Great show and I appreciate the candor and honesty about the wines and the process.

I have been buying and laying wine down for five years and am now beginning to rotate that wine. It is fun to pull out bottles that have some age on them to pick out the secondary characteristics that come along with aging.

QTD: When it comes to a $40 drink me now bottle, I am not going to buy it. I will invest in a $40 lay me down bottle, but $40 for something I am going to drink right away is tough. I will stay in the $12 – $20 range for the everyday wine and pull out the old bottles when I want something a bit more complex.

Thanks again for a fun show.

Brian is a good guy, have liked his posts on other boards. It saddens me that when I have tried the wines in the past the wines were not my cup of tea and it doesn't really sound like his wines are going to be in the future anything that I want a part of due to palate differences.

QOTD: I prefer wines that have more of a mix of secondary characteristics and less over the top fruit “bombs” so generally I prefer wines aged at least 5 years from vintage or longer depending on quality and type. There are not too many wines that I enjoy right after purchasing and if I do open young then I find it showing better on day 2 or 3 depending on tannin level.

QOTD2: Love the screw tops or stelvin closure. Corks do have a nice niche, but who likes faulty wine?

picked up my three pack of ’08 Loring, looking forward to tasting! Did you have to deal w/ smoke damage at all like some other Sonoma and Mendocino winemakers in 08?

Great show! I'm completely agree with Brian, I rater pay a premium and drink my wine right away, besides who knows what's gonna happen tomorrow ? …lol
And screw caps are fine with me as long as the wine is young..

Gary, where are the freaking scores? Although, from your reaction and tasting notes, I think you liked these wines quite a bit.

QOTD: Great questions – I really think that I need to have a good amount of wines that can age in my cellar because I buy so darn much wine right now. There are tremendous bargains out there because of the depressed market/recession and I am lucky enough to be able to take advantage of them. I also like the way many wines evolve over time so I buy a lot of wine by the case or the 1/2 case and try the wines over a number of years. I don't think that I need my wines to last in the cellar for 20 years (although some do), but 10 years is a good benchmark for me. Finally, I like the taste of a lot of the aged wines – older Bordeaux, Burgundies, Rioja, Barolo, Brunello – they are a thing of beauty to me. So while I certainly like wines that I can drink today, I also love wines that have significant staying power in the cellar.

As for screw caps, I love them! I first started to run into them from producers like Garretson Wine Company in Paso and Tablas Creek. On the other hand, I think the TCA thing is overhyped. But as a fellow engineer, I get what Brian is saying about even a 2% failure rate, at least when it is feasible to have a near zero percent failure rate. I am still not sure about the long-term storage for certain wines under screw cap, but more and more data seems to imply exactly what Brian said – the wine DOES in fact still evolve under the screw cap. Even if it didn't, since the vast majority of wine that is for sale is meant to be consumed in the short term, there really is no reason that 75% or more of all wine shouldn't be under screw cap. Thanks for asking these questions – interesting stuff. Now I have to go sign up for the mailing list. 😉

Thanks, Brian! Double thanks for being honest about the 08 growing season. So annoying when vinters go on and on about how amazing each and every vintage is!

Dude great guest. He had a real passion for the winemaking as well as the business which I LOVED!! And I used to be like him too with that whole fruits and veggies thing. All I can say is this, mix it with something and it is the bomb. The only way I get my veggies now is by mixing in a pasta or meat loaf or something like that, and it is a kick ass and completely balanced meal. And use the fruit like a dessert or snack instead of candy and cookies. I'm telling you…it works. And I love the engineering references, I just graduated with a Civil Engineering degree and it so made me laugh at my nerdiness. Anyways…
Qotd: I like the lower price/less aging concept. If people didn't know about you or your style of wine it might hurt you, but I like the concept. And I like it too because if you do advertise it like that, it actually would increase sales with people like me, because I am a graduated ckc now and do not have a cellar. So I wouldn't buy the wines that have the age in a cellar for 5 to 10 years. As for corks to screw tops, it makes no difference to me. I don't buy wine by case (again ckc thing) so I don't have the issue of a corked wine so much. And, as I said above, I don't really cellar wines either, so the age thing doesn't matter either. I do like the engineering aspect you brought to it though, because corks shouldn't stay around just because its traditional to use corks.

QOTD: That's actually a great point. If I pay $40 your right, I should be able to drink it now instead of watching it sit in my wine fridge for 8 years..

QOTD2: Love screw caps.

Great show Garry! Tell Brian I love his honesty – it's the only way to go.

Corks: If I see a screw cap, I almost always think the winery is progressive and moving forward with the times and REALITY. Living in downtown Toronto, I will never be able to afford space for a cellar here. Maybe back home in Dalmatia, Croatia. So, the debate about the age worthiness of aluminum screw caps is no big deal. I think as education becomes more accessible (like what you're doing), old ideas will go out the window. ANYWAYS, love the screw caps. But, I obviously won't buy a worse wine over a better because of the screw cap. PLUS, I don't always finish the wine the same day. I like to refrigerate it for the night – screw cap TRUMPS here again.

Aging: I would pay a premium for wine that is ready to drink now. I don't have the space to store, so it's a given. I'm not paying a huge premium something legendary that I have to store (risk) and wait 5 to 10 years for. I'm just not there financially and I don't have the space. I love Scotch. I can appreciate the added cost of storing and aging at a winery. Hence, paying more for a product delivered to me ready to consume.

BTW, I've watched you for a long time now. I've finally come out from the shadows. One more lurker is out!

I recently saw ( KIDNAPPED! “Crush It!” author Gary Vaynerchuk sings Social Media! (1 of 2) ) on yourtube. I love it. I wish more companies/businesses realized that giving something for free and honesty drives business. After watching that youtube vid., I bought your book the next day.

Best of luck to you and Brian in all your future endeavors and FAMILY!!!!

Great guest it was a very fun episode. I know a couple artist that were not fully appreciated until after there deaths were. Otis Redding and Sublime.

Brian is a great guy! I have known him from his early winemaking days. I had to watch these episodes a couple of times, they were so much fun! QOTD – I am on board with instant gratification and screw caps!

Randy Savage-RIP. QOTD-still prefer a cork over screwcap, they are ok for Pinot’s or most whites since mainly they are consumed early. I like to drink a wine at what I hope is it’s peak so I age many better wines. http://www.winelx.com

92/100

line of the day, ‘It’s like children…you want them to have fun, but if you let them go too far they’ll end up like that kid screaming ‘shut up mommy’ in Toys R Us. The kid you want to pile drive’

Part two follows on from part one in highly entertaining fashion