EP 197 Blind Tasting

Wines tasted in this episode:

Question of the day: “What’s the biggest discrepancy you’ve seen in a bottle of wine?”

Here it is the blind tasting episode. Can Gary Vaynerchuk be fooled?

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Have had Ex Libris did not like it, like Murphy Goode Zin, like Montes Alpha Chard. QOTD-?? http://www.winelx.com

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  • Russ J

    That was great! Maybe next time, place all of the wines into identical decanters to get away from the bottle shape/size issue.

    QOTD: I was in a rush and needed a gift bottle so I dropped $50 at a local shop for a Cali Meritage, a 2001, can’t remember anything more. When I got home, I couldn’t help but check the WL site. $36.99! Oh, what a burn!

  • 2004 Kosta Browne Kantzler Vineryard @ $425 at wine bank when it is only $175 at Per Se…

  • Rob M.

    Thanks for doing the blind tasting. I canâ??t wait to try a blind tasting with my friends.

    Amazing call on the PV- â??Petite Verdot, I got your back.â? Classic GV quote.

    Biggest swing: Ridge Monte Bello Cab 2003- WL price 93.99
    B-21 (on-line and bricks @ mortar store outside of Tampa, FL, delivers free to Orlando, usually with competitive pricing)- $119.95

    â??Donâ??t dis Patrick Ewingâ???? Here is my best Patrick Ewing story. In 1982 (or so), I was watching SportsCenter (in their infancy), and they interviewed Patrick Ewing after his Freshman season. When asked what he needs to improve upon in his sophomore season, he said, â??I think there are two fings (â??thingsâ?), my shooting, my dribbling, and my defense.â?

    SS Chris, watch out for that Georgetown education!

  • Rob M.

    Thanks for doing the blind tasting. I canâ??t wait to try a blind tasting with my friends.

    Amazing call on the PV- â??Petite Verdot, I got your back.â? Classic GV quote.

    Biggest swing: Ridge Monte Bello Cab 2003- WL price 93.99
    B-21 (on-line and bricks @ mortar store outside of Tampa, FL, delivers free to Orlando, usually with competitive pricing)- $119.95

    â??Donâ??t dis Patrick Ewingâ???? Here is my best Patrick Ewing story. In 1982 (or so), I was watching SportsCenter (in their infancy), and they interviewed Patrick Ewing after his Freshman season. When asked what he needs to improve upon in his sophomore season, he said, â??I think there are two fings (â??thingsâ?), my shooting, my dribbling, and my defense.â?

    SS Chris, watch out for that Georgetown education!

  • RandyB

    GV,

    Fun episode. Way to nail the Petite Verdot but to not get the Zin…it must have been bad. My apologies to Lars.

    QOTD: Biggest discrepancy I’ve seen is in the purchase price of a 2001 Beringer Private Reserve. After RP’s 95 or 96 prices went through the roof. Even so, I was able to find a bottle for $69 but some of the local discounters carried it at $110 and the online folks were at $120+.

    Note to Orion Slayer:

    No mega stores exist around here with the pricing WineLibrary consistently puts up. Wine Thieves in Lafayette, CA for their unique inventory and screaming deals and your local Beverages & More are your best bets. Buy online!

    Ciao

  • RandyB

    GV,

    Fun episode. Way to nail the Petite Verdot but to not get the Zin…it must have been bad. My apologies to Lars.

    QOTD: Biggest discrepancy I’ve seen is in the purchase price of a 2001 Beringer Private Reserve. After RP’s 95 or 96 prices went through the roof. Even so, I was able to find a bottle for $69 but some of the local discounters carried it at $110 and the online folks were at $120+.

    Note to Orion Slayer:

    No mega stores exist around here with the pricing WineLibrary consistently puts up. Wine Thieves in Lafayette, CA for their unique inventory and screaming deals and your local Beverages & More are your best bets. Buy online!

    Ciao

  • Benji

    QOTD:

    Biggest discrepency that I have found from my experiences in buying wine was this past October, around Halloween. Was looking on erobertparker.com in the (Find Online!) option of the website for the 1998 vintage Joseph Phelps Insignia, and found a Texas wine shop having a closeout on 750ml bottles of their Insignia for $36.83/btl (have invoices!). A California wine shop was selling the same bottle (750ml) for $280.00/btl. About a $2900 difference in price if buying buy the case…yikes!

  • Benji

    QOTD:

    Biggest discrepency that I have found from my experiences in buying wine was this past October, around Halloween. Was looking on erobertparker.com in the (Find Online!) option of the website for the 1998 vintage Joseph Phelps Insignia, and found a Texas wine shop having a closeout on 750ml bottles of their Insignia for $36.83/btl (have invoices!). A California wine shop was selling the same bottle (750ml) for $280.00/btl. About a $2900 difference in price if buying buy the case…yikes!

  • Marc

    2003 Van Duzer Oregon Pinot Noir. Got it at a grocery for $16, then went down the street to a wine store and saw it for $26. By the way, good full-bodied Pinot in my opinion. Good for $16, average for $26.

  • Marc

    2003 Van Duzer Oregon Pinot Noir. Got it at a grocery for $16, then went down the street to a wine store and saw it for $26. By the way, good full-bodied Pinot in my opinion. Good for $16, average for $26.

  • Dave-from-Katonah

    Great show Gary V!!!! Way to hang it all out there for the Vayniacs! You are the man. Three out of four!! Chad P. wishes he was that good a QB! I knew you would get that Petit Verdot!! This blind tasting needs to be like once every other month or so. Great shots of the store, which I HAVE TO visit for like a week or so!

    QOTD – Patricia Green Pinot Noir – locally I paid $35. Two months later I discovered WLTV had it for $23. I was a devout WLTVer ever since.

  • Great show Gary V!!!! Way to hang it all out there for the Vayniacs! You are the man. Three out of four!! Chad P. wishes he was that good a QB! I knew you would get that Petit Verdot!! This blind tasting needs to be like once every other month or so. Great shots of the store, which I HAVE TO visit for like a week or so!

    QOTD – Patricia Green Pinot Noir – locally I paid $35. Two months later I discovered WLTV had it for $23. I was a devout WLTVer ever since.

  • leatherpalate

    Gary I truly believe kids in bus. school should be watching this to see the future of customer service. We asked for it and we got it! Awesome job you were in the game on all four bottles and hit a G.S with the Petite V.-nice. Easily a top ten episode you get a 94 plus L.P.

    QOD: Kind of new to the wine game but scooped the last two bottles of a late harvest riesling from Amity Vineyards(2000?) in Oregon for 25/per saw them for auction the next month for 50-75 per. Also pretty much everything I buy from WL is 10-20% cheaper than my local ‘super’ wine store….

  • leatherpalate

    Gary I truly believe kids in bus. school should be watching this to see the future of customer service. We asked for it and we got it! Awesome job you were in the game on all four bottles and hit a G.S with the Petite V.-nice. Easily a top ten episode you get a 94 plus L.P.

    QOD: Kind of new to the wine game but scooped the last two bottles of a late harvest riesling from Amity Vineyards(2000?) in Oregon for 25/per saw them for auction the next month for 50-75 per. Also pretty much everything I buy from WL is 10-20% cheaper than my local ‘super’ wine store….

  • mas

    I am truly impressed Gary – that was way cool. You know your stuff!

    QOTD: 1999 Chateau Latour for $119 – I had no idea at the time what the score was on this wine and I knew that this was probably as close to affordable as I was going to get to buying a first-growth Bordeaux. Later saw it online for between $176-$225.

    On the downside – it was a Vegas steakhouse where I paid $85 for a $30 bottle of 1998 David Bruce – and that was about the best I could do to keep it under $100!

  • mas

    I am truly impressed Gary – that was way cool. You know your stuff!

    QOTD: 1999 Chateau Latour for $119 – I had no idea at the time what the score was on this wine and I knew that this was probably as close to affordable as I was going to get to buying a first-growth Bordeaux. Later saw it online for between $176-$225.

    On the downside – it was a Vegas steakhouse where I paid $85 for a $30 bottle of 1998 David Bruce – and that was about the best I could do to keep it under $100!

  • Brookhouser

    great episode! 3 out of 4!

    QOTD….Started drinking wine and wanted to try the famous Ruffino Gold label….Paid 40.00…what a rip and bug time after tasting! Learned quickly

  • Brookhouser

    great episode! 3 out of 4!

    QOTD….Started drinking wine and wanted to try the famous Ruffino Gold label….Paid 40.00…what a rip and bug time after tasting! Learned quickly

  • Gary,

    I don’t know if you have superb magician skills or if you really can identify grapes between hemispheres, identify grape varieties, and their relative prices, but either way, I found it an impressive performance.

  • Gary,

    I don’t know if you have superb magician skills or if you really can identify grapes between hemispheres, identify grape varieties, and their relative prices, but either way, I found it an impressive performance.

  • BV

    Fun show, Gar’ and impressive — don’t tell me you don’t have X-ray vision!

    Comments-wise, I thought Lars gave every bit as good as he got on this go-around.

    Possible suggestion to DaveyDonut: I was getting the buffering every 5 seconds, too. So I just quit out of it for about 3 minutes, and when I came back, it was smooth sailing from stem to stern.

    Thanks again for a fun one.

    THERE ARE NONE SO BLIND AS THOSE WHO WILL NOT TASTE!

    Bill V.

  • BV

    Fun show, Gar’ and impressive — don’t tell me you don’t have X-ray vision!

    Comments-wise, I thought Lars gave every bit as good as he got on this go-around.

    Possible suggestion to DaveyDonut: I was getting the buffering every 5 seconds, too. So I just quit out of it for about 3 minutes, and when I came back, it was smooth sailing from stem to stern.

    Thanks again for a fun one.

    THERE ARE NONE SO BLIND AS THOSE WHO WILL NOT TASTE!

    Bill V.

  • Julius

    For someone who has been in the business for about 14 years, about 10 of which were at legal drinking age, and who professes to conduct frequent and extensive wine tastings, I would give you an okay score, perhaps an 85. And at the blind tastings I have attended, including the one this week with Richard Betts, we ignored the price but rather identified the varietal, region and vintage (range).

  • Dom

    Now that was fun and you nailed 3 out of 4. I’m impressed though none would have stood up to the Dominus but that’s another story.

    Good job.

    QOTD: Sometimes I peruse the wine auction sites and have picked up a bottle of Dom or Ducru Beaucaillou for $60 or thereabouts and then see it at a nice wine shop for $150+.

    A short story: A friend and I went to a restaurant in DC that allowed us to BYOB (American only) and I brought an’85 Opus One and he brought an ’89 Dominus which the restaurant sold for over $350 for each. My friend and I REALLY enjoyed the wine.

    Cheers!

  • Julius

    For someone who has been in the business for about 14 years, about 10 of which were at legal drinking age, and who professes to conduct frequent and extensive wine tastings, I would give you an okay score, perhaps an 85. And at the blind tastings I have attended, including the one this week with Richard Betts, we ignored the price but rather identified the varietal, region and vintage (range).

  • Dom

    Now that was fun and you nailed 3 out of 4. I’m impressed though none would have stood up to the Dominus but that’s another story.

    Good job.

    QOTD: Sometimes I peruse the wine auction sites and have picked up a bottle of Dom or Ducru Beaucaillou for $60 or thereabouts and then see it at a nice wine shop for $150+.

    A short story: A friend and I went to a restaurant in DC that allowed us to BYOB (American only) and I brought an’85 Opus One and he brought an ’89 Dominus which the restaurant sold for over $350 for each. My friend and I REALLY enjoyed the wine.

    Cheers!

  • joe

    You are unbelievable. I cannot imagine being able to call out a Petite Verdot in a blind tasting. Afterall it must be at most 0.5% of all non-blended finished wines. It would never even occur to me to think about Petite Verdot in a blind tasting. Blind tastings are so hard, I thought a 2003 Ornellia for a 2002 Rutherford Cabernet. Seriously, the Petite Verdot call, may be the single most impressive feat I have ever heard of in all of wine tasting lore.
    Joe

  • joe

    You are unbelievable. I cannot imagine being able to call out a Petite Verdot in a blind tasting. Afterall it must be at most 0.5% of all non-blended finished wines. It would never even occur to me to think about Petite Verdot in a blind tasting. Blind tastings are so hard, I thought a 2003 Ornellia for a 2002 Rutherford Cabernet. Seriously, the Petite Verdot call, may be the single most impressive feat I have ever heard of in all of wine tasting lore.
    Joe

  • Harley Stan

    Gary,
    That was impressive! I am way to new to this game to even come close, I might be able to guess red from white but not much more. I hope you do this again soon. I was also wondering if you could combine next thursdays taste along with a live episode at some point in the future. With a little bit of you and all of us we could possibly have the worlds largest wine tasting if it were at a time that most people could participate. WWW. could be refered the World Wide Winetasting. Anyway that was just a thought I had today.
    QOTD- If I go to town (Denver) I can get Yellow TailShiraz for about 8 bones, in my little town it runs about 11 bones. Not a huge difference in actual bones but about 30% total cost.

  • Harley Stan

    Gary,
    That was impressive! I am way to new to this game to even come close, I might be able to guess red from white but not much more. I hope you do this again soon. I was also wondering if you could combine next thursdays taste along with a live episode at some point in the future. With a little bit of you and all of us we could possibly have the worlds largest wine tasting if it were at a time that most people could participate. WWW. could be refered the World Wide Winetasting. Anyway that was just a thought I had today.
    QOTD- If I go to town (Denver) I can get Yellow TailShiraz for about 8 bones, in my little town it runs about 11 bones. Not a huge difference in actual bones but about 30% total cost.

  • jack

    QOTD:

    i was shopping at my local bevmo (beverages & more, wine store chain in ca) and saw a couple bottles of 2003 chateau leoville barton in the glass case of the bordeaux section. i recall seeing it in the wine spectator top 10 of 2006, and this purchase was shortly after release of the list, so i grabbed a few at $80. at the time, i had no idea who much in demand this was. checked around and found it to be selling for at least $150, for the places lucky enough to still have it in stock. you’d think with case production of 18,000+ that there’s be enough to go around for everybody.

  • jack

    QOTD:

    i was shopping at my local bevmo (beverages & more, wine store chain in ca) and saw a couple bottles of 2003 chateau leoville barton in the glass case of the bordeaux section. i recall seeing it in the wine spectator top 10 of 2006, and this purchase was shortly after release of the list, so i grabbed a few at $80. at the time, i had no idea who much in demand this was. checked around and found it to be selling for at least $150, for the places lucky enough to still have it in stock. you’d think with case production of 18,000+ that there’s be enough to go around for everybody.

  • Susan

    Gary-
    Extremely impressed
    and
    happy with this ep!
    WOW!
    You did very well
    with the blind tasting.
    We got to see
    what Ian looks like.
    We got to see
    another tour of WL.
    You did a
    SUPER job on guessing
    region/varietal and price
    on
    each of the four.
    Still can’t believe you nailed the Petite Verdot!!!
    WOW!!!!
    QOD: Still to new to compare.
    🙂

  • Susan

    Gary-
    Extremely impressed
    and
    happy with this ep!
    WOW!
    You did very well
    with the blind tasting.
    We got to see
    what Ian looks like.
    We got to see
    another tour of WL.
    You did a
    SUPER job on guessing
    region/varietal and price
    on
    each of the four.
    Still can’t believe you nailed the Petite Verdot!!!
    WOW!!!!
    QOD: Still to new to compare.
    🙂

  • Susan

    Correction:
    QOD:
    Still TOO New!

  • Susan

    Correction:
    QOD:
    Still TOO New!

  • H-Why

    Gary – nice work on your guesses. You were definitely thinking Zin for the Nalle and you clearly said Chile first for the Purple Angel. Blind tasting is a great way to remind us all that you really do know what you are doing.

  • H-Why

    Gary – nice work on your guesses. You were definitely thinking Zin for the Nalle and you clearly said Chile first for the Purple Angel. Blind tasting is a great way to remind us all that you really do know what you are doing.

  • Lil Luce

    I am very impressed and hope that I can have a nose and palate like yours one day!

    QOTD: I used to work in a wine store in Montgomery Co, MD, where the County has taxed the wine prices into oblivion. For instance – Muga Bianca was about $22. At Wine Library, it’s $10. The first time I went to the WL store, I was like a kid in a candy store. I had never seen such great prices.

  • Lil Luce

    I am very impressed and hope that I can have a nose and palate like yours one day!

    QOTD: I used to work in a wine store in Montgomery Co, MD, where the County has taxed the wine prices into oblivion. For instance – Muga Bianca was about $22. At Wine Library, it’s $10. The first time I went to the WL store, I was like a kid in a candy store. I had never seen such great prices.

  • koenraad

    Great tasting, prolly usin’ terminatrix/T3-technology

    QOTD: in a local supermarket they sold wine ‘packs’, some 5 liters, of some Bulgarian cabarnet, of which I bought 3 (15.00 EUR = 19.6725 USD each). A few hours later I saw 4 of them for free on the dNb-party I was attending (0,00 EUR = 0,0000 USD each). People were giving them away for obvious reasons.

    I love my neigbourhood

    PS I AM A BIRD

  • koenraad

    Great tasting, prolly usin’ terminatrix/T3-technology

    QOTD: in a local supermarket they sold wine ‘packs’, some 5 liters, of some Bulgarian cabarnet, of which I bought 3 (15.00 EUR = 19.6725 USD each). A few hours later I saw 4 of them for free on the dNb-party I was attending (0,00 EUR = 0,0000 USD each). People were giving them away for obvious reasons.

    I love my neigbourhood

    PS I AM A BIRD

  • koenraad

    And I wish to add:

    discrepancy = infinite

  • koenraad

    And I wish to add:

    discrepancy = infinite

  • Jon B.

    Have had no problems with the new format I like it alot. Great episode you nailed the Murphy Goode, nice call. Blind tasting very fun bring it again soon. QOTD Bran Caia 02 Chianti Classico paid 11 and have seen for 35 else where not bad.

  • Jon B.

    Have had no problems with the new format I like it alot. Great episode you nailed the Murphy Goode, nice call. Blind tasting very fun bring it again soon. QOTD Bran Caia 02 Chianti Classico paid 11 and have seen for 35 else where not bad.

  • John Blue Label

    Gary,
    That was a lot of fun. You done good, man. It takes some cahones to do that for the record.
    JW

  • ken

    Overall, you did a pretty good job on guessing the wines. Iâ??m sure you did a better job than I would I would be able to. With the Ex Libris, you never guessed the varietal. I was a bit surprised that you got the Petit Verdot. Though I guess I shouldnâ??t be too surprised because doesnâ??t Verdot mean green? Little green grape â?? it really doesnâ??t sound too appealing, does it? Iâ??ll have to think about the QOD before answering.

    For the next blind tasting I have a suggestion; taste the wines of 4 different winemakers that you have had on the show in the past. That could get a bit scary, no?

  • John Blue Label

    Gary,
    That was a lot of fun. You done good, man. It takes some cahones to do that for the record.
    JW

  • ken

    Overall, you did a pretty good job on guessing the wines. Iâ??m sure you did a better job than I would I would be able to. With the Ex Libris, you never guessed the varietal. I was a bit surprised that you got the Petit Verdot. Though I guess I shouldnâ??t be too surprised because doesnâ??t Verdot mean green? Little green grape â?? it really doesnâ??t sound too appealing, does it? Iâ??ll have to think about the QOD before answering.

    For the next blind tasting I have a suggestion; taste the wines of 4 different winemakers that you have had on the show in the past. That could get a bit scary, no?

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