EP 994 Tasting with Tim and Carrisa Mondavi from Continuum Part 2

The concluding part, including the tasting of the 2006 and 2008 Continuum with Tim and Carissa Mondavi. Gary, Tim, and Carissa speak more about the California wine business, vineyards, and winemaking.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Continuum
2008 Continuum

Links mentioned in todays episode.

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Very nice!

QOTD – You are going down the right path, for sure. I appreciate the focus and dedication, though don’t think this is the ONLY way to go. If it works for you, great – especially if it bring success to the winery. Honestly, I think the artistic aspect is the most important. Also, careful winemaking is always important while I think blending is something that California needs more of.

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  • Johnny Hubbard

    I have been a viewer since the double digit episodes… I am a lurker extraordinaire! Why? I watch the episodes on a ferry during my commute out here in the Seattle area.

    I can NO LONGER keep my mouth shut about you interrupting legendary guests dureing your interviews.. I was totally horrified every time you asked Tim Mondavi a question, because I knew that during his answer you would cut him off and talk about yourself… This had the potential of being one of the most interesting interviews of the year!! Unfortunately it was butchered by your cringe inducing interrupting.. F*&cking horrifying! When you ask a wine legend a question, PLEASE sit back and allow the person to give his full opinion and answer! PLEASE!!! You are a little runt in the wine world & you need to work on showing more respect toward these legends… PLEASE!!.

    Other than that, thanx for opening up the wine world & widening the palate of all wine enthusiasts worldwide!

  • Anonymous

    Loved both episodes. Loved the history. I will be visiting next time in Napa.

  • Anonymous

    (*Yawn)…UUGHH, one of the worst episodes ever. Tim is a big dry bore…for God’s sake let Carissa talk! His wines are very over priced and I would never purchase one.
    So Gary what were your scores on these wines?

    QOTD: Of course single estate is a very important thing to me.

  • ToddT

    QOTD: That is a great question. I am new to wine (under 2 years of nerding out) but it is this artist aspect that initially captivated me. I have always been collector of one thing or another through out my life (comics, toys, sneakers) and what was most fascinating about those was the small attentions to detail, or quality that made them special. I have found a parallel to that in the wine world, which is what has really drawn me in. When I share a special bottle of wine with great food for family and loved ones, it is important to me that the people that stand behind the wine do it cause they love their art. As for the single bottling, I am a big proponent of second bottlings, not only to help safeguard the quality of the first bottle, but also to make your premiere bottle more accessible. I love barolo and barbaresco, but only discovered this so soon due to the high quality reasonably priced langhe bottlings a lot of the Italian makers produce.

  • Anonymous

    Gary, I thought this was a great show, and I think this show (1 & 2) were in the top 10 for me…..Laura Catena is still at the top for me. I sadly have to agree with Johnny Hubbard on this one too. You are a smart guy and ask some great questions, but you really need to give your guests a little more time to answer those questions, especially when you have a big name like Mondavi, and a lovely lady sitting to your right….

    QOTD1: Single Vineyard is important to me to get a true feel for the terroir of that Estate, but to be really honest, I am more concerned with the winemakers style and blending techniques. A great wine is a great wine, regardless of a Single Vineyard Label.
    QOTD2: I would love to see a 2nd label that could appeal to those that might not be able to shell out $150/btl….and right now, that is me….

  • Anonymous

    Gary:
    I couldn’t watch the entire show(s). Too much talkin’…and thanks for attempting to keep the show moving. I watch to see the GV perspective, not the guests. If you didn’t interrupt, Mr. Mondavi would still be talking.

  • http://www.facebook.com/skiwithjustin Justin Decker

    QOTD: Single Estate gets important to me once i start to shell out more than $20, under that it means nothing. I expect the wine to stand out differently from other wines, extremely different.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KXQ3BEVV4YOUCPQ2ES4HFS67DM IPA

    Awesome show! Being more than just a wine drinker seeking a quick review, I thought the show ended a bit to quick. So much wine knowledge, I loved it.

  • supertrirunner

    why isn’t there a dislike button???

  • Anonymous

    Um,…No. The quality (or lack thereof) in the bottle is determined by what it tastes like.
    And I can assure you, what he’s pushing can be found by the boat loads for $25.00.
    And yes, with so many talented producers out there today that are bringing excellent
    wine to the market at super nice prices, That is something to toast. Oh, and since you seem awed by big numbers, I’ll let loose another wine geek tip,…Few people who drop thousands of dollars on single bottles actually ever drink the stuff. Nor were they intending to. In fact, many could care less. It’s simply an investment that is auctioned off for a profit when the market is ripe. And that, audiofan, is what truly sets the price for these $5,000 bottles of pure nonsense. So, with that, I suggest you start being more impressed with what go’s in the glass rather than what comes out of the wallet. Happy Hoisting!

  • Anonymous

    Tim Mondavi was amazing. His perspective and passion for making great wine is why he’s a legend. Well done.

  • http://twitter.com/WadeShanley Wade Shanley

    really enjoyed the show, felt bad for Carissa though…she couldn’t get a word in…Tim is quite the talker but also very interesting and knowledgeable. This probably could have been a 3 parter. QOTD: I’m not so concerned about Single Vinyard wines. I think there are some great growers in Napa and Sonoma and if they limit themselves to just their estate, they are short changing their potential to create some great wines. If you were a painter, would you limit your palet? If you were a writer would you limit your vocabulary

  • http://twitter.com/WadeShanley Wade Shanley

    agree

  • Anonymous

    Pucker up…..Smooch!!

  • Anonymous

    I have had the pleasure of visiting Continuum and a tour of the (at that time, prospective) vineyards with Carissa Mondavi. The passion this family has for wine is amazing and is well reflected in the wine itself. To have the chance to learn something about wine from someone of Tim Mondavi’s stature is rare and I would have loved to have heard more of what he had to say. Napa Valley is what it is today largely because of the Mondavi family and Tim Mondavi has been no small part of that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Juan-Jose-Alvarez/640095860 Juan Jose Alvarez

    I’ve never bought a single bottle of Mondavi. Why? Their labels push me away. I really don’t like Mondavi’s labels.

  • Bolgheri

    First two great shows and interview(s). IMHO, single vineyard and a dedicated loyal team is paramount to excellence in wine making. Hopefully the sites terroir is suited to be one of the singluarly unique and exceptional locations on the planet. The Mondavi family deserves has earned the right to have such a living “heritage” in the wine industry.

  • Anonymous

    A wise man once said, “Do one thing, and do it well, and the world will beat a path to your door.” Would you rather have a wine where the winemaker has been able to focus all his skill & attention on making it the greatest wine of it’s kind without distraction – or make four or five wines that require him to divide his limited time & attention among them all? It’s an interesting question.

  • Anonymous

    Would like to hear your definition of “over-priced” – ie; compared to what? Many other world-class wine costs MUCH more than $150 per bottle. Is Mercedes over-priced? Perhaps, but only compared to cars that offer considerably less comfort, performance, and retention of value. If you’ve tasted the wine and feel it’s over-priced, power to you. But I suspect many who bash “expensive” wines have never tasted them. Compared to Harlan, Bryan, Screaming Eagle, or Sloan (and many others, not to even MENTION Bordeaux), the Continuum blend is reasonably priced. If single estate is “very important” to you, I’m sure you know it isn’t cheap.

  • Anonymous

    Johnny, if I’ve told ya once…stop holding back & mincing words & tell us how you REALLY feel!!! Jus’ kiddin, bro, but for the record, you’re right – we all have weaknesses and one of Gary’s is…well, you know. But you accept your mates – warts an’ all – as you HOPE they accept yours. Peace!

  • http://twitter.com/paceology christopher pace

    absolutely agree! cmon audiofan, $5,000 and $2,000 bottles of wine? that’s your argument? 750ml of wine is never worth that kind of money. it’s ridiculous. Two Buck Chuck has sold over 300 million bottles because they don’t pretend to be something they’re not. i will NEVER pay $140 for a bottle of wine. a basic marketing and economic assumption is to influence how people value goods by changing an external property, ie, price. i thought these were the kind of assumptions that wine library tv was trying to get away from. i’m still a fan of the show, i can respect a family’s heritage for wine making and what they’ve done for the industry, good or bad, agree or disagree, but i’m not going to watch someone try to sell me a $140 bottle of wine. i would like to see a blind tasting with one of these wines, and something less expensive.

  • Anonymous

    Glad you agree. “What it tastes like” determines if people will “repeat buy”…if it “tastes good”, ie, is high quality, people will come back for more, whether you’re selling wine or hot dogs. And, with all due respect, where do you get your information?
    Are you taking a poll of the people who spend thousands for a bottle of DRC Montratchet and what they do/don’t do with it? Can you back up your claims with any facts? Tell me (again, due respect), what makes you think I’m “awed by big numbers”…I’m pretty sure we haven’t met…are you omniscient? Please feel free to rattle off all these great $25 bottles you alone know about, I’d like to try them. And please share with me the last bottle of Bordeaux or Burgundy you’ve tried that WASN’T worthless plonk – or are they ALL worthless? You might need to sit down for this, but there IS a big difference between Lafite Rothschild and Yellow Tail…and they’re BOTH quite sucessful. I’ve been a wine nut for 36 years, sport – I’m not THAT easily impressed.

  • Anonymous

    The “disqus-f**ked” comment was intended for “boulcut” on (I believe) page three. He has since changed his handle to “God.”

  • Anonymous

    wow some one who wouldn’t let gary get a word in edge wise…… or his own daughter. the show was interesting but I found Mondavi to be self important and very passive aggressive.

  • Anonymous

    As disqus is “at it again”, this reply is for christopher pace on page three (at least at present). Chris: My argument is simple “Buisness 101″ – products “make it” in the market because (concentrate real hard now) they deliever something the public, at least enough of the public, wants! It doesn’t matter if it’s expensive or cheap, if enough people don’t think it’s worth it, the product will go the way of the dinosaurs.
    This is not rocket science! The market (people) determines if they want the product being offered. In the case of Continuum, if enough people think it’s an exceptional wine, and worth $150 a bottle, it WILL thrive & prosper! I respect both your and boulcut’s opinion (although I think its somewhat narrow-minded), and I really don’t care if others buy these wines or not. But to attack the wine and proclaim “I’d NEVER pay $140 for a bottle of wine” comes across as rigid and presumptuous. Please don’t take this wrong, but the fact that Two Buck Chuck sells alot of wine just means that there is alot of people who will tolerate simple, uninteresting “wine” because it gives them a buzz & its cheap. McDonalds has sold quite a few ‘burgers, but is it fine dining?
    I’m sure that many who frequent that establishment would “never pay $8 for a hamburger,” either, but does it follow that no ‘burger could be worth that much?
    Oh, BTW, you watch WLTV, right? Then you DO watch someone trying to sell you a $140 (and a few times, more) bottle of wine: Gary V.
    (Bet disqus sends this to “position one…”)

  • Anonymous

    That DOES it!!!! I’m officially retired! May the smartest people in the world (a legend in their own minds) reign! Life is too damn short (and quickly getting shorter).

  • Anonymous

    As mature as the ’08 Continuum!

  • Anonymous

    These two episodes were painful to watch. It was like Ali vs. Foreman watching Gary and Tim try to talk. In the past several months I’ve seen episodes with guests and I typically really enjoy them. I tried several times to get through these episodes but I decided to have some teeth drilled without anesthseia instead.

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: In wine classes we are taught that single estate is more prestigious. However do what the winemakers say tastes best. You know what to do.

    PA has the Continuum wines.

  • http://twitter.com/paceology christopher pace

    haha, it did end up at the top of the discussion, but nevertheless, i got it. i really don’t care any more. we both have our opinions, fine, whatever, but man you have to be one of the most condescending people that i’ve ever seen post on here. and i read through a lot of the comments, more than i ever have, and you sure spent a lot of time arguing with every dissenting voice out there. you’ll probably post to this, because you’re one of those people that has to have the last say. i couldn’t afford a bottle of this wine, and even if i could, i wouldn’t buy it, just like, your right, i wouldn’t buy an $8 hamburger, because no hamburger is worth that. sure there’s a market for the wine, there’s a market for ferraris, but that’s because there are people that have more money than they know what to do with and spend it on stupid, meaningless things like cars and expensive wines. but, i’m just “uninteresting and simple”, so i’m sorry, but materialistic things don’t mean much to me. and, i haven’t seen every episode of wine library tv, but i’ve never seen one where Gary was trying to push a $140 bottle of wine on the viewers. but maybe i just wasn’t “concentrating” enough. for someone who says they respect others opinions, your sure come across as a real jag off when you defend your arguments. Gary recently talked about eating humble pie, maybe you should try being more humble, but i guess with “36 years” of wine knowledge under your belt, you’re all good. ok, later, sport.

  • http://twitter.com/paceology christopher pace

    i definitely enjoyed the second half of this two-parter better. reading through the comments was almost as interesting as some of the stuff talked about on the show. i’ve already let my opinion be know, but it’s just one opinion from one person, and i still enjoyed some of what this episode was about, and i will continue to watch and learn and enjoy.

    i think the family aspects of an estate vineyard are some of what makes them appealing to me.

  • Anonymous

    Enjoyed this part two too. Amusing to see the internet psychology come out in the comments… why do people think everyone needs to agree with them? If your favorite color is red and mine is green, good for you.

    QOTD: Single estate is interesting, but not necessary to me. I would expect that it would be more of an expression of terroir versus trying to achieve a particular goal in a bottling that could be facilitated by blending from a wider set of inputs. It all makes me happy, along with the $8 texas riesling I am drinking. All you people commenting should be happy too.

  • Anonymous

    I always think single vinyard in California means better quality. I would pay $100-150 if i loved the wine. Just means i can’t buy any other bottles that month…LOL Oh ya and i would have to not tell the wife. Hey too bad this episode did not flow better. Maybe better descriptions of the wine from all three people would have been nice. Hey somebody cool down Audiofan…ha ha slow down hammer…

  • Agee

    QOTD: I’ve been drinking wine now for five years, and I became hooked almost instantly.

    For me, wine is becoming something more than the physical characteristics of the wine, although obviously important. What I really enjoy is the shared experiences with my wife and with friends that wine has brought to me. It’s amazing how red grapes can provide so much pleasure to so many.

    I am starting my verticals, not just to see the differences in the wine over the years, although that is intriguing on its own merit. It’s also about sharing with my wife a point in time in our relationship. It’s a tangible thing that brings back memories unlike anything else I’ve ever encountered.

    It sounds overly dramatic and quite sappy, but it’s where I am at now in my life. I share this with everyone, because the first wine we decided to do this with is Continuum. I am very fortunate to be able to afford this extraordinary wine. I also have been fortunate enough to meet Tim, Carissa, and Chiara. They are exceptional people who make an exceptional wine. Cheers to you, Tim and Carissa and thank you for the memories to come.

  • Anonymous

    qotd 1 : I guess it depends on the size of the estate, I do prefer the burgundy way its more vintage dependent. I guess at the moment the bordeaux way by way of the 1st growth has lowered my respect, but that being said I do like family smaller less expensive less marketing style just good quality where people pay for quality.

  • Anonymous

    …whether they like it or not!

    QOTD: I like the single estate bordeaux methodology. I am in favor of a 2nd wine for continuum. Where do the younger vines/less ideal grapes go currently?

  • Anonymous

    GV – Great show, great guest, and hopefully I’ll get a chance to try the wine sometime soon!

    QOTD: I do think a single estate is important. It lends itself to a wine having more of its own identity! I think as a consumer, there is more interest and peace of mind when you know the wine came from one place, with only the estate’s wine and so forth! I also think having a single estate wine gives more benefit to the particular region and its terroir! With a wine such as Continuum, you can learn more, appreciate more, and benefit more as a wine lover knowing a part of the wine’s true personality! Again…great show! Cheers!

  • Tony Tombstone

    Finally made my way through the 2nd half of the show and although awkward at times when Tim wouldn’t let his daughter talk I thought it was fascinating to hear him and Gary bounce thoughts, etc back and forth. Let’s face it this family is “wine” as we know it in the states. I am anticipating my 3 pack to come in as we speak.

    QOTD. Love Estate specific wines. Love the idea of seeing what the terrior is going to bring us year in and year out. Have you tried Tom Scott Vineyards “The Barn Burner.”. I think they call that a farmers blend where they pull the same 4 acres of Cab, Merlot, etc and put them oin the barrel without blending. I love the variance in year to year bottlings. I hope you do not try to go for the same taste each year as it gets boring.

    QOTD 2- I think n entry level wine is a great idea.

  • Anonymous

    Fantastic Show!
    I wished I had met Tim & Carrisa while I was in Napa last Summer.
    Fascinating People. I do hope to meet and chat with them soon.
    QOTD: Single Estate Vineyard would be more of a Statement to the Buyer that the Winery is taking the risk of doing it right. I feel it’s important to know as a future Grower.
    M~R

    PS-I posted this here but it ended up on part 1

  • Anonymous

    Whew! Well good man, Now that you’re done, here’s a recommendation to enjoy in your retirement. Chateau La Grolet, Cotes de bourg. I got the 2008. Made by one of the few biodynamic vintners in Bordeaux and it is just delish. Set me back about 18 bucks I think..
    You can find it on Astor wine and spirits website. Enjoy.

  • Anonymous

    Very nice!

    QOTD – You are going down the right path, for sure. I appreciate the focus and dedication, though don’t think this is the ONLY way to go. If it works for you, great – especially if it bring success to the winery. Honestly, I think the artistic aspect is the most important. Also, careful winemaking is always important while I think blending is something that California needs more of.

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