EP 407 Under The Radar, Merlot

Gary today looks at Merlots from 3 different regions. Is Merlot a wine which people have forgotten about?

Wines tasted in this episode:

2002 Grapes Of Roth MerlotNew York Merlot
2003 Chateau Beausejour BecotSt Emilion
2004 Long Shadows PedestalWashington Red Meritage

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John__J

qotd: AGAINST the monster. A little oak is fine, but there is no excuse for the oak monster. Wine should be made outta grapes, not trees.

Tags: merlot, New York, red, review, St Emilion, Video, washington state, wine, wines

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  • J Crazy

    QOTD: I vote “nay” for El Senor De La Monstera Del Oak. Little baby Oakitos are cool. The always elegant Madame Oak L’oak is rockin’ but when such is the oak that we need Prof. X to come in and manage his mutations we have something that is not very pleasant. Like life, it’s all about balance baby.

  • farmer jim

    sometimes I get the craving for a little oak… a little oak…. the oak monsters baby bro

  • farmer jim

    sometimes I get the craving for a little oak… a little oak…. the oak monsters baby bro

  • Clifford

    If the Oak Monster wins this election, I’m leaving this country!

    Sincerely,
    Alec Baldwin

  • Marshall

    QOTD:I hate the oak monster.

  • Clifford

    If the Oak Monster wins this election, I’m leaving this country!

    Sincerely,
    Alec Baldwin

  • Marshall

    QOTD:I hate the oak monster.

  • mark

    i actually love the oak !!! tastes great !!

  • mark

    i actually love the oak !!! tastes great !!

  • GoldensGirl

    QOTD: Sorry. Too clueless to know the answer to this one.

    Would like to say that I’m in the camp that thinks you’re wasting wine needlessly when you pour and toss. Way too much effort goes into growing the grapes and making the wine to dump the stuff (even in jest) unless it’s crap. Wine is a slow and thoughtful drink that doesn’t deserve to be treated as a “who cares?” disposable commodity. Just asking you to respect the wine the way we respect you. No offense.

  • F.

    Nothing against the Oak monster, particularly…

    but shattering small glasses with big-ass glasses is really cool!

  • GoldensGirl

    QOTD: Sorry. Too clueless to know the answer to this one.

    Would like to say that I’m in the camp that thinks you’re wasting wine needlessly when you pour and toss. Way too much effort goes into growing the grapes and making the wine to dump the stuff (even in jest) unless it’s crap. Wine is a slow and thoughtful drink that doesn’t deserve to be treated as a “who cares?” disposable commodity. Just asking you to respect the wine the way we respect you. No offense.

  • F.

    Nothing against the Oak monster, particularly…

    but shattering small glasses with big-ass glasses is really cool!

  • TonyStro

    Altho I appreciate a LITTLE oak, I also feel the presence of indicates the winemakers’ skepticism as to the quality of their effort. It’s like a girl with tons of makeup, she’s hiding something!

  • TonyStro

    Altho I appreciate a LITTLE oak, I also feel the presence of indicates the winemakers’ skepticism as to the quality of their effort. It’s like a girl with tons of makeup, she’s hiding something!

  • Glenn

    Hey you jerk, why are you wasting so much wine?

    No fan of the OM here and thank you for reminding me why I dislike Merlot

  • SGoodwin

    Vote “no” on the oak monster.
    Vote “yes” on the big-ass glass.
    And, unfortunately, I have to vote “no” on Vivian. Cute as all get-out but not sure how it qualifies as “spreading the thunder”!

  • Glenn

    Hey you jerk, why are you wasting so much wine?

    No fan of the OM here and thank you for reminding me why I dislike Merlot

  • SGoodwin

    Vote “no” on the oak monster.
    Vote “yes” on the big-ass glass.
    And, unfortunately, I have to vote “no” on Vivian. Cute as all get-out but not sure how it qualifies as “spreading the thunder”!

  • pawncop

    Not a huge fan of the OM, I think some oak is good too much not so good. You can waste as much wine as you wnat, ain’t my wine.

    Love the palate training of Vivian.

  • pawncop

    Not a huge fan of the OM, I think some oak is good too much not so good. You can waste as much wine as you wnat, ain’t my wine.

    Love the palate training of Vivian.

  • cumpari

    QOTD: Just say no to the Oak Monster! Ah, I guess the Reagans were good for something!

    GV: Do you think sometimes you might consider wines that are not only built to last, but should laid down before being popped? I’ve not tried the Pedestal, but I do wonder if that is a goal of the winemaker(s) on that project. I have tried the 04 Chester/Kidder last winter and it was barely drinkable (killer tannins)…definitely needed some more time to settle down. Just a thought, mang.

  • cumpari

    QOTD: Just say no to the Oak Monster! Ah, I guess the Reagans were good for something!

    GV: Do you think sometimes you might consider wines that are not only built to last, but should laid down before being popped? I’ve not tried the Pedestal, but I do wonder if that is a goal of the winemaker(s) on that project. I have tried the 04 Chester/Kidder last winter and it was barely drinkable (killer tannins)…definitely needed some more time to settle down. Just a thought, mang.

  • ryang

    QOTD: Oak monster bad. I’m almost hyper sensitive to the oak monster. as soon as i get a hint of it I’m annoyed and it puts me in a bad mindset. I have to make a point to keep my mind open as i drink the wine.

  • ryang

    QOTD: Oak monster bad. I’m almost hyper sensitive to the oak monster. as soon as i get a hint of it I’m annoyed and it puts me in a bad mindset. I have to make a point to keep my mind open as i drink the wine.

  • FJDR

    QOTD: I’m still figuring out my feelings about the OM. Need to drink more wine!

  • FJDR

    QOTD: I’m still figuring out my feelings about the OM. Need to drink more wine!

  • Tommy Vernieri

    QOTD: Why does it have to be so black and white? I’d give the oak monster a term in office. I think only for certain types of wines though, I feel like I’ve had wines with oak that I’ve liked and some with oak where it really worked against the wine.

  • Tommy Vernieri

    QOTD: Why does it have to be so black and white? I’d give the oak monster a term in office. I think only for certain types of wines though, I feel like I’ve had wines with oak that I’ve liked and some with oak where it really worked against the wine.

  • Jim in Atlanta

    QOTD – Not a big fan of the oak monster. I like the taste of the grapes better.

  • Jim in Atlanta

    QOTD – Not a big fan of the oak monster. I like the taste of the grapes better.

  • Gary, one of your best episodes ever, completely all over the place just like the wine’s in front of you. The gulp from the bottle was priceless, QOTD:LIGHT oak is nice, French, Michigan, Hungarian, however Missouri Oak can get a little old…..

  • eastberlin

    Love the well-integrated oak. Good reserve wines from Italy, Spain, France get 2-3 years of French or Slovenian oak and for the better! Problem with a lot of new world wines is too much sawn American oak combined with too much heat. It’s like someone put a shot of Jack Daniels in your glass of wine.

  • Gary, one of your best episodes ever, completely all over the place just like the wine’s in front of you. The gulp from the bottle was priceless, QOTD:LIGHT oak is nice, French, Michigan, Hungarian, however Missouri Oak can get a little old…..

  • eastberlin

    Love the well-integrated oak. Good reserve wines from Italy, Spain, France get 2-3 years of French or Slovenian oak and for the better! Problem with a lot of new world wines is too much sawn American oak combined with too much heat. It’s like someone put a shot of Jack Daniels in your glass of wine.

  • Tim

    The oak monster is a nasty, fruit-gobbling, terroir-destroying, shameless beast. I don’t like the buttery residue left by the malo(lactic) monster any better.

  • Tim

    The oak monster is a nasty, fruit-gobbling, terroir-destroying, shameless beast. I don’t like the buttery residue left by the malo(lactic) monster any better.

  • wm mole

    Pro Gary, anti oak.
    Really have to thank you for helping me identify what heavy oak actually was…like that Friday when you got up and tried to bite off a chunk of your desk….hilarious, did it for me…another fantastic analogy/picture vision painted by you.
    Love the passion and energy you bring to the table. The chinnon veggie stand visit was outstanding, no script either, beautiful. It’s also cool when your creative energy overtakes your ability to speak your thoughts. That’s amazing and you handle it very well. All the best to you GV.

  • wm mole

    Pro Gary, anti oak.
    Really have to thank you for helping me identify what heavy oak actually was…like that Friday when you got up and tried to bite off a chunk of your desk….hilarious, did it for me…another fantastic analogy/picture vision painted by you.
    Love the passion and energy you bring to the table. The chinnon veggie stand visit was outstanding, no script either, beautiful. It’s also cool when your creative energy overtakes your ability to speak your thoughts. That’s amazing and you handle it very well. All the best to you GV.

  • CA Jake

    QOTD: Gary, why wait until the weekend? My wife had a bottle of Patz & Hall pinot open while I was watching and I didn’t really think much of it. Oak monster!
    I had a 2001 Loire Cab Franc sitting there on the counter so I popped it. Clos Rougeard “Ley Poyeux” from Beaune Imports in Berkeley CA.

    Much better! This wine has that celery, vegetable component you mention on the nose, but not barnyardy. The taste is really amazing though. Long, smooth, silky dark cherries, forest floor, dirt, maybe a little wood spice at the end, very fine tannins, great length, some pepper, elegant.

    Your right, not for everybody. My wife likes the Patz and Hall a bit more. That’s cool, but I like this WAY more…

  • CA Jake

    QOTD: Gary, why wait until the weekend? My wife had a bottle of Patz & Hall pinot open while I was watching and I didn’t really think much of it. Oak monster!
    I had a 2001 Loire Cab Franc sitting there on the counter so I popped it. Clos Rougeard “Ley Poyeux” from Beaune Imports in Berkeley CA.

    Much better! This wine has that celery, vegetable component you mention on the nose, but not barnyardy. The taste is really amazing though. Long, smooth, silky dark cherries, forest floor, dirt, maybe a little wood spice at the end, very fine tannins, great length, some pepper, elegant.

    Your right, not for everybody. My wife likes the Patz and Hall a bit more. That’s cool, but I like this WAY more…

  • Jessica

    QOTD: I am so Anti-Oak Monster!!! I just started watching about a month back, and I’m glad you’re with me on that. Ugh, oak…it really takes over, hence why I don’t like Chardonnay (or most Viognnes – spelled wrong, pff whatever). I’m also with you on Merlots. That movie “Sideways” gave ’em a bad name, and they don’t deserve it.

    But I’m not with you on Cab Francs…I don’t like to drink dirty veggies. That’s my pal, though.

  • Jessica

    QOTD: I am so Anti-Oak Monster!!! I just started watching about a month back, and I’m glad you’re with me on that. Ugh, oak…it really takes over, hence why I don’t like Chardonnay (or most Viognnes – spelled wrong, pff whatever). I’m also with you on Merlots. That movie “Sideways” gave ’em a bad name, and they don’t deserve it.

    But I’m not with you on Cab Francs…I don’t like to drink dirty veggies. That’s my pal, though.

  • QOTD: Oak isn’t bad…but the Oak Monster…REALLY BAD!
    So many wines are rendered practically undrinkable by spending to much time hangin’ with the oak monster.

  • QOTD: Oak isn’t bad…but the Oak Monster…REALLY BAD!
    So many wines are rendered practically undrinkable by spending to much time hangin’ with the oak monster.

  • Mike Griffin

    QOTD: I vote against the Oak Monster. If I want to drink Oak, I would be drinking Jack Daniels. Thats why I stick with Jameson. No Oak.

  • Mike Griffin

    QOTD: I vote against the Oak Monster. If I want to drink Oak, I would be drinking Jack Daniels. Thats why I stick with Jameson. No Oak.

  • A touch of oak is ok, but not when it overwhelms the real flavors of the wine. Merlot on the other hand, not my thing at all.

  • A touch of oak is ok, but not when it overwhelms the real flavors of the wine. Merlot on the other hand, not my thing at all.

  • Phil M’Glassup

    Lurker here, making my first comment after my triumphant appearances on freewinelibray.com
    I must say, I’m impressed with our gang’s for-the-most-part nuanced reaction to the question.
    Why make sweeping declarations? Sometimes an oaky, buttery Calil chard is just the thing. Same with a monsterCab. Their flavors aretn’t subtle but the can really hit the spot.
    Other times call for more nuanced flavors, especially when the food is delicate.
    Like any ingredient II know I’m misspeaking slightly here), when oak is out of balance, it’s hell. But fruit and tannin can unbalnce just as effectively.
    Here’s to more whimsy in our wine drinking. Want to flout the rules? Drink a tree.
    Two or three other things: that baby was adorable.
    And Jen Pipes is even more adorable.
    When she appreared, you were all yapping about the pappy! Hey y’all, HOT GIRT THERE! Jeeeez!
    (Since she’s a fan, I want to make a joke about sharing my personal Oak Monster with jen, but that would be unseemly)
    Finally, the broken glass reminds me of some wise counsel concerning a certain Jewish matrimonial custom.
    Boychiks, if you’re getting married and your shayna maidele insists you break the glass with your bare feet, get out from under the chuppa IMMEDIATELY!

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