EP 111 Wine Glasses, How Do They Affect Wine?

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Today Gary tackles a very important topic that many people discuss and debate at a fever pitch in the wine industry. Gary grabs two great wines and attacks this subjuct head first, please join in the discussion and let us know what you think. Also this is tell your friends thursday. Pass the WLTV word around!

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John Mielke

Is he F’n drunk at at the end?? Humbled at the difference, but the glasses absolutely make no difference in the wine???

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  • joe

    Gary, great episode…I think I requested this in the first dozen episodes!

    My first experience with glasses was 1999. We Invited my best buddy & wife to dinner who brought this Riedel Grand Cru Burgundy glasses with them because they knew we would serve wine out of Waterfold Leaded Crystal glasses that we got as a wedding present. He insisted we pour the same wine (it might have been a Heitz Cab) into both glasses and try them side by side. Wow, what a difference. The big thick Waterfords muted the taste and smell of the wine. The huge Riedels made that wine sing – if was like I was tasting wine for the first time. I not only became hooked on a good wine glass – – but the experience got me hooked on wine also and I became an enthusiast.

    And it was obvious that you believe too…..(despite your last comment)…because when you open a very very special wine for tasting – you always to go the BIG GRAND-Daddy to drink it in.

    ALso, I think the wine glass makes a bigger difference in the tasting experience if you consume it “normally” (as you would at dinner) rather than how you swish it about like you do for a critical review.

    Joe.

  • Karen

    hahahahaha! really good garyv. 🙂

    i’ve been holding this in (and i’m usually too busy to justify taking the time to do this commenting thing but that was too amusing to resist) but with all the chatter previously about who’s cute, madison, gary’s brother, and of course with lizv sticking up for her man, i have to add my two bits because there have to be some of you yanks who’ve seen this fellow (maybe in the movie “just friends”?).

    http://www.cornergas.com/whoswho/?bio=2

    fred ewanuik is cute, for the same reason garyv is, because he’s funny and disarming ….(it’s a funny show too…, you know, like, for canada, eh?…)

    700 eh? wow, that is amazing…

  • joe

    Gary, great episode…I think I requested this in the first dozen episodes!

    My first experience with glasses was 1999. We Invited my best buddy & wife to dinner who brought this Riedel Grand Cru Burgundy glasses with them because they knew we would serve wine out of Waterfold Leaded Crystal glasses that we got as a wedding present. He insisted we pour the same wine (it might have been a Heitz Cab) into both glasses and try them side by side. Wow, what a difference. The big thick Waterfords muted the taste and smell of the wine. The huge Riedels made that wine sing – if was like I was tasting wine for the first time. I not only became hooked on a good wine glass – – but the experience got me hooked on wine also and I became an enthusiast.

    And it was obvious that you believe too…..(despite your last comment)…because when you open a very very special wine for tasting – you always to go the BIG GRAND-Daddy to drink it in.

    ALso, I think the wine glass makes a bigger difference in the tasting experience if you consume it “normally” (as you would at dinner) rather than how you swish it about like you do for a critical review.

    Joe.

  • I’d have to go back and watch again, but it did seem that you liked the pinot in the Burgundy glass best, and the cab in the Bordeaux glass best. Vindication for the designer at Riedel, I guess.

    As someone else already asked, are you going to start tasting wines in the “right” glass from now on? Most of us probably don’t have a full set of Riedels, so I’m wondering how helpful that would be for us. Probably just make us jealous.

  • I’d have to go back and watch again, but it did seem that you liked the pinot in the Burgundy glass best, and the cab in the Bordeaux glass best. Vindication for the designer at Riedel, I guess.

    As someone else already asked, are you going to start tasting wines in the “right” glass from now on? Most of us probably don’t have a full set of Riedels, so I’m wondering how helpful that would be for us. Probably just make us jealous.

  • craig

    Thanks for doing this episode Gary. Seems like you made it jsut for me since I emailed this very question today! My experience had been with a $2 glass from Ikea that had a similar shape to a Riedel Bordeaux glass that I have. It made a HUGE difference and sold me on why I wanted to have more than 1 glass for every use.!

  • Grasshopper

    Sensei,

    Great episode! Are you going to always use the correct glass when tasting going forward? And, If we do not want to have eight different glass types, which ones to you recommend? I have the Riedel Bordeaux, Burgundy and Chardonnay. Do you think this covers me well enough?

    Glass story – we go to my in-laws often for Holidays. They have very small Waterford wine glasses. They are beautiful, but always bothered me when I brought nice wines with me, especially Reds. So…I started bringing my own glasses to their house and my Mother-in-law finally took the hint and bought some nice wine glasses, red and white.

    Grasshopper

  • craig

    Thanks for doing this episode Gary. Seems like you made it jsut for me since I emailed this very question today! My experience had been with a $2 glass from Ikea that had a similar shape to a Riedel Bordeaux glass that I have. It made a HUGE difference and sold me on why I wanted to have more than 1 glass for every use.!

  • Grasshopper

    Sensei,

    Great episode! Are you going to always use the correct glass when tasting going forward? And, If we do not want to have eight different glass types, which ones to you recommend? I have the Riedel Bordeaux, Burgundy and Chardonnay. Do you think this covers me well enough?

    Glass story – we go to my in-laws often for Holidays. They have very small Waterford wine glasses. They are beautiful, but always bothered me when I brought nice wines with me, especially Reds. So…I started bringing my own glasses to their house and my Mother-in-law finally took the hint and bought some nice wine glasses, red and white.

    Grasshopper

  • Jared

    great episode Gary. very interesting, entertaining and educational. As for the QOD you will never stop loving the J E T S JETS JETS JETS. Besides bleeding green, since the season is only 16 games over 17 weeks there are not enough games for you to grow tired. It is not like any other sport where you can watch a game any day of the week and a loss does not mean that much. Are you going to this sundays game? Let me know, ill be there taigating and all…

  • Jared

    great episode Gary. very interesting, entertaining and educational. As for the QOD you will never stop loving the J E T S JETS JETS JETS. Besides bleeding green, since the season is only 16 games over 17 weeks there are not enough games for you to grow tired. It is not like any other sport where you can watch a game any day of the week and a loss does not mean that much. Are you going to this sundays game? Let me know, ill be there taigating and all…

  • Scott S.

    Gary, Great show. I needed the validation that I was not crazy relative to glasses. My friends think I am a wine snob a give no merit to this notion of the “Glass effect”. I don’t talk about it much. Be it a mind game or not it really makes a difference to me. I agree the Burgundy and Bordeaux glasses are the 2 to own. In fact the Crystal vs Glass is the big Physics difference. The thin top edge of Crystal gives you the ” Feel” where the Glass has a awkward top line. For those of us who play Golf know this is why the pros play forged Blades, it’s in the feel as well.

  • Scott S.

    Gary, Great show. I needed the validation that I was not crazy relative to glasses. My friends think I am a wine snob a give no merit to this notion of the “Glass effect”. I don’t talk about it much. Be it a mind game or not it really makes a difference to me. I agree the Burgundy and Bordeaux glasses are the 2 to own. In fact the Crystal vs Glass is the big Physics difference. The thin top edge of Crystal gives you the ” Feel” where the Glass has a awkward top line. For those of us who play Golf know this is why the pros play forged Blades, it’s in the feel as well.

  • Hey, where’s Brandon? Finally had to do some work for once in order to pay for all the wine he buys? Denyce finally crack down on him? Maybe his Internet connection is down and he’s going into serious withdrawl.

  • Hey, where’s Brandon? Finally had to do some work for once in order to pay for all the wine he buys? Denyce finally crack down on him? Maybe his Internet connection is down and he’s going into serious withdrawl.

  • Karen

    whoa….am i the only one who sees the grin he can barely contain at the end especially? am i the only one who hears the last resounding “not”?
    hmm, well see, i was really really interested in this episode because hubby has filled our cupboards with various shapes and sizes of glasses and wants me to learn which to use. but now i’m not sure he won’t see it the same way most of you did….i understand the physics of the champagne glass, but c’mon! the differences in some of those is not physically going to make any reasonable difference at all….
    alright i’m off to get a glass, with no particular name other than “wine glass” and grab myself a splash of red (’03 Hecula Monastrell).

  • Karen

    whoa….am i the only one who sees the grin he can barely contain at the end especially? am i the only one who hears the last resounding “not”?
    hmm, well see, i was really really interested in this episode because hubby has filled our cupboards with various shapes and sizes of glasses and wants me to learn which to use. but now i’m not sure he won’t see it the same way most of you did….i understand the physics of the champagne glass, but c’mon! the differences in some of those is not physically going to make any reasonable difference at all….
    alright i’m off to get a glass, with no particular name other than “wine glass” and grab myself a splash of red (’03 Hecula Monastrell).

  • Big Billy from Big D

    Is 111 a prime number?
    Answer: No. 111 is the product of two prime numbers: 3 x 37

    What’s with the Lost Numbers in Ep 109?

    Well, It’s 1 – 2- 3 What are we tasting for?
    Don’t ask me I don’t give a Phin.
    The next stop is Chateau Le Pin.

    with apologies to Country Joe McDonald

  • Big Billy from Big D

    Is 111 a prime number?
    Answer: No. 111 is the product of two prime numbers: 3 x 37

    What’s with the Lost Numbers in Ep 109?

    Well, It’s 1 – 2- 3 What are we tasting for?
    Don’t ask me I don’t give a Phin.
    The next stop is Chateau Le Pin.

    with apologies to Country Joe McDonald

  • Sam Zengotitabengoa

    I agree… this is the best episode to date. Great knowledge. At home I use a montrachet styled glass for reds, and a bordeaux style glass for whites… this could be a big oops. G- do you have recommendations on an every day white and an every day red wine glass for those of us that don’t have space for 8 different types of glasses?

  • Sam Zengotitabengoa

    I agree… this is the best episode to date. Great knowledge. At home I use a montrachet styled glass for reds, and a bordeaux style glass for whites… this could be a big oops. G- do you have recommendations on an every day white and an every day red wine glass for those of us that don’t have space for 8 different types of glasses?

  • Marc Mc

    Gary,

    If the JETS ever win a Super Bowl you will love them more and want more Super Bowl wins. This, however, can bite you in the a@#. Going through the 70’s and 80’s was painful with the Packers, but a win against the Bears made you walk on water for a week. Move to the 90’s with the winning Packers, Brett, and the Super Bowls, you feel good all the time and grow to expect the winning ways. But now we have come full circle and I pray for a win against the Bears just to get that old feeling again.

    Question: What will you open if the JETS win the Super Bowl??????????????

  • Marc Mc

    Gary,

    If the JETS ever win a Super Bowl you will love them more and want more Super Bowl wins. This, however, can bite you in the a@#. Going through the 70’s and 80’s was painful with the Packers, but a win against the Bears made you walk on water for a week. Move to the 90’s with the winning Packers, Brett, and the Super Bowls, you feel good all the time and grow to expect the winning ways. But now we have come full circle and I pray for a win against the Bears just to get that old feeling again.

    Question: What will you open if the JETS win the Super Bowl??????????????

  • Roberto

    very interesting and well made…but I am not 100% agree with you.
    See Gary this two factor who are differenciating wines and flavors :
    * Food you eat
    * Glass you use
    * The room you are in
    But i am agree with you that sometimes you cannot tell the difference between the same wine in a different glass.
    Ciao

  • Roberto

    very interesting and well made…but I am not 100% agree with you.
    See Gary this two factor who are differenciating wines and flavors :
    * Food you eat
    * Glass you use
    * The room you are in
    But i am agree with you that sometimes you cannot tell the difference between the same wine in a different glass.
    Ciao

  • Jason R.

    Brandon – You O.K. Buddy? Get lost at the Pumpkin Patch with the fam??? Thats pretty awesome when none of us know each other, except from the blog and after 35 comments, people are looking for you!!!!

    Glasses – I have 9 (used to have 12) Schott Zweisel bordeaux glasses. They are my great everyday glass I drink 95% of my wines out of. I have some HUGE very thin glasses that sing, but I find that I struggle getting the smells out of them as they are so big. Also, we have 12 very fancy Lenox titantium tipped $40 each type glasses that I think SUCK!!! They look great, but I think the last time we had a big dinner we used them for water and I pulled out the good ol’ $8 Schott Zweisel Bordeaux glasses for the wine.

  • Jason R.

    Brandon – You O.K. Buddy? Get lost at the Pumpkin Patch with the fam??? Thats pretty awesome when none of us know each other, except from the blog and after 35 comments, people are looking for you!!!!

    Glasses – I have 9 (used to have 12) Schott Zweisel bordeaux glasses. They are my great everyday glass I drink 95% of my wines out of. I have some HUGE very thin glasses that sing, but I find that I struggle getting the smells out of them as they are so big. Also, we have 12 very fancy Lenox titantium tipped $40 each type glasses that I think SUCK!!! They look great, but I think the last time we had a big dinner we used them for water and I pulled out the good ol’ $8 Schott Zweisel Bordeaux glasses for the wine.

  • Dominus

    Ok Gary. Hereâ??s a question I like to give to my wine geeks sitting around the table when the conversation begins to lull which, unfortunately, happens often than I care to admit.

    If you were told that you could have any wine for your â??last supper,â? what would it be? And the foodie side of me asks, with what entrée?

    Dom

  • Dominus

    Ok Gary. Hereâ??s a question I like to give to my wine geeks sitting around the table when the conversation begins to lull which, unfortunately, happens often than I care to admit.

    If you were told that you could have any wine for your â??last supper,â? what would it be? And the foodie side of me asks, with what entrée?

    Dom

  • Albert and Remy

    GV,
    We thought we were going crazy buying all types of glasses, but the truth is that it does make a difference when you use the right glass. The taste of the wine barely changes, but the aromas coming out of the glass makes a big difference. You’ll be surprise when you drink out of the Riedel Vinum “Extreme” Bordeaux glass.
    Thank you again for a great episode. You validated our obsession with glassware.

  • Albert and Remy

    GV,
    We thought we were going crazy buying all types of glasses, but the truth is that it does make a difference when you use the right glass. The taste of the wine barely changes, but the aromas coming out of the glass makes a big difference. You’ll be surprise when you drink out of the Riedel Vinum “Extreme” Bordeaux glass.
    Thank you again for a great episode. You validated our obsession with glassware.

  • Susan

    Gary-
    I think you will always love the Jets NO matter what they do.
    Thanks for the super episode!
    I give this one a 100!!
    I would like to see more educational style episodes in the future.
    I am only a beginner who does not own any type of wine glasses soooooooooooooooo…..
    I really don’t personally know about differences with the type of wine glass.
    I am just happy that you are showing the differences. I used to think that it was just a gimick to sell more product!
    Thanks for all of the great education.
    Keep up the great work!!

  • Susan

    Gary-
    I think you will always love the Jets NO matter what they do.
    Thanks for the super episode!
    I give this one a 100!!
    I would like to see more educational style episodes in the future.
    I am only a beginner who does not own any type of wine glasses soooooooooooooooo…..
    I really don’t personally know about differences with the type of wine glass.
    I am just happy that you are showing the differences. I used to think that it was just a gimick to sell more product!
    Thanks for all of the great education.
    Keep up the great work!!

  • GOL

    Great episode, was really excited when I saw the topic and the ep delivered!

    QOD – My wife and I went to a new BYOB place a couple months ago. Gorgeous night, and they had outdoor seating, so we chose to sit outside. Problem with sitting outside is that the BYOB rules apparently only apply inside. Outside it was illegal to drink wine. We pleaded, and they agreed to give us coffee cups for our wine (so nobody could tell it was wine). We had brought a good Pinot Noir, I don’t remember what it was, but we weren’t too concerned about the mug/glass issue. Anyway, we both thought it ruined the wine, and we weren’t pre-disposed to thinking that glass-type matters much, and maybe it doesn’t, but in our experience with this particular wine on this particular night, the ceramic cup, in our opinion, totally muted the nose and the flavor.

  • GOL

    Great episode, was really excited when I saw the topic and the ep delivered!

    QOD – My wife and I went to a new BYOB place a couple months ago. Gorgeous night, and they had outdoor seating, so we chose to sit outside. Problem with sitting outside is that the BYOB rules apparently only apply inside. Outside it was illegal to drink wine. We pleaded, and they agreed to give us coffee cups for our wine (so nobody could tell it was wine). We had brought a good Pinot Noir, I don’t remember what it was, but we weren’t too concerned about the mug/glass issue. Anyway, we both thought it ruined the wine, and we weren’t pre-disposed to thinking that glass-type matters much, and maybe it doesn’t, but in our experience with this particular wine on this particular night, the ceramic cup, in our opinion, totally muted the nose and the flavor.

  • Wow…work indeed!!! Meetings today are killing me. Is it wrong for me to be in a HUGE meeting and think…I wonder how many posts are hapening RIGHT NOW? 🙂

    Vinum? Cmon gary Sommelier Series! That’s where it’s at….JK

    Great episode Gary….I love when you mix it up…PERFECT! Score on the show 98.

    I always tell everybody that the glass makes a big difference, and again I get mistaken for a wine snob just for mentioning Reidel. Now if Denyce would stop breaking them I could get a full set 🙂

    Forget what You like? There are definitely things that I question that you like, but that’s the fun of it all.

    If you are a true fan of ANY sports team, you will never give up or lose interest. LA Rams to the St. Louis Rams and I’m still a HUGE fan. The only difficult time I EVER had being a fan was the day I found out that Piazza was traded to the Marlins….uh Mets. To me, the only bad fan, is a 49er / Giant fan!

    I was hoping to get my Rocky Creek Zin today but it has no arrive yet! Maybe tomorra.

    AGAIN…GREAT GREAT EPISODE…THIS IS WHAT I MEANT BY MIXING IT UP!

    B

  • Wow…work indeed!!! Meetings today are killing me. Is it wrong for me to be in a HUGE meeting and think…I wonder how many posts are hapening RIGHT NOW? 🙂

    Vinum? Cmon gary Sommelier Series! That’s where it’s at….JK

    Great episode Gary….I love when you mix it up…PERFECT! Score on the show 98.

    I always tell everybody that the glass makes a big difference, and again I get mistaken for a wine snob just for mentioning Reidel. Now if Denyce would stop breaking them I could get a full set 🙂

    Forget what You like? There are definitely things that I question that you like, but that’s the fun of it all.

    If you are a true fan of ANY sports team, you will never give up or lose interest. LA Rams to the St. Louis Rams and I’m still a HUGE fan. The only difficult time I EVER had being a fan was the day I found out that Piazza was traded to the Marlins….uh Mets. To me, the only bad fan, is a 49er / Giant fan!

    I was hoping to get my Rocky Creek Zin today but it has no arrive yet! Maybe tomorra.

    AGAIN…GREAT GREAT EPISODE…THIS IS WHAT I MEANT BY MIXING IT UP!

    B

  • GOL…the wine lover in me says what a shame on the coffee cup, but the experience lover in me says that’s a story you can tell over and over…another great wine “experience” seeing as how
    good Pinot out of a bad cup is better than bad Pinot out of a good cup!

    B

  • Hey guys,

    Gary….I may be confused but didn’t you say there was a noticeable difference in tastes with the different wine glasses…..but at the end you said it doesn’t….did anyone else catch that or is it just me. By the way GREAT episode….you need to get the 04 Caymus in stock, cause Caymus is one of my favs……

    -Stallion

  • GOL…the wine lover in me says what a shame on the coffee cup, but the experience lover in me says that’s a story you can tell over and over…another great wine “experience” seeing as how
    good Pinot out of a bad cup is better than bad Pinot out of a good cup!

    B

  • Hey guys,

    Gary….I may be confused but didn’t you say there was a noticeable difference in tastes with the different wine glasses…..but at the end you said it doesn’t….did anyone else catch that or is it just me. By the way GREAT episode….you need to get the 04 Caymus in stock, cause Caymus is one of my favs……

    -Stallion

  • Karen,

    Hopefully, he was pulling our leg on the “not”. If not, then he was pulling our leg on the whole tasting. Trust me, if that’s the case, a LOT of viewers are going to be pissed and Gary is going to lose a lot of viewers because they won’t feel that they can trust him.

    Gary sent me an email saying that he was “stunned” by the difference between glasses, so I’m convinced that he was pulling our leg with the “not”.

  • Karen,

    Hopefully, he was pulling our leg on the “not”. If not, then he was pulling our leg on the whole tasting. Trust me, if that’s the case, a LOT of viewers are going to be pissed and Gary is going to lose a lot of viewers because they won’t feel that they can trust him.

    Gary sent me an email saying that he was “stunned” by the difference between glasses, so I’m convinced that he was pulling our leg with the “not”.

  • TimF

    In case anyone missed this on yesterday’s thread…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIgmh-lgI4c

  • TimF

    In case anyone missed this on yesterday’s thread…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIgmh-lgI4c

  • Dominus

    “Absolutely not!” I assume you were joking?

    I’ll let the little woman watch this episode and stop it before the last comment so she doesn’t give me any more wrath when I buy my next set of glasses.

  • Dominus

    “Absolutely not!” I assume you were joking?

    I’ll let the little woman watch this episode and stop it before the last comment so she doesn’t give me any more wrath when I buy my next set of glasses.

  • Cshell…I was gonna say Regis Filben

    Big Billy…great point on the Brandy…since the majority of our overall taste comes from smell, doesn’t it make sense that the glass makes a difference?

    Karen…is that Joe Pesci from 1962?

    Tony…didn’t you mean Vayndication?

    Ok…think I’m all caught up…Go Cards!

    B

  • Cshell…I was gonna say Regis Filben

    Big Billy…great point on the Brandy…since the majority of our overall taste comes from smell, doesn’t it make sense that the glass makes a difference?

    Karen…is that Joe Pesci from 1962?

    Tony…didn’t you mean Vayndication?

    Ok…think I’m all caught up…Go Cards!

    B

  • Hey, a big shout out to tampasteve for his intro! Where are you tampasteve???

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