EP 694 The Sake Education Show – Part 2

Beau Timken continues teaching Gary Vaynerchuk about Sake while they taste 3 different kinds.

Wines tasted in this episode:

Joto Chikurin Fukamari JunmaiJapanese Sake
Tsukinokatsura Yanagi ?Willow Tree?
Taiheizan Tenko “Heavenly Grace”

Links mentioned in today’s episode.

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luca bercelli

98/100

lines of the day – Guest, ‘I don’t drink with my nose’, GV ‘I do’. Also, Guest ‘your anus on the backend?’

Winelibrarytv launches into hyperspace with this episode. Two superfast brains shadowboxing for nearly an hour (both episodes). In my opinion a show that will remain my favourite, and how ironic that my best episode of winelibrarytv is about Sake and not wine… a drink that I’ve never had but am now desperate to try.

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  • GP

    Fabulous show, enjoyed the sake ed. AND the 2 of you together–you should Definitely do Sake.TV together, looking forward to it.

    QOTD: 1993 at a friend’s house in Pacific Grove, CA, red wine, I’ve since lost the name of it, but I know it’s no longer available. Friend wrote wine-review books, very knowledgeable. Prior to this I could take or leave wine, thought I preferred chilled white wine. I had scoffed at the saying, “Wine is like music on your tongue.” He served this wonderful wine, and for the first time in my life I Understood. He said it was one of the best he had ever tasted, asked us to guess the price, guesses were $50 to $250; it was $25: an education for me in several areas of the wine world that night.

  • GP

    Fabulous show, enjoyed the sake ed. AND the 2 of you together–you should Definitely do Sake.TV together, looking forward to it.

    QOTD: 1993 at a friend’s house in Pacific Grove, CA, red wine, I’ve since lost the name of it, but I know it’s no longer available. Friend wrote wine-review books, very knowledgeable. Prior to this I could take or leave wine, thought I preferred chilled white wine. I had scoffed at the saying, “Wine is like music on your tongue.” He served this wonderful wine, and for the first time in my life I Understood. He said it was one of the best he had ever tasted, asked us to guess the price, guesses were $50 to $250; it was $25: an education for me in several areas of the wine world that night.

  • GP

    Ha–I almost fell off my stilettos! Just read the reply about Alton Brown, Love that guy, too, and oh, so true! This Alabama-girl is in nerd-heaven right now–thanks guys!

  • GP

    Ha–I almost fell off my stilettos! Just read the reply about Alton Brown, Love that guy, too, and oh, so true! This Alabama-girl is in nerd-heaven right now–thanks guys!

  • Fun show, nice guest. I heard your iphone give the ring for email and I actually checked mine!

    QOTD:It could be the day that I tried Summer Shandy by Lienkuggel, That is one amazing alcoholic beverage. I think it may have been 1 year plus a few months ago.

  • Fun show, nice guest. I heard your iphone give the ring for email and I actually checked mine!

    QOTD:It could be the day that I tried Summer Shandy by Lienkuggel, That is one amazing alcoholic beverage. I think it may have been 1 year plus a few months ago.

  • Chelsea

    Awesome show! I can’t wait til I am 21 so I can actually try some of this stuff.

  • Chelsea

    Awesome show! I can’t wait til I am 21 so I can actually try some of this stuff.

  • mrpat56

    Great guest. I love the self taught aspects and passion the led him to sommelier. I have had only a few GOOD sake’s ,but since having the better ones I refuse to settle for less.

    QOTD- First eye- opener— 1974 Heitz Marthas Vineyard, Had it in 1982, and bought a many as I could after. Its better than classic. More recently I had a Daniel Schuster 2006 Omihi Pinot Noir, as seen here. Tasted it yesterday. Outstanding– again I bought all I could today. I think Parker underratted it.

  • mrpat56

    Great guest. I love the self taught aspects and passion the led him to sommelier. I have had only a few GOOD sake’s ,but since having the better ones I refuse to settle for less.

    QOTD- First eye- opener— 1974 Heitz Marthas Vineyard, Had it in 1982, and bought a many as I could after. Its better than classic. More recently I had a Daniel Schuster 2006 Omihi Pinot Noir, as seen here. Tasted it yesterday. Outstanding– again I bought all I could today. I think Parker underratted it.

  • Christopher Scoggin

    This was a really great pair of episodes. I am glad you let it run to two parts but even so it almost seemed rushed. You should have him back in six months or so and dig into Sake even more.

    QOTD: Chocolate. The first time a had real, honest to goodness chocolate (in Brussels) I new I had to know more and became a bit of a chocolate snob (but I got better… sorta 🙂 ).

  • Christopher Scoggin

    This was a really great pair of episodes. I am glad you let it run to two parts but even so it almost seemed rushed. You should have him back in six months or so and dig into Sake even more.

    QOTD: Chocolate. The first time a had real, honest to goodness chocolate (in Brussels) I new I had to know more and became a bit of a chocolate snob (but I got better… sorta 🙂 ).

  • Spectacular show(s). Follow through on your Oprah-Dr. Oz plan, I’d make time for another beverage show.

    I loved how you guys played off each other. Do another sake show together when you’re at his store, maybe a store tour with some tastings.

  • Spectacular show(s). Follow through on your Oprah-Dr. Oz plan, I’d make time for another beverage show.

    I loved how you guys played off each other. Do another sake show together when you’re at his store, maybe a store tour with some tastings.

  • Jonathon Guzicki

    Great! you’ve again added something to my list of things that I’ve got to try!

    QotD: my (alcoholic beverage) epiphany moment was sitting in Mestre, Italy with some of my friends when the waiter brought us some local red wine. It absolutely blew my mind that something as simple as where it came from could change my perceptions that much. In my limited experience previous to that, I had basically assumed that all wines were pretty much the same within the variety, but tasting wines from different places and different types of wine, crafted by different people and in different ways really peaked my interest.

  • Jonathon Guzicki

    Great! you’ve again added something to my list of things that I’ve got to try!

    QotD: my (alcoholic beverage) epiphany moment was sitting in Mestre, Italy with some of my friends when the waiter brought us some local red wine. It absolutely blew my mind that something as simple as where it came from could change my perceptions that much. In my limited experience previous to that, I had basically assumed that all wines were pretty much the same within the variety, but tasting wines from different places and different types of wine, crafted by different people and in different ways really peaked my interest.

  • Stephen

    Are there any QPR genuine Japanese sakes? All 3 of the ones on the show were kind of pricey (for me). I know that SakeOne/Momokowa from Oregon is an alternative, but how about a more reasonably priced Japanese sake.
    All in all, a great show (both Part 1 & 2) that I enjoyed.

  • Stephen

    Are there any QPR genuine Japanese sakes? All 3 of the ones on the show were kind of pricey (for me). I know that SakeOne/Momokowa from Oregon is an alternative, but how about a more reasonably priced Japanese sake.
    All in all, a great show (both Part 1 & 2) that I enjoyed.

  • Anonymous

    F-ing phenomenal episode. Seriously. I’m going to start diving into Sake MUCH more than I have been lately.

    QOTD: Recently I guess I would say Sashimi and Sushi. The whole raw seafood and raw meat play- like ceviche (love the acid) and carpaccio as well. Growing up, the thought of anything raw was dangerous to me, but recently I dove into this category and am all about it… which is a perfect time to get more into Sake!

  • YoungDave

    F-ing phenomenal episode. Seriously. I’m going to start diving into Sake MUCH more than I have been lately.

    QOTD: Recently I guess I would say Sashimi and Sushi. The whole raw seafood and raw meat play- like ceviche (love the acid) and carpaccio as well. Growing up, the thought of anything raw was dangerous to me, but recently I dove into this category and am all about it… which is a perfect time to get more into Sake!

  • ben from boston

    my interests are too diverse for one passion and my attention span too short, but the first time i saw gary v talk about expanding your palate, i knew i was on the right track. to me expanding your palate isnt just about taste, its about all your senses and experiences.

  • ben from boston

    my interests are too diverse for one passion and my attention span too short, but the first time i saw gary v talk about expanding your palate, i knew i was on the right track. to me expanding your palate isnt just about taste, its about all your senses and experiences.

  • mjr

    great episodes

    great guest. i live in tokyo so will chase down those bottles.

    mucho arigatou gozaimasu

    mjr

  • mjr

    great episodes

    great guest. i live in tokyo so will chase down those bottles.

    mucho arigatou gozaimasu

    mjr

  • John

    June 10 my wife and I had wine pairing with a 13 course tasting menu at 11 Madison Park restaurant in NYC. We were really interested in trying the white wines which dominated the pairing. To our surprise they started with sake and a tiny slice of halibut. It was great, when we inquired they said total production was only one barrel. I don’t remember the name but it was an eye opener starting the meal with sake. I travel a lot on business and have been to Japan many times. My Japanese hosts who are “into” sake exposed me to many premium brands but none ever wowed me the way this one did. It was very flavorful and the finish went on for minutes.

  • John

    June 10 my wife and I had wine pairing with a 13 course tasting menu at 11 Madison Park restaurant in NYC. We were really interested in trying the white wines which dominated the pairing. To our surprise they started with sake and a tiny slice of halibut. It was great, when we inquired they said total production was only one barrel. I don’t remember the name but it was an eye opener starting the meal with sake. I travel a lot on business and have been to Japan many times. My Japanese hosts who are “into” sake exposed me to many premium brands but none ever wowed me the way this one did. It was very flavorful and the finish went on for minutes.

  • M

    QOTD: I’ll go with a wine moment. My husband and I didn’t know a tremendous amount about wine and in August 1996, we went to France. We were wine drinkers but not wine nerds (yet). On that vacation, we tasted wine in basements/cellars in Gevrey Chambertin. We had no idea at the time that we were in a famous wine village. There is still a special place in our hearts for the wines of Burgundy.

    I work in a wine and spirits shop but I have yet to try Sake. I don’t think we carry any top tier Sake in the store but I will investigate and taste something soon.

  • M

    QOTD: I’ll go with a wine moment. My husband and I didn’t know a tremendous amount about wine and in August 1996, we went to France. We were wine drinkers but not wine nerds (yet). On that vacation, we tasted wine in basements/cellars in Gevrey Chambertin. We had no idea at the time that we were in a famous wine village. There is still a special place in our hearts for the wines of Burgundy.

    I work in a wine and spirits shop but I have yet to try Sake. I don’t think we carry any top tier Sake in the store but I will investigate and taste something soon.

  • JenB

    What a great show! I wish Beau had a store in Chicago. Beau…How about Chicago?
    I loved the fact that you were able to keep up with Gary. The two of you were racing and evenly matched.
    LOoking forward to future shows!

    Domo-arigato

  • JenB

    What a great show! I wish Beau had a store in Chicago. Beau…How about Chicago?
    I loved the fact that you were able to keep up with Gary. The two of you were racing and evenly matched.
    LOoking forward to future shows!

    Domo-arigato

  • That was beautiful! I enjoyed that episode tremendously. Completely infectious! Wonderful. Thanks!

  • That was beautiful! I enjoyed that episode tremendously. Completely infectious! Wonderful. Thanks!

  • Jason.k

    One word for this episode………Awesome. By the way was that Jim Carrey improving? Either way great episode.

  • Jason.k

    One word for this episode………Awesome. By the way was that Jim Carrey improving? Either way great episode.

  • 2005. Monterey. I’m at the Talbott tasting room and Gary Pisoni is standing to my left, Robb Talbott to my right. They’re both in t-shirts and jeans. I’m sipping the newest Cuvee Audrey release, and listening to these two icons of the wine world laugh, drink, and smile. I’d always had this image in my head of Baroness Phillipine de Rothschild standing at the entrance of her famed Chateau, and of a club into which I would never be granted membership. But there at that tasting room, sipping local chardonnay and listening to Pisoni and Talbott, I saw the spirit of le vin.

    That’s when I knew that wine was something magical.

  • 2005. Monterey. I’m at the Talbott tasting room and Gary Pisoni is standing to my left, Robb Talbott to my right. They’re both in t-shirts and jeans. I’m sipping the newest Cuvee Audrey release, and listening to these two icons of the wine world laugh, drink, and smile. I’d always had this image in my head of Baroness Phillipine de Rothschild standing at the entrance of her famed Chateau, and of a club into which I would never be granted membership. But there at that tasting room, sipping local chardonnay and listening to Pisoni and Talbott, I saw the spirit of le vin.

    That’s when I knew that wine was something magical.

  • Zach

    Awesome episodes. We live in the Bay Area and will visit True Sake soon.

    Epiphany beverage… so hard… for beer it was Sierra Nevada when I was living on the east coast in 1992, I couldn’t believe beer could taste like that. For wine there have been so many… NZ Sauv. Blanc in 1999, aged Bordeaux in 2003, aged riesling in 2008… I hope they keep on coming. Can’t wait for my sake epiphany!

  • Zach

    Awesome episodes. We live in the Bay Area and will visit True Sake soon.

    Epiphany beverage… so hard… for beer it was Sierra Nevada when I was living on the east coast in 1992, I couldn’t believe beer could taste like that. For wine there have been so many… NZ Sauv. Blanc in 1999, aged Bordeaux in 2003, aged riesling in 2008… I hope they keep on coming. Can’t wait for my sake epiphany!

  • looper

    Great episode. It is awe inspiring to see someone so passionate about their field. Beau is truly “Crushing It”
    QOTD: Orange juice. 1993, I tasted some fresh squeezed juice that made me an orange juice snob to this day. I, was 13 years old and immediately went to the encyclopedia brittanica to find out what concentrate was and how to eliminate it from my juice drinking world.

  • looper

    Great episode. It is awe inspiring to see someone so passionate about their field. Beau is truly “Crushing It”
    QOTD: Orange juice. 1993, I tasted some fresh squeezed juice that made me an orange juice snob to this day. I, was 13 years old and immediately went to the encyclopedia brittanica to find out what concentrate was and how to eliminate it from my juice drinking world.

  • Jarvis

    Wow… Many corny moments. However, loved the show, and thank you WLTV for producing a bad ass Sake show. Check the comments in the past, and see I left a comment on asking for a Sake show, since I will be traveling to Japan from Aug to Dec. What!

    QOTD. Artichokes!!! I make a artichoke pasta with pesto and its bangin.

  • Jarvis

    Wow… Many corny moments. However, loved the show, and thank you WLTV for producing a bad ass Sake show. Check the comments in the past, and see I left a comment on asking for a Sake show, since I will be traveling to Japan from Aug to Dec. What!

    QOTD. Artichokes!!! I make a artichoke pasta with pesto and its bangin.

  • Joshua Schulz

    I’m a cocktail guy, but after this episode and some of the expirimentation going on with Sake in the cocktail world… I am SO in to sake. Great epi.

  • Joshua Schulz

    I’m a cocktail guy, but after this episode and some of the expirimentation going on with Sake in the cocktail world… I am SO in to sake. Great epi.

  • Michael Steele

    My epiphony moments, I have two:

    #1. Back in 1994 I used to just drink Kendall-Jackson chardonnay because my girlfriend liked it. I really was a vodka & tonic guy. Then one day a friend of mine asked if I liked red wine. Nope was my answer. He said I needed to try something. It was an old vine Turley Zinfandel. I was forever changed. I had to know everything there was to know about red wine.

    #2. In 1999 I moved to LA and a friend took my to Sushi Roku. Up until then I had only had the bad, hot sake. To my shock and pleasure Roku had a sake sommelier. He asked a bunch of questions and then suggested a bottle of Tomanohikari. I was forever changed. Blew my mind that sake could taste like that. Unreal. Now I seek it out wherever I can.

    Great episode!

  • Michael Steele

    My epiphony moments, I have two:

    #1. Back in 1994 I used to just drink Kendall-Jackson chardonnay because my girlfriend liked it. I really was a vodka & tonic guy. Then one day a friend of mine asked if I liked red wine. Nope was my answer. He said I needed to try something. It was an old vine Turley Zinfandel. I was forever changed. I had to know everything there was to know about red wine.

    #2. In 1999 I moved to LA and a friend took my to Sushi Roku. Up until then I had only had the bad, hot sake. To my shock and pleasure Roku had a sake sommelier. He asked a bunch of questions and then suggested a bottle of Tomanohikari. I was forever changed. Blew my mind that sake could taste like that. Unreal. Now I seek it out wherever I can.

    Great episode!

  • Brazilian lurker here, attending your call! 🙂

    Great show, I will certainly go out and find some sake here to give it a try.

    QOTD: A 8 years old Johnnie Walker Red Label whisky, in the college, before that moment whisky was just a high alcohol drink with no taste. The funny fact is that now after loving wine for about a year or so even the most fine old blended (or not) whisky is just high alcohol again.. 🙂

  • Brazilian lurker here, attending your call! 🙂

    Great show, I will certainly go out and find some sake here to give it a try.

    QOTD: A 8 years old Johnnie Walker Red Label whisky, in the college, before that moment whisky was just a high alcohol drink with no taste. The funny fact is that now after loving wine for about a year or so even the most fine old blended (or not) whisky is just high alcohol again.. 🙂

  • QOTD: my first beer was a guinness extra stout when I was younger, I thought it was the worst thing on earth and that it “started off with an after taste”. It took me almost 5 years to even try a beer again when I helped a friend of mine complete a home brew we were working on for a few months. He really wanted me to try the fruits of his/our labor, so I did, and at that moment I knew that quality beer would be a big part of my life. Also, having over come that mental block, it led me to be able to appreciate the finer points of cigars, cognac, and now wine, but after this show I may have to take a hiatus from wine for a few months to learn about Saki, which I only thought came as the Nigori type a few years back.
    thanks and happy drinking!

  • QOTD: my first beer was a guinness extra stout when I was younger, I thought it was the worst thing on earth and that it “started off with an after taste”. It took me almost 5 years to even try a beer again when I helped a friend of mine complete a home brew we were working on for a few months. He really wanted me to try the fruits of his/our labor, so I did, and at that moment I knew that quality beer would be a big part of my life. Also, having over come that mental block, it led me to be able to appreciate the finer points of cigars, cognac, and now wine, but after this show I may have to take a hiatus from wine for a few months to learn about Saki, which I only thought came as the Nigori type a few years back.
    thanks and happy drinking!

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