EP 259 Cheap Pinot Noir, Any Good Ones?

Pinot Noir is HOT and everyone is all about it but are there any good ones under ten bones?

Wines tasted in this episode:

Talus Pinot NoirOther California Pinot Noir
Lindemans Pinot Noir Bin 99Australian Pinot Noir
Cavit Pinot NoirTrentino Alto Adige IGT
Barkan Pinot NoirIsraeli Kosher Wine

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Paul Schmitz

This must of been absolute TORTURE for you GaryVee…btw the Can-Am Connection was Tommy Zenk & Rick Martel, not Tito Santana…BROTHER

QOTD: Arbor Mist…if that even counts as a wine…

Tags: Pinot Noir, red wines, review, Video, wine, wines

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  • QOTD – travelling in Europe after high school we bought a bottle of cheap spanish wine in a plastic bottle in the late 70’s. Somehow I forgot the name, vintage, cepage, etc, etc, etc.

  • vivaitalia

    I don’t think it’s the price that doomed those wines but the fact that those were the grocery store over produced brands that you can find all over the country. I can’t even imagine the production numbers. The really good cheap wines i’ve had were usually from countries that aren’t big in the wine world like hungary and austria. Spain though by far has the best qpr wines (even in the 5-7 dollar range!) that i’ve had. Maybe an episode on what you know are high quality $5 wines sometime in the future? QOTD Cribari chianti (the kind that comes in a giant jug and you find at truck stop cafe’s and such) And this burgandy that’s from one of the generic cali super brands I can’t remember. I’ve been getting alot of corked wines lately.

  • yowens44

    Never really been into Pinot and this episode doesnt help. QOTD: Honestly, and I hope he’s not watching- my friends Cab/merlot blend he’s making in his basement I tried this weekend. Horrible. Smelled like bleach + fungus.

  • yowens44

    Never really been into Pinot and this episode doesnt help. QOTD: Honestly, and I hope he’s not watching- my friends Cab/merlot blend he’s making in his basement I tried this weekend. Horrible. Smelled like bleach + fungus.

  • MikeBro

    Oh Yuck on the Pinots today!

    QOTD: Under 10 bones would have to be any boxed wine, they are all pretty bad. Did have some Boons Farm long ago that made sick. That would have to be the worst under 5 bones.

    Gary, lets do some 15 to 20 dollar Pinots. Oh wait you probably already have, I’ll check some past eps.

    Thanks,

    MB

  • MikeBro

    Oh Yuck on the Pinots today!

    QOTD: Under 10 bones would have to be any boxed wine, they are all pretty bad. Did have some Boons Farm long ago that made sick. That would have to be the worst under 5 bones.

    Gary, lets do some 15 to 20 dollar Pinots. Oh wait you probably already have, I’ll check some past eps.

    Thanks,

    MB

  • ChadD.

    I agree with Tim above: got to be the TJCS Beaujolais-stangest wine ever. But now that I think about it…my family and friends keep giving me “wine” from several local “wineries” from back home (Southern IL). They ALL taste like cheap kroger brand grape juice mixed with cheap vodka.

  • ChadD.

    I agree with Tim above: got to be the TJCS Beaujolais-stangest wine ever. But now that I think about it…my family and friends keep giving me “wine” from several local “wineries” from back home (Southern IL). They ALL taste like cheap kroger brand grape juice mixed with cheap vodka.

  • Kraemer

    A decent, sup 10.00 dollar bottle of Pinot? I think they don’t exist. It’s way too expensive for a winery to produce a cheap, quality, $10.00 dollar bottle of Pinot Noir simply due to the delicate nature of the grape and all of the care involved. It’s expensive.

    Sorry about your luck today, Gary. I had a similar experience last night.

    QOTD: Oh jesus, I wish I still had the bottle as I don’t remember the name of it. It was a 2001 Napa Valley Pinot Noir of some sort and I had decent expectations for it due to the vintage, but was sadly dissappointed. The nose was dull and lifeless and the chasiss was overcome by prominent grapefruit flavors. Overall it was completely unbalanced and shallow.

  • Kraemer

    A decent, sup 10.00 dollar bottle of Pinot? I think they don’t exist. It’s way too expensive for a winery to produce a cheap, quality, $10.00 dollar bottle of Pinot Noir simply due to the delicate nature of the grape and all of the care involved. It’s expensive.

    Sorry about your luck today, Gary. I had a similar experience last night.

    QOTD: Oh jesus, I wish I still had the bottle as I don’t remember the name of it. It was a 2001 Napa Valley Pinot Noir of some sort and I had decent expectations for it due to the vintage, but was sadly dissappointed. The nose was dull and lifeless and the chasiss was overcome by prominent grapefruit flavors. Overall it was completely unbalanced and shallow.

  • Autoproxy

    For a good Pinot value, I’d suggest Beringer Founder’s Estate. Has to be better than what you tried today. You guys sell it for $8.34, and it’s the only varietal in that series that I like.

    QOTD – probably too many to list. The *worst* though? Maybe any/all CA Sauvignon Blancs that I’ve tried…just not the right terroir. Or poor efforts from producers, who knows.

  • Autoproxy

    For a good Pinot value, I’d suggest Beringer Founder’s Estate. Has to be better than what you tried today. You guys sell it for $8.34, and it’s the only varietal in that series that I like.

    QOTD – probably too many to list. The *worst* though? Maybe any/all CA Sauvignon Blancs that I’ve tried…just not the right terroir. Or poor efforts from producers, who knows.

  • Russ J

    Who didn’t see this coming from a MILE away? I’ve had the Cavit and, I think, the Lindemans. Just awful…..but not the answer to the QOTD (also asked some time ago in the Forum) which was Corbett Canyon Merlot, under $10 in the magnum and WAY overpriced. And I drank several glasses of this crap. Why? Because there clearly is something wrong with me, and it was a party and that’s all that there was. It was a nightmare in the canyon…canyon…canyon….Next time, I’m hitting the Arbor Mist!

  • Glazer

    QOTD= The worst under $10 Pinot has to be Lindemans. I describe the taste as, if you decided to go out and run 10 miles on a hot summer day holding a handful of pennies, and then at the end you stopped and dropped the pennies and then decided to lick your hand, that’s wahat it tasted like. :

  • Russ J

    Who didn’t see this coming from a MILE away? I’ve had the Cavit and, I think, the Lindemans. Just awful…..but not the answer to the QOTD (also asked some time ago in the Forum) which was Corbett Canyon Merlot, under $10 in the magnum and WAY overpriced. And I drank several glasses of this crap. Why? Because there clearly is something wrong with me, and it was a party and that’s all that there was. It was a nightmare in the canyon…canyon…canyon….Next time, I’m hitting the Arbor Mist!

  • Glazer

    QOTD= The worst under $10 Pinot has to be Lindemans. I describe the taste as, if you decided to go out and run 10 miles on a hot summer day holding a handful of pennies, and then at the end you stopped and dropped the pennies and then decided to lick your hand, that’s wahat it tasted like. :

  • Tommy Vernieri

    I have the Pepperwood Grove Pinot Noir (from France), now I’m interested to see how bad it is after making this “worst list” twice. My worst wine was just this week, White Lie Early Season Chardonnay. It was marketed as low calorie wine for women; tasted like funky water. The whole bottle got dumped.

  • Tommy Vernieri

    I have the Pepperwood Grove Pinot Noir (from France), now I’m interested to see how bad it is after making this “worst list” twice. My worst wine was just this week, White Lie Early Season Chardonnay. It was marketed as low calorie wine for women; tasted like funky water. The whole bottle got dumped.

  • Definitely a tough price point to find sound pinot noir in…a grape that fairs remarkably poorly at high yields (considering it’s already a low yielding grape w/ little vigor), unlike cabernet. Having said that, the bottles you chose are fowl! How about a little Bogle or Echelon in the house? Represent w/ some decent producers! Cavit?! Might as well bring back the Charles Shaw w/ some Bolla on the side!

  • Definitely a tough price point to find sound pinot noir in…a grape that fairs remarkably poorly at high yields (considering it’s already a low yielding grape w/ little vigor), unlike cabernet. Having said that, the bottles you chose are fowl! How about a little Bogle or Echelon in the house? Represent w/ some decent producers! Cavit?! Might as well bring back the Charles Shaw w/ some Bolla on the side!

  • JonE

    Balls out G-Man to take the chance. Well done.

    QOTD: without a doubt anything from Fox Hollow.

  • JonE

    Balls out G-Man to take the chance. Well done.

    QOTD: without a doubt anything from Fox Hollow.

  • Sean

    the wine was called Pinot Evil…..and it was….

  • Robin

    Nice shirt.
    QOTD: My worst $10.00 bottle of wine: I’m not sure how much these wines cost, but a friend and I took a tour of New Mexico wineries in our area – up to Santa Fe and Taos – and this is the only time it’s happened to me – I took a sip of the wine in the first winery and realized that this liquid should not be swallowed, it was so incredibly awful,and my friend was doing the same thing-looking around for a place to get rid of the wine. I think we finally swallowed it, but were very careful from then on.
    I don’t understand what the problem is. The winemakers were so nice, and some of them had even studied at the University of Davis. But they didn’t even seem to realize that the wine was swill. The other people in our group were actually purchasing some of the wine. It was eerie.
    That being said, Gruet (Albuquerque) champagne (he purchases his grape) makes good stuff, and Casa Rondena does reasonably well. Nothing under $10.00 though.

  • Sean

    the wine was called Pinot Evil…..and it was….

  • Robin

    Nice shirt.
    QOTD: My worst $10.00 bottle of wine: I’m not sure how much these wines cost, but a friend and I took a tour of New Mexico wineries in our area – up to Santa Fe and Taos – and this is the only time it’s happened to me – I took a sip of the wine in the first winery and realized that this liquid should not be swallowed, it was so incredibly awful,and my friend was doing the same thing-looking around for a place to get rid of the wine. I think we finally swallowed it, but were very careful from then on.
    I don’t understand what the problem is. The winemakers were so nice, and some of them had even studied at the University of Davis. But they didn’t even seem to realize that the wine was swill. The other people in our group were actually purchasing some of the wine. It was eerie.
    That being said, Gruet (Albuquerque) champagne (he purchases his grape) makes good stuff, and Casa Rondena does reasonably well. Nothing under $10.00 though.

  • Were you cursed on this show or what? Better luck tomorrow.

    QOTD: Mother-in-law cracked open a bottle of Grandpa’s cherry wine once. Tasted like vinegar but I couldn’t convince her it wasn’t good.

  • Were you cursed on this show or what? Better luck tomorrow.

    QOTD: Mother-in-law cracked open a bottle of Grandpa’s cherry wine once. Tasted like vinegar but I couldn’t convince her it wasn’t good.

  • Douche

    Decent, cheap Pinot does exist, I’ve had several great examples of it over here in the UK, all of it from Chile. No other country seems to able to compete with Chile in this price range for Pinot. Quite how they are doing it must be a mystery to the rest of the winemaking world, eh?

  • Douche

    Decent, cheap Pinot does exist, I’ve had several great examples of it over here in the UK, all of it from Chile. No other country seems to able to compete with Chile in this price range for Pinot. Quite how they are doing it must be a mystery to the rest of the winemaking world, eh?

  • Badger Ann

    QOTD: Hands down, it was Yellow Tail Merlot. I drank it on a dare.

  • Badger Ann

    QOTD: Hands down, it was Yellow Tail Merlot. I drank it on a dare.

  • RIck K

    Wow, I was really excited when I saw the title today. I have been on a search for a $10 bottle of Pinot to drink daily. Hope you can redo this episode and find a few. We are counting you. You need to test that 4th bottle tomorrow by the way. We are waiting on pins and needles.

  • Greg B.

    WOW, I don’t know Big G. Did you really think you might find a gem in that Locker Room? No frigin way.
    I bet you could with Shiraz, but not Pinot.
    QOTD Leaving Cork’d Wine and the Like out. I would have to say a few bottles that I got from Trader Joes were god-awful. One Chilean and the other a French nightmare.
    Keep seeking out the deals for us G. I don’t think I can stomach doing it myself.

  • Wow, I was really excited when I saw the title today. I have been on a search for a $10 bottle of Pinot to drink daily. Hope you can redo this episode and find a few. We are counting you. You need to test that 4th bottle tomorrow by the way. We are waiting on pins and needles.

  • Greg B.

    WOW, I don’t know Big G. Did you really think you might find a gem in that Locker Room? No frigin way.
    I bet you could with Shiraz, but not Pinot.
    QOTD Leaving Cork’d Wine and the Like out. I would have to say a few bottles that I got from Trader Joes were god-awful. One Chilean and the other a French nightmare.
    Keep seeking out the deals for us G. I don’t think I can stomach doing it myself.

  • RIck K

    Wow, I was really excited when I saw the title today. I have been on a search for a $10 bottle of Pinot to drink daily. Hope you can redo this episode and find a few. We are counting you. You need to test that 4th bottle tomorrow by the way. We are waiting on pins and needles. QTD Citra Montepulciano 2000 $3 a bottle

  • Wow, I was really excited when I saw the title today. I have been on a search for a $10 bottle of Pinot to drink daily. Hope you can redo this episode and find a few. We are counting you. You need to test that 4th bottle tomorrow by the way. We are waiting on pins and needles. QTD Citra Montepulciano 2000 $3 a bottle

  • BCWinesAreIn

    QOTD: It would have to be the Naked Grape Shiraz. You’d think anyone could make a good Shiraz, right? here’s an example of one that doesn’t. Horrid stuff. They sell if for less than $10 Canadian here in Vancouver.

  • BCWinesAreIn

    QOTD: It would have to be the Naked Grape Shiraz. You’d think anyone could make a good Shiraz, right? here’s an example of one that doesn’t. Horrid stuff. They sell if for less than $10 Canadian here in Vancouver.

  • Winodontist

    Franzia out of a box, ummm delicioso!

    Everything I like in Pinot Noir is $25+

  • Winodontist

    Franzia out of a box, ummm delicioso!

    Everything I like in Pinot Noir is $25+

  • 1st corked bottle ive seen on wltv so far…..any others i missed?

  • 1st corked bottle ive seen on wltv so far…..any others i missed?

  • Man, this and the Two Buck Chuck episode. Go pour yourself some awesome wine tonight and give your palate some lovin’.

    Sweet that you had Stardust playing in the background. That takes me back to Winter ’99 in Munich, Germany, where I worked from January through April and saw just how bleak Europe gets in the depths of winter.

    QOD: Honestly, seriously, I don’t buy wine under $10. Not ever. But I will tell you that for $11 (at least in Glen Ellen), I can get a Coteaux du Languedoc (organic grapes) that ROCKS.

  • Man, this and the Two Buck Chuck episode. Go pour yourself some awesome wine tonight and give your palate some lovin’.

    Sweet that you had Stardust playing in the background. That takes me back to Winter ’99 in Munich, Germany, where I worked from January through April and saw just how bleak Europe gets in the depths of winter.

    QOD: Honestly, seriously, I don’t buy wine under $10. Not ever. But I will tell you that for $11 (at least in Glen Ellen), I can get a Coteaux du Languedoc (organic grapes) that ROCKS.

  • RonC

    Would have liked to see you include the Agustinos Pinot Noir Reserve 2006 ($9.99) that you sold with free shipping a few weeks ago in your selection.

    QOTD: There’s a three way tie for the worst $10 and under bottle of wine I ever tasted;
    Two Buck Chuck Cabernet Sauvignon
    2005 Bon Vivant Vineyards Gala Rouge Pinot Noir
    2005 Little Penguin Pinot Noir

    Taks a couple of Rolaids and forget about this episode.

  • nasty nate

    Best bargin Pinot is Les Jamelles 88 Points Wine Enthusiast. Little Vin de pays producer that brings it for around 9-12 depending on where you get it.

  • RonC

    Would have liked to see you include the Agustinos Pinot Noir Reserve 2006 ($9.99) that you sold with free shipping a few weeks ago in your selection.

    QOTD: There’s a three way tie for the worst $10 and under bottle of wine I ever tasted;
    Two Buck Chuck Cabernet Sauvignon
    2005 Bon Vivant Vineyards Gala Rouge Pinot Noir
    2005 Little Penguin Pinot Noir

    Taks a couple of Rolaids and forget about this episode.

  • nasty nate

    Best bargin Pinot is Les Jamelles 88 Points Wine Enthusiast. Little Vin de pays producer that brings it for around 9-12 depending on where you get it.

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