2004 Vintage Bordeaux, A Timing Thing - Episode #414

February 22, 2008

We are going with Intense Friday instead of laid back Friday because I think there is a real opportunity to learn and exploit a huge oppertunity and I want to make sure all the Vayniacs out there have a chance to score!

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  • “Gary I just had the Sansonnet. I agree with you scorewise but not rega…” by Valentin
  • “Hey Gary,
    Another great episode ! I love Bordeaux and appreciate ever…” by Martin
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Wines tasted in this episode:

2004 Chateau Clos De L’oratoireSt Emilion play review at cork'd
2004 Chateau Haut BrissonSt Emilion play review at cork'd
2004 Clos Les LunellesOther Red Bordeaux play review at cork'd
2004 Chat CanonSt Emilion play review at cork'd
2004 Chateau Leoville Las CasesSt Julien play review at cork'd

Links mentioned in todays episode.

289 Responses

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  1. about 3 weeks ago

    Valentin

    Gary I just had the Sansonnet. I agree with you scorewise but not regarding your tasting notes. It is lacking of any fruit but it is dense and even though the alcohol content is 13.5% you cannot feel it. The predominant flavour and bouquet is pine-wood. A good wine but overpriced.

  2. about 4 months ago

    Martin

    Hey Gary,
    Another great episode ! I love Bordeaux and appreciate every time that you are tasting these great wines.
    I was very excited seeing you tasting Leoville Las Cases 2004 because I also have 3 bottles of this one waiting in my cellar…a pity I will still have to wait a couple of years before opening it.

  3. about 4 months ago

    MtnCharlie

    QOTD: I second the comment about having kids. They are 9 and 12 now, but at the time I was really unsure. There is never “the right time”. They are the most rewarding part of my life.

    Another thing was buying a house in CA 18 years ago. At the time I thought we were nuts…

  4. about 4 months ago

    Surekat

    that was brilliant! we got several bordeaux wines (an ‘04 amongst them) and really enjoyed them.

    QOTD: deciding to have kids NOW, because there’s no such thing as “the right time”.

  5. about 4 months ago

    Cuse Wino

    Too many tomato juice references for me.

    I am not in a buying stage right now so I am going to have to mooch off friends in a few years and tell them just how smart they were to listen to GV!!!!!

  6. about 4 months ago

    Quinn

    The selection of “value” Bordeaux isn’t all that exciting in Ontario, Canada, but this episode made me realize I need to crack that $15 price limit (I’m CKC) and try something just a little more expensive from one of the great regions.

    Also, I watch on iTunes, and often don’t comment because I can’t be bothered to go over to WLTV, find the correct show, and then leave a comment. I have seen Macbreak video embed links into the Quicktime, I haven’t a clue how difficult this is, but it sure would make me leave more comments.

  7. about 4 months ago

    Jørn Idar

    QOTD; My macbook, started using iTunes, found podcastes, and found The Thunder Show!

  8. about 4 months ago

    Tom Purvenas

    So your trying to make me buy more French wine again as the dollar tanks against the Euro. I get the idea that the value will hold up as the market gets more crowded, and cellaring for later will be greatly appreciated as I look back on my fabulous buys of ’04s way back in 2008.

    Wow that sounds really stuffy….LOL

  9. about 4 months ago

    Josh in Burgundy

    QOTD: My gut feeling purchase was the 2005 Ridge Santa Cruz mountains Chardonnay before it got blown up by Wine Spectator. I cant wait to have a bottle of it.

  10. about 4 months ago

    Metal Dave

    Hey - great to see some good Bdx!! First post in months. I reently bought a new TV. One of those lcd ones. Totally on a whim. Ididn’t research it a bit and ended up with a sweet tv with a very high spec. Usually I thouroughly research a purchase such as this, but i really landed on my feet!!

    For the opposite: I had decided to get ONE case of BDX after Christmas. After a looong deliberation, I got the 2004 Leoville Poyferre. Still stoked about that. Or at least I will be when I open my first bottle in 2022…

  11. about 4 months ago

    GR8wine

    Hey GV,
    Nice show. I hadn’t started specifically seeking out ‘04 Bordeaux’s but now I will. Unfortunate that most of these wines, even the $28 bones, are out of my price range and I lament that having access to world class Bordeaux wines is becoming a class thing and a privilege for the wealthy. As for my best gut purchase; my ‘96 Harley Road King! - it played a large role in my involvement in wine (I’ll explain in person).

  12. about 4 months ago

    vibemore

    I have no idea on the gut purchase thing…I just wish I had some cash to throw into Bordeaux…which I don’t.

  13. about 4 months ago

    pawncop

    QOTD - Definitely not a wine purchase but had an opportunity to buy a legendary handgun several years back, a Browning Hi Power in 40 caliber. May not mean to you but this is a gun I have wanted for a long time and got it one day when I went in visit my friend who is a gun dealer. Made me a good price and I bought it on the spot.

  14. about 4 months ago

    ChezJosh

    Gut feeling - I just bought rockband and I couldn’t be happier with my decision. How lame is that?

  15. about 4 months ago

    Cyn

    QOTD: saying “yes” to my hubs of 10 years. There were a whole lot of people asking “Why”, but we just followed our hearts (and I followed my gut). I’m not saying it’s been easy as pie, but it’s definitely been one hell of ride! :-)

  16. about 4 months ago

    john ripperger

    Great question Gary. My biggest gut-feel purchase happened this year at your place when I bought a case of 2005 La Mission Haut Brion futures from you. I won’t say how much I paid but it was expensive relative to what I normally buy. The reason I bought it is because the Pessac Leognan is really oustanding that year (maybe best ever?) and given what first growths are going for from that year, I felt it was undervalued. I guess we’ll see what happens, eh?

  17. about 4 months ago

    Ryan

    Good: picked up a bottle of Glendronach 1968 when I was visiting my brother in Ohio. Only 20% of what it is being sold for out here in LA

    But even better: I met a girl who was on a business trip, I had a feeling I should get her number and two years later I proposed.

  18. about 4 months ago

    Sev

    Amazing show as always. I have had a few 2004 Bordeaux, and truly enjoyed.

    QOTD: Just recently I bought a $45 Gewurztraminer from Alto Adige that I just really believed I needed to try. I haven’t opened it yet, so can’t say if that was a good gut feeling!

  19. about 4 months ago

    Mike Z in SD

    QOTD: Best gut purchase? I bought a copy of the movie “The Big Lebowski” once when I saw it in the store, even though I didn’t know much about it. Now it’s one of my favorites, and one of those rare films you can watch multiple times without getting sick of it… in fact, it only gets funnier.

    Wine-related gut purchase? Probably the 2001’s I bought, which included the Pape Clement.

  20. about 4 months ago

    alfredhayes

    QOTD: The best gut feeling that I have had was when my wife I and decided to purchase our first house.

    I just sat down for an hour and watched your shows…

  21. about 4 months ago

    ValerieM

    QOTD: Best gut feeling…knowing I was pregnant.

  22. about 4 months ago

    John W. Taylor

    My best wine deal will probably be the 2004 wine futures I bought 18 months ago. My best financial deal would be my house which I bought 12 years ago and has doubled in value. I have only 3 more years to go and it will be completly paid for; not bad considering that I will not be retiring for at least 25 more years.

  23. about 4 months ago

    JeffC

    Hey, picked up some 2004’s during your post holiday super sale. Those were good purchases I must say. Great show Gman.

  24. about 4 months ago

    Paul Horan

    Jumping on that Haut-Brisson as we speak!

    QOTD: Best “gut feel” purchase? Marvel Comics stock (MVL). Bought a ton at a buck-sixty back in 2001. Nothing like a 2,000% return on investment, I always say!

    Paul in VA

  25. about 4 months ago

    wayno da wino

    Yo Gee…..What do Ya mean “Wine ain’t a necessity”………
    WHAAAAAAAT?????…….. :)
    FAAAAAANTAAAAASTIC Episode !!!!! Ya got me cravin’ Bordeaux,
    Big Time!!! Thaaank Yoooou, Gee !!!!

    QOTD: Best gut-feel purchase??…..i’m comin’ up blank…….
    Now, Worst gut-feel purchase…..got a lot of dhose……. :)

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