EP 111 Wine Glasses, How Do They Affect Wine?

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Today Gary tackles a very important topic that many people discuss and debate at a fever pitch in the wine industry. Gary grabs two great wines and attacks this subjuct head first, please join in the discussion and let us know what you think. Also this is tell your friends thursday. Pass the WLTV word around!

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John Mielke

Is he F’n drunk at at the end?? Humbled at the difference, but the glasses absolutely make no difference in the wine???

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  • Dan G.

    Gary, Super show. One of my favorites. Very Edumacational like the decanting episode. Like a few others have said before me; theres no way Im going out and buying 8 different set of stemware (have better things to spend money on). One or two do just fine by me. Have to score this one a 98.

    Whats up with the comment. I used to like the Yankees till they won the World Series. Which of the 26 are you talking about. Thats assinine! Does that mean since the Jets have actually won one a loooong time ago you’re going to dump them too?

  • E

    Who’s that hiding in the decanters? David Letterman? Andy Dufresne?

    Not only does free shipping rock, by the way, but halfway across the country by Thursday? Land speed record.

    Sam – I don’t know if they still make them, but the entry-level Riedel Ouvertures aren’t a bad deal; the generic red and white are nice if a little on the small side, and the magnum does pretty good all-purpose work (in fact, I think it’s the WLTV weapon of choice most days).

  • E

    Who’s that hiding in the decanters? David Letterman? Andy Dufresne?

    Not only does free shipping rock, by the way, but halfway across the country by Thursday? Land speed record.

    Sam – I don’t know if they still make them, but the entry-level Riedel Ouvertures aren’t a bad deal; the generic red and white are nice if a little on the small side, and the magnum does pretty good all-purpose work (in fact, I think it’s the WLTV weapon of choice most days).

  • E

    By the way: those large flour-sack towels are perfect for drying glasses off, especially if you have really hard water like we do. Lose the fabric softener when you’re washing them, though …

  • E

    By the way: those large flour-sack towels are perfect for drying glasses off, especially if you have really hard water like we do. Lose the fabric softener when you’re washing them, though …

  • Susan

    Karen,
    I am sure there is a real difference not just perceived.
    I have been to wine tastings and had wine out of proper wine glasses.
    I just don’t have much in the bank at the moment.
    I can tell a real difference between what I have at wine tastings and out of my cheap coffee mug.
    It is night and day!
    Really!

  • Susan

    Karen,
    I am sure there is a real difference not just perceived.
    I have been to wine tastings and had wine out of proper wine glasses.
    I just don’t have much in the bank at the moment.
    I can tell a real difference between what I have at wine tastings and out of my cheap coffee mug.
    It is night and day!
    Really!

  • SS Chris

    E, That is the Dwignt Bobblehead hiding within the Decanters.

    Dwight…the character for the NBC show, “The Office”

    BTW, that’s a gift from me…..

  • SS Chris

    E, That is the Dwignt Bobblehead hiding within the Decanters.

    Dwight…the character for the NBC show, “The Office”

    BTW, that’s a gift from me…..

  • SS Chris

    METS lose…I’m officially in mourning!

    I’ll be gone for at least a month…someone will need to take over SS duties.

  • SS Chris

    METS lose…I’m officially in mourning!

    I’ll be gone for at least a month…someone will need to take over SS duties.

  • JustinL

    Come on, Gary. Are you joking through the whole episode, or are you joking at the end? I am assuming that you were just testing to see how many people were paying attention at the end of the episode, but I’m not sure.

  • JustinL

    Come on, Gary. Are you joking through the whole episode, or are you joking at the end? I am assuming that you were just testing to see how many people were paying attention at the end of the episode, but I’m not sure.

  • He was most definitely kidding at the end…I Gaurantee it!

  • He was most definitely kidding at the end…I Gaurantee it!

  • Right now I am tasting / evaluating the Reserve Perrin Cotes Du Rhone from episode #101.

    My thoughts are this:
    Without a doubt I feel the alchohol all over the mouth. It is drying out my tounge after five or six sip swish spits (say that 10 times fast). I have not mastered the taste of currant yet so I don’t know if that’s there at all, and there is a tiny bit of cherry on the mid-palette, but not enough to make you happy. Man…it feels like I just did a shot of tequila write on the back of my tongue…yuck. There’s absolutly no finish…except the achohol which is lasting a good 4 to 5 minutes.

    Here’s my suggestion…the next time a free shipping code comes along buy a six to eight dollar bottle of wine that Gary has given a PASS on. I did this on purpose with this 84 minus rated wine from Gary. Just buy one bottle and then taste it along side the episode. You NEED to do this if you are a novice to somewhat experienced wine drinker. When you taste the good stuff with Gary it’s all pleasant and there are no rough edges, so how will you know what to taste or smell for when they come along. I believe if you are trying to better your palette, then this is a must in your evolution as an educated wine consumer.

    SS Chris…sorry that you won’t be taking your sons to the WS, but at least you enjoyed more playoffs than I did. Great Great Baseball season, no matter what happens!

  • Right now I am tasting / evaluating the Reserve Perrin Cotes Du Rhone from episode #101.

    My thoughts are this:
    Without a doubt I feel the alchohol all over the mouth. It is drying out my tounge after five or six sip swish spits (say that 10 times fast). I have not mastered the taste of currant yet so I don’t know if that’s there at all, and there is a tiny bit of cherry on the mid-palette, but not enough to make you happy. Man…it feels like I just did a shot of tequila write on the back of my tongue…yuck. There’s absolutly no finish…except the achohol which is lasting a good 4 to 5 minutes.

    Here’s my suggestion…the next time a free shipping code comes along buy a six to eight dollar bottle of wine that Gary has given a PASS on. I did this on purpose with this 84 minus rated wine from Gary. Just buy one bottle and then taste it along side the episode. You NEED to do this if you are a novice to somewhat experienced wine drinker. When you taste the good stuff with Gary it’s all pleasant and there are no rough edges, so how will you know what to taste or smell for when they come along. I believe if you are trying to better your palette, then this is a must in your evolution as an educated wine consumer.

    SS Chris…sorry that you won’t be taking your sons to the WS, but at least you enjoyed more playoffs than I did. Great Great Baseball season, no matter what happens!

  • JustinL

    Yes, Gary confirmed via email that he was kidding at the end.

  • JustinL

    Yes, Gary confirmed via email that he was kidding at the end.

  • RCP

    Gary

    Super episode!! I think you’ve finally ended all debate on the matter. Your teeth/mouth were the same color as your shirt by the end.

  • RCP

    Gary

    Super episode!! I think you’ve finally ended all debate on the matter. Your teeth/mouth were the same color as your shirt by the end.

  • Gary…I’m in a bind and need some help. Can you call me and give the never ending free shipping code.
    Thanks…your the man!

    B

  • Gary…I’m in a bind and need some help. Can you call me and give the never ending free shipping code.
    Thanks…your the man!

    B

  • Jim Vandegriff

    Good educational experience in this episode. Thanks Gary. A question for you, and a suggestion follow. When driving back home from Sacramento today, I backtracked a bit to taste at the Jeriko estate winery near Hopland in Mendocino County. Jeriko is owned by the Fetzer family (who don’t own the winery with their name any longer, I believe). They are using solely organic grapes in their new winery, and since I had to drive, I decided to spit out everything I tasted. There were small ceramic dump jars (quite attractive) on the tasting counter, so I used one to spit into. Of course, I did manage to get some wine on my shirt despite being careful, so my request is that you gross everyone out, and specifically show us your swirl in mouth and spit technique. That may be too graphic for wltv, but I think it would be useful. The suggestion I have is for an episode on organic wines. You could have one of the organic wine producers talk about the reasons for organic in their minds, and maybe even one of the biodynamic grapegrowers talk (to us or to you) about their process. I did enjoy a number of the Jeriko wines. Thanks, Jim

  • Jim Vandegriff

    Good educational experience in this episode. Thanks Gary. A question for you, and a suggestion follow. When driving back home from Sacramento today, I backtracked a bit to taste at the Jeriko estate winery near Hopland in Mendocino County. Jeriko is owned by the Fetzer family (who don’t own the winery with their name any longer, I believe). They are using solely organic grapes in their new winery, and since I had to drive, I decided to spit out everything I tasted. There were small ceramic dump jars (quite attractive) on the tasting counter, so I used one to spit into. Of course, I did manage to get some wine on my shirt despite being careful, so my request is that you gross everyone out, and specifically show us your swirl in mouth and spit technique. That may be too graphic for wltv, but I think it would be useful. The suggestion I have is for an episode on organic wines. You could have one of the organic wine producers talk about the reasons for organic in their minds, and maybe even one of the biodynamic grapegrowers talk (to us or to you) about their process. I did enjoy a number of the Jeriko wines. Thanks, Jim

  • Darlene O.

    I kind of fast-forwarded here and didn’t read all the comments, but am I the ONLY one who watched the episode all the way through? Did I here you correctly, Gary, that, after going through the gyrations of ‘this is different…that is different’, you say, at the very end that different wine glasses ‘ABSOLUTELY DO NOT’ have an impact on the taste of wine? Just the nose, then? What?!?!?!?

  • Darlene O.

    I kind of fast-forwarded here and didn’t read all the comments, but am I the ONLY one who watched the episode all the way through? Did I here you correctly, Gary, that, after going through the gyrations of ‘this is different…that is different’, you say, at the very end that different wine glasses ‘ABSOLUTELY DO NOT’ have an impact on the taste of wine? Just the nose, then? What?!?!?!?

  • Jim Vandegriff…All you have to do is go home and practice. It just takes some doing. I have a Goatee, so it took me quite a few times spitting without getting all over the goat. But once you get it, you’ll realize your a spitting pro and spit with the best of them.

    B

  • Jim Vandegriff…All you have to do is go home and practice. It just takes some doing. I have a Goatee, so it took me quite a few times spitting without getting all over the goat. But once you get it, you’ll realize your a spitting pro and spit with the best of them.

    B

  • Dan G.

    I caught the Absolutely not as well. He had to be joking; especially after all that tasting.

  • Dan G.

    I caught the Absolutely not as well. He had to be joking; especially after all that tasting.

  • Matty Van, Rochester NY

    Obviously the nose will be differnt in a differnt glass, different air to aroma ratio, but the taste after the split second it hits your mouth your mouth will be just as full no matter what shape the glass is and it should taste the same, only difference is where the first drops hit your tounge. I think drinking out of a super expensive nice glass might just make you think it taste better due to a placebo effect and the good feeling of knowing your holding a $100 glass

    for an all purpose red wine glass and the most bang for the buck here is what I have and recomend…

    Riedel Vivant Pinot Noir Glasses – Set of 4 $39.99

    http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/ref=in_de_detail-buybox-with-variations/602-7040357-5207010?ie=UTF8&frombrowse=&asin=B000B5R05C

    they are super thin which is good but if you just knock one over on the counter it will break, but at $10 a glass its no big deal, but if I had Riedel Sommeliers at $75 per glass I would be pissed, especially if someone else broke one. I would rather save $240 on the set and buy a case of wine.

  • Matty Van, Rochester NY

    Obviously the nose will be differnt in a differnt glass, different air to aroma ratio, but the taste after the split second it hits your mouth your mouth will be just as full no matter what shape the glass is and it should taste the same, only difference is where the first drops hit your tounge. I think drinking out of a super expensive nice glass might just make you think it taste better due to a placebo effect and the good feeling of knowing your holding a $100 glass

    for an all purpose red wine glass and the most bang for the buck here is what I have and recomend…

    Riedel Vivant Pinot Noir Glasses – Set of 4 $39.99

    http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/ref=in_de_detail-buybox-with-variations/602-7040357-5207010?ie=UTF8&frombrowse=&asin=B000B5R05C

    they are super thin which is good but if you just knock one over on the counter it will break, but at $10 a glass its no big deal, but if I had Riedel Sommeliers at $75 per glass I would be pissed, especially if someone else broke one. I would rather save $240 on the set and buy a case of wine.

  • Thank You, Thank you, now when I look at a wall of wine glasses, I can say what it is.
    Thanks Gary.
    http://www.thewineglass.net

  • Thank You, Thank you, now when I look at a wall of wine glasses, I can say what it is.
    Thanks Gary.
    http://www.thewineglass.net

  • TimF

    Jim Vandegriff: Like Brandon M said, just practice at home. Pour yourself a glass of water and spit into the sink. After a few sessions you’ll have all the confidence in the world at a tasting…

  • TimF

    Jim Vandegriff: Like Brandon M said, just practice at home. Pour yourself a glass of water and spit into the sink. After a few sessions you’ll have all the confidence in the world at a tasting…

  • TimF

    Has anyone tried the Trevor Jones Old Tawny Port Jonesy? Looks like they got some more in. That’s got to be about the highest QPR I’ve ever seen: 93RP for $8!

  • TimF

    Has anyone tried the Trevor Jones Old Tawny Port Jonesy? Looks like they got some more in. That’s got to be about the highest QPR I’ve ever seen: 93RP for $8!

  • MarcT

    DarleneO…you’ve got to start reading the comments!!

    Good statement about the low rated wines BrandonM. Though I have not done what you did, I have purposely bought “cheap, crap” wine and tasted it to search for the flavors and flaws that a “bad” wine produce. It is a very educational experience. I recommend it to EVERYONE that wants to learn more about wine…and you never know…one of the “cheap, crap” wines you try might end up being pleasant to your palate as we are all different.

    Oooops to the Mets. SS Chris. Hold your head up. Your guys did WAY better than my Braves! Even with one of my old pitchers (although he doesnâ??t have what he used to).

  • MarcT

    DarleneO…you’ve got to start reading the comments!!

    Good statement about the low rated wines BrandonM. Though I have not done what you did, I have purposely bought “cheap, crap” wine and tasted it to search for the flavors and flaws that a “bad” wine produce. It is a very educational experience. I recommend it to EVERYONE that wants to learn more about wine…and you never know…one of the “cheap, crap” wines you try might end up being pleasant to your palate as we are all different.

    Oooops to the Mets. SS Chris. Hold your head up. Your guys did WAY better than my Braves! Even with one of my old pitchers (although he doesnâ??t have what he used to).

  • Carlitos

    Thanks for a great episode!

    I think we all kind of knew that glasses do affect at least the aroma.

    Free shipping ROCKS! 700+ people! You definitely have to do this more often!!!

  • Carlitos

    Thanks for a great episode!

    I think we all kind of knew that glasses do affect at least the aroma.

    Free shipping ROCKS! 700+ people! You definitely have to do this more often!!!

  • Eugene

    Gary, thank you for really scientific episode. I feel weâ??re getting closer to the kitchen blends now (see my comment to one of the previous episodes).

    About the glasses.

    You have deep misunderstanding and underappreciation of the Chianti/Riesling glass.
    For those just starting getting Riedel glasses: This is the most versatile glass.

    Itâ??s very useful for most reds and whites. I actually use it a lot.

    My second favorite is Bordeaux/Cabernet glass.

    On the daily bases I find myself using â??Oâ? glasses more often even though I am generally against stemless glasses. But they are less fragile and can go in dishwasher.

    Champagne glasses I use, as one can guess for champagne, which I drink less often than y wife wants.

    All of the glasses mentioned above are Vinum. I wouldnâ??t even bother with Somalier since they are very fragile.

    A first piece of advice: Get cheep Ikea glasses (which are quite good considering price $2 a piece and they are sturdy) for large gathering and outdoor events. Uninitiated people think theyâ??re nice and people in the know would understand.

    A second advice: donâ??t wash Riedel on the night of the party (unless you want to shell out $20 a piece next morning to replace broken stems)

  • Eugene

    Gary, thank you for really scientific episode. I feel weâ??re getting closer to the kitchen blends now (see my comment to one of the previous episodes).

    About the glasses.

    You have deep misunderstanding and underappreciation of the Chianti/Riesling glass.
    For those just starting getting Riedel glasses: This is the most versatile glass.

    Itâ??s very useful for most reds and whites. I actually use it a lot.

    My second favorite is Bordeaux/Cabernet glass.

    On the daily bases I find myself using â??Oâ? glasses more often even though I am generally against stemless glasses. But they are less fragile and can go in dishwasher.

    Champagne glasses I use, as one can guess for champagne, which I drink less often than y wife wants.

    All of the glasses mentioned above are Vinum. I wouldnâ??t even bother with Somalier since they are very fragile.

    A first piece of advice: Get cheep Ikea glasses (which are quite good considering price $2 a piece and they are sturdy) for large gathering and outdoor events. Uninitiated people think theyâ??re nice and people in the know would understand.

    A second advice: donâ??t wash Riedel on the night of the party (unless you want to shell out $20 a piece next morning to replace broken stems)

  • Lynne

    OK, all,
    I have not the space nor the funds for different types of glasses for specific types of wines…SO..please, someone recommend the preferred type to buy if a person were to own one style for red and one for white.
    Very educational Ep, Gary

    QOD Part I:not enough experience to answer that one
    QOD Part II: You will NEVER stop loving the Jets…You GOTTA love ’em if you’re gonna own them!!

  • Lynne

    OK, all,
    I have not the space nor the funds for different types of glasses for specific types of wines…SO..please, someone recommend the preferred type to buy if a person were to own one style for red and one for white.
    Very educational Ep, Gary

    QOD Part I:not enough experience to answer that one
    QOD Part II: You will NEVER stop loving the Jets…You GOTTA love ’em if you’re gonna own them!!

  • Where’s my buddy SS Chris….you kick ass and your spreadsheet is absolutely AMAZING!!! So you bought Gary that Dwight Bobblehead doll…..where’d you get the bobblehead??

    -Stallion

  • Where’s my buddy SS Chris….you kick ass and your spreadsheet is absolutely AMAZING!!! So you bought Gary that Dwight Bobblehead doll…..where’d you get the bobblehead??

    -Stallion

  • Miguelo DiMarco

    I played the end of this episode a few extra times to make sure I heard it right, but some of you all heard it too: the big contradiction. Or was it a paradox? Did he want to leave us where we started (unconfirmed) so we would ultimately decide the question for ourselves? I always thought big was big and small was different, but the contours of the glass didn’t matter. Now I have to buy some more glassware. . . .

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