EP 368 New York City Wine Tour

The Thunder Show goes on the road again on a wine tour of New York City. Gary’s first stop is Shelly’s and tastes some wine with Andre Mack.

Wines tasted in this episode:

Once Pinot Noir
2004 Sandro Fay Rosso di Valtellina

2002 La Spinetta Barbaresco

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Qotd: Antrim's 1844, over 2,300 selections and I'm surprised at how low their mark ups are for a restaurant

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  • Ferrigno

    alright this looks good!

  • diggin the tour. should be a fun week.

    qotd: in NYC, i would say blue ribbon.
    ps if you want to watch some good internet video that really brings thunder, or a whole lotta love, check out led zep from last night in london…….. DUDE!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsHcUwtw5H0
    or as a point of reference
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xajqf-PhO8s&feature=related

  • mbannon

    Just rewound yesterday’s show – okay, so the fancy-ass wine contest is FRIDAY – got it.

  • mbannon

    Just rewound yesterday’s show – okay, so the fancy-ass wine contest is FRIDAY – got it.

  • Joe Po

    Wow! What a way to keep us informed! but methinks those wines by the glass are a bit much!!

  • Joe Po

    Wow! What a way to keep us informed! but methinks those wines by the glass are a bit much!!

  • CaseTheLurker

    QOTD: I’m exempt from the QOTD, I’m in the CKC and don’t drink wine in restaurants, unless they start selling by the glass in fast food joints.

  • CaseTheLurker

    QOTD: I’m exempt from the QOTD, I’m in the CKC and don’t drink wine in restaurants, unless they start selling by the glass in fast food joints.

  • Dave Canada

    QOTD – Gotta be Veses…..great atmopshere!

  • Dave Canada

    QOTD – Gotta be Veses…..great atmopshere!

  • sonnybobiche

    Landmarc in Time Warner Center on 59th. They have a HUGE selection of half bottles priced not too high over market.

  • sonnybobiche

    Landmarc in Time Warner Center on 59th. They have a HUGE selection of half bottles priced not too high over market.

  • PK

    awkward hand shake

  • PK

    awkward hand shake

  • organicguy

    Excellent!!!! Nice bar, just wondering if

    Excellent show!!! Nice bar……but is $15 the norm for wines by the glass in NYC? Prices are less here with a pretty good selection available at many establishments. Either way it’s nice to see you out and about……….

  • organicguy

    Excellent!!!! Nice bar, just wondering if

    Excellent show!!! Nice bar……but is $15 the norm for wines by the glass in NYC? Prices are less here with a pretty good selection available at many establishments. Either way it’s nice to see you out and about……….

  • Dave H

    Love the theme for the week. Glass lists in NYC are a great source of interesting, food-friendly, off-the-beaten-track bargains. (Well, they’d be bargains if you could find them at retail.) A few months back there was a discussion in the forums about how many grape varieties you’d tried, and I was SHOCKED at the number of posters with otherwise serious wine experience who had barely tried anything that doesn’t come from California or Bordeaux or Australia. Meanwhile, with some memory jogging from the linked checklist, I counted up above 120 varietals before I quit. Drinking by the glass in NY restaurants was the source of nearly all of them.

    QOTD: Hearth/Insieme. If you could set something up with Paul Grieco either this week (if possible), or maybe when Terroir opens in a month or two, that would make for a KILLER episode.

    Or since that’s a touch obvious for any local wine geek, let me also give a shout out to Franny’s in Prospect Heights, where the beverage program is as deceptively serious as the food. Have had some awesome wine by the glass there.

  • Dave H

    Love the theme for the week. Glass lists in NYC are a great source of interesting, food-friendly, off-the-beaten-track bargains. (Well, they’d be bargains if you could find them at retail.) A few months back there was a discussion in the forums about how many grape varieties you’d tried, and I was SHOCKED at the number of posters with otherwise serious wine experience who had barely tried anything that doesn’t come from California or Bordeaux or Australia. Meanwhile, with some memory jogging from the linked checklist, I counted up above 120 varietals before I quit. Drinking by the glass in NY restaurants was the source of nearly all of them.

    QOTD: Hearth/Insieme. If you could set something up with Paul Grieco either this week (if possible), or maybe when Terroir opens in a month or two, that would make for a KILLER episode.

    Or since that’s a touch obvious for any local wine geek, let me also give a shout out to Franny’s in Prospect Heights, where the beverage program is as deceptively serious as the food. Have had some awesome wine by the glass there.

  • QOTD: There are only three I’ll drink wine at – Olive Garden (national chain), Portobello (grill in Elk City, OK) and the local Italian restaurant, Adamo’s. Of those three, I’ve drank wine more often at the Portobello.

  • Matti

    nice episode. more of this please!!

  • QOTD: There are only three I’ll drink wine at – Olive Garden (national chain), Portobello (grill in Elk City, OK) and the local Italian restaurant, Adamo’s. Of those three, I’ve drank wine more often at the Portobello.

  • Matti

    nice episode. more of this please!!

  • Great show love the idea. QOTD: My House

  • Great show love the idea. QOTD: My House

  • Malphas

    QotD: Kodama Sushi, NYC

    I particularly love their choice of plum wine and sake.

  • Malphas

    QotD: Kodama Sushi, NYC

    I particularly love their choice of plum wine and sake.

  • Smith MBA

    Hard to say what my favorite restaurant to drink wine because I usually drink beer when I am out to drink.

    I would say Proof in DC is up there for wine, they have the enomatic pouring system which is kind of cool to see.

  • Smith MBA

    Hard to say what my favorite restaurant to drink wine because I usually drink beer when I am out to drink.

    I would say Proof in DC is up there for wine, they have the enomatic pouring system which is kind of cool to see.

  • jimkay

    Great show! Really appreciate the extra work you guys put into for these “road” shows.

  • jimkay

    Great show! Really appreciate the extra work you guys put into for these “road” shows.

  • Robin C

    QOTD: Incredible timing for this question. I just saved an article about a NY Italian restaurant that serves 50 wines by the glass: Barcibo Enoteca. As it’s very near Lincoln Center, my friend and I are going to try it for our next Metropolitan Opera event in April.
    In Albuquerque, one of our favorite restaurants, Vernon’s, has a liquor store attached and lets you bring in a purchased bottle for a $15.00 charge. This is the best deal we’ve found. We can finally get a decent wine with dinner without breaking the bank or relying on the putrid yet overpriced wine by the glass offerings at many places.

  • Robin C

    QOTD: Incredible timing for this question. I just saved an article about a NY Italian restaurant that serves 50 wines by the glass: Barcibo Enoteca. As it’s very near Lincoln Center, my friend and I are going to try it for our next Metropolitan Opera event in April.
    In Albuquerque, one of our favorite restaurants, Vernon’s, has a liquor store attached and lets you bring in a purchased bottle for a $15.00 charge. This is the best deal we’ve found. We can finally get a decent wine with dinner without breaking the bank or relying on the putrid yet overpriced wine by the glass offerings at many places.

  • QOTD: I like making friends with the flight attendants on long-haul flights. They usually bring the good stuff from first class back to my lowly economy seat. Otherwise, I rarely buy wine by the glass at most restaurants because it’s been open for a week and isn’t worth the price.

  • Kirk

    QOTD: I would have to say my favorite restaurant would have to be 58 degrees in Sacramento. I went there in the summer of 2002 and had a wonderful time with their selections by the taste, glass, and bottle. I look forward to another night there in the near future….

  • QOTD: I like making friends with the flight attendants on long-haul flights. They usually bring the good stuff from first class back to my lowly economy seat. Otherwise, I rarely buy wine by the glass at most restaurants because it’s been open for a week and isn’t worth the price.

  • Kirk

    QOTD: I would have to say my favorite restaurant would have to be 58 degrees in Sacramento. I went there in the summer of 2002 and had a wonderful time with their selections by the taste, glass, and bottle. I look forward to another night there in the near future….

  • spyder47

    Thanks for the road show. I like places that have a decent selection of wines by the glass, but generally these are the higher price-point restaurants. Otherwise it’s the $5 “house red”.

    Great little comedy bit at the end too … I’m ROFL! Good job Mark E.

  • Marshall

    QOTD: Are you kidding me! I live in Wisconsin, I’m not as spoiled as you New Yorkers are. The only restaurants we have are places like “Applebees”, “TGI Fridays”, and other lame places with bad food and lousy selections.

  • spyder47

    Thanks for the road show. I like places that have a decent selection of wines by the glass, but generally these are the higher price-point restaurants. Otherwise it’s the $5 “house red”.

    Great little comedy bit at the end too … I’m ROFL! Good job Mark E.

  • Marshall

    QOTD: Are you kidding me! I live in Wisconsin, I’m not as spoiled as you New Yorkers are. The only restaurants we have are places like “Applebees”, “TGI Fridays”, and other lame places with bad food and lousy selections.

  • Enjoyed the episode… you’re really on a nice run of excellent episodes! Thank you!

    QOTD: Piazza Italia in Portland has some awesome Italian wines by the glass.

    David

  • Enjoyed the episode… you’re really on a nice run of excellent episodes! Thank you!

    QOTD: Piazza Italia in Portland has some awesome Italian wines by the glass.

    David

  • caleb

    without a doubt berns in tampa!

  • caleb

    without a doubt berns in tampa!

  • Jim C

    Il Chianti Ristorante, Saratoga Springs. Come in August , watch some famulous horse racing but leave after the 8th race so you can get a table at this fabulous restaurant, whose chef and also its owner were born and raised in Italy.

  • Jim C

    Il Chianti Ristorante, Saratoga Springs. Come in August , watch some famulous horse racing but leave after the 8th race so you can get a table at this fabulous restaurant, whose chef and also its owner were born and raised in Italy.

  • Mike T

    I just fell off my chair laughing at that last clip!!!

    My favorite wine bar would be L’Ombretta. A nice Italian wine bar on the west coast.

  • Mike T

    I just fell off my chair laughing at that last clip!!!

    My favorite wine bar would be L’Ombretta. A nice Italian wine bar on the west coast.

  • Matthew L

    Nice show Gary.

    You left Andre hanging with the handshake there. You need to tighten up the third component of the handshake. Ask some guys around the store…they’ll tell you. (And probably chuckle that I pointed this out.) You at least came correct with the knuckle mash at the end.

    I always find wine pricing very interesting. $15 a glass when the bottle costs $25–likely $15 wholesale. Figuring that you get 4 glasses per bottle, we’re talking $60 for a $25 bottle. Yet another reason I love Wine Library, and why I am often reluctant to order wine when dining out. The more I buy, the hard it its to accept the 300-400% markup.

    Nevertheless, your visit to Shellys was a flashback for me. I went there a few times when I worked/lived in New York.

    QOTD: In DC, maybe CityZen or the Blue Duck Tavern. I had a great wine and food experience at Farallon in San Francisco.

  • Matthew L

    Nice show Gary.

    You left Andre hanging with the handshake there. You need to tighten up the third component of the handshake. Ask some guys around the store…they’ll tell you. (And probably chuckle that I pointed this out.) You at least came correct with the knuckle mash at the end.

    I always find wine pricing very interesting. $15 a glass when the bottle costs $25–likely $15 wholesale. Figuring that you get 4 glasses per bottle, we’re talking $60 for a $25 bottle. Yet another reason I love Wine Library, and why I am often reluctant to order wine when dining out. The more I buy, the hard it its to accept the 300-400% markup.

    Nevertheless, your visit to Shellys was a flashback for me. I went there a few times when I worked/lived in New York.

    QOTD: In DC, maybe CityZen or the Blue Duck Tavern. I had a great wine and food experience at Farallon in San Francisco.

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