EP 163 Turley Zinfandel Tasting and Reviews

Wines tasted in this episode:

    Turley Dogtown Zinfandel ’04 (Not Available)
    Turley Pesenti Zinfandel ’04 (Not Available)
    Turley Moore-earthquake Zin ’00 (Not Available)
    Turley Moore-earthquake Zin ’01 (Not Available)

    Links mentioned in todays episode.

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Turley wines have been some of the hottest over the last 5-10 years and with Owner Larry Turley and winemaker Ehren Jordan is in good hands. Gary Vaynerchuk will taste a few new wines and a few older vintages to see how they are acting!

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This weekend we tasted a horizontal flight of the 2004 Pesenti Zins. 6 bottles from the various blocks within the Pesenti vinyard. Your evaluation was consistent with what we found – all were about 16% and jammy – the standout was the Bastard Block.

Tags: red wines, Turley, Video, wine, wines, zinfandel

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  • Dave-from-Katonah

    “knowbody else’s”??????

  • pete c

    At our groups monthly wine tasting, Turley zin was bested by an Edgwood Estates 2001.

  • “knowbody else’s”??????

  • Darrell T.

    Turley zins finally!!!!! especially after the show about Ridge Zins!!!!!! GREAT

    I get Turley Zins from the winery so, thanks for tasting the 04 Pesenti i have two bottles in my cellar, however the turleys that i have drunk were the “02” juvenile and ’02’ Old vines both very delicious, but i enjoyed the Old Vines Zins more. In addition to the 04 Pesenti in the cellar i have 04 Duarte,Dragon,Uberroth and an Old Vine
    Also i enjoyed the Petitie Sirah tasting, especially the Quioxte.!

  • Darrell T.

    Turley zins finally!!!!! especially after the show about Ridge Zins!!!!!! GREAT

    I get Turley Zins from the winery so, thanks for tasting the 04 Pesenti i have two bottles in my cellar, however the turleys that i have drunk were the “02” juvenile and ’02’ Old vines both very delicious, but i enjoyed the Old Vines Zins more. In addition to the 04 Pesenti in the cellar i have 04 Duarte,Dragon,Uberroth and an Old Vine
    Also i enjoyed the Petitie Sirah tasting, especially the Quioxte.!

  • Nathan L

    Tartar with Sav blanc is a GREAT match! My parents are on the Turley mailing list so they have loads of the stuff. In fact they rented storage unit but just recently bought one and realized half their wine is Turley. They swear that it is the best pairing with pizza. I was surprised at your review of the Dogwood. Your bottle must have been in a dumb stage cause I’ve had the 2004 and thought it was the most elegant young Turley I’ve had.

  • Nathan L

    Tartar with Sav blanc is a GREAT match! My parents are on the Turley mailing list so they have loads of the stuff. In fact they rented storage unit but just recently bought one and realized half their wine is Turley. They swear that it is the best pairing with pizza. I was surprised at your review of the Dogwood. Your bottle must have been in a dumb stage cause I’ve had the 2004 and thought it was the most elegant young Turley I’ve had.

  • KenP

    Last time I ate steak tartare was in Paris, the early Eighties. To this day I cannot give blood to a local Red Cross due to the latency period of mad cow disease. Bon appetit!
    Good episode, Gary. Turley is one of the many names of New World excess. Twinkies in a bottle.

  • KenP

    Last time I ate steak tartare was in Paris, the early Eighties. To this day I cannot give blood to a local Red Cross due to the latency period of mad cow disease. Bon appetit!
    Good episode, Gary. Turley is one of the many names of New World excess. Twinkies in a bottle.

  • Jerry the 2THDR

    I was on the Turley waiting list for several years and now get a mailing from them twice a year where I get a small alottment of 8 to 9 varieties.. I buy about 2 cases a year but can only get 2 bottles of the Hayne Vinyard per year after ordering for 5 years. I am cutting back because I have a bunch of it and just got thru the 01’s. Giving these as gifts to restaurant owners opens doors for bringing my own wines to places that usually don’t provide for corkage.

  • Jerry the 2THDR

    I was on the Turley waiting list for several years and now get a mailing from them twice a year where I get a small alottment of 8 to 9 varieties.. I buy about 2 cases a year but can only get 2 bottles of the Hayne Vinyard per year after ordering for 5 years. I am cutting back because I have a bunch of it and just got thru the 01’s. Giving these as gifts to restaurant owners opens doors for bringing my own wines to places that usually don’t provide for corkage.

  • Allen K

    Gary, my wife and I love the Turley wines along with many other Paso wineries. We visit the area at least twice a year. You are right Turley wines are hard to come by. Try to get on there mailing list and they will tell you to be patient. We are sitting here enjoying a Tobin James 2004 Blue Moon Reserve Zin, on account of my friend getting a hole in one, you gotta celebrate! That happens once every blue moon. How about tasting some Tobin or Justin? Oh ya, Elyse Petit Syrah with steak tartare is a must.

  • Allen K

    Gary, my wife and I love the Turley wines along with many other Paso wineries. We visit the area at least twice a year. You are right Turley wines are hard to come by. Try to get on there mailing list and they will tell you to be patient. We are sitting here enjoying a Tobin James 2004 Blue Moon Reserve Zin, on account of my friend getting a hole in one, you gotta celebrate! That happens once every blue moon. How about tasting some Tobin or Justin? Oh ya, Elyse Petit Syrah with steak tartare is a must.

  • Ausy Reisling, High acid= Pure Flavors!

  • Ausy Reisling, High acid= Pure Flavors!

  • joe

    TAngora (post 55):

    I hate when Gary reviews wines under $10. I want to gain his input on world class, life changing experiences. Think of it this way, rather than buy 10 ordinary $7 wines, why not save those $$ and buy one life-changing $70 bottle that Gary reviews as life changing. You only live once.
    Joe

  • joe

    TAngora (post 55):

    I hate when Gary reviews wines under $10. I want to gain his input on world class, life changing experiences. Think of it this way, rather than buy 10 ordinary $7 wines, why not save those $$ and buy one life-changing $70 bottle that Gary reviews as life changing. You only live once.
    Joe

  • MiamiDolphins

    another great episode. .

  • MiamiDolphins

    another great episode. .

  • Steak tartare, I’ll have to go with Flowers Andreen Gale Cuvee Pinot Noir(2004)
    Tuna tartare – in a case with possibly ginger and wasabi, I love, love, love
    Bricco Quaglia moscato d’asti.
    Salmon? A nice New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc, Whitehaven perhaps.

    I eat tartare, yes I do, I eat tartare…how ’bout YOU?
    GAUX SAINTS!

  • Steak tartare, I’ll have to go with Flowers Andreen Gale Cuvee Pinot Noir(2004)
    Tuna tartare – in a case with possibly ginger and wasabi, I love, love, love
    Bricco Quaglia moscato d’asti.
    Salmon? A nice New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc, Whitehaven perhaps.

    I eat tartare, yes I do, I eat tartare…how ’bout YOU?
    GAUX SAINTS!

  • Miguelo DiMarco

    This reminds me of the Russian Vodka Room – NYC, theatre district — thin-sliced rare/raw beef, technically, it’s the Beef Carppacio appetizer – well, it’s vodka there, but I’d do a cabernet and the beauty Russian waitresses: if you’re really nice, one of them may give you a personal tour of Brighton Beach. . .

  • Miguelo DiMarco

    This reminds me of the Russian Vodka Room – NYC, theatre district — thin-sliced rare/raw beef, technically, it’s the Beef Carppacio appetizer – well, it’s vodka there, but I’d do a cabernet and the beauty Russian waitresses: if you’re really nice, one of them may give you a personal tour of Brighton Beach. . .

  • damon

    I’d have to go with champagne as well. I think I’ve had red with steak tartare,but can’t remember what it was. Come to think of it, it may have been a zinfandel.

  • damon

    I’d have to go with champagne as well. I think I’ve had red with steak tartare,but can’t remember what it was. Come to think of it, it may have been a zinfandel.

  • Deano

    Nice episode Gary!!! I wish I could get my hands on some of that Turley. Maybe one day when I am felling good I will order it at dinner.

    QOTD: WTF is tartare I have never had it lol

    P.S. With a SH!TLOAD of you and a liiiiiiiitle bit of me were changing the Wine World 🙂

  • Deano

    Nice episode Gary!!! I wish I could get my hands on some of that Turley. Maybe one day when I am felling good I will order it at dinner.

    QOTD: WTF is tartare I have never had it lol

    P.S. With a SH!TLOAD of you and a liiiiiiiitle bit of me were changing the Wine World 🙂

  • Jeff

    Hey there Gary–great show as always!
    I am on the list and get several bottles a year. I have a similar experience as you; some are massive and structured, beautiful mix of new and old world taste; while some (rare) are just big and fruity and the alcohol just puts me to sleep. They also make a fabulous white rhone style white that is hard to get, but really really old world in character, would be worth a try for you.
    It is best not to eat beef raw, but with tuna (pepper encrusted perhaps?) an acidic white is great, one with some body to it, like a sancerre, or an oregon pinot gris, or an german (dry) riesling (I think a loire valley chenin would work also, but have not tried it).
    Take care.
    Jeff

  • Jeff

    Hey there Gary–great show as always!
    I am on the list and get several bottles a year. I have a similar experience as you; some are massive and structured, beautiful mix of new and old world taste; while some (rare) are just big and fruity and the alcohol just puts me to sleep. They also make a fabulous white rhone style white that is hard to get, but really really old world in character, would be worth a try for you.
    It is best not to eat beef raw, but with tuna (pepper encrusted perhaps?) an acidic white is great, one with some body to it, like a sancerre, or an oregon pinot gris, or an german (dry) riesling (I think a loire valley chenin would work also, but have not tried it).
    Take care.
    Jeff

  • dobs

    What next? Screaming Eagle (now there’s a good critter wine!) or Yellow Tail vertical? Obviously, it’s not easy being all things to all people–some like the under-$10 wines and others want you to shoot for the moon. Maybe best to aim most segments for the silent majority of ‘tweeners in the $10-$30 range?

    I really enjoyed your Turley tasting especially after the Ridge zins. It seems as though both you and RP think the ’04’s don’t quite live up to the 01’s or even older vintages (other than the inferior ’00 and probably ’98). Maybe it’s just a blip (not that the ’04’s are that bad) and Turley will hit its stride again in ’05. Hope so! In the meantime, keep up the good work.

    Have a good trip!

    p.s. How long did it take the staff to suck down the Turley after you finished taping? Was it like shopping on the day after Thanksgiving? Did you have a lottery for the ’01?

  • dobs

    What next? Screaming Eagle (now there’s a good critter wine!) or Yellow Tail vertical? Obviously, it’s not easy being all things to all people–some like the under-$10 wines and others want you to shoot for the moon. Maybe best to aim most segments for the silent majority of ‘tweeners in the $10-$30 range?

    I really enjoyed your Turley tasting especially after the Ridge zins. It seems as though both you and RP think the ’04’s don’t quite live up to the 01’s or even older vintages (other than the inferior ’00 and probably ’98). Maybe it’s just a blip (not that the ’04’s are that bad) and Turley will hit its stride again in ’05. Hope so! In the meantime, keep up the good work.

    Have a good trip!

    p.s. How long did it take the staff to suck down the Turley after you finished taping? Was it like shopping on the day after Thanksgiving? Did you have a lottery for the ’01?

  • Pete J.

    Gary-Don’t get bored with the TV blog. You are terrific! Love your enthusiasm and your frankness. As I said before, you must have tasted, licked and or smelled just about everything on earth-how about some space references, ie moondust, etc. Keep it going, please. Pete J

  • Pete J.

    Gary-Don’t get bored with the TV blog. You are terrific! Love your enthusiasm and your frankness. As I said before, you must have tasted, licked and or smelled just about everything on earth-how about some space references, ie moondust, etc. Keep it going, please. Pete J

  • Robyn

    Okay here it goes a lurker out of the depths. Steak tartar is amazing wih served well, at a restaurant of impecable standards.I am sure you have many places of that caliber in NYC area, my favorite place for it is Bistro Jeanty in Yountville. I don’t know about a Turley with it, since it is served with among many things a raw egg. I usually order a Southern Rhone when we have it.

    We too love Paso wines, in fact we named our cat Turley!!! mostly because of her color also she tends to be a bit snotty in the attitude department. Ha ha

    Gary you made me care about Football this year.

    Go Chargers,

    Robyn in L.A.

  • Robyn

    Okay here it goes a lurker out of the depths. Steak tartar is amazing wih served well, at a restaurant of impecable standards.I am sure you have many places of that caliber in NYC area, my favorite place for it is Bistro Jeanty in Yountville. I don’t know about a Turley with it, since it is served with among many things a raw egg. I usually order a Southern Rhone when we have it.

    We too love Paso wines, in fact we named our cat Turley!!! mostly because of her color also she tends to be a bit snotty in the attitude department. Ha ha

    Gary you made me care about Football this year.

    Go Chargers,

    Robyn in L.A.

  • Ken

    Gary, good episode. It was timely in that you just looked at Ridge the other day. Personally, I feel that Ridge Zins are much better made, better balanced, more interesting, more complex, better â??bargainsâ? and more age worthy when compared to Turley Zins. Iâ??ve had some decent Turley juice but overall I find it to be overpriced.

    QOD: Tuna Tartare – Garnacha, Salmon Tartare – Champagne or another sparkler – perhaps Grenache. Champagne, Alsatian Riesling or Gruner Veltliner with sashimi or sushi though. Steak Tartare – I don’t eat it. However, I do like my steaks on the redder side of pink and prefer CA Cabs that are not “oak monsters”, Shiraz, and Syrah or other Rhone wines.

    Have fun in LA. By the way, what do you do with all of the wine that you open for the show? Were you having a Zin or Turley tasting party last night?

  • Ken

    Gary, good episode. It was timely in that you just looked at Ridge the other day. Personally, I feel that Ridge Zins are much better made, better balanced, more interesting, more complex, better â??bargainsâ? and more age worthy when compared to Turley Zins. Iâ??ve had some decent Turley juice but overall I find it to be overpriced.

    QOD: Tuna Tartare – Garnacha, Salmon Tartare – Champagne or another sparkler – perhaps Grenache. Champagne, Alsatian Riesling or Gruner Veltliner with sashimi or sushi though. Steak Tartare – I don’t eat it. However, I do like my steaks on the redder side of pink and prefer CA Cabs that are not “oak monsters”, Shiraz, and Syrah or other Rhone wines.

    Have fun in LA. By the way, what do you do with all of the wine that you open for the show? Were you having a Zin or Turley tasting party last night?

  • For steak tartare, the only tartare I’ve had, I like to have something along the lines of the Michel Colbois Chablis 1er Cru. Not sure if it’s available in teh USA, but we sell it at our shop in Ireland – great.

    For a steak tartare recipe that’s good, check out the recipe in Rick Stein’s French Oddessey as lots of restaurants in the USA are scared of serving it.

  • For steak tartare, the only tartare I’ve had, I like to have something along the lines of the Michel Colbois Chablis 1er Cru. Not sure if it’s available in teh USA, but we sell it at our shop in Ireland – great.

    For a steak tartare recipe that’s good, check out the recipe in Rick Stein’s French Oddessey as lots of restaurants in the USA are scared of serving it.

  • eugene

    QOTD:

    Steak tartare-cab frank (chinon or other loire)

    Tuna tartare-Gewürztraminer

    Salmon tartare-I don’t really like it and never order.

  • eugene

    QOTD:

    Steak tartare-cab frank (chinon or other loire)

    Tuna tartare-Gewürztraminer

    Salmon tartare-I don’t really like it and never order.

  • Spitfire

    Episode #157……

    Where da cheese?

    Eagles suck, Saints rule! WHO DAT?

    – Ben Lee, MS Gulf Coast

  • Spitfire

    Episode #157……

    Where da cheese?

    Eagles suck, Saints rule! WHO DAT?

    – Ben Lee, MS Gulf Coast

  • Thank you, thank you for reviewing Turley wines. Zindafandel is almost 1/2 of my red cellared wines with Turley, Ridge, Ravenswood single vineyards and Rosenblum single vineyards taking up the most space. Have been on the Turley list for 4 years so I didn’t have the 2000 wines but very few 2000 Zinds were any good in the first place. I think the year was an El Niõ and too wet like 2006 may be the wines seem diluted and in not drinking well for Cabs as well. I am also not a fan of Dogtown having tasted it at the Paso Robles tasting room from every year since 2001. Presenti is a better vineyard to begin with when you see its placemnent versus Dogtown. Again thanks for tasting these wines despite not selling them. That should shut up many of your detractors. Hope you still have more of the Earthquake 2001. I suspect your crew scarfed up the remains in seconds.

    As for tartare I only eat salmon and tuna and then always at my favorite sushi place and that means Sake mostly Onigaroshi a dry cold Sake. I used to trust steak tartare but with the contamination issues in beef no longer.

  • Thank you, thank you for reviewing Turley wines. Zindafandel is almost 1/2 of my red cellared wines with Turley, Ridge, Ravenswood single vineyards and Rosenblum single vineyards taking up the most space. Have been on the Turley list for 4 years so I didn’t have the 2000 wines but very few 2000 Zinds were any good in the first place. I think the year was an El Niõ and too wet like 2006 may be the wines seem diluted and in not drinking well for Cabs as well. I am also not a fan of Dogtown having tasted it at the Paso Robles tasting room from every year since 2001. Presenti is a better vineyard to begin with when you see its placemnent versus Dogtown. Again thanks for tasting these wines despite not selling them. That should shut up many of your detractors. Hope you still have more of the Earthquake 2001. I suspect your crew scarfed up the remains in seconds.

    As for tartare I only eat salmon and tuna and then always at my favorite sushi place and that means Sake mostly Onigaroshi a dry cold Sake. I used to trust steak tartare but with the contamination issues in beef no longer.

  • Nice show Veign-ear-Chluckth!! Oh wait, did I spell that wrong?

    I’ve always thought Turley’s were pretty rad, but sorta pricey. I bought one from my store (at cost!–so it was only $28 or $30 bucks). But all other Turley that I’ve had have been given to me from clients. The good thing about them is clients will get 3 or 4 cases of mixed Turley sent here and when I help them out, sometimes they’ll throw me a bone and grab a random Turley. The best one I’ve had was the 2001 Petite Syrah, Library VY. Freakin’ awesome! My wife loves them too.

    As for the QOTD: I don’t think I’ve ever had steak tar-tar. I enjoy adding tartar sauce to my deep fried fish…does that count? As for wine, whenever I do have a steak tartar, I’ll just drink whatever the heck I feel like having at that time.

    OK, take care man…GO BEARS!!! Have fun in California. Say “hello” for me.
    T

  • Nice show Veign-ear-Chluckth!! Oh wait, did I spell that wrong?

    I’ve always thought Turley’s were pretty rad, but sorta pricey. I bought one from my store (at cost!–so it was only $28 or $30 bucks). But all other Turley that I’ve had have been given to me from clients. The good thing about them is clients will get 3 or 4 cases of mixed Turley sent here and when I help them out, sometimes they’ll throw me a bone and grab a random Turley. The best one I’ve had was the 2001 Petite Syrah, Library VY. Freakin’ awesome! My wife loves them too.

    As for the QOTD: I don’t think I’ve ever had steak tar-tar. I enjoy adding tartar sauce to my deep fried fish…does that count? As for wine, whenever I do have a steak tartar, I’ll just drink whatever the heck I feel like having at that time.

    OK, take care man…GO BEARS!!! Have fun in California. Say “hello” for me.
    T

  • Wil H

    Is the Black and Pink boxing gloves an ode to the Donald Trump vs. Rosie O’Donnell fight?

  • Wil H

    Is the Black and Pink boxing gloves an ode to the Donald Trump vs. Rosie O’Donnell fight?

  • Bear Down

    What’s up Dale Hawerchuk (ex-Winnepeg Jet)

    I really enjoy Turleys as a whole. Although, I have been disappointed a couple of times. The 2001 Juvenile was nothing to write home about. Even at $35. I too was able to score some 2002 Old Vines Zin (with Tony S). Not bad. The best I’ve ever had it the 1999 P/S, Hayne.

    Unfortuately I find that it is worth it to drink the more expensive ones. However, the Old Vines is usually a good deal. Don’t bother with Juvenile (young vines).

    I treat Turley like Port (I don’t pair it with desert or cigars though). I drink it on it’s own (the best way) or maybe after a meal when I want to keep the party going.

    QOTD: No advise on Tartar.

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