Pinot Noir from France aka Burgundy

Pinot Noir from France aka Burgundy - Episode #282

July 26, 2007

Gary tastes the entry level Pinot Noir’s from Burgundy.

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“NICE one!

QOTD: First one today! 05 louis latour baune villages. …” by Canadian Chris
“Great Episode! I will be searching out the “Kosta/Sea Smoke” style bec…” by The Fanjestic
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Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Marechal Bourgogne Rouge Cuvee GravelBourgogne Rouge
2005 Danjean Berthoux Bourgogne RougeBourgogne Rouge
2004 Arnoux Bourgogne Pinot FinBourgogne Rouge
2005 Patrice Rion Bourgogne RougeBourgogne Rouge

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about 2 months ago

Canadian Chris
NICE one!

QOTD: First one today! 05 louis latour baune villages. Nice, very perfumed, lots of stuff to like about it. I’d like to drink more if they weren’t so bloody expensive!
about 3 months ago

The Fanjestic
Great Episode! I will be searching out the “Kosta/Sea Smoke” style because that’s more my palate. However I have only had a few Burgundy wines - but I have purchsed several and I am looking forward to expanding my palate.

Did David B. come to the Galaxy before or after this episode I wonder? Did GV make a bad prediction or a joke…..
about 5 months ago

Aaron
About 25, but at age 20, that can’t be so bad…
about 6 months ago

Alos Diallo
Not sure if I have answered this already but at current count right now I am guessing 30. I live off of French wine! I was watching this episode because I am bidding on a bottle of
1998 Domaine De La Romanee-Conti Echezeaux and wanted to get myself in the mood :-). Great episode I would love to see a hight end French pinot episode.
about 7 months ago

Skol
good episode. Just in time to start stocking up on less expensive burgundies from 05.

I have tried about 350 different burgundies red and white.
about 8 months ago

Matt Sievert
QOTD: A few, but way before I started to “enjoy” wine.
about 8 months ago

Withnail
QOTD: 100+
about 9 months ago

Sam I
I love the educational episodes!
about 9 months ago

quaker prison
I agree with Phig, Burgundies are food wines while a lot of Cali pinots are bombastic stand alone stuff. I have about 120 Burgundies in the cellar now and always looking for more! The best wine I have ever had (not labeled “Yquem”) was a 1976 Chambertin. Phenomenal.

QOTD: Hard to say, has to be in the several hundred range. Can’t wait to double that number!
about 9 months ago

wayno da wino
YOOOO GARY!!!

Dat was an appetizing segment!! “Stick da nose in da
horse’s ass”,”biting a shoe wit muddy poop”. Gimme
somma dat Nooooooooooowwwww!!!!

QOTD: Tried quite a few burgundys in da 80’s, but now
like da California Pinots much more!!
about 9 months ago

Dee
QOD: 15 or so. Initially b/c i thought that, after Sideways, my PN education would have been incomplete without understanding the ‘holy grail.’ now, b/c i’m a true, perhaps old world, fan of their nuance and complexity.
about 9 months ago

JayZee
Nice show once again, Gary. QOTD: I have been drinking “cheap” Burgundies from France for a number of years so I am guessing I have had 50-60 different Burgundies from France, but very few of the Cru Burgundies (10-12). The Crus are just too darn expensive, IMHO.
about 9 months ago

mcj
QOTD: Probably 7-10
about 9 months ago

YoungDave
QOTD: Although I’ve been buying much more wine from France (Loire Sauv. Blanc, Cote du Rhone, Macon Villages, CAHORS, Bordeaux Blanc and Rouge, etc.) I’ve only bought ONE Red Burgundy. It was $15 (which is above my usual $9-$12 range), yet I got what I paid for: the wine was not a Burgundy value, but rather an underwhelming entry-point wine from this region. I may try another one soon, but might have to fork over $20 bones to experience some solid wine from this classic region.
about 9 months ago

phig
my cellar consists of almost 70% Burgundy of which more than half is red. I’ve had hundreds and hundreds of them over the years.
The above comments suggest that what is by far the most exciting (and yes, the most frustrating) wine region in the world will continue to not get so much pressure that I can no longer feed my addiction.
Making the leap will mean radically altering your way of thinking about wine. They MUST BE DRUNK WITH FOOD. They are more acidic, more elegant, more minerally, less oaky and vastly more interesting than anything coming from anywhere else in the world. While it is true that there are a lot of stinkers, you have to find the producers you like and follow them. You also can’t expect the wine to be the same from year to year. That is part of the thrill! A year like 2004 (in reds) will be high strung and a little wild (Arnoux being an exception in this case) and 2005 richer and broader. Still, if you make the leap, and give it some time, you will begin to see why at this point, having been through several stages (never US wines though, hate the new oak) I have landed in Burgundy and not left for close to ten years now. Remember that there are even good wines in the 12-15 range. Try some of the Bouchard wines (for a fantastic negociant), particularly the 2005 Bourgogne rouge or again Jadot (though their low end can be touch and go). Potel’s strait Burg is also good (in 2004 and 2005).
Great show. I’m excited to try the Arnoux and thanks to the previous comment on the location of the vineyards. Makes sense, especially with the description given by Gary.
Thanks for a great episode. I’ve been losing interest a bit but this was well worth it.
about 9 months ago

surf.sf
Loved the episode I’ll have to find some of that Arnoux and Patrice Rion! Went to Pinot Days in SF a couple weeks ago and Santa Barbara a couple weeks earlier. Everything was bright strawberries or a darker blackberry jam (call this zinfandel flavored pinot?) and no poop or barnyard. QOTD: I’ve had about five or so Burgundies, can’t wait to have some more!
about 9 months ago

Barry
QOTD: Must admit I have had no Pinot from France, or at least not that I know of, as I cannot decipher most French labels.
about 9 months ago

Martin
No Pinot Noir from Burgundy, only Beaujalais
about 9 months ago

Jayhitek
QOTD: I don’t think I have had any..? Probably 100% from Cali, Wash, Oreg etc..
about 9 months ago

vibemore
QOTD: I don’t have a clear memory on this one. Probably less than 5 and it has for sure been a while.
about 9 months ago

Ferrigno
Hello Gary, good episode on the generic burgs, this reminds me, I never sent you the picture of my birthday present, expect it soooooooon!
about 9 months ago

Bill Luby
Good idea for an episode, Gary.

QOTD: about 15 pinots from France (vs. 200 or so from California/Oregon) — largely because the selection of California/Oregon wines is so much better for someone who lives about 20 minutes from the Sonoma County line. Actually, I prefer the Old World style pinots.
about 9 months ago

Totte
QotD : Maybe 40+ something…some from Alsace though. If champagne counts i guess its a 100 +

Cheers

Swedish T
about 9 months ago

Dan NYC
QOTD: Probably 20-30 had a 1985 DRC echezeaux which rocked my friggin world.
about 9 months ago

wannaBconnoisseur
QOTD: A handful, some have been good, a couple have been a little to dirty and old world for me.