EP 994 Tasting with Tim and Carrisa Mondavi from Continuum Part 2

The concluding part, including the tasting of the 2006 and 2008 Continuum with Tim and Carissa Mondavi. Gary, Tim, and Carissa speak more about the California wine business, vineyards, and winemaking.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Continuum
2008 Continuum

Links mentioned in todays episode.

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luca bercelli

80/100

Sorry, but this guest was without doubt the most boring person ever to appear on WLTV. A huge figure in the wine world but god, he could bore me to death, and all of the good information that he had was lost in his drab and domineering delivery. His daughter might well have been more entertaining and approachable, but unfortunately daddy didn’t let her say a word. Even GV tried to have his say half way through but pretty much gave up when Tim started droning on again and drowning him out. I didn’t think it would be possible to make such a great product sound so boring – but I was wrong. if he mentioned ‘stirring the lees’ once more I would’ve thrown my laptop out the window. Thank god this guest wasn’t on one of the early episodes because he would surely have put me off from watching and commenting on every single one, thus denying me hours and hours of tip top entertainment.

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  • ALLAN

    1st!

  • Anonymous

    alright….now lets see how these wines taste!

  • Anonymous

    3rd

  • Anonymous

    4th

  • Anonymous

    welp…didn’t get much from wine one. big? oaky maybe? not even a sly wink or funny face from G. We need to work out some sort of secret body language code G so we can tell what you are thinking.

  • ALLAN

    Tim seems on a misson..
    well Tim controlled this show………….
    SUPER INTERESTING! If the Mondavi’s hadn’t sold, I WOULD HAVE bought this wine.

    great stuff GV. Good Q’s from U. CLASSIC STUFF!! OHHH !!! Carissa Speaks!!! Hallelujah! Why was she there, U have to ask urself!! 😉

    Qotd: Doesn’t matter, DUDE!

    BUT, although I got a little over-agressive,,, This IS A CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Damn It! 😉

  • Anonymous

    agreed. classic episode. lots of good stuff spread through the hour. Tim in an intense guy and very confident in his business. I respect his honesty, and I get the feeling he’s the guy who corners you at a party and talks your ear off for hours. This episode was a test in patience, but definitely worth the time.

  • ALLAN

    Tim where’s the dirt under your nails, your obviously well spoken and all, but c’mon, man. Bob Mondavi knows.

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: I do value estate wines to a certain degree when I’m picking out a wine in that sometimes a it hints at a more terroir driven wine. It’s a fairly small consideration though. I do like to idea of producing a lower end wine as well. That doesn’t seem to be a trend at all in America compared to France where great CdP producers like Pegau put out a cheap but well made table wine as well (Plan Pegau). If it’s a $50 price tag though to get in on a glimpse of “the good stuff”, then forget about it.

  • Great stuff and FINALLY A FRIDAY SHOW!!! I really appreciated the concentration in the format. A lot of wine-talk and history were shared and I was almost taking notes!

    QOTD1: Single vineyards sites are of extreme importance when you are dealing with the upper echelon in wines. Sourcing the fruit and having an understanding of where the grapes are growing can tell you so much of what to expect in the wine.

    #2: Having a dedicated team is paramount in creating a great wine in any vintage, being able to understand what to do in cold/wet seasons or when to harvest in the HOT ones. Nothing beats knowledge.

    #3: I am just a baby in the wine world (as evinced by my wine blog) and cannot afford or justify the big time purchases of Continuum, so I would personally love the opportunity to buy into the lower and easier to afford levels of premium wine. I could see that going badly too with the market becoming watered down for less-than-stellar product but do not believe that would happen, judging by the professionalism and reputation of this family.

    Happy Friday!

  • Anonymous

    Top Tenish!

  • MattB

    Gary – great show. Very interesting to hear so much about the evolution of the Californian wine world and the huge contribution to it that the Mondavi’s made. Tim and Carissa seem like great people and are superb ambassadors for Continuum and their new project. Long but very interesting and educational.

    QOTD: To me having a strong estate for a premium wine is very important. If the wine is to truly represent the terroir of the estate’s vines and also develop a distinctive identity and taste profile it is a must. I grew up in Europe where I think this is far more common and so that could be why I feel this way. In the “post score era” that we are now entering (as Gary referenced during the interview) I think this is even more valuable. A wine is so much more than a score and having it come from a defined place made by a consistent team in a specific house style to me is what premium wine is all about. Each person can then develop their opinion of the estate and its wine. You may not like it, but at least it has an identity that people can get to know. I think a lower price point “second” wine makes excellent sense. Clearly, the grapes would need to come from the estate like the first wine and be superbly well made to reflect and protect the estate brand but I would definately do it once Continuum has matured sufficiently.

    Cheers!

  • QOTD: It makes sense for a wine of this type. But it’s not usually that important to me. I think the team is much more important. Someone has to make consistent quality.

    Thank you Mondavis, excellent information.

  • Well stated. I think that is what is stopping me from buying these iconic wines, knowing that between Italy and France I can have a 3:1 purchasing ratio between interesting old world wines against the high-priced collector wines in the US.

    With that said, I am still interested in trying Opus One.

  • Anonymous

    The 2 part show was awesome Gary. I learned so much from the two of these. Best way to hit 1000 is a week of good shows and you are doing it! 6 left!

    QOTD – I think that the heart and soul of a wine comes out when it is a one estate wine. It may not always taste better but wine isn’t just about taste. Wine is about relationships and experiences. Endeavoring to be a sigle estate is an adventure and I wish you well on your task!

  • Christiaan

    Again good part II, very intresting stuff. Glad to see Carissa speak (a little), Overall a Classic show doh. Keep on the good work and tnx for sharing this with us!

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: it is absolutely important that the wines are ESTATE. I mean if it isn’t, there is no sense of place. If your charging 150+ for a bottle i expect there to be terrior and a uniqueness to the wine. I mean i can go and buy a Leviathan which comes from all throughout Cali, and yes its fun and delicious, but if im shelling 150 bones i wanna know what exactly i am tasting and i expect a wine that is a little more on the “serious” side that is unmistakably Staggs Leap or Spring Mountain.

  • Anonymous

    The terroir and weather at Pritchard Hill sounds like Washington State, lol.

    These two episodes are the best shows ever for me, thank you for hosting the Mondavi family!!! Very interesting and informative. (this stuff is premium content!)

    qotd…love the estate concept if you have the location etc, ala Lafite…, otherwise it doesn’t make sense

  • Great interview! I love it when you have icons from the wine world on.

    Hey Gary, how about an episode of sparkling wines from outside europe? Like this one you just into WL?
    Hom Cava De Carmela Extra Brut Sparkling 750ML (http://tiny.cc/fm4kd)

  • Anonymous

    QOTD; All your eggs in one basket is a great thing.
    QOTD2; A great team makes for a great product, I wish I could try some.
    Gary plan a remote WLTV from the hilltop, might be a blast.

  • Anonymous

    PS. I am unsure how u are going to top this Gary V! But knowing you, you will for the 999 & 1000th episode. So i cant wait till then. This is gonna be Awesome!!!!!

  • Very informative and intriguing show esp with this iconic wine family. It was fun to watch Carissa’s quizzical look on her face at times when her Dad was speaking which piqued my interest even more.

    QOTD #1: When Tim interjected “these types of wines” then by all means a resounding “Yes” to the question about the importance of being a single estate. It doesn’t matter to me where the grapes come from for my every day quaffing wine but if I’m going to plonk down some serious cash then I want single estate, mis en boutielle if at all possible.

    QOTD #2: One would assume even the smallest wineries had a dedicated team. I had no clue (other than co-ops) that a particular site or winery did not already employ their own team. I knew that winemakers such as Helen Turley worked with numerous sites so I guess this is what Carissa was alluding to so to answer, yes, a dedicated team to control quality etc.

    Cheers!

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely! if you have it, use it! If not, dont try to BS me

  • Awesome show. I went to Mondavi in 2003 and had a good visit, even if it was organized as part of a tour. Nice to know the family is so down-to-earth and passionate about the final product.

    QOTD: I admire them for going with only one wine. Sometimes wineries spread themselves out too much and, hence, quality deteriorates. By focusing on one single wine, they can really put out the best product possible. I only wish I could find one of these bottles on The Rock.

  • Anonymous

    Gary V! Snifysix (aka Alex) just started a Vblog about a month ago so lets give him some love!

    PS he also reminded me that about a week ago i left a comment about the wines of Russel Bevan (episode #73) and low and behold you taste the Sauv Blanc 5 days latter. I would really be interesting in your reaction to his Reds!

  • Anonymous

    Ok, great stuff. Tim is a bit talkative, but he’s clearly a true intellectual with spiritual passion for the subject, in addition to a redonkulous trove of knowledge.
    QOTD: Yes… Basically, if/when I spend more than 35 bucks on a wine, I want to know that it was lovingly, carefully crafted by someone(s) trying to make a) the very best wine they can make, and b) a wine which could only have come from its site, and nowhere else.
    Best of luck to the family and their new(ish) venture.

  • Anonymous

    Great discussion.
    QOTD: My wife only looks to drink wine from single vineyard estates. And a dedicated team to that vineyard is paramount…especially at this price point. The hand crafted passionate story behind wines/winerys like these, is as much fun as tasting them.

  • Anonymous

    Decisions, decisions: 150 bones for one bottle of Continuum “Art” wine or three top-flight Brunellos. Hmmm

  • Anonymous

    How about a special deal for the Vayniacs? Great show!
    QOTD: Whatever it takes to make the best wine you can.

  • QOTD#1: To me, “estate” means nothing to me. I want the best wine, and don’t really care about a single estate.

  • PArt 2 did not disappoint… As I said yesterday, Tim is well spoken… and I must say, I don’t know why Carissa was there… she seemed to be ‘learning’ as we were as Tim was speaking, and she had very little to contribute…

    QOTD: I believe in what the are doing as an ‘Estate’ and all the it entails… that said, the wine must bring the THUNDER at this price point.. and although you didn’t score, I’m going assume that it did…

  • Anonymous

    SCORES????

  • too much cocksure talking from tim. his daughter couldn’t even get a word in

  • Anonymous

    GV Thank You, Thank You. I’ve been hooked on Mondavi since my first taste of the 87 Reserve Cab. To me Tim Mondavi is a wine god. To be able to listen to him for an hour was priceless to me. IMHO the best show ever on WLTV.

    QOTD: I don’t think it’s silly to produce such a great wine at that price point. Especially when it is made by Tim. That being said, I can’t afford it. I’ve bought many a first growth Bordeaux, back in the day. But now it’s their second wines for me, even thirds “Paulliac by Latour”.
    Tim, please make a second wine.

  • Anonymous

    Looooong couple of shows, but very interesting.

    QOTD: Well, like Mr. Mondavi said, it matters on certain types of wine.

    Prime example, over the last couple months I have gotten a couple different Petit Syrahs, from wine.woot. Both are excellent, but couldn’t be any more different.

    First one was Stillman Brown’s Black Zepplin, bombastic fruity tannic juice in a cool package with a screwcap. Hell of a great wine drinking buddies wine. I love Stillman, he’s such a cool dude, brash and kinda crazy, my kind of dude, I want to hang out with him. Well if you know about him, you know that he doesn’t have a winery of his own, he contracts grapes, juice and space to make his product. I see certain upsides to that, he can always pick the best of what he wants, and put together a product exactly as he desires every year.

    On the other hand, Kent Rasmussen’s Petit Syrah effort is a very stately serious effort. It is the type of wine you’d want to wear a tie to the table with. Those wines are estate grown, or at least bought from vineyards with long term contracts. Even the labels show a huge difference in the wines, Zepplin is rock and roll, playful, Rasmussen is stark and stately. I think I’ve gone on long enough, but I guess my point is, for me, there is room for both worlds for my palette.

  • Anonymous

    Great show…. Respect to the Mondavi’s……. They have earned it!

  • Anonymous

    qotd… I do feel, as a hobby wine grower myself, that estate wine offer SO much more in that you get the truest since of the fruit and ultimately the wines that are offered. Great 2 part ep, G. Thank you
    my question to you..you briefly mentioned wine APPS… what’s your fav wine APP?

  • QOTD: Price and product. I don’t care if the wine is grown on a roof top in the Bronx. If it’s a good wine at a good price I’ll buy it. All single vineyard or estate says to me is that I’ll can charge outrageously more.

  • I’ll make a deal. You buy the Brunellos and I’ll buy 4 bottles of sparking and 5 bottles of vinho verde and let’s throw a party. 😛

  • Anonymous

    A very interesting show.

    I am of two thoughts on the estate wines. Ideally I think that an estate wine is the optimal expression of wine–allowing the grape, terroir and the wine makers skill to shine, or stink. Drinking such wines allows us to taste and appreciate the subtle differences and appreciate the specifics of that place. Unfortunately, in order to do such small scale production usually leads to a much higher price. It seems that estate wines are set the standards that then will influence the more generic varietals that most of us will drink.

  • Anonymous

    QOTD 1 — even in my price ranges, it’s preferable
    2 — too much to learn over many estates
    3 — sounds good!

    good show!

  • Neil McNamara

    I like the direction Continuum is going. Mondavi (the brand) got too diluted with wines that tasted like mass produced beverages – no doubt great for profit margins but sacraficing the quality of the brand. Regarding “estate”, I think that estate wines can be more evocative of the vineyard and winemaker that, in turn, create wines of more distinct character. Granted “estate” and “Napa” typically means $100 + per bottle on the low end but you get what you pay for. Overall, great interview.

  • Drinking Les Remparts des Ceps Dorés 2009 (80% grenache and 20% syrah)and watching this episode. Pairing the wine with Basset´s licorice candy, good combo.
    I wish I lived in a country that could grew syrah. I would work the land, the vines, the process and I still wouldn’t sell for 140 bones. That is a little to steep for a drinking wine. For a investment it might be good, but that, only time can tell.
    Going for a Bordeuax blend Tim? Oak fermenters, oak storage 200% new?
    Doing philosophical with the wine? I might be philosophical drinking wine 🙂
    Hmm appointment, can I book october 2th and not pay for tasting?
    QOTD: That is a american question, isn’t it? A majority of wineyards in the world are one or two wines. I’d say, do your craft and focus on your strenghts and always remember to thank you the customer.

  • seldom score when guests are on, if it is the guest wine…..

  • I’ll go for the three 04’s at 50 a pop.

  • Part II rocked…I love hearing about recollections and interpretations of US wine history, especially from the Mondavis’ point of view. Would love to taste Continuum for sure.

    QOTD1: For me, since I have had the primary goal of palette exploration, estate wines rarely will be the key factor in wine selection, but as mentioned previously by Matt and DinoJr, I agree on a terroir perspective that it is very important.

    QOTD2: Your team in any business is important. They must be passionate about the industry, your company, and the products or services provided. I would bet that the local people would have developed a keen relationship with the land and the vines.

  • duh!, you buy the beer 😉 I buy the verde and greco…

  • Anonymous

    But, won’t the “best wine” have plenty of site specific character. (The Grand Ciel vineyard, for instance.)
    I suppose that’s more important than the Estate designation…

  • NY Pete

    hey hey

  • Christiaan

    I agree.

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