EP 386 Wild White Wines

Gary Vaynerchuk always says that white wines are dissed and deserve so much more credit for what they bring to the table! Gary today attacks some of the cooler whites in the shop!

Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Venge Family Bianco SpettroNapa Other White Wine
2006 Palmina Tocai FriulanoOther California White Wine
2006 St. Cosme Cotes Du Rhone BlancCotes du Rhone Blanc

Links mentioned in todays episode.

Cheese mentioned in todays episode.

  • Tomme Au Marc Jura Brandy

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John__J

qotd: U.S. wine laws, I can't figure out what the hell is wrong with the legislator's when it comes to shipping, especially in the 13 states where it's completely prohibited. Although one problem I saw in MD when I testified this past year before the sub-committee was that some representatives literally slept during the hearing right in front of people, while others would use their cell phone or get up and just walk out of the room missing entire testimonies!

Great episode Gary!
I'm always amused when I tell someone or hear someone find out there's some white wines out there that will age 100+ years, and they show disbelief.
I've had Cotes Du Rhone reds, white, and rose.
I've had Venge's Scouts Honor before, I had to bring it in to taste when I saw it was a blend of petite sirah, charbono, and zin. A good wine but a little overpriced I thought. I'd love to see a petite sirah, charbono, petite verdot blend.

Tags: Blanc, california, cheese, Cotes Du Rhone, food-friendly, napa, review, Video, white, wine, wines

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  • Kevin C

    Kickin’ the old school wristband…Niiice! Don’t know if I’ve tried a CdR Blanc, something else to add to the list.

    QOTD: Finding a wine that I really like, that my wife will also enjoy. Hate to open a nice bottle and feel like half of it may go to waste cuz no one to share it with

  • Kevin C

    Kickin’ the old school wristband…Niiice! Don’t know if I’ve tried a CdR Blanc, something else to add to the list.

    QOTD: Finding a wine that I really like, that my wife will also enjoy. Hate to open a nice bottle and feel like half of it may go to waste cuz no one to share it with

  • wannaBconnoisseur

    Fun show GV!

    Q- Often have trouble verbalizing what I am smelling and tasting. Also, French wine laws and regions can be a bit confusing at times……not a surprise, the French being a pain in the ass, it’s what they do!

  • wannaBconnoisseur

    Fun show GV!

    Q- Often have trouble verbalizing what I am smelling and tasting. Also, French wine laws and regions can be a bit confusing at times……not a surprise, the French being a pain in the ass, it’s what they do!

  • Dan-o

    GV – good show! I am a huge fan of whites for some of the same reasons you mention – the aromatics, the crispness, the variety.

    I am pumped about the March 22 event and I hope to make my first trek to the shop.

    The thing that confizzles me about wine is that I am a bit aromatically challenged. I have a very good nose for distinguishing off scents in wine – I can detect a corked bottle with one sniff – however, I marvel at folks like you that can give a profile of the different components of the aroma – peaches, strawberries, leather, etc. It usually takes someone to say – I smell yada yada – and then I get in tune.

  • Dan-o

    GV – good show! I am a huge fan of whites for some of the same reasons you mention – the aromatics, the crispness, the variety.

    I am pumped about the March 22 event and I hope to make my first trek to the shop.

    The thing that confizzles me about wine is that I am a bit aromatically challenged. I have a very good nose for distinguishing off scents in wine – I can detect a corked bottle with one sniff – however, I marvel at folks like you that can give a profile of the different components of the aroma – peaches, strawberries, leather, etc. It usually takes someone to say – I smell yada yada – and then I get in tune.

  • http://bugga.net/ malliemcg

    I’ve had a Cote du Rhone Blanc before – only once it was a $6AUD bottle a few years ago and was extremely enjoyable, but of course not findable again (this was pre-wine interest for me :).

    I do have a preference for Red’s however – I enjoy the more in your face-iness than the subtleness of whites. Still not finding very many Sauv-Blanc’s that I enjoy around 2% of them I try I can enjoy/drink.

    QOTD: The most confusing thing to me would have to be trying to find a reputable decent supplier for my wines. It’s confusing to try and pick a wine that’s as wonderful as one I loved in previous vintages – so much to research. Oh well time to drink more!

  • http://bugga.net/ malliemcg

    I’ve had a Cote du Rhone Blanc before – only once it was a $6AUD bottle a few years ago and was extremely enjoyable, but of course not findable again (this was pre-wine interest for me :\).

    I do have a preference for Red’s however – I enjoy the more in your face-iness than the subtleness of whites. Still not finding very many Sauv-Blanc’s that I enjoy around 2% of them I try I can enjoy/drink.

    QOTD: The most confusing thing to me would have to be trying to find a reputable decent supplier for my wines. It’s confusing to try and pick a wine that’s as wonderful as one I loved in previous vintages – so much to research. Oh well time to drink more!

  • Keith Brown

    Wow, I just went out and got the Saint Cosme. Sometimes I feel like a sheep when I run out and buy the stuff Gary reviews, not necessarily the brand, but the varietal, etc… I feel like the guys at the wine shop are secretly going “Uh huh…there goes another one of THEM…” LOL. Anyway, it’s not so much to be a sheep, but to find out how my palate compares, or differs, from someone who tastes zillions of wines, and also to educate: Hmmm, what do “sweaty socks” taste like?? In wine, I ain’t doing the real thing, sorry! Anyway, this wine blew me away. I’m a neophyte, but it is by far the most complex white wine I’ve ever tasted. Now I know I’ve been missing a WHOLE lot… BTW, I’m drinking it with some Cacio al Tartufo cheese and a cheeseburger and fries. QOTD: how do I deal with so much wine, so little time and money?? Frustrating…

  • Keith Brown

    Wow, I just went out and got the Saint Cosme. Sometimes I feel like a sheep when I run out and buy the stuff Gary reviews, not necessarily the brand, but the varietal, etc… I feel like the guys at the wine shop are secretly going “Uh huh…there goes another one of THEM…” LOL. Anyway, it’s not so much to be a sheep, but to find out how my palate compares, or differs, from someone who tastes zillions of wines, and also to educate: Hmmm, what do “sweaty socks” taste like?? In wine, I ain’t doing the real thing, sorry! Anyway, this wine blew me away. I’m a neophyte, but it is by far the most complex white wine I’ve ever tasted. Now I know I’ve been missing a WHOLE lot… BTW, I’m drinking it with some Cacio al Tartufo cheese and a cheeseburger and fries. QOTD: how do I deal with so much wine, so little time and money?? Frustrating…

  • Josh in Burgundy

    QOTD: Funding plain and simple. I live in Burgundy and therefore dont have a lot of money because I am always spending it to taste the amazing wines of this area. Had an amazing St. Romain blanc last night, 2002, just beautiful.

  • Josh in Burgundy

    QOTD: Funding plain and simple. I live in Burgundy and therefore dont have a lot of money because I am always spending it to taste the amazing wines of this area. Had an amazing St. Romain blanc last night, 2002, just beautiful.

  • http://kathleenlisson.blogspot.com/ Kathleen Lisson

    GV, there is always a lot left to learn! I wish there could be a solid standard for QPR. Is a great wine at 40 dollars a nice find and a great wine at 15 dollars a screaming deal? I feel like if a wine is ‘rated’ 89 points and it is $40 then it’s not worth it, when there are several 90 point wines in the 20 dollar range.
    Kathleen Lisson

  • http://kathleenlisson.blogspot.com Kathleen Lisson

    GV, there is always a lot left to learn! I wish there could be a solid standard for QPR. Is a great wine at 40 dollars a nice find and a great wine at 15 dollars a screaming deal? I feel like if a wine is ‘rated’ 89 points and it is $40 then it’s not worth it, when there are several 90 point wines in the 20 dollar range.
    Kathleen Lisson

  • http://hungryliketheduck.blogspot.com/ ChezJosh

    Most confusing: The popularity of cheap kosher “wine” (extra syrupy, of course) and Beaujolais Nouveau. Sugar-added grape juice from concentrate is way cheaper, so quit trying to fool yourselves people!

  • http://hungryliketheduck.blogspot.com/ ChezJosh

    Most confusing: The popularity of cheap kosher “wine” (extra syrupy, of course) and Beaujolais Nouveau. Sugar-added grape juice from concentrate is way cheaper, so quit trying to fool yourselves people!

  • DWB

    french wine labeling… your observation about under-appreciated white rhones is to the point. Were I to see such a wine even right now after this episode, I wouldn’t know what varietals it included to know what style I might expect. I could get off my butt and learn the styles that go with each region, or I could keep buying wines with labels that actually provide me with useful info….

  • DWB

    french wine labeling… your observation about under-appreciated white rhones is to the point. Were I to see such a wine even right now after this episode, I wouldn’t know what varietals it included to know what style I might expect. I could get off my butt and learn the styles that go with each region, or I could keep buying wines with labels that actually provide me with useful info….

  • Tony Rutigliano

    Gary,

    That St. Cosme white rhone is incredibly good. My wife and I are head over heels for it. What complex flavors and great mouth feel for not much dinero.

    Your shows are getting better and better. I’m not sure if i like more the ones in which you taste a wide variety of wines or concentrate on a particulary varietal. Thanks for the show about the sagrantinos. They are hidden gems. I just ordered 2 bottles of the Martinelli and can’t wait to try it.

    All the best.

  • Tony Rutigliano

    Gary,

    That St. Cosme white rhone is incredibly good. My wife and I are head over heels for it. What complex flavors and great mouth feel for not much dinero.

    Your shows are getting better and better. I’m not sure if i like more the ones in which you taste a wide variety of wines or concentrate on a particulary varietal. Thanks for the show about the sagrantinos. They are hidden gems. I just ordered 2 bottles of the Martinelli and can’t wait to try it.

    All the best.

  • Ben

    Belated QOTD (post numba two! in descending order): The names!

    For the love of god THE NAMES, THE NAMES!!! (the horror, the horror!!)

    I am honestly in love with the English language, but I can’t stand anything else. Itallion, Spanish, French? I absolutely cannot stand the pronunciation or the reading. I MEAN COME ON PEOPLE. Beers are labeled efficiently and simplemindedly. Wine, on the other hand, I can’t physically remember all the random ass pre-world war 2 names. I mean JESUS.

    I know Sam Adams, I know Corona Extra, I Don’t (for the love of god) know some random “traditional” institutional Itallion name. I actually like the Australian wines better because I under-fucking-stand them. Meh.

    I like wine. I LOVE win. I just can’t stand the stupid naming-distinctions that separate the Itallion from the ass-crack.

    -Ben

  • Ben

    Belated QOTD (post numba two! in descending order): The names!

    For the love of god THE NAMES, THE NAMES!!! (the horror, the horror!!)

    I am honestly in love with the English language, but I can’t stand anything else. Itallion, Spanish, French? I absolutely cannot stand the pronunciation or the reading. I MEAN COME ON PEOPLE. Beers are labeled efficiently and simplemindedly. Wine, on the other hand, I can’t physically remember all the random ass pre-world war 2 names. I mean JESUS.

    I know Sam Adams, I know Corona Extra, I Don’t (for the love of god) know some random “traditional” institutional Itallion name. I actually like the Australian wines better because I under-fucking-stand them. Meh.

    I like wine. I LOVE win. I just can’t stand the stupid naming-distinctions that separate the Itallion from the ass-crack.

    -Ben

  • dank

    just popped the St. Cosme Blanc and you’re spot on with the viscosity and the rubber ball and olive oil. pretty awesome for a “newbie”.. coats your tongue for days.

  • dank

    just popped the St. Cosme Blanc and you’re spot on with the viscosity and the rubber ball and olive oil. pretty awesome for a “newbie”.. coats your tongue for days.

  • http://kierajean.blogspot.com/ ValerieM

    QOTD: The most confusing thing for me is all the different types. I am so use to Merlot, Cab.Sauv., and Chardonnay, but the rest are new to me.

  • http://kierajean.blogspot.com/ ValerieM

    QOTD: The most confusing thing for me is all the different types. I am so use to Merlot, Cab.Sauv., and Chardonnay, but the rest are new to me.

  • Dessert Wine Nerd

    I love whites! I dont have enough from around the world, but I DIG me some white wines. QOTD: Def. the labels. Thankfully “The Wine Bible” by Karen MacNeil clears up any confusion I have with labels from Italy, Germany, etc.

  • Dessert Wine Nerd

    I love whites! I dont have enough from around the world, but I DIG me some white wines. QOTD: Def. the labels. Thankfully “The Wine Bible” by Karen MacNeil clears up any confusion I have with labels from Italy, Germany, etc.

  • richardvinifera

    QOTD: Labelling in the old world, particularly France!

  • richardvinifera

    QOTD: Labelling in the old world, particularly France!

  • mjr

    HI.

  • mjr

    HI.

  • markslatt

    Hi

  • corkscrew

    Had a Palmina wine…it was horrible…. QOTD-foreign wine labels http://www.winelx.com

  • John__J

    qotd: U.S. wine laws, I can't figure out what the hell is wrong with the legislator's when it comes to shipping, especially in the 13 states where it's completely prohibited. Although one problem I saw in MD when I testified this past year before the sub-committee was that some representatives literally slept during the hearing right in front of people, while others would use their cell phone or get up and just walk out of the room missing entire testimonies!

    Great episode Gary!
    I'm always amused when I tell someone or hear someone find out there's some white wines out there that will age 100+ years, and they show disbelief.
    I've had Cotes Du Rhone reds, white, and rose.
    I've had Venge's Scouts Honor before, I had to bring it in to taste when I saw it was a blend of petite sirah, charbono, and zin. A good wine but a little overpriced I thought. I'd love to see a petite sirah, charbono, petite verdot blend.

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