EP 629 Talking Biodynamics with Nicolas Joly – Part II

Gary Vaynerchuk and Nicolas Joly continue their discussion about wine philosophy while tasting 2 more intriguing Chenin Blancs.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2004 Nicholas Joly Clos de la Coulee de Serrant
2005 Nicolas Joly Clos de la Bergerie

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Luca Bercelli

93/100

line of the day – ‘Mott, zoom in on this guy over here…he’s like a puppet master’

Fantastic guest and two superb episodes. Gary actually overshadowed for probably the only time ever

Tags: chenin blanc, France, guests, review, Video, white, wine, wines

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  • Alex

    QOTD: I do enjoy the wines I drink but Mr Joly has a very good point that the emotional, life changing, passionate experiences in wine are very few and far between. I’ve had the opportunity to try some biodynamic wines and they definitely strike that emotional cord. Benziger, a sonoma biodynamic winery definitely does a good job of striking that emotional cord for me.

    I have a question though … what does the biodynamic process do for bottle aging in perfect conditions?

    Mr Joly was an amazing charismatic guest … we need him on the thundershow again!

  • Alex

    QOTD: I do enjoy the wines I drink but Mr Joly has a very good point that the emotional, life changing, passionate experiences in wine are very few and far between. I’ve had the opportunity to try some biodynamic wines and they definitely strike that emotional cord. Benziger, a sonoma biodynamic winery definitely does a good job of striking that emotional cord for me.

    I have a question though … what does the biodynamic process do for bottle aging in perfect conditions?

    Mr Joly was an amazing charismatic guest … we need him on the thundershow again!

  • Seanie “B”

    Nicholas Joly, wow fantastic guest. Such a passionate guy. I’m in the field of medical science and they way that Nicholas talks about his work reminds me of a research scientist who is studding the finite principals of a complicated mechanism. He is astonished by the dynamism of this system and memorized by the symphonic beauty which is created by the undeniable power that nature holds. He shares his finding and experiences with a profoundly honest belief that that comes from deep within his heart and psyche.

    This was a extremely passionate set of episodes. It was a pleasure to listen to someone of Nicholas Joly’s caliber talk with you about wine!

  • Seanie “B”

    Nicholas Joly, wow fantastic guest. Such a passionate guy. I’m in the field of medical science and they way that Nicholas talks about his work reminds me of a research scientist who is studding the finite principals of a complicated mechanism. He is astonished by the dynamism of this system and memorized by the symphonic beauty which is created by the undeniable power that nature holds. He shares his finding and experiences with a profoundly honest belief that that comes from deep within his heart and psyche.

    This was a extremely passionate set of episodes. It was a pleasure to listen to someone of Nicholas Joly’s caliber talk with you about wine!

  • stevo

    GV — One of the best shows you’ve ever had, if not the best.

    QOTD — I am happy with around 50% of the wine that I drink.

  • stevo

    GV — One of the best shows you’ve ever had, if not the best.

    QOTD — I am happy with around 50% of the wine that I drink.

  • http://www.oldsoulsound.com/ Jeff Lonigro

    These episodes were absolutely amazing. I love this guy! His passion for wine, and his approach to making it along with his approach to life are so inspiring. We need more people like him in the world.
    Great job Gary!

  • http://www.oldsoulsound.com Jeff Lonigro

    These episodes were absolutely amazing. I love this guy! His passion for wine, and his approach to making it along with his approach to life are so inspiring. We need more people like him in the world.
    Great job Gary!

  • JayZee

    Very interesting show, although I don’t agree with everything he stated.

    QOTD: I am very happy with most of the wine I drink, and most of it is not biodynamic. I have no objection to biodynamic wines at all, but there are a lot of wonderful wines that I have had over the years that are definitely not biodynamic.

  • JayZee

    Very interesting show, although I don’t agree with everything he stated.

    QOTD: I am very happy with most of the wine I drink, and most of it is not biodynamic. I have no objection to biodynamic wines at all, but there are a lot of wonderful wines that I have had over the years that are definitely not biodynamic.

  • Russ J

    I think that the obvious candidate for the BD “wine chug” experiment is Sasha Vaynerchuk. Man can pound. I recall him polishing off like 4 glasses, or more, of wine (no spitting) in an 18 minute show!

    QOTD: Sometimes.

  • Russ J

    I think that the obvious candidate for the BD “wine chug” experiment is Sasha Vaynerchuk. Man can pound. I recall him polishing off like 4 glasses, or more, of wine (no spitting) in an 18 minute show!

    QOTD: Sometimes.

  • Dessert Wine Nerd

    Wow. Nicolas Joly gets my vote for the most interesting and fun guest youve ever had on the show. With all his laughing and whatnot I was guessing the two of you hit the sauce BEFORE filming. Either way I dont know that youve had a guest that seems more passionate about wine than him. Truly a person we need to keep around as long as possible. QOTD: The last two wines ive had tasted spoiled/corked, which is a shame. Im still quite happy with the wines I select.

  • Dessert Wine Nerd

    Wow. Nicolas Joly gets my vote for the most interesting and fun guest youve ever had on the show. With all his laughing and whatnot I was guessing the two of you hit the sauce BEFORE filming. Either way I dont know that youve had a guest that seems more passionate about wine than him. Truly a person we need to keep around as long as possible. QOTD: The last two wines ive had tasted spoiled/corked, which is a shame. Im still quite happy with the wines I select.

  • Karli

    I’ve been putting this two part episode off until I sat down to work on my biodynamic wine paper, and I must say, Nicholas Joly shows such great passion for his work that I now have a great excitement to work on my research. It was wonderful to see that the points you always fight for on this show were also what he fights for when supporting biodynamic wines and it was wonderful. More than anything, this episode put life into a scientific and philosophic matter with great power! Joly was a great guest on the show, and I hope you may have him on again at a later time!

    QOTD: I can’t say Cornell’s Intro to Wines and Vines Class is filled with incredible wines, but the experience of flavors and smells of wild ranges do make me happy. And since I am under the drinking age and not many people I know drink wine at school, I haven’t had much experience out of class and away from home, but do hope in time that I can experience more delectable wines that will truly express the flavor of nature.

  • Karli

    I’ve been putting this two part episode off until I sat down to work on my biodynamic wine paper, and I must say, Nicholas Joly shows such great passion for his work that I now have a great excitement to work on my research. It was wonderful to see that the points you always fight for on this show were also what he fights for when supporting biodynamic wines and it was wonderful. More than anything, this episode put life into a scientific and philosophic matter with great power! Joly was a great guest on the show, and I hope you may have him on again at a later time!

    QOTD: I can’t say Cornell’s Intro to Wines and Vines Class is filled with incredible wines, but the experience of flavors and smells of wild ranges do make me happy. And since I am under the drinking age and not many people I know drink wine at school, I haven’t had much experience out of class and away from home, but do hope in time that I can experience more delectable wines that will truly express the flavor of nature.

  • http://web.me.com/dcadieux1 monden

    Wow!!! An amazing show with an amazing guest!! I’ve been getting into biodynamism into late 2005. Read a bit about before, but never actually tasted anything biodynamic before that to my knowledge. The first Biodynamic wine i had was a Domaine vîret 2003 cuvée renaissance Côte-du-Rhône village and was totally blown away with it. Of course, the ambiance, i was in south west of France in very good but very small restaurant where my friend and host brought me and it was quite amazing too,so the experience of with who and with what food you have a wine with is enhancing the experience of the wine.(or screwing it up!!, if the ambiance is bad!!) I bought some of the 2006 vintage and also bought some of the 2003 and they were all fantastic. So i truly believe that it is the best way to express terroir, a sense of place. I watched the first episode you did on Biodynamism and only one out of 4 wines was really good, the alsacian. This is also true, the fact that even if you treat the soil with respect, if the terroir is bad, or the winemaker, the wine will be bad as well. I think the same applies to organically grown foods. They are not all good. But when they are, as is for wine they are truly spectacular

  • http://web.me.com/dcadieux1 monden

    Wow!!! An amazing show with an amazing guest!! I’ve been getting into biodynamism into late 2005. Read a bit about before, but never actually tasted anything biodynamic before that to my knowledge. The first Biodynamic wine i had was a Domaine vîret 2003 cuvée renaissance Côte-du-Rhône village and was totally blown away with it. Of course, the ambiance, i was in south west of France in very good but very small restaurant where my friend and host brought me and it was quite amazing too,so the experience of with who and with what food you have a wine with is enhancing the experience of the wine.(or screwing it up!!, if the ambiance is bad!!) I bought some of the 2006 vintage and also bought some of the 2003 and they were all fantastic. So i truly believe that it is the best way to express terroir, a sense of place. I watched the first episode you did on Biodynamism and only one out of 4 wines was really good, the alsacian. This is also true, the fact that even if you treat the soil with respect, if the terroir is bad, or the winemaker, the wine will be bad as well. I think the same applies to organically grown foods. They are not all good. But when they are, as is for wine they are truly spectacular

  • http://web.me.com/dcadieux1 monden

    QOTD: i am mostly happy with most of the wines i buy. Some bad experience with cheaper wines lately, but overall, my batting average is pretty good. Well over .500 in the last 6 months.

  • http://web.me.com/dcadieux1 monden

    QOTD: i am mostly happy with most of the wines i buy. Some bad experience with cheaper wines lately, but overall, my batting average is pretty good. Well over .500 in the last 6 months.

  • Kirk

    I just watched this again for the second or third time…what a great show…and a very dynamic guest.

    QOTD: I would say I am more often pleased with the wines I drink than I am pleased with wines that others try to get me to drink. I can’t wait to get to the Loire and visit Nicolas!

  • Kirk

    I just watched this again for the second or third time…what a great show…and a very dynamic guest.

    QOTD: I would say I am more often pleased with the wines I drink than I am pleased with wines that others try to get me to drink. I can’t wait to get to the Loire and visit Nicolas!

  • Guillaume

    Loved the show! (short comment but I’m still recovering from the huge amount of “wisdom” N. Joly put in his words ;) He makes you love what he loves and that’s the beauty of passionate people)

  • Guillaume

    Loved the show! (short comment but I’m still recovering from the huge amount of “wisdom” N. Joly put in his words ;) He makes you love what he loves and that’s the beauty of passionate people)

  • richardvinifera

    QOTD: I wish a group of producers or region or country would be a trailblazer and provide more information on vineyard and winemaking on the labels!

  • richardvinifera

    QOTD: I wish a group of producers or region or country would be a trailblazer and provide more information on vineyard and winemaking on the labels!

  • http://www.xanga.com/jacamp16 jacamp16

    Got to taste the 2004 Coulee de Serrant this past Friday. Wow. Such a fun wine. The balance was insane. Great, great wine and I got it for around $30.

  • gman802

    Without a doubt my two favorite episodes.

  • Le_M

    He *is* a crazy witchdoctor.
    And probably an incredible assistent to nature.

  • Mv7

    Great, great episode. “It's wine fuh chrissakes!!!!” Definitely going to seek out his wines.

  • Weston3220

    watched it again because I had too!

    qotd: Sometimes I am, sometimes I am disappointed sigh but thats wine

  • http://twitter.com/GidFoley Gideon Foley

    coolest guest that has ever been on the show
    qotd: generally i am not happy with the wine i drink.. sometimes there will be a good wine, but more often than not i am unhappy with it, and not just in the low price points

  • http://twitter.com/AbstruseJuice Justin Anderson

    Easily my favorite guest ever on WLTV, I just re-watched this two parter today for the first time since seeing them when they came out last year and I'm in love. I wish this was like a 2 hour special with Nicolas, I could listen to him talk for hours. GREAT EP.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6CVQ5MLVEJKBYWUONJU4SACZXE Patrick

    One of the BEST episodes EVER! Don’t know how I forgot about this one, but thanks for linking it up in Ep 952, Mott! I could listen to Nicolas all day.

  • Geoalb

    I just got around to watching this 2 part episode this week. It’s INCREDIBLE and one of the best shows ever. I know many won’t understand but it moved me to tears.

  • John__J

    I’m 99.9% sure that Coulee de Serrant, Chateau Grillet, & Romanee Conti are the only 3 single owned appellations in France. If there’s any more, then they were added in the past year. And Coulee de Serrant and Romanee Conti are 2 wines I’ve only gotten to dream of and not taste yet
    qotd: I’d be happier if I could find all the oddball wines I’ve heard of and want to drink. But I’m getting closer all the time

  • Anonymous

    Good guest..sorry still enjoy my whites colder than reds.. QOTD-most of the time since I mostly don’t buy unless I know something about it.. http://www.winelx.com

  • Anonymous

    dude- I have 2. One I got from you one I had to source. Joly Clos de la Bergerie 2005 the most I have ever paid for a white wine. I bought it strictly on the color and the vibrancy of Joly. What an amazing person 628-629) The other the 2007 Lindaflor Malbec I got 2 bottles I cracked one with my brother over the holidays then the other. It was a huge wine that we could have put it away for 5 years. A after my wife releases me from wine probation ;) I’ll get a case. Hopefully Gary will have some left.

  • Michael Kanbergs

    “How would you describe this wine?”

    hilarious. You just don’t get it at all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=630276710 Luca Bercelli

    93/100

    line of the day – ‘Mott, zoom in on this guy over here…he’s like a puppet master’

    Fantastic guest and two superb episodes. Gary actually overshadowed for probably the only time ever

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