89 Point Wines, What Is The Deal!

89 Point Wines, What Is The Deal! – Episode #482

June 10, 2008

So many people stay away from the 89 point scored wines like it has the black plague, WHY? Gary Vaynerchuk explores these wines!

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“Just opened the 2006 Denner Theresa after sitting on it for about 2 ye…” by LEAH
“You hit the nail right on the head. I see an 89 point wine and go meh…” by Dessert Wine Nerd
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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Travis ChardonnayOther California Chardonnay
2006 Denner TheresaOther California White Rhone V
2004 Mas Carlot Cab/syrahSouthwest France
2005 Core RedOther California Rhone Blends

Links mentioned in todays episode.

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June 11, 2008

sgevurtz
Gary, I keep asking for a double blind tasting where you try to geuss the varietal, price-point, geography, etc. Are you afraid or something?
June 11, 2008

Mike S,
Not quite sure why people were so up in arms about last weeks show. It really wasn’t a big deal at all. I couldn’t come up with three, but would love to see 39281 reviewed sometime.
June 11, 2008

Ryan Graves
Whenever you say “link it up” I never get a link…? Whats the deal Mott…

Thanks guys. Love the show!
June 11, 2008

Chris in Tulsa
GO OFF THE RADAR WITH SOME WEIRD ANCIENT GREEK WHITE VARIETALS PLUS A RETSINA!!!!!!!!!!!
QOTD:Dionysus Thunder Wines!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vatsistas Petroulianaos Peleponnese White 2006 WL code 39934

Emery Rhodes Athiri 2006 WL code 33738

Gaia Ritinitis Nobilis Retsina NV WL code 35368
June 11, 2008

Arthur
Gary, as someone who writes about California’s Central coast, I have to take exception to the categorizing (on your store web site) of Monterey and Santa Barbara County wines as “Other California”. That suggests some sort of marginalization of these prominent and important wine regions as if there were only a few scant vines south of San Francisco.

The Central Coast has as many acres of vines as Napa and Sonoma put together. Furthermore, the regions making up the Cnetral Coast have distinct climates and give very unique wines of high quality.

With respect,

Arthur
June 11, 2008

John D.
Just wanted to say I appreciate the email Gary. I know you’re a busy guy. Big ups to you. Seriously, I think folks need to spend some time going through the archives to see where all this started and get to know you a little better. Great show and nice to see you rockin’ the hizzy in the thunder saddle!

QOTD: “Old world wines that bring the thunder and don’t break the bank”. I have no idea what wines that would be, but I’m really curious and would like to try some someday soon!
June 11, 2008

JR
Port. We need to see more port. Desperately so. How about 2003 Vintage?
Graham 2003 2327
Niepoort 2003 28259
Quinta Do Noval 2003 3271

Get people over the idea that its just an old man’s drink. Also us younger viewers need to get into this stuff now so that when its ready to be drunk were still alive.
June 10, 2008

Roberto
Gary you really rocked today… wow were you on… and yes I did get the 3.00 am email (and immediately replied!! I was up too… 2 hrs less in C Rica) but still. great show…

QOTD: how about a blind tasting to emulate the Paris tasting of 76? calif. chard vs burgundy… waddaya say?
June 10, 2008

Moselman
Aw, shucks, we’re really going to be missing George F. He really had you nailed ;>)

Got any ehrenfelser in stock? How about some grillo? Round it out with a soave.

Happy quaffing!
June 10, 2008

Mike F
Gary, I am a HUGEEEEE Lurker, first time posting. I would love to see an Amarone Tasting. Library Codes 36357, 35691, and maybe even a surprise curveball 39237. Just a thought…. Keep up the great work!!!!
June 10, 2008

Aaron S.
GREAT Question of the Day!!!! P.S. 13 is my lucky number!

QOTD:

Title: Kosher Thunder, or The Episode To End All Doubts About Kosher Wine!

Wines:

1. Kadesh Barnea Gilad 2005 – Library Code 31161
Petit Verdot, Merlot, and Shiraz/Syrahâ€¦ and we all know how much you love P.V.!
2. Domaine Du Castel 2005 – Library Code 37867
Iâ€™m pretty sure this is Cab (Sauvignon), Merlot, and Petit Verdot. I think you did the â€˜03 vintage a while back?
3. Jonathan Tishbi Sde Boker Special Reserve 2004 – Library Code 39916
Obviously from page 196 of â€œ101 Winesâ€; can I get a â€œlink it upâ€? Cab, Merlot, and Cabernet Franc.

Presumably this would go along with a little diatribe a la GV about the history of kosher wine, why it gets a bad rap (cough cough Manischewitz cough cough; not that I donâ€™t appreciate the tradition it represents, but letâ€™s be honestâ€¦ use of the Concord grape has given kosher wine horrible street cred), and why kosher wine coming out of Israel (and Napa; I did see Fridayâ€™s Covenant episode) is turning out to be so good (e.g. winemakers trained at places like UC Davis (Yair Margalit) and with experience from quality California, Australian, etc. wineries (such as Golan Tishbi and Victor Schoenfeld). Maybe a little something about Daniel Rogov? A Gary V. trip to Israeli boutique wineries? Who knows?

Anyways, that is my show idea for tomorrow. Thanks! Oh, and by the way, I think what you did with yesterdayâ€™s show (giving the full and clear explanation of what happened in episode 477) was definitely the right thing to do. That said, Iâ€™m going to go watch â€œThe Lost Episodeâ€ now! All the best!

P.S. Sorry if this comes across as a double post; I think the links made me go to moderation… so I just went with the Library Codes.
June 10, 2008

BW
Ooops … only 3 wines …. listed 5 above – pick 3 of the 5
June 10, 2008

Adam J
Gotta love the thunder!
Qotd: I am expecting my first little one around Newyears so I am curious about some bubbly!!

1)Jacquart Brut Mosaique 1998- 3072
2)Pierre Peters Cuvee Speciale Blanc de Blanc 1999- 9709
3)Legras Brut Champagne Blanc de Blanc- 36865

Thanks for the show!
June 10, 2008

BW
QOTD : My wife & I just got back from a trip to Spain, including several days in Rioja. Tasted / drank a bunch of wines. Here is a list of what I would say are good QPR’s – we tasted / drank all of these & have our notes . Would love to hear your take on them & I think the QPR driven Vayner nation would also enjoy your take :

1) Predicador – library # 37927
2) El Puntido – library # 30676
3) San Vicente – library # 38752
4) Finca Allende – library # 34015
5) Muga Reserva Seleccion Especial – library # 32639
June 10, 2008

David Harris
I like Omallley’s Madeira show idea.

I wanted to see a show on Vin Jaune, but you only have two in stock.
June 10, 2008

Aaron S.
GREAT Question of the Day!!!! P.S. 13 is my lucky number!

QOTD:

Title: Kosher Thunder, or The Episode To End All Doubts About Kosher Wine!

Wines:

1. Kadesh Barnea Gilad 2005 – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=31161
Petit Verdot, Merlot, and Shiraz/Syrah… and we all know how much you love P.V.!
2. Domaine Du Castel 2005 – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37867
I’m pretty sure this is Cab (Sauvignon), Merlot, and Petit Verdot. I think you did the ‘03 vintage a while back?
3. Jonathan Tishbi Sde Boker Special Reserve 2004 – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39916
Obviously from page 196 of “101 Wines”; can I get a “link it up”? Cab, Merlot, and Cabernet Franc.

Presumably this would go along with a little diatribe a la GV about the history of kosher wine, why it gets a bad rap (cough cough Manischewitz cough cough; not that I don’t appreciate the tradition it represents, but let’s be honest… use of the Concord grape has given kosher wine horrible street cred), and why kosher wine coming out of Israel (and Napa; I did see Friday’s Covenant episode) is turning out to be so good (e.g. winemakers trained at places like UC Davis (Yair Margalit) and with experience from quality California, Australian, etc. wineries (such as Golan Tishbi and Victor Schoenfeld). Maybe a little something about Daniel Rogov? A Gary V. trip to Israeli boutique wineries? Who knows?

Anyways, that is my show idea for tomorrow. Thanks! Oh, and by the way, I think what you did with yesterday’s show (giving the full and clear explanation of what happened in episode 477) was definitely the right thing to do. That said, I’m going to go watch “The Lost Episode” now! All the best!
June 10, 2008

torquey
QOTD:

Go Big or Stay Home – Library Codes 29475, 15117, 15571

or

Garagiste-palooza: – Library Codes 13101, 12067, 39083
June 10, 2008

Little Jonny H
GV, I think the peeps are blew things up way too much regarding last weeks 10 dollar cab episode…. they just need to lighten up a bit. It’s not like this is the 6 o’clock news or something and the episode caused a riot! We’re talking about wine, people!

QOTD: Too many choices for me to decide… maybe a mooch money muscat show (cheap muscats)! There are many variations on this grape, and I’d love to learn about the the versatility of this varietal. Some do dry wines, some do super-concentrated dessert wines (also old and new world)! 39817, 39817, & 17360 would fit the bill!
June 10, 2008

SteveW
QOTD:
Three Merlots from around the World:
1) http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39219
2) http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39488
3) http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=38715
June 10, 2008

Tommy Vernieri
Great show Gary, it’s good to have you back doing them “live”. You bring crazy energy everyday. Don’t let people get you down.

QOTD: That’s a tough one, how do you manage to pick wines for each show?
I’ve been filling out my wishlist with cheap wines, lets see you take them on. Do you think anything will bring it?

Cheap, Cheap Pink Wines, Any Thunder To Be Found?

Moncao Danaide Vinho Verde Red 2007, $5 – 34026
Vinho Verde. Pink? What?

Jean Luc Colombo Cote Bleue Rose 2006, $6 – 33924
The importer says “intriguing notes of raspberry, cherry and black olive.” I’m intrigued.

Montaud Rose Cotes De Provence 2007, $7 – 39547
What do you have to say about Provonce rose? I don’t know anything about it, but I feel like I should.
June 10, 2008

Scott
Gary, thanks for emailing me at 1:30 a.m.. Your a good man.
June 10, 2008

Dominus
I need to see the episode that is causing all the ruckus. I can’t believe I missed but I know one thing, you are always on the up-and-up.

QOTD:

Alpha Omega Prop Red
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37339

Bucklin Zin
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39385

and of course

Dominus 2004
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=32987

Be cool.

Cheers
June 10, 2008

amgryger
QOTD: How about a proper “Vacqueyras Taste-Off.” WLTV search suggests you’ve only done 2 bottles of Vacqueyras and both were back in 2006. Here are 3 covering low, middle, and high price points.

http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39064
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=9689
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39032
June 10, 2008

Len
QOTD: Anything will do…just bring the thunder Gary…and do your thing! Love your show…keep it up. Maybe do the staff’s picks or any wine on your top 10 list.
June 10, 2008

JonE
Can’t say I didn’t have high hopes for the CORE. But there’s nothing worse than a hollow mid palate, nothing to hold onto.

QOTD:As Paula Abdul once said “opposites attract”

http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36486

http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=5352

http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=33921