EP 259 Cheap Pinot Noir, Any Good Ones?

Pinot Noir is HOT and everyone is all about it but are there any good ones under ten bones?

Wines tasted in this episode:

Talus Pinot NoirOther California Pinot Noir
Lindemans Pinot Noir Bin 99Australian Pinot Noir
Cavit Pinot NoirTrentino Alto Adige IGT
Barkan Pinot NoirIsraeli Kosher Wine

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Paul Schmitz

This must of been absolute TORTURE for you GaryVee…btw the Can-Am Connection was Tommy Zenk & Rick Martel, not Tito Santana…BROTHER

QOTD: Arbor Mist…if that even counts as a wine…

Tags: Pinot Noir, red wines, review, Video, wine, wines

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  • Tough ep Gary. Surprised that you didn’t get a bottle to rinse your palate … .
    QOTD: A Barbera d’Asti of Capetta. Tasted like wet cardboard with pigeon droppings and charred Brussels sprouts. Horrible …

  • Tough ep Gary. Surprised that you didn’t get a bottle to rinse your palate … .
    QOTD: A Barbera d’Asti of Capetta. Tasted like wet cardboard with pigeon droppings and charred Brussels sprouts. Horrible …

  • Cheap Pinot Noir is like the movie that inspired the PN Trend unimpressive.

  • Cheap Pinot Noir is like the movie that inspired the PN Trend unimpressive.

  • dadobs

    What an ep, GV–like watching a three Yugo pile-up on I-80.

    QOTD: Forest Glen merlot was pretty bad and reminded me of spoiled seaweed. OEven better: dandilion “wine” from the Amana Colony Iowa winery. We all burped up flowers for three damn days. Scarred me and my intestines for life.

  • dadobs

    What an ep, GV–like watching a three Yugo pile-up on I-80.

    QOTD: Forest Glen merlot was pretty bad and reminded me of spoiled seaweed. OEven better: dandilion “wine” from the Amana Colony Iowa winery. We all burped up flowers for three damn days. Scarred me and my intestines for life.

  • DryDrew

    ….. What a nightmare!

    (Hay that last bottle dos not count Gary! And dos not solve “THIS” issue)

  • DryDrew

    ….. What a nightmare!

    (Hay that last bottle dos not count Gary! And dos not solve “THIS” issue)

  • GottaGoDrink

    Gary- No surprises in this episode. I am still looking for any pinot from CA that I like. I haven’t given up, but…

    QOTD- Former life- MD 20/20, although it delivered a huge alcohol hit. Current life- 2001 Buckeley’s Shiraz, indescribably terrible and an RP89.

  • GottaGoDrink

    Gary- No surprises in this episode. I am still looking for any pinot from CA that I like. I haven’t given up, but…

    QOTD- Former life- MD 20/20, although it delivered a huge alcohol hit. Current life- 2001 Buckeley’s Shiraz, indescribably terrible and an RP89.

  • luvgrapesqeezings

    QOD: Cisco wine or ‘wine-drink’ is the worst. I had it once when I was 23 y/o
    and I got a headache as soon as it had hit my lips!!!!!!!!!!
    Gary, you should give a shout out to all the Andre lurkers out there.

  • bruce gardner

    The reason wines this bad are produced is because people keep buying them. Yuk. I disagree with your dcore on the Talus. I don’t think it even deserves the minumum score.

  • luvgrapesqeezings

    QOD: Cisco wine or ‘wine-drink’ is the worst. I had it once when I was 23 y/o
    and I got a headache as soon as it had hit my lips!!!!!!!!!!
    Gary, you should give a shout out to all the Andre lurkers out there.

  • bruce gardner

    The reason wines this bad are produced is because people keep buying them. Yuk. I disagree with your dcore on the Talus. I don’t think it even deserves the minumum score.

  • QOTD: Two Buck Chuck Cab. ’nuff said.

  • QOTD: Two Buck Chuck Cab. ’nuff said.

  • Ken

    QOTD: Any Fontera Cab Merlot blend from Chile.

    Q: Can anyone recommend a good Pinot Noir for uder 15 bones? Thx.

  • Ken

    QOTD: Any Fontera Cab Merlot blend from Chile.

    Q: Can anyone recommend a good Pinot Noir for uder 15 bones? Thx.

  • Andy

    QOTD— I guess it was Night Train when the funds were low….

  • Andy

    QOTD— I guess it was Night Train when the funds were low….

  • Brett M

    QOTD: Sticking with the theme of bad cheap Pinot, Vampire Pinot Noir from Romania for 7 bucks. Worst swill I’ve ever tasted.

  • Brett M

    QOTD: Sticking with the theme of bad cheap Pinot, Vampire Pinot Noir from Romania for 7 bucks. Worst swill I’ve ever tasted.

  • Wandamae

    By now you….and we….know there is really no such thing as any good wine under $10 and $5.01 is really desperate. Gary….you should ‘up the annie’ just a tad and keep these episodes out. They are a waste of time and energy and I think by now your audience is more educated.

    With that said…hmmm under $10….haven’t had lately…unless you count the Merlots over $25 blind tasting I went to where someone bagged a 2 Buck for fun. It was immediately discovered and dumped. Tasted like the Hollywood Hills fire.

  • Wandamae

    By now you….and we….know there is really no such thing as any good wine under $10 and $5.01 is really desperate. Gary….you should ‘up the annie’ just a tad and keep these episodes out. They are a waste of time and energy and I think by now your audience is more educated.

    With that said…hmmm under $10….haven’t had lately…unless you count the Merlots over $25 blind tasting I went to where someone bagged a 2 Buck for fun. It was immediately discovered and dumped. Tasted like the Hollywood Hills fire.

  • Kirk

    QOTD: The WORST under $10 bottle of wine I have had was the Cline “Cote de Oakley” 2002 white last summer.

    Andy: Look for Vox Populi a romanian Pinot Noir. It’s $9 here in Maine or Firesteed from Oregon ($14). Remember with Pinot it’s really hard to find good bottles. These bottles are average run of the mill 80 point wines in my book. Nothing special or that I would want to drink on a daily basis. If you got the Pinot bug splurge and really enjoy your wines every now & again. I would rather drink one very nice bottle a month ($40) than 4 blaze’ bottles. What about you?

  • Kirk

    QOTD: The WORST under $10 bottle of wine I have had was the Cline “Cote de Oakley” 2002 white last summer.

    Andy: Look for Vox Populi a romanian Pinot Noir. It’s $9 here in Maine or Firesteed from Oregon ($14). Remember with Pinot it’s really hard to find good bottles. These bottles are average run of the mill 80 point wines in my book. Nothing special or that I would want to drink on a daily basis. If you got the Pinot bug splurge and really enjoy your wines every now & again. I would rather drink one very nice bottle a month ($40) than 4 blaze’ bottles. What about you?

  • Jen Loves Wine

    Hey Gary — was hoping for the best on this one, but after some early experiences with

  • Jen Loves Wine

    Hey Gary — was hoping for the best on this one, but after some early experiences with

  • Worst under $10 wines, certainly anything from Lindeman will fit that category, what a terrible producer of wines to begin with. The worst I’ve ever had were wines from a Missouri winery called Wiedeker. Really awful crap.

    I’m surprised you even attempted this. Pinot Noir is a delicate grape and no, not because Miles said so. Going around to over 100 wineries that produce Pinots in 6 countries that is the word from every winemaker and supply/demand makes expense so good Pinot Noir has to be sourced from good grapes in the first place. Anybody buying juice out of the country (and that Talus was juice not grapes when they got it) will produce poor wines in my experience. Yes, many CA wineries in CA source their grapes (not juice) from other places in CA but they do their own crushes and at least control that aspect of production. All of the wines you tasted were just attempts to climb on the Pinot band wagon. Where Pinot Noir is grown in Italy and Israel tends to be too hot for Pinot as well.

  • Worst under $10 wines, certainly anything from Lindeman will fit that category, what a terrible producer of wines to begin with. The worst I’ve ever had were wines from a Missouri winery called Wiedeker. Really awful crap.

    I’m surprised you even attempted this. Pinot Noir is a delicate grape and no, not because Miles said so. Going around to over 100 wineries that produce Pinots in 6 countries that is the word from every winemaker and supply/demand makes expense so good Pinot Noir has to be sourced from good grapes in the first place. Anybody buying juice out of the country (and that Talus was juice not grapes when they got it) will produce poor wines in my experience. Yes, many CA wineries in CA source their grapes (not juice) from other places in CA but they do their own crushes and at least control that aspect of production. All of the wines you tasted were just attempts to climb on the Pinot band wagon. Where Pinot Noir is grown in Italy and Israel tends to be too hot for Pinot as well.

  • Lurkerdog

    GVNC: Very timely QOTD. Last night I opened a $9.99 Zinfandel and it was terrible. It tasted like I bit into an oak tree that was soaked in Tobasco sauce. It was hyped by one of your competitors as “A great deal on boutique Napa Zin…was $22, now only $9.99!” 2002 Rockledge Napa Zinfandel. By the way have you ever tasted Two-buck Chuck on your show?

  • Lurkerdog

    GVNC: Very timely QOTD. Last night I opened a $9.99 Zinfandel and it was terrible. It tasted like I bit into an oak tree that was soaked in Tobasco sauce. It was hyped by one of your competitors as “A great deal on boutique Napa Zin…was $22, now only $9.99!” 2002 Rockledge Napa Zinfandel. By the way have you ever tasted Two-buck Chuck on your show?

  • thkorent

    QOTD: It was an Italian Chianti from cecchi. can’t remember the vintage but back off across all of ’em.

  • thkorent

    QOTD: It was an Italian Chianti from cecchi. can’t remember the vintage but back off across all of ’em.

  • CHARLES SHAW you cant even cook with this stuff or give it to someone you DON’T like!

  • CHARLES SHAW you cant even cook with this stuff or give it to someone you DON’T like!

  • KW

    Not a big Pinot Fan – most of them are too light for my taste.
    Corbett Canyon Chard. Yuck.

  • KW

    Not a big Pinot Fan – most of them are too light for my taste.
    Corbett Canyon Chard. Yuck.

  • ” thkorent:

    QOTD: It was an Italian Chianti from cecchi”

    You know, I was gonna use that in his QOTD the other day about worst wine in the last couple weeks. We picked up a Cecchi Chianti to have with some pizza and it was horrid. Seriously, one of the worst wines I have ever had.

  • ” thkorent:

    QOTD: It was an Italian Chianti from cecchi”

    You know, I was gonna use that in his QOTD the other day about worst wine in the last couple weeks. We picked up a Cecchi Chianti to have with some pizza and it was horrid. Seriously, one of the worst wines I have ever had.

  • Marko TJ From Finland

    Hi Gary,

    There is no competition on worst wine ever.. like i said on 256 Talus Pinot Noir takes the cake, i really would like to know who’s the jackass that desided to import that junk all the way to Finland.

  • Marko TJ From Finland

    Hi Gary,

    There is no competition on worst wine ever.. like i said on 256 Talus Pinot Noir takes the cake, i really would like to know who’s the jackass that desided to import that junk all the way to Finland.

  • MannyPants

    Appreciate the effort even though there didn’t seem to to be a winner among these bottles. QOTD: IM Rose, not a fan.

  • MannyPants

    Appreciate the effort even though there didn’t seem to to be a winner among these bottles. QOTD: IM Rose, not a fan.

  • Len C

    you complain that everyone is buying the oak monster shirt and not the GV so you wear the oak monster?????

  • Len C

    you complain that everyone is buying the oak monster shirt and not the GV so you wear the oak monster?????

  • Gary…..thank you for this episode. This really went out of the way to show me just how much suck at the wining thing. I had that Cavit, at Olive Garden, this weekend and since watching this show I am trying to pay attention to the bouquet and the flavor and all that. Anyway, I drank it, liked the smell, pretty much came to the same conclusion as you, then drank it and…I thought it was alright. A little off balance but not terrible, certainly not as good as some other Pinot’s I’ve had…

    …and now I just realized Cavit is terrible and I do not know what the hell Pinot is supposed to taste like. This irks me, I am obviously way off base here. You know what would be good? For you to talk about exercises people can go to learn what certain wines are supposed to taste-like, in an average sense. Perhaps show an average pinot, a unique pinot and a sh!tty pinot and then let us know so we can go buy all three and compare ourselves. Know what I mean? Just an idea, cause I am clearly lost here.

  • Gary…..thank you for this episode. This really went out of the way to show me just how much suck at the wining thing. I had that Cavit, at Olive Garden, this weekend and since watching this show I am trying to pay attention to the bouquet and the flavor and all that. Anyway, I drank it, liked the smell, pretty much came to the same conclusion as you, then drank it and…I thought it was alright. A little off balance but not terrible, certainly not as good as some other Pinot’s I’ve had…

    …and now I just realized Cavit is terrible and I do not know what the hell Pinot is supposed to taste like. This irks me, I am obviously way off base here. You know what would be good? For you to talk about exercises people can go to learn what certain wines are supposed to taste-like, in an average sense. Perhaps show an average pinot, a unique pinot and a sh!tty pinot and then let us know so we can go buy all three and compare ourselves. Know what I mean? Just an idea, cause I am clearly lost here.

  • Steve B

    There are some worth while Pinots available for under 20USD, but you have to look hard and the production numbers are very small. Two that I have had are the Hayman&Hill Pinot Noir Santa Lucia Highlands(~$15) and the Samantha Starr Pinot also in the same price range.(Same winemaker as Talbot Winery) These are not as big and complex as say a Pisoni or Roar, but its hard to beat the price.

    QOTD — 2buck chuck Cabernet; virtually undrinkable!

  • Steve B

    There are some worth while Pinots available for under 20USD, but you have to look hard and the production numbers are very small. Two that I have had are the Hayman&Hill Pinot Noir Santa Lucia Highlands(~$15) and the Samantha Starr Pinot also in the same price range.(Same winemaker as Talbot Winery) These are not as big and complex as say a Pisoni or Roar, but its hard to beat the price.

    QOTD — 2buck chuck Cabernet; virtually undrinkable!

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