EP 827 California Thunder- Serious Cabernet and Pinot Noir Tasting – Epiosode #827

Gary picked out three iconic wines from California with big scores and put them to the test.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2007 Drew Mcdougall Ranch Pinot NoirSonoma Pinot Noir
2006 Beaulieu Vineyard George De Latour Private ReserveNapa Cabernet
2005 Crocker & Starr Stone Place Cabernet SauvignonNapa Cabernet

Links mentioned in todays episode.


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luca bercelli

90/100

line of the day – ‘I can’t taste this I just had a breath mint (Mott). Good, a couple of shows ago you almost knocked me out….just joking’

Monster wines, happy show

Tags: cabernet, california, napa, Pinot Noir, red, review, Video, wine, wines

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  • Anonymous

    thanks. my bad. when i opened up my restaurant i went through a decent spell of not keeping up with anything. it must have been during that time. i will look for it.

  • I'd love to see such a blind test too! It might as well be other variety, for me at least. I always wonder how 20$+ wines REALLY compare when the price goes up. I rarely drink good wine under 15$ (but it happens, of course) – but I often can't justify spending more, as I often can't really feel the difference proportional to the price increase.

  • Agreed! That could be a cool ep. Why pay 90 bones, when you can get the same for 30 bones?

  • Anonymous

    Its how i like it!! lol
    …and I dont eat red meat very often…

  • asadw

    ert567890-98765

  • davidemillombard

    Medium baby. Excited about the Crocker & Starr

  • Love the bobblehead….I guess anyone can get a bobblehead nowadays? haha j/k

    QOTD: Like my steaks medium-rare and with zip-sauce….all of my DTW peeps know what I'm talking about. Too bad most of the rest of the country has no clue what zip-sauce is. Yes talk more about the food-wine parings…great idea.

  • WOTD. Medium rare. I'm not eating any dried up steak!

  • ahillsey

    Medium rare…Crocker & Starr also makes a pretty killer Cab Franc.

  • Phredd3

    Crcker-Starr adds 20% to the bottle price by charging both tax and two-day air shipping. I'll have to think about that.

    QOTD: I'm the only person I know who actually prefer medium steak. You'd think medium would be in the middle, but I know far more people who like steak medium rare or rare than medium or higher. I do know one or two folks who like shoe leather, though. Bleah.

  • castello

    wtf?

  • Phredd3

    No, but you do have to change you expectations. Wine is 2x the price from a restaurant wine list. That's just the way it is. If you want really good wine, it is worth it to pay corkage.

  • castello

    Yes, but that means we have to stay home and cook more often.

  • castello

    There is/was an oakmonster tshirt.

  • castello

    Murso knows it all 😉

  • TommyB

    USA! USA! QOTD! Rare to medium rare – please – don't overcook it; you overcook it its no good…. it defeits its own purpose… what are you doing your over cooking it! You call these carrots? I had no choice! I had no choice!

  • TommyB

    looks like most peeps like their steak medium rare…

  • TommyB

    It's a shame the good quality cabs and pinots from America rarely make it to the UK..

  • Mike in C-town

    I'm adding the Crocker & Starr to my wishlist.

    QOTD: medium rare filet.

  • johnfasc

    it was only a matter of time for that question.
    QOTD: black and blue – rare rare rare, dont force me to send it back!

  • love Cab

    I like my steak grilled rare with wasabi on the side but you should also taste the Crocker & Starr Cabernet Franc… velvet in a glass.

  • jason carey

    That is more like Syrah in appearance than Pinot Noir

  • jason carey

    Gary, why don't you re taste that Pinot in 4 days? and re-evaluate.

  • paulkochevar

    As a fitness professional I admit that sometimes my only workout for the day is raising heavy wine bottles too! Have gazed heavily at the BV on the shelf many times…may have to shift to the C&S instead…

    Never had steak Pittsburgh…but will be next time…so far Med Rare is the only way!

  • Did the food rock!?!? How about the wine!?!?

  • Neil

    QOTD: Medium Rare with some char – preferably with mesquite charcoal (not broiler). Sprinkle some grey salt on it like a pretzel. Yum.

  • Anonymous

    Oh yea. Tried the Anges 8 dollar French Cab from Garys show a week ago or so. Pretty damn good for the price very good. Probly won’t have a big steak till Sat or Sun.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, and bring 2 bottles and give the waiter/waitress a glass and you should be able to get a free desert for it. Butttt you gotta tip like P diddy.

  • Braden G

    wtf indeed…

  • Braden G

    Nice show – can't afford any of those wines though 🙂
    QOTD – Love my steak anywhere between rare and medium rare. If you don't like your steak with any trace of colour or moisture then eat chicken (or beef jerky).

  • Vacqueyras bouncing in my glass, heavy with fruit….

    Ready, for the next ep……

    Domaine La Bouïssiere 2007, 14,5 % alc. Oouuchh!

  • vinoreviews

    QOTD- depends on the cut prime rib rare, and filet medium, strip steak and most other cuts medium-rare and I am not a huge fan of the char.

    Speaking of Cabernet Sauv with the recent releases of many big name 2007 Cali Cabs I think it is time for Gary to do a blind tasting of 07 Cali Cabs.

  • Stephen

    QOTD: medium rare. However, I think rack of lamb is the meal that really cries out for a Cab or Bordeaux.

  • andresramos

    hey Gary been a while in the dark but when it comes to steak i just can't stay out..QOTD! Medium rare..

  • mikeyworld

    California Cabernet in Ireland is either REALLY cheap or REALLY expensive. Need a holiday.

    QOTD: bloody as hell.

    Another great show, have a top weekend G

  • drt999

    You're assuming there will actually be a difference!

  • Great Show Gary! I am new to this blog and enjoying it.

  • adrums

    Well, medium isn't really the middle though… Raw is on one end (and with a high quality cut, can be fantastic as in tartare or beef carpaccio), and well done on the other… rare-medium rare actually is the middle ground…

  • Now back to that Vacqueyras…. It's too much for me.

    Has some very dark fruits on the nose, a bit of bacon, tobacco leaf, very cassis-like. Almost like a reduction sauce, highly concentrated…. and for my palate, it gets too much in the long run. Don't get me wrong, it's a well made wine. Slightly one-dimensional. 86 p.

    Cheers anyhow! ; )

  • Enjoyed the show, always fun to hear about great wines.

    As for my steak, gotta be medium rare with a nice blackened crust. Wow, now I want a steak and a few glasses of wine…go figure.

    You win again 🙂

  • pawncop

    Very good episode. Appreciate the emphasis on the basics.

    QOTD – Medium to mild medium well.

  • poconnor

    Gary, Have you tried the Laurel Glen Estate Cab. Sauv. (Sonoma Mountain) 2004 yet?

  • mattgmann

    qotd; depends. Black and blue is good, especially with a huge porterhouse on an open flame. A few herbs and some nice olive oil to dress it.

    That's really more of a summer thing though. Right now I'd rather have a chicago style strip steak just north of rare. I've been experimenting with dry aging beef at home…..the results have been pretty awesome. I don't think I'll ever order a steak at a restaurant again.

  • Shootmenow

    QOTD: Alive 😉

  • Shootmenow

    I need to start an export Biz to the homeland. The cheap US stuff in Ireland is pretty poor…

  • Greg Fletcher

    Prefer my steaks medium rare. But the best steak I ever had was at a restaurant that no longer exists here in LA that was called Ma Maison. I asked a dinner partner what they had done to make it so exquisite. She said, “This is, like the essence of boiled-down cow. She guessed that they had put it into an oven at extremely high temperature (like 800 degrees) and left it there for a short time. Definetly not the kind of thing to try at home. I've never come across it again.

  • mattgmann

    that sounds intriguing. I'm planning to build a pizza/bread oven in my back yard this year with hopes of getting to ~900f. I might have to throw a steak in there and see what happens.

  • Sittin' here chillin' with some Stan Getz on the record player…. Body And Soul.. Oh Yeah!

  • billc87

    QOTD: Medium rare.

    What are the Jets thinking? Real loyalty there.

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