EP 178 Wine ratings?

 

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Wine Ratings what do they mean and how does Gary stack his scores against these 90+ scored wines from the MAJOR press.

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Paul Trampert

Definitely wine basket. Wouldn’t trust myself to make wine in a dorm room. Also, GREAT SHOW! Just started taking Mr. Boyer’s Geography of Wine class at Virginia Tech and he has us watch your show as part of our homework. Keep up the good work!

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  • JonE

    Tough qunadry on the scroes G-Man, I feel your pain. But have been tonning out Holly’s Blend specifically because of its scroe at my two shops. I too shared your opinion though, it was good not 90 points good. As for the Hermit Crab, I hope the 05′ was all they you say it is. Because the 04′ was a bomb, a bad stinky bowl of flinty swamp bomb. Oh, if we could only blame it on stelvin.

    QOTD: Wine basket by far. I respect winemakers too much, and know that I am not skilled in their trade though thoroughly enjoy their efforts.

  • JonE

    Tough qunadry on the scroes G-Man, I feel your pain. But have been tonning out Holly’s Blend specifically because of its scroe at my two shops. I too shared your opinion though, it was good not 90 points good. As for the Hermit Crab, I hope the 05′ was all they you say it is. Because the 04′ was a bomb, a bad stinky bowl of flinty swamp bomb. Oh, if we could only blame it on stelvin.

    QOTD: Wine basket by far. I respect winemakers too much, and know that I am not skilled in their trade though thoroughly enjoy their efforts.

  • Marc Mc

    wine basket, I don’t want to make wine in WI, too hard to source good grapes.

    I may try Crushpad.

  • Marc Mc

    wine basket, I don’t want to make wine in WI, too hard to source good grapes.

    I may try Crushpad.

  • TimF

    QOD: basket…

  • TimF

    QOD: basket…

  • awin

    I do not totally buy into wine ratings but they can be guide. I perfer to taste the wine before I buy but I do not always have the opp so I will use Robert Park for resource.

  • awin

    I do not totally buy into wine ratings but they can be guide. I perfer to taste the wine before I buy but I do not always have the opp so I will use Robert Park for resource.

  • Salvatore

    Basket……….hands down! Who wants to wait a year or more for who knows what! Been there, done that. Scores sometimes help…. pick a very good wine…sometimes Not!

  • Salvatore

    Basket……….hands down! Who wants to wait a year or more for who knows what! Been there, done that. Scores sometimes help…. pick a very good wine…sometimes Not!

  • R/Eason

    Gary,

    I like scores, especially when I get a feel for the critic’s palate. Then scores are informative. Why does it matter? Well, if I’m going to drop 30 or 40 bones on a bottle, I like to have some sense (even if it’s only a sketchy sense) of what I’m getting into. Yeah, of course it’s important to decide for one’s self. No kidding. That’s a given. Or at least it ought to be. But sometimes it’s also nice to have a forecast of things to come. I check the weather forecast every morning. Likewise, I’m only too happy to check a critic’s palate forecast on a particular wine before I let it get between me and my bones. Are the forecasters always right? Of course not. But much of the time they are right. Otherwise I (quickly) stop paying any attention to them.

    I’m still paying attention, Gary.

    R/Eason

  • R/Eason

    Gary,

    I like scores, especially when I get a feel for the critic’s palate. Then scores are informative. Why does it matter? Well, if I’m going to drop 30 or 40 bones on a bottle, I like to have some sense (even if it’s only a sketchy sense) of what I’m getting into. Yeah, of course it’s important to decide for one’s self. No kidding. That’s a given. Or at least it ought to be. But sometimes it’s also nice to have a forecast of things to come. I check the weather forecast every morning. Likewise, I’m only too happy to check a critic’s palate forecast on a particular wine before I let it get between me and my bones. Are the forecasters always right? Of course not. But much of the time they are right. Otherwise I (quickly) stop paying any attention to them.

    I’m still paying attention, Gary.

    R/Eason

  • QOTD: WL gift certificate. Oh wait. Not a choice. Basket.

    Shout Out: Ooh boy. Tough choice. Decisions, decisions, decisions. Who am I kidding? You got my vote, Wine Guy.

    Lars

  • QOTD: WL gift certificate. Oh wait. Not a choice. Basket.

    Shout Out: Ooh boy. Tough choice. Decisions, decisions, decisions. Who am I kidding? You got my vote, Wine Guy.

    Lars

  • Brookhouser

    Wow……good advice…I have to admit at times I go for the scores being a newbie to the wineworld.

    QOTD: The Gift basket…..The only way I would make wine is if I could buy the whole damn vineyard….and well….pockets aren’t quite deep enough yet!

  • Kyle “The K Man” Davis

    I know this probably won’t mean anything but I just wanted to say that I skip over the wines that are graded so high. In fact, I focus on the wines that aren’t scored and make my own scores in my record book at home…It’s a lot more fun that way and it provides a huge variety….I’m only 21 so I’m new to the wine tasting but I must tell you man, your show has got me groovin with the grapes a lot now! I told my Mom tonight when we had a bottle of Mondavi merlot “Mom the complexity is all over the place”….she basically stopped what she was doing and went “What on God’s green earth are you talking about?”…..classic wine moment.

    Later man

    Kyle “The K Man” Davis

    PS – Tailgate next season is a definite.

  • Brookhouser

    Wow……good advice…I have to admit at times I go for the scores being a newbie to the wineworld.

    QOTD: The Gift basket…..The only way I would make wine is if I could buy the whole damn vineyard….and well….pockets aren’t quite deep enough yet!

  • Kyle “The K Man” Davis

    I know this probably won’t mean anything but I just wanted to say that I skip over the wines that are graded so high. In fact, I focus on the wines that aren’t scored and make my own scores in my record book at home…It’s a lot more fun that way and it provides a huge variety….I’m only 21 so I’m new to the wine tasting but I must tell you man, your show has got me groovin with the grapes a lot now! I told my Mom tonight when we had a bottle of Mondavi merlot “Mom the complexity is all over the place”….she basically stopped what she was doing and went “What on God’s green earth are you talking about?”…..classic wine moment.

    Later man

    Kyle “The K Man” Davis

    PS – Tailgate next season is a definite.

  • leatherpalate

    Zen and the art of wine tasting.
    Let’s face it,’scores’ are pretty
    useful marketing tools especially
    when the price is right.
    Had the Provenance on Sun. liked it a bit
    more than Gary but had it with all kinds of
    food including yeah that’s right “authentic Gumbo”
    and it rocked. Great episode.

    QOD.Basket hands down. anything with the word ‘ making’ in
    it implies work.

  • leatherpalate

    Zen and the art of wine tasting.
    Let’s face it,’scores’ are pretty
    useful marketing tools especially
    when the price is right.
    Had the Provenance on Sun. liked it a bit
    more than Gary but had it with all kinds of
    food including yeah that’s right “authentic Gumbo”
    and it rocked. Great episode.

    QOD.Basket hands down. anything with the word ‘ making’ in
    it implies work.

  • Basket.

  • Basket.

  • Shotgun

    QOD– Huh? Basket o’bargain cooked blended fortified grape juice? Do-it-yourself-salmonella-farm?

    No. I will wait for the WL Gulfstream charter to Rhone Valley or Santa Barbara or Adelaide, sipping 100 point wines along the way.

  • Shotgun

    QOD– Huh? Basket o’bargain cooked blended fortified grape juice? Do-it-yourself-salmonella-farm?

    No. I will wait for the WL Gulfstream charter to Rhone Valley or Santa Barbara or Adelaide, sipping 100 point wines along the way.

  • winejedi

    great episode gary. QOTD: i’ll take the wine basket. do you need my shipping address?;)

  • winejedi

    great episode gary. QOTD: i’ll take the wine basket. do you need my shipping address?;)

  • RyanWV

    qod…….wine basket….
    Where is the wedding ring Gary? I have no clue why i noticed this.

  • RyanWV

    qod…….wine basket….
    Where is the wedding ring Gary? I have no clue why i noticed this.

  • KimW

    basket of course

  • KimW

    basket of course

  • mikeyrad

    QOTD, wine basket. I wish I had the time to make wine, but I don’t so I’ll leave it up to the experts.

    As far as wine ratings and criticism, I think that their value has more to do with evaluating wine critics that the wines themselves. Since I don’t have the time or budget to taste every wine that Parker, WS or GV does, I base some of my wine buying decisions on their recommendations. If I consistently disagree with a particular critic, I won’t read his or her column, and therefore won’t buy wines based on his/her recommendations. On the other hand, if I find a critic whose tastes are in sync with my own, I’ll be more inclined to buy wines based on his/her judgments.

  • mikeyrad

    QOTD, wine basket. I wish I had the time to make wine, but I don’t so I’ll leave it up to the experts.

    As far as wine ratings and criticism, I think that their value has more to do with evaluating wine critics that the wines themselves. Since I don’t have the time or budget to taste every wine that Parker, WS or GV does, I base some of my wine buying decisions on their recommendations. If I consistently disagree with a particular critic, I won’t read his or her column, and therefore won’t buy wines based on his/her recommendations. On the other hand, if I find a critic whose tastes are in sync with my own, I’ll be more inclined to buy wines based on his/her judgments.

  • Susan

    Gary-
    Great, Great Rant!
    I am behind you 200% !!
    It is clear in the forum that more people
    need to think for themselves!
    I got berated for thinking in the forum!
    I am telling everyone I am going to insist on being a free thinker!
    🙂

  • Susan

    Gary-
    Great, Great Rant!
    I am behind you 200% !!
    It is clear in the forum that more people
    need to think for themselves!
    I got berated for thinking in the forum!
    I am telling everyone I am going to insist on being a free thinker!
    🙂

  • Fun ep and rant. Although while I trust my own palate, I don’t know if a wine is good before I taste it. And if I’m going to make an expensive purchase, wine ratings are a must. That’s why we turn to people we trust like Parker and Gary V!

    QOD: Definitely Wine basket!

  • Fun ep and rant. Although while I trust my own palate, I don’t know if a wine is good before I taste it. And if I’m going to make an expensive purchase, wine ratings are a must. That’s why we turn to people we trust like Parker and Gary V!

    QOD: Definitely Wine basket!

  • Canuckchuk

    I’d give your show today an 86. Funny nose and not much of a finish.

    When are you reviewing BC wines? There is life north of Washington state.

    -Canuckchuk

  • Canuckchuk

    I’d give your show today an 86. Funny nose and not much of a finish.

    When are you reviewing BC wines? There is life north of Washington state.

    -Canuckchuk

  • Suzanne

    Another cool episode. I try to not think about the ratings; I’m way too impressionable.
    QOTD: I’d have to say the wine basket.

  • Suzanne

    Another cool episode. I try to not think about the ratings; I’m way too impressionable.
    QOTD: I’d have to say the wine basket.

  • Susan

    Gary-
    QOD:
    Basket
    Basket
    Tisket a Tasket!
    I want a wine Basket!!!
    🙂

  • Susan

    Gary-
    QOD:
    Basket
    Basket
    Tisket a Tasket!
    I want a wine Basket!!!
    🙂

  • E

    Basket. Preferably full of weird Italian grapes I’ve never heard of.

    I’m interested in tasting notes and I don’t mind point chasing–it doesn’t usually involve the kinds of wine I’m interested in, so let ’em have their fun. Just so long as Rhone prices don’t go the way of Bordeaux …

    But I must confess, I’ve chased points before. I ran across something interesting in an old Spectator several years ago, and was fortunate enough to find (locally!) some Chateau de Lascaux. It kicked all kinds of ass and turned me on to the Languedoc. So that worked out all right.

  • E

    Basket. Preferably full of weird Italian grapes I’ve never heard of.

    I’m interested in tasting notes and I don’t mind point chasing–it doesn’t usually involve the kinds of wine I’m interested in, so let ’em have their fun. Just so long as Rhone prices don’t go the way of Bordeaux …

    But I must confess, I’ve chased points before. I ran across something interesting in an old Spectator several years ago, and was fortunate enough to find (locally!) some Chateau de Lascaux. It kicked all kinds of ass and turned me on to the Languedoc. So that worked out all right.

  • DebbieL

    QOTD: Basket. I’m a great cook, but can’t see making my own wine.

  • DebbieL

    QOTD: Basket. I’m a great cook, but can’t see making my own wine.

  • Dave-from-Katonah

    Great show, Gary Vay-Ner-CHUK!! Great energy. Great mood. You’re on a roll.
    I love it when you throw some caution to the wind and make us think about ratings. Even better was that episode on divergent scores btwn WS and WA/RP. I gotta go and seek out some new whites…
    QOTD – wineBASKET over kit 24/7/365!! 100% of the time.
    PS You’ve got my vote!

  • Great show, Gary Vay-Ner-CHUK!! Great energy. Great mood. You’re on a roll.
    I love it when you throw some caution to the wind and make us think about ratings. Even better was that episode on divergent scores btwn WS and WA/RP. I gotta go and seek out some new whites…
    QOTD – wineBASKET over kit 24/7/365!! 100% of the time.
    PS You’ve got my vote!

  • manual

    wine kit! but with a basket that i can fill to give away to friends. great episode. i appreciate your constant reminder that it’s up to to the individual to form and protect their own palatte. hey everybody, drink more white zinfandel! save those nasty little brunellos for me.

  • manual

    wine kit! but with a basket that i can fill to give away to friends. great episode. i appreciate your constant reminder that it’s up to to the individual to form and protect their own palatte. hey everybody, drink more white zinfandel! save those nasty little brunellos for me.

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