EP 367 Box Wine Tasting

Can box wine be good? That is a question that maybe taking a very interesting spin in a new direction, as more and more under 25 year old wine drinkers enter the wine market wineries are thinking of new ways to brand to that demo and today Gary Vaynerchuk tastes some of the newer efforts in the market.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Bandit Pinot Grigio
2006 Bota Box Chadonnay

2004 Cuvee de Pena
2005 Thirsty Lizard Shiraz

Links mentioned in todays episode.

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John__J

I'm open to wines in a box, although I feel dubious about them and have never bought one and don't have any plans to. I'm definitely not into wines in a can however, I know Coppola's even doing one of those. I tasted a cuvee de pena rose in a bottle, it wasn't awful for the $2 or 3.99 it cost wholesale.

Tags: Box, chardonnay, pinot grigio, red, review, shiraz, Video, white, wine, wines

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  • Paulo

    QOTD – Best steak: any decent, fresh piece of meat at least 1 and 1/2 inch tall medium rare to rare.
    Worst steak: any frozen piece of meat less than 1 inch tall well done paired with a box wine.

  • Gary,
    Since you said that eMails don’t count as a “Comment”, here’s some more feedback on your great show:

    Having grown up in Nebraska, I know and can make a mean steak (preferably dry-aged bone-in ribeye rubbed with olive oil, gray salt, and cracked black pepper cooked over a hot charcoal grill). A friend gets a Wagyu-Black Angus crossbreed quarter of beef from an Idaho rancher each year, and those steaks are pretty impressive too. But for best steak ever, I would give the edge to Gaucho’s in Adelaide, Australia, just ahead of La Brigada (San Telmo, Buenos Aires). I’m a steak purist, so really don’t believe in any kind of sauce or toppings to a great steak, but have to admit Gaucho’s chimi churri is delicious.

    Worst steak? Well, just yesterday I saw flames about four feet high enveloping my Vermont Castings grill (sadly, I had long ago switched to gas for the convenience factor) and the two USDA Prime ribeyes it held. No, I was not the one cooking, and actually those turned out surprisingly decent apart from a nice thick layer of char. Actually, the worst was as a kid, we had to go a couple of times to a certain steak chain, a favorite of some beloved relatives. I’d rather not name (or remember) the place, but it’s gotten a fair number of votes here already….

  • best stake :: Off the grill in the Colorado Mountains

    worst stake :: Salisbury at lunch in the public school system – Awful!!

  • BrianS

    Best steak?

    Has to be the T-bone I had at The Weber Grill just off the Miracle Mile in Chicago. I know, sounds gimmicky, but damn. Inch and 1/2 thick beef with a kickass rub cooked over charcoal in some of the BIGGEST Weber kettle grills in existence. The fillet was buttery and it was perfectly cooked (pink but not moo-ing. Even the grill crust (you know the black stuff you used to have to scrape off with a knife after your dad overcooked your burgers as a kid?) tasted amazing.

    Worst steak has to be the crappy, greasy-ass rib eye I had a Longhorn “steak” house here in KC during a club meeting. Take that rubber cement that they use to glue those little subscription cards into magazines, ball it up, grill it, then dip it in Astroglide and serve it with A1. That’s how bad this steak was. The bad thing? It was only about $10 less than the best steak up above. I wanted to headbutt the waitress!

  • Best – St. Louis Strip, Bambino’s Restaurant in Imperial, MO
    Worst – (insert name of dish) Ruby Tuesday, PERIOD!

  • Paulo

    QOTD – Best steak: any decent, fresh piece of meat at least 1 and 1/2 inch tall medium rare to rare.
    Worst steak: any frozen piece of meat less than 1 inch tall well done paired with a box wine.

  • Jesse (PatsFan) G.

    Glad you did this episode GeeVee, but seriously… boxed wine!? Trying to pull in some new ratings with the poor drunk college kids? Just ordered my X-Mas 4 pack!

    QOTD: Best Steak has got to be Ruth Chris Filet Mignon… just kickin!

    Worst Steak ever is the crap that they server at just about every Applebees or Chilli’s across america. I may be stretching when I say it’s even a steak.

    Cheers!

  • I am a seafood person so when ever I order out it is always a filet mignon but I would like to try a dry aged porterhouse. I was out Thursday and ordered an excellent filet since I brought a bottle of 2002 Merryvale Profile. Cork charges are great when you know you’re going to get a great meal, it is the perfect time to open that $100 bottle that has been sitting in your cellar.

  • Jesse (PatsFan) G.

    Glad you did this episode GeeVee, but seriously… boxed wine!? Trying to pull in some new ratings with the poor drunk college kids? Just ordered my X-Mas 4 pack!

    QOTD: Best Steak has got to be Ruth Chris Filet Mignon… just kickin!

    Worst Steak ever is the crap that they server at just about every Applebees or Chilli’s across america. I may be stretching when I say it’s even a steak.

    Cheers!

  • I am a seafood person so when ever I order out it is always a filet mignon but I would like to try a dry aged porterhouse. I was out Thursday and ordered an excellent filet since I brought a bottle of 2002 Merryvale Profile. Cork charges are great when you know you’re going to get a great meal, it is the perfect time to open that $100 bottle that has been sitting in your cellar.

  • Robin C

    QOTD: Best steak: quite a few years ago while passing through Iowa. It took hours to get that steak but it was beautiful and buttery and I could cut it with a fork.
    I don’t eat steaks that often, and can’t remember a truly awful steak.
    I can see that box wines might evolve into something OK – they have to work on the shape though. They look awfully clunky.

  • Jason Henderson

    QOTD: My best steak was a pepperloin from a restaurant called Tony’s in Metro East St. Louis. My worst steak is pretty much anything I have been served from Ponderosa.

  • Robin C

    QOTD: Best steak: quite a few years ago while passing through Iowa. It took hours to get that steak but it was beautiful and buttery and I could cut it with a fork.
    I don’t eat steaks that often, and can’t remember a truly awful steak.
    I can see that box wines might evolve into something OK – they have to work on the shape though. They look awfully clunky.

  • Jason Henderson

    QOTD: My best steak was a pepperloin from a restaurant called Tony’s in Metro East St. Louis. My worst steak is pretty much anything I have been served from Ponderosa.

  • Nancy A

    Best steak
    We used to buy a side of beef from our slow-food friends at Straus Ranch about once a year. Every cut was tender and tasty.

    Worst steak
    Oddly, this was at the cafe at the cattle auction in Amarillo Texas. The meat was beyond chewy.

  • AWT

    Best: Seared Ostrich “filet” or Wisconsin “Kobe” Strip Steak

    Worst: Tyler Florence’s Applebees Steak — It Couldn’t have tasted more like rubber

  • Nancy A

    Best steak
    We used to buy a side of beef from our slow-food friends at Straus Ranch about once a year. Every cut was tender and tasty.

    Worst steak
    Oddly, this was at the cafe at the cattle auction in Amarillo Texas. The meat was beyond chewy.

  • AWT

    Best: Seared Ostrich “filet” or Wisconsin “Kobe” Strip Steak

    Worst: Tyler Florence’s Applebees Steak — It Couldn’t have tasted more like rubber

  • Flavio

    QOTD: That’s like asking which one of my kids I like the best… the runner-up is a toss up between

    (i) the beautiful and buttery Porterhouse for two at Peter Luger in Brooklyn;
    (ii) the very well dressed and rather inexpensive entrecote at the Relais L’Entrecote in Paris;
    (iii) the incredibly tender real Kobe steak (with the 3 dipping sauces) at Nobu; and
    (iv) a nice salty Brazilian top sirloin cap churrasco at Oasis (rodizio) in Rio de Janeiro.

    Th best piece of meat in the world, though, is the cote de boeuf (bone-in center-cut ribeye) for two at Balthazar in NY – it was a somewhat recent surprise after frequenting the restaurant for almost 10 years, and I’m 100% hooked. There’s nothing better in France, NY or anywhere else in the world.

    The worst one? Probably anything served at these horrible cookie-cutter casual dining places in strips all over the US (TGI’s, Bennigan’s, Applebee’s, etc). Thankfully, I try my best to stay away from those.

  • Flavio

    QOTD: That’s like asking which one of my kids I like the best… the runner-up is a toss up between

    (i) the beautiful and buttery Porterhouse for two at Peter Luger in Brooklyn;
    (ii) the very well dressed and rather inexpensive entrecote at the Relais L’Entrecote in Paris;
    (iii) the incredibly tender real Kobe steak (with the 3 dipping sauces) at Nobu; and
    (iv) a nice salty Brazilian top sirloin cap churrasco at Oasis (rodizio) in Rio de Janeiro.

    Th best piece of meat in the world, though, is the cote de boeuf (bone-in center-cut ribeye) for two at Balthazar in NY – it was a somewhat recent surprise after frequenting the restaurant for almost 10 years, and I’m 100% hooked. There’s nothing better in France, NY or anywhere else in the world.

    The worst one? Probably anything served at these horrible cookie-cutter casual dining places in strips all over the US (TGI’s, Bennigan’s, Applebee’s, etc). Thankfully, I try my best to stay away from those.

  • Yargh!

    Best steak: NY Strip at Prime 112 SoFi South Beach.

    Worst steak: Huddlehouse at 3 am somewhere in Georgia.

  • Yargh!

    Best steak: NY Strip at Prime 112 SoFi South Beach.

    Worst steak: Huddlehouse at 3 am somewhere in Georgia.

  • DanEpp

    Best Steak_ This was actually a steak I prepared, the cut was a fillet mignon, which obvious is a jump ahead, but it was simply pan seared with ground peppercorns around the side. By far the juiciest and most delicious steak I have ever had.
    Worst Steak_ Would have to be one from a restaurant, name escapes me, obviously this event has not sent me back, but the cut was a Kansas City Strip and what should be a good slice of meat was full of gristle and really uneatable.

  • DanEpp

    Best Steak_ This was actually a steak I prepared, the cut was a fillet mignon, which obvious is a jump ahead, but it was simply pan seared with ground peppercorns around the side. By far the juiciest and most delicious steak I have ever had.
    Worst Steak_ Would have to be one from a restaurant, name escapes me, obviously this event has not sent me back, but the cut was a Kansas City Strip and what should be a good slice of meat was full of gristle and really uneatable.

  • Todd Kasper

    QOTD: Best steak ever, bone-in ribeye at Mortons in San Jose. Worse steak by far was a t-bone at Denny’s on Christmas day. Don’t ask.

  • Todd Kasper

    QOTD: Best steak ever, bone-in ribeye at Mortons in San Jose. Worse steak by far was a t-bone at Denny’s on Christmas day. Don’t ask.

  • The Original Marc

    QOTD: Best was a marbled something-or-other at Capital Grill at the Country Club Plaza in Kansas City. Worst was at Outback Steakhouse on my 21st birthday. I ordered rare and they gave me well done. I sent it back, and they returned with something that was still mooing. And they didn’t even ID me when I ordered a drink! That’s the whole thrill of turning 21!

  • The Original Marc

    QOTD: Best was a marbled something-or-other at Capital Grill at the Country Club Plaza in Kansas City. Worst was at Outback Steakhouse on my 21st birthday. I ordered rare and they gave me well done. I sent it back, and they returned with something that was still mooing. And they didn’t even ID me when I ordered a drink! That’s the whole thrill of turning 21!

  • Bobby T

    Best steak I ever had was at this little French restaurant in Paris(forgot the name).
    It was bloody and delicious!

    Worst steak was at a Denny’s off the 5 freeway in the middle of California.

  • Yoplait

    Best steak- Fogo de Chao in Atlanta, the bacon-wrapped filet mignon. There goes the bacon again, making everything taste great, eh?

    Worst steak- Had a roomate that grilled in an oven pan on our apartment balcony, didn’t turn out well.

  • Bobby T

    Best steak I ever had was at this little French restaurant in Paris(forgot the name).
    It was bloody and delicious!

    Worst steak was at a Denny’s off the 5 freeway in the middle of California.

  • Yoplait

    Best steak- Fogo de Chao in Atlanta, the bacon-wrapped filet mignon. There goes the bacon again, making everything taste great, eh?

    Worst steak- Had a roomate that grilled in an oven pan on our apartment balcony, didn’t turn out well.

  • Sim

    I grew up on a ranch so my best steak was outside the kitchen window.

    My worst steak was the mystery meat they served in the dining hall in college.

  • Sim

    I grew up on a ranch so my best steak was outside the kitchen window.

    My worst steak was the mystery meat they served in the dining hall in college.

  • Withnail

    Best Steak ever: Surrey Keg

    Worst Steak ever: Swanson’s Hungry Man TV dinner

  • Withnail

    Best Steak ever: Surrey Keg

    Worst Steak ever: Swanson’s Hungry Man TV dinner

  • kaidog

    My best steak (Waikiki) Hawaii can be found at DK Steakhouse. Secondly, they’ve got good wine to go with their AGED BEEF! Brock da Mouth, they know their stuff. Worst, a thin N.Y. strip that I had last week at a local lunch wagon (name withheld to protect the guilty). Worst part was that I finished the plate lunch! I was hungry:(

  • kaidog

    My best steak (Waikiki) Hawaii can be found at DK Steakhouse. Secondly, they’ve got good wine to go with their AGED BEEF! Brock da Mouth, they know their stuff. Worst, a thin N.Y. strip that I had last week at a local lunch wagon (name withheld to protect the guilty). Worst part was that I finished the plate lunch! I was hungry:(

  • Alex

    best steak= chops by the lake. in southeastern WI
    Worst= father on the grill lol.

  • Alex

    best steak= chops by the lake. in southeastern WI
    Worst= father on the grill lol.

  • The Original Marc

    Wow, reading some of these responses disheartens me. I thought this was a snob-free zone. I guess not. I spent an entire summer eating Applebee’s sirloin steaks for most of my dinners (courtesy of HyVee for anyone familiar with the midwest) and I think they are extremely delicious. But if you need to spend $35 on a steak to be satisfied, fine, I guess that’s your problem.

  • The Original Marc

    Wow, reading some of these responses disheartens me. I thought this was a snob-free zone. I guess not. I spent an entire summer eating Applebee’s sirloin steaks for most of my dinners (courtesy of HyVee for anyone familiar with the midwest) and I think they are extremely delicious. But if you need to spend $35 on a steak to be satisfied, fine, I guess that’s your problem.

  • flippy

    Best: Sirloin at 529 Wellington here in Winnipeg.
    Worst: The first time I ever tried to cook steak on the barbecue at home – which was early this past summer.

  • flippy

    Best: Sirloin at 529 Wellington here in Winnipeg.
    Worst: The first time I ever tried to cook steak on the barbecue at home – which was early this past summer.

  • Bob K

    Best Steak: Porterhouse at Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse cooked medium rare melted like butter in your mouth.
    Worst Steak: Denny’s in Ohio tasted like leather.

  • Bob K

    Best Steak: Porterhouse at Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse cooked medium rare melted like butter in your mouth.
    Worst Steak: Denny’s in Ohio tasted like leather.

  • C-Fiddy

    Much Love, Thunder Man!
    QOTD: Worst, I grilled it myself on a cheap hibachi in college. CKC Livin’ Large!
    Best: Bobo’s in San Francisco, 6 weeks dry-aged bone-in filet.
    It’s now a Thanksgiving tradition with my family!

  • C-Fiddy

    Much Love, Thunder Man!
    QOTD: Worst, I grilled it myself on a cheap hibachi in college. CKC Livin’ Large!
    Best: Bobo’s in San Francisco, 6 weeks dry-aged bone-in filet.
    It’s now a Thanksgiving tradition with my family!

  • graz

    The best steak was a recent meal in Las Vegas at Craftsteak. The Ribeye was cooked to medium-rare perfection with a jerusalem artichoke side.
    The worst was a Thai restaurant treatment that was billed as lemom but tasted rancid. Even the $850.00 Bordeaux would not have helped.

  • graz

    The best steak was a recent meal in Las Vegas at Craftsteak. The Ribeye was cooked to medium-rare perfection with a jerusalem artichoke side.
    The worst was a Thai restaurant treatment that was billed as lemom but tasted rancid. Even the $850.00 Bordeaux would not have helped.

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