EP 169 2005 German Rieslings

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Kabinett or Spatlese what is your choice? Gary Vaynerchuk goes through the white grape that has his attention these days. Please join us and leave a comment if you haven’t yet.

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I usually shy away from Riesling because of the too “Sweet” flavor I have always come across but after seeing this episode I am going out and trying more!!

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  • Riezin

    Great show, as a riesling lover its nice to see the attention (even if as someone mentioned we’d probably prefer the secret kept in the bag). I got a couple things to take issue with though from todays episode. 1. 5-7 years to last seems awfully conservative, riesling can kick ass at 10 and 15 years easy – esp on a strong, balanced vintage like 05. 2. How do you give a PASS to a wine you score 89, WS scores 93, and which costs only 18 bucks? That seems cruel and unusual. Also the comment posted earlier about the Mosel vs Nahe, etc is a detail worth mentioning to folks – Napa aint Sonoma and neither is Germany homogenous. QOTD – buying riesling, drinking loire reds. Have a great vaca and take the time, no need to tape.

  • Riezin

    Great show, as a riesling lover its nice to see the attention (even if as someone mentioned we’d probably prefer the secret kept in the bag). I got a couple things to take issue with though from todays episode. 1. 5-7 years to last seems awfully conservative, riesling can kick ass at 10 and 15 years easy – esp on a strong, balanced vintage like 05. 2. How do you give a PASS to a wine you score 89, WS scores 93, and which costs only 18 bucks? That seems cruel and unusual. Also the comment posted earlier about the Mosel vs Nahe, etc is a detail worth mentioning to folks – Napa aint Sonoma and neither is Germany homogenous. QOTD – buying riesling, drinking loire reds. Have a great vaca and take the time, no need to tape.

  • dadobs

    Great episode: one other upside of rieslings is that they’re still terrific 20-30+ years later; can’t say that about most Cali chards.

    QOTD: I’d like to claim something trendy like reisling or pinot, but with the colder temps I invariably come back to cabernet and the occasional shiraz/syrah. No different this winter even if cab juice is generally overpriced these days.

    Btw, my buddies who have been drinking wine far longer than me say that everyone eventually gravitates towards (German) rieslings,(often Burgundian) pinots, and dessert wines. Best wishes to Kirk (Post #59) the college student since he seems to have the palette of someone in his 50’s. Where does one go after dâ??Yquem?

    Take the days off entirely, Gary. You’ll come back better for it.

    Best laugh of the week: play the last section of the video (where GV corks the lens) in stop-action super-slow-mo. I’m still smiling 15 minutes later. You rule.

  • dadobs

    Great episode: one other upside of rieslings is that they’re still terrific 20-30+ years later; can’t say that about most Cali chards.

    QOTD: I’d like to claim something trendy like reisling or pinot, but with the colder temps I invariably come back to cabernet and the occasional shiraz/syrah. No different this winter even if cab juice is generally overpriced these days.

    Btw, my buddies who have been drinking wine far longer than me say that everyone eventually gravitates towards (German) rieslings,(often Burgundian) pinots, and dessert wines. Best wishes to Kirk (Post #59) the college student since he seems to have the palette of someone in his 50’s. Where does one go after dâ??Yquem?

    Take the days off entirely, Gary. You’ll come back better for it.

    Best laugh of the week: play the last section of the video (where GV corks the lens) in stop-action super-slow-mo. I’m still smiling 15 minutes later. You rule.

  • Alaska1

    I just got in to the wine world BIG

  • Alaska1

    I just got in to the wine world BIG

  • Shaggy D

    I just got addicted to German Riesling. About four weeks ago I ordered a Spatlese on a cruse in the carabian to eat with my lobster…. fantastic! My friends and I have since opened 8 or so other’s. They are alot of fun to share with friends who usualy don’t drink wine.

  • Shaggy D

    I just got addicted to German Riesling. About four weeks ago I ordered a Spatlese on a cruse in the carabian to eat with my lobster…. fantastic! My friends and I have since opened 8 or so other’s. They are alot of fun to share with friends who usualy don’t drink wine.

  • Alaska1

    Sorry, I just got into the wine world BIG time two years ago and riesling was my veryfirst love in the wine world, ( DR Loosen!!!) But now that I am trying to exspand my wine exsperiance I have found a new Love, Fruit bomb Zins. Love them. My hart will always be with Riesling.

    Ohhh and please tape some showes before you go I need Wine library in my week. Please!!1

  • Alaska1

    Sorry, I just got into the wine world BIG time two years ago and riesling was my veryfirst love in the wine world, ( DR Loosen!!!) But now that I am trying to exspand my wine exsperiance I have found a new Love, Fruit bomb Zins. Love them. My hart will always be with Riesling.

    Ohhh and please tape some showes before you go I need Wine library in my week. Please!!1

  • Ricky Bobby

    Riesling is the bomb. Repeat after me: hy-drom-et-er.

  • Ricky Bobby

    Riesling is the bomb. Repeat after me: hy-drom-et-er.

  • RedZin

    What does a jersey kid know about pumping gas? Does the mob allow self service now?

    Ok, ok, I’ll try a riesling, thanks for the education.

    As far as vacation, my wine rack is full for now so feel free to take a short break and recharge. The Jets are on vacation after all!

  • RedZin

    What does a jersey kid know about pumping gas? Does the mob allow self service now?

    Ok, ok, I’ll try a riesling, thanks for the education.

    As far as vacation, my wine rack is full for now so feel free to take a short break and recharge. The Jets are on vacation after all!

  • Doc Brown

    QOTD: Right now I am enjoying pure mourvedre’s the most. Example: Rosenblum’s old vine San Francisco Bay Mourvedre. Huge fruit, dark, a little high in alcohol but will smooth out over the next few years. Hey gary…..how about a show on mouved’s??

    Doc Brown

  • Doc Brown

    QOTD: Right now I am enjoying pure mourvedre’s the most. Example: Rosenblum’s old vine San Francisco Bay Mourvedre. Huge fruit, dark, a little high in alcohol but will smooth out over the next few years. Hey gary…..how about a show on mouved’s??

    Doc Brown

  • Sugar Shane

    You had me at Hulk Hogan. Great comparison! It’s like the time I got laughed at for smelling bananas in a wine I was drinking at an uppity wine bar. You saw the Hulkster, I smelled plantains. Dig it.

    QOD: Living in Oregon, I’m addicted to pinot…but I’m still learning to discover whatever anyone puts under my nose (even if I smell bananas).

    Thanks for making wine fun and not intimidating!

  • Sugar Shane

    You had me at Hulk Hogan. Great comparison! It’s like the time I got laughed at for smelling bananas in a wine I was drinking at an uppity wine bar. You saw the Hulkster, I smelled plantains. Dig it.

    QOD: Living in Oregon, I’m addicted to pinot…but I’m still learning to discover whatever anyone puts under my nose (even if I smell bananas).

    Thanks for making wine fun and not intimidating!

  • Ken

    Gary, Great episode. I love Riesling but Shhhhh!!!! â?? donâ??t make it so popular that the price skyrockets!!! Did you drink the wines today chilled or room temp? Have fun on vacation. Why donâ??t you take a break from the show and not pre-tape any episodes? If you canâ??t resist, tape maybe a few episodes. Keep the anticipation high! However, to celebrate your vacation you should throw us a free shipping code so that I can stock up on some Riesling.
    QOD: Reds â?? Iâ??m really into Grenacha, Grenacha blends, and Priorat. White: German Riesling mostly, Albarino & NZ Sauvignon Blanc a distant second.

  • Ken

    Gary, Great episode. I love Riesling but Shhhhh!!!! â?? donâ??t make it so popular that the price skyrockets!!! Did you drink the wines today chilled or room temp? Have fun on vacation. Why donâ??t you take a break from the show and not pre-tape any episodes? If you canâ??t resist, tape maybe a few episodes. Keep the anticipation high! However, to celebrate your vacation you should throw us a free shipping code so that I can stock up on some Riesling.
    QOD: Reds â?? Iâ??m really into Grenacha, Grenacha blends, and Priorat. White: German Riesling mostly, Albarino & NZ Sauvignon Blanc a distant second.

  • corked

    Take a vacation and don’t worry about taping. It’ll make your wife happy.
    Wine addicitons lately: Austrian Gruner Veltliner, specifically Wess Wachauer and Loimer. Always addicted to Marcel Deiss Pinot Gris from Alsace, it was one of those wines that completely changed my perspective on what wine could be. Bandol is my latest favorite region. Love Tempier. I think Mourvedre is going to get some name recognition soon.
    Have a good vacay.

  • hahahahaha… the “bounce pass” to the camera lens with the “OHHHHHHH that was AWESOME” made my laugh hard core! Nice 😉

    Gary, seriously enjoy your vacation!!! You will be missed!

    QOTD:
    – Sangiovese (and its clones): Chianti Classicos and Brunellos, even some new worlds
    – Malbec: from Argentina I’m more and more impressed by the value reds it produces, especailly malbec-based (an example: 2004 Bodega Norton Malbec Lujan de Cuyo Reserva). I really REALLY REALLY am curious about trying the Chat Lamartine Cahors Cuvee Particuliere 2003 (Library Code: 5963, ep 154) for an old-world malbec example. I wanted to make the “special request” but only wanted 2 bottles… any more coming in? Any thing super similar in QPR you’d recommend instead?

    Looking forward tothe live episode!
    -Nico

  • corked

    Take a vacation and don’t worry about taping. It’ll make your wife happy.
    Wine addicitons lately: Austrian Gruner Veltliner, specifically Wess Wachauer and Loimer. Always addicted to Marcel Deiss Pinot Gris from Alsace, it was one of those wines that completely changed my perspective on what wine could be. Bandol is my latest favorite region. Love Tempier. I think Mourvedre is going to get some name recognition soon.
    Have a good vacay.

  • hahahahaha… the “bounce pass” to the camera lens with the “OHHHHHHH that was AWESOME” made my laugh hard core! Nice 😉

    Gary, seriously enjoy your vacation!!! You will be missed!

    QOTD:
    – Sangiovese (and its clones): Chianti Classicos and Brunellos, even some new worlds
    – Malbec: from Argentina I’m more and more impressed by the value reds it produces, especailly malbec-based (an example: 2004 Bodega Norton Malbec Lujan de Cuyo Reserva). I really REALLY REALLY am curious about trying the Chat Lamartine Cahors Cuvee Particuliere 2003 (Library Code: 5963, ep 154) for an old-world malbec example. I wanted to make the “special request” but only wanted 2 bottles… any more coming in? Any thing super similar in QPR you’d recommend instead?

    Looking forward tothe live episode!
    -Nico

  • PeteB

    Thanks for the Riesling show GV! Timely, as I agree about getting into phases with wine and Rieslings are in favor for me right now and I am enjoying the ride – what value!!!! I can’t wait to try some from today’s show.

    Enjoy vacation!

  • PeteB

    Thanks for the Riesling show GV! Timely, as I agree about getting into phases with wine and Rieslings are in favor for me right now and I am enjoying the ride – what value!!!! I can’t wait to try some from today’s show.

    Enjoy vacation!

  • Badger Ann

    Thank you, Gary. The statements about Nahe wines are right on the money. The 2005 Donnhoff Kabinett Nahe is a great example of the wonderful dry wines from this region of Germany. By the way, has anyone here ever seen the vineyards in Germany where these grapes are grown? I think only a billy goat could climb those hillsides!

    QOTD: I’m working both ends of the spectrum these days – I’ve been buying Gruner Veltliner and Zinfandel. Apparently there are Rieslings from Austria too, though I have not found one yet. It would be neat to try one of these and compare to what comes from Germany.

  • Badger Ann

    Thank you, Gary. The statements about Nahe wines are right on the money. The 2005 Donnhoff Kabinett Nahe is a great example of the wonderful dry wines from this region of Germany. By the way, has anyone here ever seen the vineyards in Germany where these grapes are grown? I think only a billy goat could climb those hillsides!

    QOTD: I’m working both ends of the spectrum these days – I’ve been buying Gruner Veltliner and Zinfandel. Apparently there are Rieslings from Austria too, though I have not found one yet. It would be neat to try one of these and compare to what comes from Germany.

  • Mark Block

    Very interesting episode. I’m not a Riesling fan, but I’ll give it another try.

    In whites, my fave for a long time has been Viognier, although lately I’m on a Sauvignon Blanc kick because really good ones are so cheap. The Viognier wines I drink are mostly from California because a good Condrieu is expensive and the cheap ones from France are usually awful.

    I’m in the ABC camp: Chardonnay is OK for blending, but it’s one of my least favorites on its own. Actually, I’m a big believer in blends.

    Cabernet Sauvignon is by far my favorite red wine grape. Nothing else come close, but the contenders are, in order of my preference: Tempranillo, Sangiovese, Zinfandel, Malbec, Syrah. Some people love Syrah (like Parker), but in general the grape doesn’t do it for me. I basically subtract 5 points from any Parker Syrah review.

  • Mark Block

    Very interesting episode. I’m not a Riesling fan, but I’ll give it another try.

    In whites, my fave for a long time has been Viognier, although lately I’m on a Sauvignon Blanc kick because really good ones are so cheap. The Viognier wines I drink are mostly from California because a good Condrieu is expensive and the cheap ones from France are usually awful.

    I’m in the ABC camp: Chardonnay is OK for blending, but it’s one of my least favorites on its own. Actually, I’m a big believer in blends.

    Cabernet Sauvignon is by far my favorite red wine grape. Nothing else come close, but the contenders are, in order of my preference: Tempranillo, Sangiovese, Zinfandel, Malbec, Syrah. Some people love Syrah (like Parker), but in general the grape doesn’t do it for me. I basically subtract 5 points from any Parker Syrah review.

  • Celia

    A friend of mine likes riesling. I’ve not been fond of the sweetness that I remember, but I’m thinking one of these Kabs may change my mind. I’ll look for it next time I’m out.

    Please do NOT tape while you’re away, don’t pre-tape… just take a break and RELAX. We’re having so much fun with wltv – your resting up will hopefully give us outrageous epi’s after you get back!

    Stay safe and have fun!

  • Celia

    A friend of mine likes riesling. I’ve not been fond of the sweetness that I remember, but I’m thinking one of these Kabs may change my mind. I’ll look for it next time I’m out.

    Please do NOT tape while you’re away, don’t pre-tape… just take a break and RELAX. We’re having so much fun with wltv – your resting up will hopefully give us outrageous epi’s after you get back!

    Stay safe and have fun!

  • dan

    Riesling is catching up in the affluent urban cities of Singapore, Hong Kong and to a lesser extent Malaysia… ABC… good epsiode.

    Let’s just hope the 2005 Riesling prices will be sane like the burgundians and doesnt warrant the nightmare of the 2005 bordeauxs.

    Like what they said. Watching wine is the best way to understanding by the book. (Internet too)

  • dan

    Riesling is catching up in the affluent urban cities of Singapore, Hong Kong and to a lesser extent Malaysia… ABC… good epsiode.

    Let’s just hope the 2005 Riesling prices will be sane like the burgundians and doesnt warrant the nightmare of the 2005 bordeauxs.

    Like what they said. Watching wine is the best way to understanding by the book. (Internet too)

  • Oregon Jim

    I hav ebeen building my wine room all night and just poured a ’05 Pfalz Reisling from Mueller ($6 a bottle)and sat down to watch todays show. Gary you are in my head! I talk all the time to my friends about German Reisling. “I don’t like sweet wine” they say. I say you will like this one. And of course they do!
    Oregon Pinot is definitely my Red of choice but German and Alsace Reisling are the whites that rock me. I have a Dr Loosen 2004, a Trimbach 2004, and have you tested the Jacobs Creek Reserve at $9.00 a bottle? I like it cheap! I have never seen the brands you tested today, but will keep an eye out for them. $16 is in my range now and then.

    Great show. I wonder if you know how facinating you are. Stay real and go with your instinct. You are a original!

    Oregon Jim

  • Oregon Jim

    I hav ebeen building my wine room all night and just poured a ’05 Pfalz Reisling from Mueller ($6 a bottle)and sat down to watch todays show. Gary you are in my head! I talk all the time to my friends about German Reisling. “I don’t like sweet wine” they say. I say you will like this one. And of course they do!
    Oregon Pinot is definitely my Red of choice but German and Alsace Reisling are the whites that rock me. I have a Dr Loosen 2004, a Trimbach 2004, and have you tested the Jacobs Creek Reserve at $9.00 a bottle? I like it cheap! I have never seen the brands you tested today, but will keep an eye out for them. $16 is in my range now and then.

    Great show. I wonder if you know how facinating you are. Stay real and go with your instinct. You are a original!

    Oregon Jim

  • Think it’d be fun to do an episode on Muscadet as a follow-up to this episode on Rieslings. Muscadet(the ‘melon’ grape), to my young pallette, seems to have alot of similar properties to many of the Rieslings I’ve had. I’m enjoying a great ’03 at the moment. 😉

  • Think it’d be fun to do an episode on Muscadet as a follow-up to this episode on Rieslings. Muscadet(the ‘melon’ grape), to my young pallette, seems to have alot of similar properties to many of the Rieslings I’ve had. I’m enjoying a great ’03 at the moment. 😉

  • Vinifera

    Hey Gary –

    Great show on the rieslings. But, I have to say, while you did mention new world rielings you forgot to mention the rieslings from the Finger Lakes region of New York. We love our rieslings up here! In fact, Wine Spectator focused on some of these great wines in the May ’06 issue. I would love to gee you do a new world riesling taste-off, comparing Californian, Oregonian, and Finger Lakes rieslings…that would be too cool. Just don’t forget us :0

  • Vinifera

    Hey Gary –

    Great show on the rieslings. But, I have to say, while you did mention new world rielings you forgot to mention the rieslings from the Finger Lakes region of New York. We love our rieslings up here! In fact, Wine Spectator focused on some of these great wines in the May ’06 issue. I would love to gee you do a new world riesling taste-off, comparing Californian, Oregonian, and Finger Lakes rieslings…that would be too cool. Just don’t forget us :0

  • Gordon

    You rock Gary!!!

    I love German Rieslings.
    I remember being at a party where everyone were Chardonnay drinkers and I ordered a bottle of Reinhold Haart Spatlese. After twirling the glass for a few seconds they were intrigued by the bouquet. Needless to say the bottle was finished and I converted a bunch to Riesling. 🙂

  • Gordon

    You rock Gary!!!

    I love German Rieslings.
    I remember being at a party where everyone were Chardonnay drinkers and I ordered a bottle of Reinhold Haart Spatlese. After twirling the glass for a few seconds they were intrigued by the bouquet. Needless to say the bottle was finished and I converted a bunch to Riesling. 🙂

  • eugene

    Gary,
    Thanks for bringing Rieslings to the show. I am a big fan of them but so far I havenâ??t found German one that I like a lot. A few of them that I tried put me off with sweetness. I love Alsatians on the other hand. I guess my preference is for dry Rieslings.

    Yes please tape some episodes for us while youâ??re away and send some clips from vacation so Eric can insert them in the episode! Have a nice vacation, you deserve it.

    QOTD:

    I am recently into Loire wines both red and whites.

  • eugene

    Gary,
    Thanks for bringing Rieslings to the show. I am a big fan of them but so far I havenâ??t found German one that I like a lot. A few of them that I tried put me off with sweetness. I love Alsatians on the other hand. I guess my preference is for dry Rieslings.

    Yes please tape some episodes for us while youâ??re away and send some clips from vacation so Eric can insert them in the episode! Have a nice vacation, you deserve it.

    QOTD:

    I am recently into Loire wines both red and whites.

  • Gary,
    I love Thai food as well, and I’m torn between riesling and gewurztraminer for a pairing. I have to say that I’m leaning more towards a good gewurz with floral and lychee flavors. Regardless, I love riesling and that is my favorite wine overall. I’ve been trying some chenins but it is harder to find good chenin (Dry Creek Vineyard and Vouvray being exceptions).
    Don’t even THINK of taping an episode on vaycation!! relax and enjoy your time off.

  • Gary,
    I love Thai food as well, and I’m torn between riesling and gewurztraminer for a pairing. I have to say that I’m leaning more towards a good gewurz with floral and lychee flavors. Regardless, I love riesling and that is my favorite wine overall. I’ve been trying some chenins but it is harder to find good chenin (Dry Creek Vineyard and Vouvray being exceptions).
    Don’t even THINK of taping an episode on vaycation!! relax and enjoy your time off.

  • Fantastic coverage on the seldom shared Rieslings. It seems like every party you go to, never has a decent Riesling. I hope the hosts and hostesses out there see this!

    Ken

  • Fantastic coverage on the seldom shared Rieslings. It seems like every party you go to, never has a decent Riesling. I hope the hosts and hostesses out there see this!

    Ken

  • Raymond

    Gary,
    This would probably be the episode, which you had spat out the least.
    Those wines are indeed serious and undoubtedly delicious.

  • Raymond

    Gary,
    This would probably be the episode, which you had spat out the least.
    Those wines are indeed serious and undoubtedly delicious.

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