EP 566 German Pinot Noirs

Who talks about Pinot Noir from Germany? Gary V does!

Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Oberrotweil Pinot Noir Estate
2005 Oberbergen Pinot Noir Select
2005 Karl H. Johner Pinot Noir

Links mentioned in todays episode.

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Luca Bercelli

90/100

line of the day – ‘This has a more disturbing nose. This is what I call “wet garbage” ‘

I didn’t even know Germany made Pinot Noir before watching this…I’ll be looking out for them in the future

Tags: German, Pinot Noir, red, review, wine, wines

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  • Pete

    Really enjoy Italian Pinot Noirs. Can’t recall the vineyards off hand but have had a number that I really liked. Some of the NZ Pinots will rock it but so many just feel too fruity for my palette.

  • Pete

    Really enjoy Italian Pinot Noirs. Can’t recall the vineyards off hand but have had a number that I really liked. Some of the NZ Pinots will rock it but so many just feel too fruity for my palette.

  • Peter Schelde

    I’ve had a lot of german red wines. Saturday I had a Temprenillo from Pfalz (german region)…

    Top pinot producers i Germany are: Bernhard Huber, Ziereisen, Johner, Knipser, Salwey, Bercher, duijn and others.

    My favorite is Huber – beat most burgundy, american and new zealand Pinot’s- try it.

    Peter from Denmark

  • Peter Schelde

    I’ve had a lot of german red wines. Saturday I had a Temprenillo from Pfalz (german region)…

    Top pinot producers i Germany are: Bernhard Huber, Ziereisen, Johner, Knipser, Salwey, Bercher, duijn and others.

    My favorite is Huber – beat most burgundy, american and new zealand Pinot’s- try it.

    Peter from Denmark

  • Brandon Snell

    QOTD: Only ever had California Pinot Noir

  • Brandon Snell

    QOTD: Only ever had California Pinot Noir

  • Classico

    Hi there.
    Indeed a non familiar kind of Pinot.
    Will try some soon since we’re neihgbours i feel obliged
    Answer to the question:
    A very interesting Pinot is coming from the Mooi Bly vineyards in South Africa.

    Cheerio….

    Classico

  • Classico

    Hi there.
    Indeed a non familiar kind of Pinot.
    Will try some soon since we’re neihgbours i feel obliged
    Answer to the question:
    A very interesting Pinot is coming from the Mooi Bly vineyards in South Africa.

    Cheerio….

    Classico

  • Derek F.

    German Pinot…very interesting, not even sure I can find that stuff???

    QOTD: not sure if I have had any??

  • Derek F.

    German Pinot…very interesting, not even sure I can find that stuff???

    QOTD: not sure if I have had any??

  • IPBrian

    Leaving a comment, but I have nothing for the QOTD…I have started using Evernote for tasting notes so I should actually be able to answer some of Gary’s questions some day soon. 😉

  • IPBrian

    Leaving a comment, but I have nothing for the QOTD…I have started using Evernote for tasting notes so I should actually be able to answer some of Gary’s questions some day soon. 😉

  • manonthemoon

    Nice show.

    QOTD: The best would be either the Sineann 2007 McGinlay’s Vineyard Marlborough, NZ Pinot Noir or the a Leo Hillenger Austrian Pinot Noir bottle at a tasting.

    Must have green wristband…..

  • manonthemoon

    Nice show.

    QOTD: The best would be either the Sineann 2007 McGinlay’s Vineyard Marlborough, NZ Pinot Noir or the a Leo Hillenger Austrian Pinot Noir bottle at a tasting.

    Must have green wristband…..

  • Franish

    QOTD: Wines from Chile Cono Sur, Reserva, Pinot Noir 2005.

  • irvus

    GV:
    Howya sposed to friend-up with you via Linked-In when we have no prior business dealings and it requires your email to Link In as a friend? Oh, and the show was, of course, gouda.
    thanks,
    irv

  • Franish

    QOTD: Wines from Chile Cono Sur, Reserva, Pinot Noir 2005.

  • irvus

    GV:
    Howya sposed to friend-up with you via Linked-In when we have no prior business dealings and it requires your email to Link In as a friend? Oh, and the show was, of course, gouda.
    thanks,
    irv

  • Jens

    QOTD: Brigante in Fuga 1998, Pinot nero, Cascina Barrichi, Piemonte.

    Jens from Copenhagen

  • Jens

    QOTD: Brigante in Fuga 1998, Pinot nero, Cascina Barrichi, Piemonte.

    Jens from Copenhagen

  • OzJeff

    I have to leave a comment today, coming to you from Baden, Germany 🙂

    Just in the last few months I have cast off my prejudice and been trying a few SpĂ€tburgunder. One that was OK was a “2006 Philipp Kuhn ? Tradition SpĂ€tburgunder”. I wouldn’t call it earth shattering though.

    OzJeff

  • OzJeff

    I have to leave a comment today, coming to you from Baden, Germany 🙂

    Just in the last few months I have cast off my prejudice and been trying a few SpĂ€tburgunder. One that was OK was a “2006 Philipp Kuhn ? Tradition SpĂ€tburgunder”. I wouldn’t call it earth shattering though.

    OzJeff

  • Great show Gary. Got the Election Pack today, us in Red State Nebraska are going to be celebrating an Obama victory with some good wine. Please more Arnold impressions.

  • Great show Gary. Got the Election Pack today, us in Red State Nebraska are going to be celebrating an Obama victory with some good wine. Please more Arnold impressions.

  • Rex

    Tried Baden pinot noir for the first time two years ago at a Weingut Heitlinger tasting. I tought I was getting into a sugar incremental kabinett trocken to beerenauslese riesling comparative tasting…that turned out to be 5 reds and two whites. The reds where actually good, on the simple side but well made.

    QOTD Best non french or USA pinot noir so far where two Niagara (Ontario, Canada) 2007 barrel samples from “Foreign Affair Winery” and “Organized Crime Winery”. Both are made by the same consulting winemaker and are just textbook pinots from a great vintage.

    Olivier from Montreal

  • Rex

    Tried Baden pinot noir for the first time two years ago at a Weingut Heitlinger tasting. I tought I was getting into a sugar incremental kabinett trocken to beerenauslese riesling comparative tasting…that turned out to be 5 reds and two whites. The reds where actually good, on the simple side but well made.

    QOTD Best non french or USA pinot noir so far where two Niagara (Ontario, Canada) 2007 barrel samples from “Foreign Affair Winery” and “Organized Crime Winery”. Both are made by the same consulting winemaker and are just textbook pinots from a great vintage.

    Olivier from Montreal

  • Neil

    QOTD: I haven’t tried pinot outside of USA and France. Quite frankly ever since Sideways came out I haven’t sought out pinot noir as much in general.

  • Neil

    QOTD: I haven’t tried pinot outside of USA and France. Quite frankly ever since Sideways came out I haven’t sought out pinot noir as much in general.

  • cgatesman

    QOTD: 2006 Peregrine Pinot Noir Wentworth Single Vineyard from Central Otago

    Gary, get more Central Otagos at Wine Library!

  • cgatesman

    QOTD: 2006 Peregrine Pinot Noir Wentworth Single Vineyard from Central Otago

    Gary, get more Central Otagos at Wine Library!

  • wineknow

    QOTD: Hamilton Russell.

  • wineknow

    QOTD: Hamilton Russell.

  • KVolk

    QOTD: None…..

  • KVolk

    QOTD: None…..

  • Sarah

    Great show. I may be repeating something you already said, but Germany produces 1/3rd of the worlds Pinot Noir.

    QOTD: I’ve had several German spatburgunders. My favorite was probably from Weingut Huber. I can’t remember the vintage though.

    Another great non-Cali or French Pinot producer is J. Hofstatter in the Alto Adige region of Italy.

  • Sarah

    Great show. I may be repeating something you already said, but Germany produces 1/3rd of the worlds Pinot Noir.

    QOTD: I’ve had several German spatburgunders. My favorite was probably from Weingut Huber. I can’t remember the vintage though.

    Another great non-Cali or French Pinot producer is J. Hofstatter in the Alto Adige region of Italy.

  • Anonymous

    If any of you have the Parker Guide to Wine Buying, look up what he says about German Spatburgunder. I no longer have a copy, but I remember laughing my ass off. He slammed it HARD, calling it a wretched abomination, and on and on. Of course, I (nor should you) live by HIS word alone, my requirement was to produce some good German P.N. for a customer’s request (demand). I only came up with the Affenthaler monkey bottle, which was way light in color, and body, and too fruity for classic PN characteristics. I found it somewhat insipid, but the woman loved it. My girlfriend loves monkeys, so I got her a bottle for the hell of it- it was under $15. She’s no chief wino like me, and she loved it! I wrote it all off as ‘like really (over)jammy beaujolais’ and let it go at that.

  • Murso

    If any of you have the Parker Guide to Wine Buying, look up what he says about German Spatburgunder. I no longer have a copy, but I remember laughing my ass off. He slammed it HARD, calling it a wretched abomination, and on and on. Of course, I (nor should you) live by HIS word alone, my requirement was to produce some good German P.N. for a customer’s request (demand). I only came up with the Affenthaler monkey bottle, which was way light in color, and body, and too fruity for classic PN characteristics. I found it somewhat insipid, but the woman loved it. My girlfriend loves monkeys, so I got her a bottle for the hell of it- it was under $15. She’s no chief wino like me, and she loved it! I wrote it all off as ‘like really (over)jammy beaujolais’ and let it go at that.

  • Anonymous

    As noted by another, Italian Pinot Nero is difficult too, and best applied to methode champenoise in Franciacorta. The Tuscan Pomino had virtually no ageability and went to highly astringent sourness w/ no fruit in a couple of years.
    New Zealand’s Seifert and Felton Road make some good stuff, worthy of their low/mid prices.

  • Murso

    As noted by another, Italian Pinot Nero is difficult too, and best applied to methode champenoise in Franciacorta. The Tuscan Pomino had virtually no ageability and went to highly astringent sourness w/ no fruit in a couple of years.
    New Zealand’s Seifert and Felton Road make some good stuff, worthy of their low/mid prices.

  • Tarras Pinot Noir from New Zealand, it’s amazing! Seems a bit “fruit-bomby” to me but I just can’t help loving it! That’s the only pinot outside france I’ve had, apart from one pinot nero which I didn’t really like. I never like Italian wines though.

  • Tarras Pinot Noir from New Zealand, it’s amazing! Seems a bit “fruit-bomby” to me but I just can’t help loving it! That’s the only pinot outside france I’ve had, apart from one pinot nero which I didn’t really like. I never like Italian wines though.

  • Eugene

    Peter Brum Vino Noire. German. Excellent pinot noir. nice and light can even drink it chilled. Great conversion wine from white to red. Great beginners red.

  • Eugene

    Peter Brum Vino Noire. German. Excellent pinot noir. nice and light can even drink it chilled. Great conversion wine from white to red. Great beginners red.

  • Doug

    Good show Gary…I’m pumped for Thursday! QOTD: None…

  • Doug

    Good show Gary…I’m pumped for Thursday! QOTD: None…

  • BW

    QOTD : I am actually drinking some Omrah Pinot form Western Australia tonite. I would give it 90 pt – very good, somewhere between a new world fruity Pinot & an world Burgundian Pinot – has a little of both elements. A solid every-nite drinker

  • BW

    QOTD : I am actually drinking some Omrah Pinot form Western Australia tonite. I would give it 90 pt – very good, somewhere between a new world fruity Pinot & an world Burgundian Pinot – has a little of both elements. A solid every-nite drinker

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: I recently had my first german pinot-undone It was really nice. Liked the minerality.

    GOBAMA!!!!

  • flavasauce

    QOTD: I recently had my first german pinot-undone It was really nice. Liked the minerality.

    GOBAMA!!!!

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