I’m a newbie. Started watching a week or so ago.

QOTD

I have never had a kosher wine- period.

Hi Gary, it’s too bad you didn’t have any outstanding wines in this episode. I visited my brother in Tel Aviv recently, and the bartender at a nice little wine bar/brasserie (called Lucas off the main strip on Allenby) served us flights of Israeli wines, some kosher, some not. There were some very nice wines, with good colour, concentration, and balance; even great ones with good complexity. However, there were a couple which were too sweet and over-oaked. I think there’s great potential there, especially with winemakers paying more attention to modern trends.

QOTD: I did buy a very nice cabernet sauvignon , which I enjoyed very much,at the duty-free on my way back home to Canada. I can’t remember the name of the producer, since all the writing on the bottle was in Hebrew. I bought it for $24usd, which is a great number, since it reminds me of the best safety in the NFL, Michael Huff, from the Oakland Raiders, who will have their way with your Jets later on this season 😉

Cheers!

Like the Bossman, I am essentially a newbie. The more I learn about wine the more I realise I don’t know anything. I always drank wine I liked without bothering to learn, meaning that I could never duplicate the experience.
That’s too bad about the wines today. There is too much other good stuff out there for less money to seek any of these out.
QOTD: I grew up listening to the Jewish kids in my class–easily a third of the grade school was Jewish–carry on to each other about “that’s not Kosher!” (usually one of the girls to one of the boys as he started to bite into a ham sandwich or a candy bar) and the guy telling her to shut up or worse. I always sided with the boys, so I’ve never had a Kosher wine.

Looks like the Kosher wine world hasn’t changed all that much in the last 36 months after all. Good episode anyway.QOTD I’ve had zero Kosher wines or at least to my knowledge .Thanks GV and WLTV crew.

QOTD: I’ve never had an over $20 kosher wine. But the first wine I ever tasted was Mogen David, which was the only wine my German Lutheran grandmother ever served. At age 8, I thought it was fine stuff.

Interesting episode, too bad none of the wines really panned out, it would have been fun to try something kosher.

QOTD: I’ve only tried some Manischewitz that my roommate decided I needed to try…needless to say I’ve stayed clear since then!

Gary, great episode.
QOTD- I don’t believe I have tried a Kosher wine yet.

Gary,

Thanks for the effort today. No big payoffs in great wine recomendations, but continuing to educate and enlighten.

QOTD: none that I know of or can remember . . .

thanks
John

QOTD: No.

GARY V – What the heck are you going to do with all of the 2005 Covenant you have in inventory after that show?? Who would buy it for 70 bones?

QOTD: Never had a kosher wine.

As someone who drinks Kosher, I have tried many many over 20 USD kosher wines. I am sort of shocked that in the two kosher episodes you didnt cover the el ram, considered the best israeli wine by rogov, the castel, the C Chard of castel or the odem organic (15 bones and excellent chard). As you keep reiterating, Israel is bringing serious thunder, as I found out on a wonderful wine tour through that country. And I would like to see that represented on WLTV.
Re the covenant, thanks for doing that as I was going to bother someone to try their bottle. But now I can avoid pestering my friend and instead get myself a bottle of the highly touted spanish kosher wines of which 3 came out this week.
BTW, Kosher wine is not blessed by a rabbi. What makes it kosher is that it is not touched by gentiles, since Jewish law presupposes that gentiles may use the wine for idolatry. While this prohibition was Mitigated in the middle ages, allowing jews to trade wine with their gentile neighbors, a previously forbidden activity and one that was TREMENDOUSLY economically important (see Piero Camporesi on the role of wine in the Middle Ages, or Haym Soloveitchiks forthcoming book on the topic of Jewish gentile wines) the taboo against consuming the wine was not taken away in Ashkenazic Jewish culture. other Jewish cultures, such as Italian Jews, were more leninent in the prohibition (Toaff, Wine Women and Death). While Jews in Medieval Cairo managed to drink with their Muslim neighbors (!!!) by slipping some honey into the wine to make in “unfit for the altar” of the idols (Goitein, Mediterranean Society). Something like this continues today in the widespread practice of making wines Mevushal– cooking them so as to make them unfit for sacrifice. Rogov and others feel that Mevushal wines often taste cooked and I dont think he rates any of them. Finally, while the wine laws may seem discriminatory, and have their origin in a kind of bigotry, today they are merely a part of the cultural heritage of orthodox jews. Few if any Orthodox Jews think that their non-jewish neighbors are worshipping idols or engaging the the ancient middle eastern sacrificial cults. But all orthodox Jews feel the need to maintain their unique culture by scrupulously drinking kosher wine.

As someone who drinks Kosher, I have tried many many over 20 USD kosher wines. I am sort of shocked that in the two kosher episodes you didnt cover the el ram, considered the best israeli wine by rogov, the castel, the C Chard of castel or the odem organic (15 bones and excellent chard). As you keep reiterating, Israel is bringing serious thunder, as I found out on a wonderful wine tour through that country. And I would like to see that represented on WLTV.
Re the covenant, thanks for doing that as I was going to bother someone to try their bottle. But now I can avoid pestering my friend and instead get myself a bottle of the highly touted spanish kosher wines of which 3 came out this week.
BTW, Kosher wine is not blessed by a rabbi. What makes it kosher is that it is not touched by gentiles, since Jewish law presupposes that gentiles may use the wine for idolatry. While this prohibition was Mitigated in the middle ages, allowing jews to trade wine with their gentile neighbors, a previously forbidden activity and one that was TREMENDOUSLY economically important (see Piero Camporesi on the role of wine in the Middle Ages, or Haym Soloveitchiks forthcoming book on the topic of Jewish gentile wines) the taboo against consuming the wine was not taken away in Ashkenazic Jewish culture. other Jewish cultures, such as Italian Jews, were more leninent in the prohibition (Toaff, Wine Women and Death). While Jews in Medieval Cairo managed to drink with their Muslim neighbors (!!!) by slipping some honey into the wine to make in “unfit for the altar” of the idols (Goitein, Mediterranean Society). Something like this continues today in the widespread practice of making wines Mevushal– cooking them so as to make them unfit for sacrifice. Rogov and others feel that Mevushal wines often taste cooked and I dont think he rates any of them. Finally, while the wine laws may seem discriminatory, and have their origin in a kind of bigotry, today they are merely a part of the cultural heritage of orthodox jews. Few if any Orthodox Jews think that their non-jewish neighbors are worshipping idols or engaging the the ancient middle eastern sacrificial cults. But all orthodox Jews feel the need to maintain their unique culture by scrupulously drinking kosher wine.

Day Two Newbie,

Thanks for the great show. Never knew that Kosher came that high dollar.

QOTD- Bever had one, that I know of.

Gary,

good episode, glad to see you are actually kind of following that email I sent you…

However, one of my favorite WLTV moments ever was your reaction at the end of the show! Way to keep it real and not sugar coat!

QOTD: No, haven’t had one yet…and judging by that last comment, I definitely will not have a Covenant! MUA HA HA!

QOTD: Definitely not any of the kosher ones my parents have bought for holidays, but maybe. I’ve had a couple good kosher wines at orthodox Rabbis’ houses for Passover seders. Not sure what they cost.

QOTD: Now that I think about it, I had some pretty nice kosher wines at a winery in Israel. Not sure if they were awesome or if it was just the atmosphere.

I was going to comment: hey, thanks for trying such an expensive wine for us, but then it’s such an irony. QOTD: For Kosher, I normally drink Baron Herzog, either Cab Sauvignon or Zinfandel, and they’re both under $20. I like the Zinfandel the most.

QOTD: Nope

QOTD – No, not over $20

I don’t trust Napa Cabs and I have fallen off Parker’s bandwagon, so I was not surprised by that last wine. Parker’s palette (I always feel like I’ve spelled that wrong) and mine do not get along.

Newbie! not really – just wanted to see if I get a response.
It would have been interesting to hear more about what makes a kosher wine kosher.
QOTD – Have not had a kosher wine other than – you guessed it = super sweet Manashewitz.
Thanks for another good episode.

Newbie! not really – just wanted to see if I get a response.
It would have been interesting to hear more about what makes a kosher wine kosher.
QOTD – Have not had a kosher wine other than – you guessed it = super sweet Manashewitz.
Thanks for another good episode.

SUGGESTION:

Add a “Kosher” checkbox to Corkd.

Holy…. i’ve never seen the wind taken out of your sails like that! It absolutely reminds me of this Brunello I purchased that tasted like Riesling. I was completely flabbergasted as you appeared to be. I’ve never tried a Kosher wine but would love to. I really need something different than the first two you described to get me interested though.

Haven’t had a chance to try any; in fact, haven’t seen them in stores in this part of the country.