EP 109 Classic Wine Tasting.

Wines tasted in this episode:

Today Gary tastes some of the classics and treats himself and you to some of the greatest wines in the world including Mouton, Le Pin and Torbreck.

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Alexandre Savoie aka Sniffysix

WTF
Anyways not a fan of Aussie shiraz or any aussie wine actually

Tags: Bordeaux, red meritage, red wines, review, Video, wine, wines

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  • TimF

    How about episode 16 when Gary says he’s going to do a blind tasting? 93 episodes later and no luck…

  • TimF

    How about episode 16 when Gary says he’s going to do a blind tasting? 93 episodes later and no luck…

  • Panman

    I think if Gary finished the line up he had displayed THEN WL would have no more money left to fund WLTV.

    This was like watching a rated R movie on TBS…all the good parts were cut out.

  • Panman

    I think if Gary finished the line up he had displayed THEN WL would have no more money left to fund WLTV.

    This was like watching a rated R movie on TBS…all the good parts were cut out.

  • Dan G.

    Good one Panman. Hey Gary was that a Sound & Vision test pattern?

  • Dan G.

    Good one Panman. Hey Gary was that a Sound & Vision test pattern?

  • TampaSteve

    Did I hear Burns mentioned. That is my neck of the woods…GREAT RESTAURANT! Best steak-house I have ever been to and I have been to many.

  • TampaSteve

    Did I hear Burns mentioned. That is my neck of the woods…GREAT RESTAURANT! Best steak-house I have ever been to and I have been to many.

  • Sonicgg

    Fool me once, you, er, won’t get fooled again!
    BrandonM- coming at you from the original Ground Zero, Hiroshima Japan! Not from here originally but clocking 7 years here now.
    Glad you at least got to the Torbreck, Gary. My fave Shiraz up to now might just be the Torbreck Wood cutter but would love to taste their better stuff. The Woodcutters is amazing for the price. I have tried a ’98 Grange but it did not show well given the circumstances: Tasted at a wine party after about 8 different very nice Burgs. The Grange came off as battery acid! I’ll still give it another chance though….

  • Sonicgg

    Fool me once, you, er, won’t get fooled again!
    BrandonM- coming at you from the original Ground Zero, Hiroshima Japan! Not from here originally but clocking 7 years here now.
    Glad you at least got to the Torbreck, Gary. My fave Shiraz up to now might just be the Torbreck Wood cutter but would love to taste their better stuff. The Woodcutters is amazing for the price. I have tried a ’98 Grange but it did not show well given the circumstances: Tasted at a wine party after about 8 different very nice Burgs. The Grange came off as battery acid! I’ll still give it another chance though….

  • Matthew L

    I’ve tasted very expensive Shiraz at wine tastings, but those don’t count because I didn’t really get to enjoy them.

    I’ve also purchased some Shiraz, while visiting my family in Michigan, and…ooops…forgot to peel the labels.

    So, with that said, for me it’s maybe a 2001 Penfolds St. Henri or the 2002 Greg Norman Limestone Shiraz.

    I would like to think the numbers from left to right and top to bottom represent the possible scores of the Jets/Lions game on Sunday. The top row has the Jets scores, and bottom row represents the Lions. 😀

  • Matthew L

    I’ve tasted very expensive Shiraz at wine tastings, but those don’t count because I didn’t really get to enjoy them.

    I’ve also purchased some Shiraz, while visiting my family in Michigan, and…ooops…forgot to peel the labels.

    So, with that said, for me it’s maybe a 2001 Penfolds St. Henri or the 2002 Greg Norman Limestone Shiraz.

    I would like to think the numbers from left to right and top to bottom represent the possible scores of the Jets/Lions game on Sunday. The top row has the Jets scores, and bottom row represents the Lions. 😀

  • Paul

    Wake up, BrandonM. Your kids must have gotten you up by now.

    QOTD – Can’t say I get to taste a lot of expensive Oz Shiraz. Most interesting one was from 1978, the first year Rosemount sent their Shiraz to the U.S. Two bottlings – black label and yellow label, the latter unfiltered. They actually made interesting wine back then. Not Grange Hermitage, but still good juice. Can’t say it was what we associate with Oz today because it was more Rhone-like – peppery, balanced – but I remember it well. Ah, the good old days …………

  • Paul

    Wake up, BrandonM. Your kids must have gotten you up by now.

    QOTD – Can’t say I get to taste a lot of expensive Oz Shiraz. Most interesting one was from 1978, the first year Rosemount sent their Shiraz to the U.S. Two bottlings – black label and yellow label, the latter unfiltered. They actually made interesting wine back then. Not Grange Hermitage, but still good juice. Can’t say it was what we associate with Oz today because it was more Rhone-like – peppery, balanced – but I remember it well. Ah, the good old days …………

  • Susan

    Brandon M,
    Are you really on the west coast but working for Wine Library?
    Are you originally from New Jersey?
    I am confused!

  • Susan

    Brandon M,
    Are you really on the west coast but working for Wine Library?
    Are you originally from New Jersey?
    I am confused!

  • SS Chris

    TAMPA STEVE,
    When I go to the Wine Ethusiast link that you provided for the EuroCaves, I can’t fine any section that shows units with scratches, etc. Am I doing something wrong?

    TAMPA STEVE, JULIUS & STALLION,
    A few more questins:

    Regarding the EuroCave–the picture of the 260 shows a something like 8 shelfs, but the description talks to only “two adjustable and one rolling shelf”. Can you clarify this for me? Do you need to be extra shelves seperately

    Also, do you guys know anything about Avanti’s? Are they quality units? (STALLION, By the way, if I decide NOT to go big, I will be going with your recommendation)

    P.S. Burns Steakhouse is on my “Favorite Restaurant” SS from the QOD from Ep #88. I remember your description very well and it was also mentioned by VaynIAC “Michael W”. It includes a bunch of NYC “favorites” as well. If you guys want a copy , just ask Gary to forward your email address to me, and I’ll send it. (this offer is good for all VaynIACS as well)

    thank you all for your help

  • SS Chris

    TAMPA STEVE,
    When I go to the Wine Ethusiast link that you provided for the EuroCaves, I can’t fine any section that shows units with scratches, etc. Am I doing something wrong?

    TAMPA STEVE, JULIUS & STALLION,
    A few more questins:

    Regarding the EuroCave–the picture of the 260 shows a something like 8 shelfs, but the description talks to only “two adjustable and one rolling shelf”. Can you clarify this for me? Do you need to be extra shelves seperately

    Also, do you guys know anything about Avanti’s? Are they quality units? (STALLION, By the way, if I decide NOT to go big, I will be going with your recommendation)

    P.S. Burns Steakhouse is on my “Favorite Restaurant” SS from the QOD from Ep #88. I remember your description very well and it was also mentioned by VaynIAC “Michael W”. It includes a bunch of NYC “favorites” as well. If you guys want a copy , just ask Gary to forward your email address to me, and I’ll send it. (this offer is good for all VaynIACS as well)

    thank you all for your help

  • SS Chris

    SUSAN,
    Brandon doesn’t work for WL (either do I by the way–I’m a regular VayNIAC like you who created and, now, maintains the Spreadsheet).

    Not sure if B is from NJ originally (but, a good question). He DOES live in Cali now.

  • SS Chris

    SUSAN,
    Brandon doesn’t work for WL (either do I by the way–I’m a regular VayNIAC like you who created and, now, maintains the Spreadsheet).

    Not sure if B is from NJ originally (but, a good question). He DOES live in Cali now.

  • Bill

    Gary – yes, pretty obvious that the other wines were not going to get a showing. I suppose this is also why you did not decant the Torbreck, so as not to give the game away?!
    Best Aussie shiraz. Easy. Grange (almost always predominantly shiraz). Best Aussie shiraz in a realistic price range had recently? McIvor Creek (Heathcote), but I am having a Tatiarra Trademark tomorrow night so this might change soon!
    Oh, and Gary, the shiraz episode we have spoken about . . . . . . . . . Soon?

  • Bill

    Gary – yes, pretty obvious that the other wines were not going to get a showing. I suppose this is also why you did not decant the Torbreck, so as not to give the game away?!
    Best Aussie shiraz. Easy. Grange (almost always predominantly shiraz). Best Aussie shiraz in a realistic price range had recently? McIvor Creek (Heathcote), but I am having a Tatiarra Trademark tomorrow night so this might change soon!
    Oh, and Gary, the shiraz episode we have spoken about . . . . . . . . . Soon?

  • Susan

    SS Chris,
    Thanks for setting me straight.
    You and Brandon must be
    HUGE Vayniac’s with all that the two of you do.
    On behalf of all the Vaynicac’s:
    THANKS
    to
    Brandon M &
    SS Chris!!!
    🙂

  • Susan

    SS Chris,
    Thanks for setting me straight.
    You and Brandon must be
    HUGE Vayniac’s with all that the two of you do.
    On behalf of all the Vaynicac’s:
    THANKS
    to
    Brandon M &
    SS Chris!!!
    🙂

  • SS Chris

    SUSAN, thanks for the thanks!!

    Yes, I think that Brandon and I are slightly more VaynIACy than some.

    I know our wives, Denyce and Dede, think so…

  • SS Chris

    SUSAN, thanks for the thanks!!

    Yes, I think that Brandon and I are slightly more VaynIACy than some.

    I know our wives, Denyce and Dede, think so…

  • Chris, stay away from Avanti…..I have heard many many bad things about them. They also didn’t even get reviewed in Consumer Reports from what I can remember. You will definetely be happy with the fridge I recommended…If I didn’t love it I would never recommend it. Us Vayniacs gotta stick together and watch out for eachother…we’re a wine family..

    -Stallion

  • Chris, stay away from Avanti…..I have heard many many bad things about them. They also didn’t even get reviewed in Consumer Reports from what I can remember. You will definetely be happy with the fridge I recommended…If I didn’t love it I would never recommend it. Us Vayniacs gotta stick together and watch out for eachother…we’re a wine family..

    -Stallion

  • TimF

    Gary — You really need to get a frapper map going. I don’t think it takes much effort (if any at all)…

  • TimF

    Gary — You really need to get a frapper map going. I don’t think it takes much effort (if any at all)…

  • Almost as good as #69. Fun episode. Loved the test pattern. Made me laugh.

    Michael Lewis is also the name of the safety that cost my Eagles a big loss on Sunday. Ouch!

    QOD: Clarendon Hills Brookman Syrah. One of the few Aussie Shirazs that I actually loved. I’m not too keen on the medicinal reds from Oz.

  • Almost as good as #69. Fun episode. Loved the test pattern. Made me laugh.

    Michael Lewis is also the name of the safety that cost my Eagles a big loss on Sunday. Ouch!

    QOD: Clarendon Hills Brookman Syrah. One of the few Aussie Shirazs that I actually loved. I’m not too keen on the medicinal reds from Oz.

  • QOD –
    From Meerea Park (Hunter Valley), The Aunts Shiraz is a nice drop, as well as the Meerea Park Alexander Munro Shiraz. Not sure if you get it in the US?

  • QOD –
    From Meerea Park (Hunter Valley), The Aunts Shiraz is a nice drop, as well as the Meerea Park Alexander Munro Shiraz. Not sure if you get it in the US?

  • Tom T.

    QOTD – A nice but inexpensive Shiraz is the Vasse Felix 2003 Adams Road from the Margaret River area.

  • Tom T.

    QOTD – A nice but inexpensive Shiraz is the Vasse Felix 2003 Adams Road from the Margaret River area.

  • TimF

    QOD: The only Australian shiraz that stands out in my mind for any reason is the Black Opal. I remember tasting it at the very first wine tasting I ever attended back in 1997 in Lafayette, IN. I remember the guy telling us to pair it with chocolate. That was a completely foreign concept to me at the time. It was one of the seminal moments in my developing a love for wine…

  • TimF

    QOD: The only Australian shiraz that stands out in my mind for any reason is the Black Opal. I remember tasting it at the very first wine tasting I ever attended back in 1997 in Lafayette, IN. I remember the guy telling us to pair it with chocolate. That was a completely foreign concept to me at the time. It was one of the seminal moments in my developing a love for wine…

  • Sam Zen

    I had a wonderful Kaesler that sets the stamdard for me.

  • Sam Zen

    I had a wonderful Kaesler that sets the stamdard for me.

  • 7:30 I’m up…but the kids aren’t!

    No…I don’t work for Wine Library, I’m just a complete Vayniac!
    Allthough I didn’t play Fantasy Football this year, so I’m actually saving time!

    SonicGG…that is awesome! Anyone else? Europe, Africa, Australia, South America?

    TimF thats a great idea on the map…those are too cool…someone should look into it.

    B

  • 7:30 I’m up…but the kids aren’t!

    No…I don’t work for Wine Library, I’m just a complete Vayniac!
    Allthough I didn’t play Fantasy Football this year, so I’m actually saving time!

    SonicGG…that is awesome! Anyone else? Europe, Africa, Australia, South America?

    TimF thats a great idea on the map…those are too cool…someone should look into it.

    B

  • Grasshopper

    Sensei,

    I know I have been bombarding you with questions, but I have one more…..

    When dining in a very nice resteraunt and you are going to have their five course tasting menu, do you usually go with their wine pairings or do you prefer choosing the wine or wines yourself? As you know, my Wife and I are celebrating our Anniversary this Saturday and I really appreciate your recommendation of the 1996 Ridge Monte Bello. But now that I have seen the menu and know they offer a five course tsating with pairings, which way would you go??

    Grasshopper

  • Grasshopper

    Sensei,

    I know I have been bombarding you with questions, but I have one more…..

    When dining in a very nice resteraunt and you are going to have their five course tasting menu, do you usually go with their wine pairings or do you prefer choosing the wine or wines yourself? As you know, my Wife and I are celebrating our Anniversary this Saturday and I really appreciate your recommendation of the 1996 Ridge Monte Bello. But now that I have seen the menu and know they offer a five course tsating with pairings, which way would you go??

    Grasshopper

  • DougG

    “Chris, stay away from Avantiâ?¦..I have heard many many bad things about them”

    I have had an Avanti for 7 years now and it has worked perfectly for me, not sure if there are any other opinions on these units.

  • DougG

    “Chris, stay away from Avantiâ?¦..I have heard many many bad things about them”

    I have had an Avanti for 7 years now and it has worked perfectly for me, not sure if there are any other opinions on these units.

  • The numbers are integral to the LOST series and are the solution to the Valenzetti equation that is the premise for the DHARMA intiative to be on the island in the first place where the LOST characters crash. It is fairly complicated and the number source came out in an on-line game called the LOST Experience over the past summer.

    My favorite Shiraz is virtually any year of the Dead Arm from D’Arenberg. Have had only one bottle of the Torbeck don’t remember the designation from 1998. Loved it but not readily available here in Tideater Virginia.

    Knew the other wines weren’t opened and the cost of the rest of the tasting would have been about $3500. Free shipping is one thing because you are making sales that way. Tasting Le Pin isn’t going to make anyone run out to buy it. Same with the Mouton and the Hermitage probably $250 each.

  • The numbers are integral to the LOST series and are the solution to the Valenzetti equation that is the premise for the DHARMA intiative to be on the island in the first place where the LOST characters crash. It is fairly complicated and the number source came out in an on-line game called the LOST Experience over the past summer.

    My favorite Shiraz is virtually any year of the Dead Arm from D’Arenberg. Have had only one bottle of the Torbeck don’t remember the designation from 1998. Loved it but not readily available here in Tideater Virginia.

    Knew the other wines weren’t opened and the cost of the rest of the tasting would have been about $3500. Free shipping is one thing because you are making sales that way. Tasting Le Pin isn’t going to make anyone run out to buy it. Same with the Mouton and the Hermitage probably $250 each.

  • TampaSteve

    SS Chris go through this link http://www.wineenthusiast.com/E/landing.asp?N=63&uid=233FF331-08B9-4A50-9E18-31B45319C6F1 It will still take you to the same spot but you will see the link there for the outlet. The inventory in the outlet varies constantly. Not all the items in the outlet are scratch and dent, sometimes they are mistake orders or cancelled orders or refabs. The good ones go VERY fast so check there daily. The bought mine as soon as I saw it listed. The units generally only come with something like one rolling shelf and 2 fixed shelves, you have to buy any extra shelving. The more shelving you buy the more space it will take out of the unit. The bulk shelving (the way it comes) gives the most capacity. You will cut the capacity almost in half if you fill it top to bottom with sliding shelves and the shelving get’s expensive. I did buy extra sliding shelves and ended up taking some out to make more room. The unit is top end, you will love it. I have the Confort series 260 with a glass door. I bought it to replace 2 small 36 bottle Haier units I had. Not only have I pretty much filled up the EuroCave I have even put one of my Haier units back to work. After I receive my shipment from the WL free shipping deal I will be putting the second Haier back in service also. This wine buying is addictive.

    I love Burns. We go there at least once a year. We used to goes almost monthly when my wife was on her expense account and did a lot of entertaining for her job….those days are sadly gone now however, so once a year it is. I went there for my 40th birthday with my nephew and best friend. Those were back in the days when you could still light up a cigar and enjoy. We got in at 6pm and walked out from the desert room at 11pm $1200 later. On the way out they were kidding us that we knew how to do Berns in grand style..lol

  • TampaSteve

    SS Chris go through this link http://www.wineenthusiast.com/E/landing.asp?N=63&uid=233FF331-08B9-4A50-9E18-31B45319C6F1 It will still take you to the same spot but you will see the link there for the outlet. The inventory in the outlet varies constantly. Not all the items in the outlet are scratch and dent, sometimes they are mistake orders or cancelled orders or refabs. The good ones go VERY fast so check there daily. The bought mine as soon as I saw it listed. The units generally only come with something like one rolling shelf and 2 fixed shelves, you have to buy any extra shelving. The more shelving you buy the more space it will take out of the unit. The bulk shelving (the way it comes) gives the most capacity. You will cut the capacity almost in half if you fill it top to bottom with sliding shelves and the shelving get’s expensive. I did buy extra sliding shelves and ended up taking some out to make more room. The unit is top end, you will love it. I have the Confort series 260 with a glass door. I bought it to replace 2 small 36 bottle Haier units I had. Not only have I pretty much filled up the EuroCave I have even put one of my Haier units back to work. After I receive my shipment from the WL free shipping deal I will be putting the second Haier back in service also. This wine buying is addictive.

    I love Burns. We go there at least once a year. We used to goes almost monthly when my wife was on her expense account and did a lot of entertaining for her job….those days are sadly gone now however, so once a year it is. I went there for my 40th birthday with my nephew and best friend. Those were back in the days when you could still light up a cigar and enjoy. We got in at 6pm and walked out from the desert room at 11pm $1200 later. On the way out they were kidding us that we knew how to do Berns in grand style..lol

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