fast)
June 5, 2007

IanY
Interesting episode – haven’t tried Muscadet in years, will have to look some up!
June 5, 2007

Christoph
hey, top ten. hÃ¶hÃ¶
June 5, 2007

Medo
Top 10! Yehoo!
June 5, 2007

Randy
QOD: I’d have to say that lots of regions you’ve reviewed haven’t shown up for me: Douro, Loire valley, I have Sancerre pretty high on my list of stuff to try.
June 5, 2007

TagWorld Brian
12 baby
June 5, 2007

Autoproxy
QOTD: Fortunately I’ve tried all of the “major” regions/varietals through courses and self-experience, so I guess that leaves off-beat choices like a Charbono that I need to try. At least I’ve had to try it since I saw that Vermeil episode the other week…
June 5, 2007

SS Chris
Hey….where are all the comments?????

I’m having trouble watching the Viddler Video….not sure if that’s part of the reason for the limited comments.

Can’t believe you did such a marathon of Episodes.

thanks for your efforts Gary…and Erik…and Anti-Chris
June 5, 2007

Elliot Essman
An excellent remark on â€œtruenessâ€ in this simple wine, and definitely a valuable comparison to Pinot Grigios and Sauvignon Blancs that cost twice as much.

How about Vinho Verde from Portugal for the same purpose?
June 5, 2007

QueSeraSyrah
I absolutely love Muscadet… especially with oysters on the half shell. As for the QOD: Still have yet to try anything from Douro.
June 5, 2007

SS Chris
Oh….I thought this was yesterday’s Episode #248 and there were only 11 comments….NEVER MIND my last comment (except for the “thanks” part)!!!
June 5, 2007

Ryan D
I have had a muscadet, not overly impressed but it was decent, here are my notes. “Wife did not like, I thoroughly enjoyed. Not so much impressed as I thought I would be, and I probably won’t buy again at this price [$14], but it is a decent introduction to a muscadet and makes me want to try more. Found the wine to be quite smooth, hint of fruit. 83.”

QotD: To my knowledge I have never had a wine from Piedmont or Chablis.
June 5, 2007

Joe
Gary, THANK YOU for this episode. I am in the 5% who have tried Muscadet – used to buy a lot 5 to 10 years ago when I was poorer than I am now. Since moving to LA, I have not bought one Muscadet. I just forgot. Instead of my usual Sauv Blanc, Chenin Blanc, or Pinot Gris with California salads out at the pool, I am going to stock up on Muscadet again and make it our summer drink! Thanks for the reminder,

Joe
June 5, 2007

Rick McQ
Gary: You read my mind. I loved this show. I am a fan of Muscadet, even thought I have not had many. I just started getting into them this spring. Read my comment from yesterday. You did it and you were on vacation! Bring on the Oysters.
June 5, 2007

Joe
FredNYC:

Muscadet from the Loire Valley is bone dry and the perfect match for oysters. What do you drink with delicate shellfish….Barolo??
Joe
June 5, 2007

Hinrgman
QOTD – haven’t ventured into Ports yet
June 5, 2007

Bossman
GV,

Episode Minutes

245 17
246 19
247 16
248 15
249 12

I reckon by my best Jethro cipering episode 256 will barely be long enough to hold the “Welcome……. Vay-Ner-Chuk” and “you and a little bit….. wine world, aren’t we?”

Also, notice the left sleeve is now rolled up, looks like we have a prolonged strip tease in the making.

QOTD- Sadly most, although I did grab about 6 bottles of things other than my fruit bombs on my last order, baby steps.
June 5, 2007

TheDutchman
“Some of the breast values today” I love that
June 5, 2007

CindyW
Really interesting episode, Gary — I quite enjoyed it. I’ve never tried a muscadet and now plan to seek out a bottle to give this a try.

QOTD: obviously, muscadet
June 5, 2007

gustasopher
QOTD–Never had a Brunello nor a Mourvedre Hope to try both soon!

http://corkd.com/people/gusasopher
June 5, 2007

Brian
QOTD: There are actually a few that I’ve never tried. I’ve never had a really good French wine, nor have I had anything from Spain.
Glad I’m not the only one who heard him say breast.
June 5, 2007

JC
Never tried a muscadet, will have to.
June 5, 2007

chayut
i love muscadet – it’s extremely fresh

Never tried SuperTuscan yet – it’s too expensive
June 5, 2007

Paul
Top 30. Very lame.
June 5, 2007

countnocount
I always try to have a bottle of Muscadet on hand — great to quaff, also great to cook with.

QOTD: I’ve yet to taste a Chardonnay, whether from Burgundy or the New World, that’s made me want to buy a second bottle.
June 5, 2007

Jeffrey
qotd: Muscadet – and it sounds like something my wife would especially like, will have to pick some up!
June 5, 2007

Ben N.
Muscadet wines I need to try them.
June 5, 2007

SoCal
QOTD: Never had a Muscadet or a Groovy…..
June 5, 2007

avwineguy
Gary:

Sure do appreciate you not leaving us in the lurch while you go on vacation.

Comment: Couldn’t you have changed shirts and PRETENDED it was a different day? (You need a continuity person)

Suggestion: While no one has the Vaynerchuk palate, run a contest to guest host an episode or two while you are gone next time…could be fun???

From the repeated request dept: COSTCO
June 5, 2007

DK44
Interesting episode. I’ll have to give Muscadet a closer look.

QOTD: Can’t think of any wine types or countries that I’ve yet to try. There are lots of high end wines I’ve never tried. I’m especially interested in French first growths.

Cheers
June 5, 2007

E
85 = 5 * 17

That’s odd, I love me some Pepiere but it’s never struck me as overly vegetal, more lemony and salty and like having a little bit of the sea in a bottle, which is always nice. The Clos des Briords is even better, and I don’t it being much over 12 bucks … if you can find it, that is.

QOD: let’s go with Barolo, Sancerre (!), and Priorat–all of which are sleeping in the house somewhere, methinks.
June 5, 2007

thabeav
Thanks for reminding me about Muscadet. It is great juice for the money.

QOTD: never had a barolo….
June 5, 2007

flavasauce
That’s so funny…I opened a a Muscadet last night to have with Pesto Pasta. A 2005 Domaine de Quilla. I twas pretty tart lemon by itself but with the food it really sang. GV we are really in synch
QOTD: Grand Cru (?) Bordeaux-tooo expensive.
June 5, 2007

jorge
QOTD: I have never had Pinotage. Not sure I will like it, but them again, so far I like them all except for Muscadine, it just doesn’t agree with me or I with it.
June 5, 2007

vibemore
Should trueness matter in wine? In vino veritas. Of course. Thanks for bringing the true.

QOTD: Well, it is not a region, but I have never tried Kosher wine.
June 5, 2007

Dan R.
QOTD: Never had Muscadet but sound good. I don’t recall ever having Japanese Sake or if I did I had way too much.
June 5, 2007

PhilB
Quite a relevant ep, GV! I’m also in the 10% of the Muscadet drinkers… One one the best I’ve had was the Chasseloir that you tried, except their top cuvÃ©e, CuvÃ©e des Ceps Centenaires… Very good stuff to seek out! Another great bottle of the stuff is Loiret FrÃ¨res Muscadet SÃ¨vre et Maine sur lie Les Clissages d’or 2005 which, at 4 euros, is a steal… Then again, like Gary said, nothing to spend hundreds of $ on, but still something everybody should have once in a while…

Any of you have ever had an aged Muscadet??? Read an article last month about how these wines could age for 20 age and be awesome even then!! I’d be interested in getting your feedback on this…
June 5, 2007

Joseph M. Kennedy
QOTD: I’m still new to the wine world, so there’s a lot I haven’t tried yet.. That being said, I have a bunch of friends who are over the place as far as tastes and I’m getting to try a lot more.
June 5, 2007

Kathy
Haven’t had a Barolo due to the price. Having a hard time finding a red I like lately. Finding whites to be the values lately. Help me!!!
June 5, 2007

Andy
Never tried a true Muscadet but will in the future.. G you are the man!!!!!! Thanks you for the info.

QOTD— I really want to experience A TRUE Super Tuscan wine that brings like you say The Thunder….
June 5, 2007

Davo
I’m with ya on the quaffability (if that’s a word) of Muscadets. I’m going to serve it in a bucket with stone goblets next time.

QOTD: Jura & Sovoie
June 5, 2007

cdavis
QOTD – I have never had a Burgundy Pinot Noir.

Excellent episode! I had my first Muscadet 2 weekends ago with some Oysters! Very simple, yet enjoyable.
June 5, 2007

Careyd
QOTD:
I’ve never had a Pinotage. From the descriptions, I’m not sure I’d like it much, but I suppose I should try one someday. My experience, as is the case with many here, is very limited on 1st growth bordeaux and burgundy.

I would love to have the opportunity to taste these 1st growth wines, especially the ones that consistently score 96 and up, just to calibrate my palate with expectations. Wish I could find a tasting event in my area pouring these. Even if the price of admission was pretty high I think I’d go just to get my palate educated. But at $300 and up per bottle I can’t afford to just jump in!

Budget keeps me drinking wines (always under $100 a bottle and most often in the avg $25 ballpark. To my mind, every time I order a case I try to keep it in the $250-ish ballpark. That means when I order the $50 bottle I try to order a couple $10-12 bottles to get the average down.
June 5, 2007

KenP
Good ep. And with the summer months approaching… well, they’re here!
QOTD: Italian wines. The mishmash of DOC’s, its very uneven quality, makes it difficult to know where to jump in.
June 5, 2007

Bart F
Gary,

Believe it or not, never had a good Chablis! Love shell fish so will try it next time at the oyster house!
June 5, 2007

Jonathon M Chicago
QOTD: Pinotage.
Can’t wait for the 6/15 episode! GV might be a little loopy
June 5, 2007

Shad
QOTD: Being a newbie to the world of wine there are lots of different grapes I have not tried. After watching this episode I will be trying Muscadet. I want to try Malbec….better watch the Malbec episodes again
June 5, 2007

maggiej
QOTD: The list is long, but the next item is Italien wines- Chianti/Super Tuscans sound exciting.
June 5, 2007

cosmo108
Haven’t tried a few of the wallet busters: barolo, super tuscan…a good bordeaux. Enjoy drinking muscadet. I enjoy the simple mineral taste.
June 5, 2007

italianwinelover
Never tried a Muscadet…like reds better but what a good value to try!! will recommend it to my “whitey” friends!

Never have tried a Barolo…price point to high…but would love to visit them!
great ep!
June 5, 2007

Pastore
Haven’t had the pleasure of the Spanish wine in general, or any South African ones either. Both I hear have some phenomenal ones to choose from.
June 5, 2007

Jon B.
Interesting I’ve never tried a muscadet I’ll have to soon.QOTD Obviously as I just stated muscadet.. but really alot of france I’ve yet to explore I’m a little intimidated but I have a few in mind…
June 5, 2007

RieslingRon
QOTD: Austria is probably the area I haven’t experienced as yet. I have had other Loire varieties, but not Muscadet………I’ll look for some of these.
June 5, 2007

1855class
very interesting episode. i don’t recall ever trying a muscadet.
qotd- i really need to explore the loire valley, the northern rhone and langudoc-rousillion. also, i’ve never had the pleasure of drinking a DRC…poor me.
June 5, 2007

MikeBro
Never had a Muscadet, but itâ€™s on my long list of wines to seek out.

QOTD: I’ve a hankering for Barolos, never tried those..

Safe Travels,

YOU LUCKY VAYNIAC

MB
June 5, 2007

Chris
QOTD: Airen. In fact, I can say I’ve never had a Spanish white, unless you count Cava.
June 5, 2007

Clifford James
Thanks you for being conscious of bargains for us po’ folks! I mean it, that’s a good thing to focus on.

“A chemical that fixes the rooms we make mistakes in.” Hahahahaha

QOTD: I have to admit that my weak varietals are all of the whites save Sauvignon Blanc, which, thanls to you and your show, I now seek out.

I’ll give a Muscadet a whirl soon.

Hope you’re having a blast!
June 5, 2007

ecola
QOTD: No Champagne, and very little from the boot.
June 5, 2007

Orion Slayer
Muscadet:
This seems like a great wine to try, but I’m leary because most white wines seem to taste like either a Chardonnay or a Sauvignon blanc. Is this a common phenomenon with new wine drinkers? Or could it be that I’m not sampling wines from different regions of the world?

QOTD:
Piedmont! I’ve read about this great Italian region, but have not as yet had a Barbera, Barolo, Barbaresco, Dolcetto, Nebbiolo, Grignolino, Malvasia. I’m definitely missing out!
June 5, 2007

vivaitalia
QOTD: I have yet to try a wine from Priorat in Spain. I just started drinking Ribero de Duero wines and they are stellar. I’m part of the 91.6% but I think I’ll be trying one in a few days. Now that summer is here in Florida A nice glass of really cold white wine is great when you get home from work. Wow, come to think of it i’ve never had A wine from South Africa either, i’ve got some work to do.
June 5, 2007

Shadowbird
I’ve never had Muscadet, but I have had Muscat. (I know, probably not the same thing.)

QOTD: I’ve tasted but have never really had a Shiraz/Syrah before. I’ve also never had any true Old World wines (champagne, burgundy, Bordeauxs) or Italian wines other than one pinot grigio that I didn’t particularly like *cough*Folonari*cough*. And I still haven’t had a Pinot Noir.
June 5, 2007

JonE
QOTD:Greek wine, never made the venture. And does zweigelt count or is that just too obscure, I’m tryin’ Gary. If your going to do Muscadet, i really think you need to highlight your favorite Anjou/Savenierre. Baumard?!@! Quarts du Chaume!?!@#! Do it!!!
June 5, 2007

Billman
QOTD: Chablis
June 5, 2007

wolfie
good episode. i’ve never tried one of these, although i’ve checked them out at the local store. i’m always afraid that they’re going to taste like nothing. but the oysters comment… i’ll have to grab a couple of bottles of this and shuck a few dozen and see how it pans out!

qotd: i think i’ve had most of the major varietals. i’ve never had a hermitage though
June 5, 2007

Jay
QOTD: After reading all the other posts I think my what have I tried list is shorter than the what I haven’t tried list. I have really been tasting Reislings, Gewurztraminer and New Zealand Pinot Noirs. I also have been doing a lot of ports and that is about it. I am fairly new to the wine world so that would explain it. I would love to try some Ice Wines from Germany, anything from the Finger Lakes area, some French and Italian wines. I really love sweet wines if you haven’t noticed can’t explain why I like Pinots from New Zealand though.
June 5, 2007

cgf
Good episode gary. The region as theme are my favorite episodes and always encourage me to go out and explore.

qotd: Barbaresco. I really want to try them, but they tend to be expensive. I have an ‘01 Produttori di Barbaresco that I am looking forward to popping.
June 5, 2007

Annapolitan
Gary, Touche! I was just going to ask about a muscadet show and Voila! In fact, you reviewed one I had last night! We concur. Been drinking them for decades. Here on the Chesapeake they are soldiers. QOTD: Haven’t had a super tuscan yet. I’m an Old World guy.
June 5, 2007

portland guy
Excellent episode. Perfect timing as I am trying to fill out our white wine ’summer’ needs. Had totally forgotten about muscadet, which I have enjoyed in the past. QOTD – many of the ‘Italian’ grapes.
June 5, 2007

pegleg
I don’t taste nearly enough malbecs as i should.
June 5, 2007

chuck
QOTD i have yet to have a german red eventhough cold duck is derived from german.
Muscadet and portuguese reds were a mainstay for me a few years back due to the fact that even in utah they were ten dollars
June 5, 2007

Herm
Gary are there any good wines from Russia or Belarus?….I would like to give them a try….Thanks for the episode on Muscadet. Is Muscadet and muscatel the same thing?
June 5, 2007

geespot
I love Sancerre so this Muscadet seems a logical venture since I’m always looking for a bargain. The flavor profiles you described today seem similar to the Sancerre take on sauv blanc, very exciting, thanks Gary!.

QOD: There are several varietals/regions I’ve not tried, but at the top of my list has to be true Burgundy Pinot. I just gotta see for myself what the sticker price means.
June 5, 2007

Neil
The fourth show in the mega marathon and Gary’s getting a bit slower. Still in control but more measured. Twelve shows with 3-4 tastings per show is 36-48 wines. It would be funny on the last show if Gary blows into a breathalizer.

QOTD: Chile, Argentina and Spain. I’m more of a Cali/French/Italian/New Zealand/Austrailia wine drinker. Regarding Chile, I have recently enjoyed a red blend called 2004 Maquis Lein with a lizard of some sort on the label. It is 60% Syrah, 25% Carmenere, 9% Petit Verdot and 6% Malbec and was quite tasty.
June 5, 2007

yowens44
I’ll admit I’ve never had a Muscadet but there’s one in our cellar! Actually, a friend passed along muscadet as a good summer seafood wine and we bought a bottle a couple weeks ago, still yet unconsumed. Although I guess I committed a big foe-pah? when a purchased a 2003 (im told it should be only a couple years old at most). QOTD: Dont know. Maybe Tokaji? If I did I would find it- love exploring personal new wines/regions.
June 5, 2007

Brooklyn Paul
I’m always looking to get a buzz on, so maybe I should give these a try?
June 5, 2007

ChadD.
I’ve never had a Muscadet-also lacking in Italian wine beyond chianti, sangovese, and Super T’s.I ate at nice Italian restaurant the other day and didn’t know half of the wines on the list.
June 5, 2007

Brooklyn Paul
I liked this episode. Haven’t had a Muscadet in a long time, so I thinks it’s time try one again.

QOTD: Not sure there are any major varietals/regions that I have not tried. And thanks to the WLTV offlines, even if I hadn’t, it’s most likely been rectified!
June 5, 2007

Larry
Love Austrian Reislings and look forward to trying some muscadet.

QOTD: Not too familiar with French or Spanish wines. I’ve had them but I couldn’t tell you anything about them.
June 5, 2007

BCWinesAreIn
I’d be one of those people who’s never tried a Muscadet. look forward to experimenting.
QOTD – Gruner Veltliner is one I haven’t tried yet.
June 5, 2007

portman
Thank you. I appreciate yet another wine I have yet to try. Looks like a good option to go with the sauvignon blanc and pinot grigio on a hot summer day in the (did I mention?) the barren wine lands of Maine.

QOTD: Most Spanish varieties, super tuscans, Greek and other mediteranean (sp?) varieties.
June 5, 2007

Winodontist
Educating us about new wines as well as foreign exchance currency rates, what a show!!!

QOTD: I have never had a wine from New Zealand, of any varietal. Guess I better work on that eh?
June 5, 2007

eugene
Now we are talking!

I drink Muscadet often and like it a lot. Gary you should’ve explain what “sevre et maine” and “sur lie” mean. I always look for these on the label.

QOTD: Barollo-never had one, believe me or not!
June 5, 2007

amgryger
QOTD: Near had anything from South Africa. Some day though.
June 5, 2007

Dave Canada
Nice…..love the iron cross sign off.
QOTD – It’s gotta by Oregon. I’ve only had one bottle of Columbia Crest so I need to do some exploration there!
June 5, 2007

dkeck
Gary,
Love the value wines! Changing the wine world in my mind also means not being stuck on one brand or country.

QOTD: I have not tried a malbec wine.
June 5, 2007

DS
Muchas gracias for the Muscadet episode. A friend turned me on to Muscadet several years ago. I liked them for the same reasons you do–crisp, clean, not fake, cheap! I have not had a bottle in nearly a year. Thanks for the reminder.
June 5, 2007

Randy B
You nailed it, I have never had a Muscadet and I drink a lot of wine. I promise to try one this week.

Ciao
June 5, 2007

Dominus
Nice episode though not a big fan of Muscadet. I’ve had them after erroneously thinking I was ordering a sweeter, Muscat wine. I really like the Moscato di Asti.

QOTD: I’ve never had a Tokay Pinot Gris.
June 5, 2007

Cam
QOTD: I’ve never had a Barolo, though I’m planning on buying one my next trip to our local wine shop.
June 5, 2007

Jon K
Drinking out of rocks?
June 5, 2007

Robin
QOTD yesterday: You could keep a couple of boxes of wines you like and once a week have someone dressed up as Dracula set 3 of them (wines from the crypt) up for a blind tasting with a ringer that’s more or less expensive than the rest and see if it makes it fresher for you than just presenting some wines you like. You don’t have to do the Dracula part; I just like Dracula.
QOTD today: I’ve never had a muscadet and I don’t think Ive had a barbera.

Talk some more about “fakiness” in wine. Are Gallos fakey?
June 5, 2007

Montrose
Despite Clive Coats saying that it “is properly recognized as a serious vin de garde-producing cepage”, I cannot say that I have ever managed to try Tannat. I think the problem is that there are few imported and I am a bit like a kid in a candy store when I visit my local wine merchant and am easily distracted. But I am young still, so perhaps there is still hope.
By the way, fine job question of the day.
June 5, 2007

Dan. M.
The first wine I ever bought in a multiple case lot was way too many years ago, but it was a Muscadet. Before the 10% case discount it was $1.99 a bottle, and I bought three cases. Good stuff!

QOtD – until last month that would have been a Gruner Veltliner, but now I would have to go with an Rkatsitelli.
June 5, 2007

TommyBoBo of WI
QOTD: I’ve not had anything made in Wisconsin!!! I just can’t do it, and you can’t make me!!!
Maybe too much Amana Colonies fresh Rubarb/strawberry “wine” growing up,, don’t know but I’m not going there,,,, ever.
June 5, 2007

TimF
Yeah, we’re not all wearing Cartier watches.

Millions of peaches, peaches for me.

In the 1600s you would have been using a coconut shell to drink your wine.

Lemme check. Yup. ‘Seeked’ is still not a word.

I haven’t spent much time in carrot fields.

Brown rice with sushi?

QOTD: Muscadet. I’m sure I’ve had one but it doesn’t stick out for me. I love oysters so I’ll seek that pairing out next time.
June 5, 2007

Kevin M
QOTD: LAME – You need a vacation
June 5, 2007

Susan
Gary-Great EP!!!! Wish I was in Greece!!!!
Seeked is still not a word.
QOTD:
Never had a muscadet.
Thanks for the education on the varietal, location,etc!!!
June 5, 2007

Jen
QOTD: hmmmm…. I don’t think I’ve had a red Burgundy yet. I KNOW!!! It’s RIDICULOUS!!!!!
June 5, 2007

Martin
never’ve had a real champagne
June 5, 2007

mike m
Enough with the whites already zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I think I’m in the wrong demographic for WLTV,too old I guess.Nice knowing you
June 5, 2007

JustinL
QOTD: I have never had an Aussie Shiraz.
June 5, 2007

NathanN
QOTD: I never have had a muscadet, dornfelder, gruener, and lots of others. I’m working on it though.
June 5, 2007

David DeFazio
I love muscadet, but have never had a cab franc ice wine.
June 5, 2007

mikeyrad
I’m with Careyd, I’ve never had a Pinotage, but banana on the nose sounds pretty cool.
June 5, 2007

t_moderne
QOTD: I have yet to taste a Lebanon wine. Masur? not yet!
I have not yet tasted a wine from Texas or Virginia.
And while I have tasted many wines from NY State, Vemont, rhode island and Mass., I have yet to taste a wine from any of these states that I would actually want to taste again.
I have tasted a wine from New Jersey. You?
June 5, 2007

kinnup6
Gary,

I down load your podcast every day. I love reds and my wife loves whites. You really give me insight into wines and I have tried some based on your recommendations. I loved the Barolo session. I can’t wait to try your recommendations. I would love a wrist band if you have one. Keep up the good work.

kinnup6
June 5, 2007

kinnup6
P.S.

Gary…I posted…I AM NOT A LURKER!!!! Yahooooooo!!!!!

kinnup6
June 5, 2007

nougat
Love the Muscadet bottle shape – it’s unique.

Greece. I’ve never had a Greek wine.
June 6, 2007

Marc
QOTD: Toss up between nice Italian wines (barolo, barbaresco), which doesn’t bother me too much, and Portugal, which I have a bottle of a Duoro called Quinta do Cao that I’m dying to try.
June 6, 2007

glenn
love those oysters and Muscadet on hot day – perfect lunch. well done. got an example of great Muscadet we should seek out here in the “fish bars” of the west coast? WTF are these places anyway?

QotD: Douro. help me.
June 6, 2007

E
That reminds me, in the interest of clearing up confusion:

Muscadet = white Loire wine made from Melon grapes (see above)
Muscadelle = a different grape found in white Bordeaux blends
Muscat/Muscatel = yet another white grape used all over the world to make usually sweet dessert type wines, although I think there are a few dry ones too

Sparkling Muscatel = one of the finest wines of Idaho!
June 6, 2007

Darlene O.
Love the episode, Gary!! QOD: Have not tried the Priorat region, would be interested in doing so.
June 6, 2007

Medo
Oh, forgot the QOTD:

I never had a white Zin – should I feel guilty?
June 6, 2007

Bryan
QOTD: Never had anything from Bordeaux…changing that shortly. Also, experience with whites has been fairly lacking – discovered I greatly preferred red several years ago and havent looked back (in my early twenties). The recent episodes featuring white wines are opening my eyes though.
June 6, 2007

Pablo
QOTD: I have never had any kind of white wine .. ever.
June 6, 2007

TSchampaert
Nice. Try the top cuvÃ©es of Sauvion one time. They’ll definitely bring the thunder and they last in the cellar (not like the average Musc).
QOTD: Never had an Uruguayan Tannat. Maybe it’ll change shortly as there is a Casa Filguera in the cellar.
June 6, 2007

Robert F
After four and a half months of drinking pretty much ONLY loire wines, I’m actually in the mood for a change. I’ve wanted an over-the-top cali Zin for quite a while, but they don’t import american wines in small french towns in the middle of a wine growing region.

QOTD: I’ve never had an wine from Italy.
June 6, 2007

SP
QOTD: New Zealand SB…just haven’t gotten around to picking one up yet.
June 6, 2007

Chriswalkenrules
I have never had any Beaujolais but I am going to run out and buy a Muscadet with a bouquet that includes pig snout. Great episode Gary!
June 6, 2007

Rob B.
I have never had a Muscadet, but will give one a try.
QOTD: I have not had any barolo or barbaresco.
June 6, 2007

Lynne
Well, it would be easier to tell you types that I HAVE had. The never-had-list is rather a long one. Never had:
Georgian, Lebanese, Portugese, Balkan, Grecian, Japanese, Hungarian, Canadian..and on and on.
I’ve never had a Muscadet, either. But I now want to try it.
June 6, 2007

E
OK, one last thing: I’ve heard tell that the only place outside the Loire Valley where there is any serious Melon being grown and etc. is in Oregon? Is this true, and if so is it good?
June 6, 2007

Kathleen Lisson
I’m ashamed to report that I have not consumed as much sparkling wine as I should have. I still need to try Cava and Sekt.
Kathleen Lisson
Albany, NY

Wine and Stories form the Vineyard http://www.myspace.com/gamay
June 6, 2007

Tiny Enemy Crab
Long time watcher, first time… poster? Just wanted to say I love the show! I watch it (nearly) every day at work. The amount I’ve learned about wine is just amazing from watching your show, and you make it so entertaining! Keep up the awesome job!
June 6, 2007

Capitol1
Great show you’ve got here. I’m a KC Chiefs fan, not a big Muscadet fan. Today’s X-factor signoff reminded me of Dante Hall – though he’s recently escaped to the Rams. I’m wondering what wine you think would best compliment “Jets on the barbie” for dinner on December 30?! Something in the price range of 500 nickels would be great.
June 6, 2007

Jeff M.
The past tense of seek is sought, not seeked.
June 6, 2007

wine-ot
LAST!!! Q.O.D. – Never had Muscadet…didn’t even know how to pronounce it…and I love oysters!! Gosh I love reasons to eat and drink! Anxious to try the pairing…thanks Mr GV!
June 6, 2007

wine-ot
Oh and VAyniacs…if we have to learn something every day, might as well be about wine, right!!!
June 6, 2007

jason carey
many people confuse Muscadet with muscat..
Muscat=aromatic grape…
Muscadet non-aromatic grape
also the grape is known both as Muscadet and Melon de Bourgogne
June 6, 2007

jason carey
oh on more thing, some better ones 15-18 dollar range can age excellently, contrary to popular belief.
I have had 10 an 12 year old muscadets that are very impressive.
June 6, 2007

j carey
oh on more thing, some better ones 15-18 dollar range can age excellently, contrary to popular belief.
I have had 10 an 12 year old muscadets that are very impressive.
June 6, 2007

Cliff A
Great episode Gary. Mucadet needs to be brought to the forefront. Like you, a big oyster and fan and nothing goes as well with a raw oyster as Muscadet. I look at Chereau Carre as the “go to” Muscadet. If you want to experience pure “terrior” in Muscadet I’d recommend Domaine de l’Ecu. Anyone of Guy Bossard’s crus reflects the terrior of the western Loire. These Muscadets can age for 10 years.

QOTD – Never had anything from India, China, or Arizona!
June 6, 2007

DougieFresh
Gary is unreal! I love the show… it is WAAAAY better than 24.

Please send me a wristband!
June 6, 2007

Karl B.
QOTD – I never have had a Pinotage, I can’t remember having a New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc, and not familiar with Carrignane (sp?).

Muscadets are fabulous values and this is the time of year to have them. They go with shellfish (raw oysters or clams) but not with lobster, crab, etc. Serve them cold and quaff away. No better way to spend a late afternoon in Boston’s North End or at a pier on the shore than with one of these bottles and some oysters on the half shell.
June 6, 2007

Sarah L
I liked the few Muscadets that I’ve tried.

I am so excited and happy about today’s free shipping offer. Nice selection.

Thanks Gary
June 6, 2007

Jim H.
QOTD:The are probably hundreds of grape varieties in Italy that I’ve never heard of, let alone tasted.

I always laugh out loud during your shows.
Keep up the great work.
June 6, 2007

WINO
QOTD- Loire Valley is probably one of the regions that I have never tried, along with, obviously Muscadet.
June 6, 2007

Justin S
My .02; It was nice to meet a wine rep the other day that realizes the demographic is changing for wine buyers. I hate stuck up and stuffy wine reps!
Shout out to Opici Importers.

QOTD: Loire and Languedoc, I need to delve into that region. Also German Rieslings.
June 6, 2007

Lawrence Leichtman
I’m not sure there are many wines I have not tried or regions I haven’t tried. Tryng to think of some but nothing comes to mind. I have had wine from every state in the US including Hawaii and Alaska. Many were not good many were not memorable but they were all wine. Muscadets with any shellfish are great and always a good buty. I keep about 3 bottles around for just easy food matching. The one wine I don’t have around is German Riesling because my wife just doesn’t like them alas. Also German reds as I haven’t found any I like.
June 6, 2007

MannyPants
Sought. Can’t wait to give muscadet a shot. What’s a good one, since none on the show seemed to be clear winners?
June 6, 2007

wm mole
Found a muscadet yesterday and it was just like you said, low price, great taste…thanks!

QOTD: Alsace, Mosul rieslings, priorat, high end brdx
June 6, 2007

Flamenco Girl
I’ve had a muscadet before, based upon Gary’s recommedation from an earlier show, Domaine Le Fruitiere. Gary reviewed the 2005 and I spotted the 2004 in a local grocery. I bought a bottle and liked it and have since bought several more.
June 6, 2007

Juiced
Gary,

Manzanilla, especially from Hidalgo is great with oysters and a nice sea breeze also an unbelievable bargin. Tough sell in USA though. Good Show
June 6, 2007

Greg B.
Big G. Nice, a new type of Wine to seek out. I’m on it. QOTD. After watching WLTV I’ve found that there are too many to list, but I’m sure catching up.
June 6, 2007

Kelldey
Another great ep! QOTD: I’m still a fairly new Vayniac and wine drinker/collector, so there are a ton of varietals I have not tried. The one I am still seeking here in the cultural black hole (OK) is the Spanish Albarino. It sounded so good on your show.

Hope you’re having a great time on your trip!
K
June 6, 2007

Lurkerdog
Buon Giorno,

Another interesting show. I look forward to the opportunity to try a Muscadet. I am definitely part of the 91.8% who have not tried it. One varietal I am interested in trying is German Reisling. They always seem to get very good scores and seems to be relatively good values. I have tried some finger lake’s Reislings and enjoyed them and am curious as to how they stand up to the German Reislings.

Chow
June 6, 2007

Justmarsh
Don’t underestimate us Gary. I’m willing to bet more than 4% of us have had a muscadet. I’ve had the Chereau Carre Muscadet Chateau De Chasseloir.

QOD: I’m pretty unfamiliar with the primo Italian reds like Barolo, Brunello, barbaresco, super tuscans and such. It’s not that I don’t want to try them, (they sound awesome) but it’s tough to drop 60 bones on a bottle. Where are the bargains? There are even bargains in Bordeaux!! Am I missing something???
June 6, 2007

Pantheras
I think I was one of the original subscribers to the
California Connoisseur. The reason I no longer subscribe
is that they constantly published reviews of wines that
no one could buy. I felt they were thumbing their nose
and saying look what we can do that you can’t do.
I really appreciate what you are doing. No one will
ever call you a wine snob.
June 6, 2007

Pantheras
I once stopped in Sonotia, AZ, the wine capital of Arizona, to
get gas. I asked the guy at the service station where all the
grapes were since this was the wine capital. He said,”son grapes
ain’t the only thing they make wine out of”. I was afraid to
ask any more questions. I think the wine maker of Chalk Hill
grew up in Sonotia. They manipulate the wine so much, there is no
trace of the grape left. Their very expensive SB is without any
trace of SB grapes. Their Chards are manipulated to the second
decimal point on exactly how much malolatic fermentation they
will allow. And Oak Monster …
June 7, 2007

tarheel17
QOTD: Never had a nebbiolo, barolo, super tuscan, etc. . . I’ve got some in the cellar that I’m waiting to try out!
Amazingly enough, I’ve actually had a muscadet! I thought it was OK. It was less than $10, I’m sure.

Megan
June 7, 2007

YoungDave
QOTD: My “shortcomings” in the variety of what the wine world has to offer is within Italy, primarily in the Super Tuscan area. I’ve tasted barbaresco, but rarely can I fork up the “bones” to try the “super” Sangio-Cab blends, or even the Nebbiolo-based Borolos. I know I’m missing out here, but the wallet isn’t allowing me the option.
June 7, 2007

Jim Wilkerson
Embarassing holes in my wine-tasting history:
Barolo/Barbaresco
ChÃ¢teauneuf-du-Pape
Sauternes
Super Tuscan

Less embarassing holes:
Muscadet
Albarino
Santa Barbara County
Austrian
Finger Lakes or Long Island
June 7, 2007

MtnCharlie
QOTD: Muscadet is definitely a shortcoming. Tokaji. I have had a bit (very small bit) of the major varieties from around the world. A lot of west coast wines, primarily because of availability (I am in CA). Current focus is on old world (focusing on France). Have not had much from Spain. None from Hungary, Greece, Baltics. No ice wines. Not much from Argentina. So, shortcomings everywhere
June 7, 2007

Matt the Lurker
QOTD – I’m weak in the France.
June 7, 2007

Grasshopper
Just catching up after being on the road a couple days….

Does white rice have cholesterol?

QOTD – Portugese wines

Grasshopper
June 7, 2007

Louisiana George
still have not had a true dessert wine (Sauterne and the like)
June 7, 2007

J Crazy
QOTD: Chinese wines…Idian wines?!? Muscadet are quite nice with the sushi I mow down on over here in Japan.
June 7, 2007

Art Rose
i think you will find that some of these Muscadets will actually improve with age. the Pepiere for sure because i know it well, but the others likely as well. i htink that this is simply the BEST value in white wine period. I’m glad you tried them; next time get a bit of age on them (even 2-3 years)and they will fill out.
June 8, 2007

BobMac
I’d never even heard of Muscadet wines before today. I’ll have to search one out and give ‘em a try.
June 8, 2007

Martijn
QOTD: I’ve never tried a Barolo, mostly a price thing I guess. Know of any good QPR Barolo’s or even a very affordable one to get a good idea of what this wine is all about?
June 8, 2007

mcj
QOTD: Never had a Barolo, and my experience with Rieslings is pretty limited. I’m sure there are many I’ve never heard of or tried.
June 8, 2007

wildebeest
QOTD: I’ve never had a Barolo, a Barbaresco, or a Brunello, so I guess I’ve really been neglecting Italian B’s. Of course, the prohibitive cost of these wines is a major factor. I’ve never had a hermitage either, but that looks entirely out of reach for a while. I’ll work through the others a little at a time.
June 9, 2007

Wine Lush
I need to start experiencing German reds. Spatburgunder etc….
June 9, 2007

wildebeest
I’ll stick to Crozes Hermitage for a while; and I just put in an order for a Barolo. …Overall. the world of white wines is the most overlooked area in my pursuit of fine libations. Sure I’ve had a few Sauvignon Blancs and Rieslings and an oaky Chardonnay or two, but I’ve yet to venture far beyond the big three.
June 9, 2007

Tad
QOD:

Very weak when it comes to non-Sangiovese based Italians.
June 10, 2007

thkorent
QOTD: Portugal and Spain, except for the standard riojas.
June 10, 2007

Jeff
QOTD: I said this in my comments yesterday or the day before but I’ve never had a Barolo…but I do have two in my cellar?!?!
June 11, 2007

Michael H
QOTD — Sadly enough, I have never had a Muscadet. I have had Muscat, but I think I need to make a foray into the Muscadet world…
June 11, 2007

Fran Benavidez
I haven’t had the pleasure of trying a Barolo, mainly because of price!
June 20, 2007

Daniel Rymer
Can’t say I’ve had Muscadet (wow, that has a nice rhyme), but I’m adding it to my shopping list in corkd today. Thanks Gary!
June 27, 2007

Randy
Gary, Just had my first Muscadet tonight, a Domaine Les Hautes NoÃ«lles ‘04 Muscadet CÃ´tes de Grandlieu. Tasty!

I gotta say (again) that had I never watched WLTV, who knows if I would’ve EVER tried a Muscadet. You rock!
August 6, 2007

greentox
The Pepiere Muscadet Sur Lie is my standard at home white wine. I find it pretty mineralish in addition to the greens. A perfect complement to food of the sea. I’d agree with the other comment that Gary should explain “sur lie”, it brings an almost frizzy quality to the wine.
January 17, 2008

ovarge
hmmmm…very interesting!
Thanks google
February 16, 2008

Fangorn81
“Breast values today” !! Tsk tsk tsk…oh that Freud and his slips!
February 16, 2008

Fangorn81
QOTD: Never had a Cabernet Sauvingon. Seriously. Though, I have a bottle of Root:1 2005 on my shelf as I type this…But I am waiting to open it till I can share it w/ my dad. He raved about it, and that’s why I bought it (plus a few for him, apparently this vintage is hard to find now). So that will be taken care of soon.

Oh, and I’ve never had a Riesling.
March 5, 2008

redfrog
GV – Love these…. not all the time, but I see them having a perfect time and place.

QOTD – Shortcoming…. Cabernet Franc is something that I have never had on its own, hopefully we can fix that this weekend.
July 14, 2008

Dessert Wine Nerd
I do believe at 1:53 you said “…breast values in the world.” I do like to see gary get sloshed! Sweet episode, though. A inexpensive white wine for me to try and not worry about breaking the bank while expanding my palate. QOTD: Never had a Red Bordeaux (have had some Sauternes), but own one that is cellaring and I plan on buying and cellaring some more. Hey Im changing the wine world!!!!
June 24, 2009

Adrian
Another varietal to be noted down on the list…by the way is this muscadet the same as muscat?
July 1, 2009

Phredd
QOTD – I have so many weaknesses, I don’t even want to discuss them. I tend to really focus on the things I like, and get know them in depth, to the exclusion of some other areas. Which is to say, this show, with its palate-expanding mantra, is made for me.

I’ll definitely put muscadet on my “to be tried” list.

@Adrian: Muscadet is definitely not muscat. Muscadet is made from the Melon de Bourgogne grape, and is usually made dry, while Muscat is made from the Muscat grape, and is often (but not always) used for sweeter wines. Search “muscat” and “muscadet” on wikipedia.