EP 178 Wine ratings?

 

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Wine Ratings what do they mean and how does Gary stack his scores against these 90+ scored wines from the MAJOR press.

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Paul Trampert

Definitely wine basket. Wouldn’t trust myself to make wine in a dorm room. Also, GREAT SHOW! Just started taking Mr. Boyer’s Geography of Wine class at Virginia Tech and he has us watch your show as part of our homework. Keep up the good work!

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  • Victoria

    QOTD: Definitely a wine basket!

  • Victoria

    QOTD: Definitely a wine basket!

  • cgf

    Gary,
    Good soapbox today. It is good to bring home that point every now and then, in case we forget.

    QOTD: No doubt the basket.

  • cgf

    Gary,
    Good soapbox today. It is good to bring home that point every now and then, in case we forget.

    QOTD: No doubt the basket.

  • cgf

    Oh, and I could not agree with you more on the Provenance SB. I had it over Thanksgiving, and I did not find it as hot or off balance as you did, but just really bland. It did not bring much to the table. I guess I am too used to the really aromatic and snappy New Zealand Sauvignon Blancs. when i looked up that wine’s score in the WS online, i thought it was a joke or a misprint.

  • cgf

    Oh, and I could not agree with you more on the Provenance SB. I had it over Thanksgiving, and I did not find it as hot or off balance as you did, but just really bland. It did not bring much to the table. I guess I am too used to the really aromatic and snappy New Zealand Sauvignon Blancs. when i looked up that wine’s score in the WS online, i thought it was a joke or a misprint.

  • Portland Guy

    Basket, very large Basket

  • Portland Guy

    Basket, very large Basket

  • canadian-kid

    QOTD: Wine basket…filled with bordeauxs and burgundys

  • canadian-kid

    QOTD: Wine basket…filled with bordeauxs and burgundys

  • SoCal

    Gary,
    Good rant!
    I would agree that ratings are over blown.
    I have often wondered if perhaps a little pay-o-la… errrrr… lobbying is involved.
    Please more Spanish wines in the $12-25 price range worth trying!

    QOTD: At first I would say wine basket , unless I got a Oooaky Beast!

  • SoCal

    Gary,
    Good rant!
    I would agree that ratings are over blown.
    I have often wondered if perhaps a little pay-o-la… errrrr… lobbying is involved.
    Please more Spanish wines in the $12-25 price range worth trying!

    QOTD: At first I would say wine basket , unless I got a Oooaky Beast!

  • yoshi

    QOTH – Definately a wine making kit.
    I voted for you

  • yoshi

    QOTH – Definately a wine making kit.
    I voted for you

  • Badger Ann

    QOTD: Basket! Then I can enjoy it immediately with friends and family.

    It was interesting to hear your review of the 2005 D’Arenberg The Hermit Crab. This weekend, I had opened a bottle of the 2004 Hermit Crab, and I didn’t find it to be nearly as complex as you had described for the following year’s effort. Why the difference – year, bottle, palate? I’ll go get the 2005 and find out for myself!

  • Badger Ann

    QOTD: Basket! Then I can enjoy it immediately with friends and family.

    It was interesting to hear your review of the 2005 D’Arenberg The Hermit Crab. This weekend, I had opened a bottle of the 2004 Hermit Crab, and I didn’t find it to be nearly as complex as you had described for the following year’s effort. Why the difference – year, bottle, palate? I’ll go get the 2005 and find out for myself!

  • JavaMonkey

    Great show. I need to learn more about whites.

    QOTD: definitely a wine basket. I have no desire to make wine (although I have made beer in the past), I just want to drink and enjoy.

  • JavaMonkey

    Great show. I need to learn more about whites.

    QOTD: definitely a wine basket. I have no desire to make wine (although I have made beer in the past), I just want to drink and enjoy.

  • BruceP

    QOTD – basket, unless you’re also providing access to some good grapes from the Sonoma Coast and someone who can turn them into decent wine.

  • BruceP

    QOTD – basket, unless you’re also providing access to some good grapes from the Sonoma Coast and someone who can turn them into decent wine.

  • SpaceJay

    QOTD – Basket…and throw in a good food pairing.

  • SpaceJay

    QOTD – Basket…and throw in a good food pairing.

  • L.I. Frank

    QOTD- basket over a winemaking kit any day.
    You got my vote!

  • L.I. Frank

    QOTD- basket over a winemaking kit any day.
    You got my vote!

  • Grasshopper

    Sensei,

    Great episode and I agree and try to not pay as too much attention to ratings and focus on the tasting notes BUT, to spend my hard earned money on a wine that I have no idea if it MIGHT be good or not is hard. There are thousands and thousands of wines and there is a much better chance of me liking a wine if it received a good score by you, WS, RP, Kahuna, Brandon or anyone who might have liked it and gave it high marks….I am not saying I am a sheep, but I beleive it increases my odds with getting something of higher quality. We have all walked into a wine store or restaraunt and purchased a wine unseen or unrated and have been disappointed. And I am not saying I like every wine I try that has been rated with a high score or recomended by someone, but it does increase the odds of it being worth while.

    QOD – Wine basket

    Thanks,

    Grasshopper

  • Grasshopper

    Sensei,

    Great episode and I agree and try to not pay as too much attention to ratings and focus on the tasting notes BUT, to spend my hard earned money on a wine that I have no idea if it MIGHT be good or not is hard. There are thousands and thousands of wines and there is a much better chance of me liking a wine if it received a good score by you, WS, RP, Kahuna, Brandon or anyone who might have liked it and gave it high marks….I am not saying I am a sheep, but I beleive it increases my odds with getting something of higher quality. We have all walked into a wine store or restaraunt and purchased a wine unseen or unrated and have been disappointed. And I am not saying I like every wine I try that has been rated with a high score or recomended by someone, but it does increase the odds of it being worth while.

    QOD – Wine basket

    Thanks,

    Grasshopper

  • E-Rock

    I’ll take the kit

  • E-Rock

    I’ll take the kit

  • Dominus

    QOTD: Yes, wine kit, easy. I’ve had a million wine baskets, not one wine kit.

    I’ll have to try The Hermit Crab this weekend.

    Cheers!

  • Karen Lorentz

    Basket, please. That’s all I have time for. (Unless the basket is crap.)

  • Dominus

    QOTD: Yes, wine kit, easy. I’ve had a million wine baskets, not one wine kit.

    I’ll have to try The Hermit Crab this weekend.

    Cheers!

  • Karen Lorentz

    Basket, please. That’s all I have time for. (Unless the basket is crap.)

  • Matt B DC

    Interesting episode. It seemed to me like you were trying to be harder on those first two wines just because of the score factor. Then again, I think scores are total and complete nonsense. Dollar-to-fruit value considered, any wine can be a complete steal or a total rip-off. 2004 El Toqui Syrah was an absolutely incredible wine that I would’ve give a 98 to as I enjoyed it in a restaurant for $8 a glass. I’ve done some research since then and it turns out I can get the stuff for $8.99 a bottle. It’s a flat 100 after taking into account the quality:price ratio.

    As for the QOTD, I’d rather have a basket anyday. Here in DC, the terroir is . . . well, let’s just say it isn’t savory.

    Thanks for another great episode.

  • Matt B DC

    Interesting episode. It seemed to me like you were trying to be harder on those first two wines just because of the score factor. Then again, I think scores are total and complete nonsense. Dollar-to-fruit value considered, any wine can be a complete steal or a total rip-off. 2004 El Toqui Syrah was an absolutely incredible wine that I would’ve give a 98 to as I enjoyed it in a restaurant for $8 a glass. I’ve done some research since then and it turns out I can get the stuff for $8.99 a bottle. It’s a flat 100 after taking into account the quality:price ratio.

    As for the QOTD, I’d rather have a basket anyday. Here in DC, the terroir is . . . well, let’s just say it isn’t savory.

    Thanks for another great episode.

  • John Blue Label

    Gary,
    Nice discussion. I actually will spend the time and read the tasting notes for a premium bottle of wine. I feel I have to do my due diligence to make sure I’m not making a big mistake. That’s why I find WLTV so valuable. And Chris’s spreadsheet really helps. For a lower priced wine, if I see a good score, I don’t feel too bad about spending a few bones and giving it a whirl.
    QOTD: Wine basket: don’t have time to make my own.

    JW

  • John Blue Label

    Gary,
    Nice discussion. I actually will spend the time and read the tasting notes for a premium bottle of wine. I feel I have to do my due diligence to make sure I’m not making a big mistake. That’s why I find WLTV so valuable. And Chris’s spreadsheet really helps. For a lower priced wine, if I see a good score, I don’t feel too bad about spending a few bones and giving it a whirl.
    QOTD: Wine basket: don’t have time to make my own.

    JW

  • Rick “The Model” M

    awesome episode today man

  • Rick “The Model” M

    awesome episode today man

  • Chad’s Bumb Shoulder

    Basket all the way. When you reviewing VA wines?

  • Chad’s Bumb Shoulder

    Basket all the way. When you reviewing VA wines?

  • Chad’s Bum Shoulder

    Typo on name. Sorry.

  • Chad’s Bum Shoulder

    Typo on name. Sorry.

  • Celia

    great episode today!
    Basket all the way… especially if it where put together by you, maybe for the novice. Different varietals in like-price ranges!

  • Celia

    great episode today!
    Basket all the way… especially if it where put together by you, maybe for the novice. Different varietals in like-price ranges!

  • lizzy42

    Wine basket :O) Great episode!

  • lizzy42

    Wine basket :O) Great episode!

  • Chad’s Bum Shoulder

    I’ll let the experts make the wine. I’ll enjoy the wine and stare at the basket.

  • Chad’s Bum Shoulder

    I’ll let the experts make the wine. I’ll enjoy the wine and stare at the basket.

  • Vinifera

    Great episode! I’m so going to seek out that ‘Hermit Crab’…..

    I would definitely take the wine kit. Even though I love good wine…I don’t earn enough to drink $20 or more bottles daily. Some of the higher end wine kits cost about $100-$150 and make 30…bottles of wine…and thats not 30 bottles of crap wine…..figure wine in the $15-20 category. Not to mention…it is a RUSH coming home from work and pushing down the grape cap on your OWN Santa Ynez Syrah….or pressing or bottling your own Super-Tuscan. Imagine making a decent tasting Amarone for $4/bottle. Ahhh…I’m drooooooooling….

  • Vinifera

    Great episode! I’m so going to seek out that ‘Hermit Crab’…..

    I would definitely take the wine kit. Even though I love good wine…I don’t earn enough to drink $20 or more bottles daily. Some of the higher end wine kits cost about $100-$150 and make 30…bottles of wine…and thats not 30 bottles of crap wine…..figure wine in the $15-20 category. Not to mention…it is a RUSH coming home from work and pushing down the grape cap on your OWN Santa Ynez Syrah….or pressing or bottling your own Super-Tuscan. Imagine making a decent tasting Amarone for $4/bottle. Ahhh…I’m drooooooooling….

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