EP 386 Wild White Wines

Gary Vaynerchuk always says that white wines are dissed and deserve so much more credit for what they bring to the table! Gary today attacks some of the cooler whites in the shop!

Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Venge Family Bianco SpettroNapa Other White Wine
2006 Palmina Tocai FriulanoOther California White Wine
2006 St. Cosme Cotes Du Rhone BlancCotes du Rhone Blanc

Links mentioned in todays episode.

Cheese mentioned in todays episode.

  • Tomme Au Marc Jura Brandy

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John__J

qotd: U.S. wine laws, I can't figure out what the hell is wrong with the legislator's when it comes to shipping, especially in the 13 states where it's completely prohibited. Although one problem I saw in MD when I testified this past year before the sub-committee was that some representatives literally slept during the hearing right in front of people, while others would use their cell phone or get up and just walk out of the room missing entire testimonies!

Great episode Gary!
I'm always amused when I tell someone or hear someone find out there's some white wines out there that will age 100+ years, and they show disbelief.
I've had Cotes Du Rhone reds, white, and rose.
I've had Venge's Scouts Honor before, I had to bring it in to taste when I saw it was a blend of petite sirah, charbono, and zin. A good wine but a little overpriced I thought. I'd love to see a petite sirah, charbono, petite verdot blend.

Tags: Blanc, california, cheese, Cotes Du Rhone, food-friendly, napa, review, Video, white, wine, wines

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  • Fabulous Fruit Focus Factor….with Cheese

    I’d say the most confusing thing for me in the wine world is the sheer scope of each varietal. I am consistently surprised by the diversity of flavor profiles within each grape I try.

  • Fabulous Fruit Focus Factor….with Cheese

    I’d say the most confusing thing for me in the wine world is the sheer scope of each varietal. I am consistently surprised by the diversity of flavor profiles within each grape I try.

  • Achilleas in Cyprus

    QOTD: Still confuses me the amount of varieties of grape there are out there.

    Also confuses me how I am going to manage to drink them all in one lifetime 🙂

  • Achilleas in Cyprus

    QOTD: Still confuses me the amount of varieties of grape there are out there.

    Also confuses me how I am going to manage to drink them all in one lifetime 🙂

  • Ryan D

    QotD: Most confusing thing for me is the complete variety that is afforded us in wine when they are all basically coming from the same thing… grapes. It’s also the most wonderful thing.

    Marking March 22nd on my calendar… hopefully my wife will let me come. 😛

  • Ryan D

    QotD: Most confusing thing for me is the complete variety that is afforded us in wine when they are all basically coming from the same thing… grapes. It’s also the most wonderful thing.

    Marking March 22nd on my calendar… hopefully my wife will let me come. 😛

  • kool booy

    I LOVE white wine episodes, im a huge fan of white’s. thank you so much !

  • kool booy

    I LOVE white wine episodes, im a huge fan of white’s. thank you so much !

  • salvatore

    Betty White !!!!!!!! She sells pet medicine doesn’t she ??

    What’s confuseing about wine? Two bottle from the same producer,kind, and vintage can taste completely different.

    Patriots Rule…. I won’t let you forget it for a second for the rest of 2008!

    3/22/08……. not good for travelers ! Need to be at the Easter Egg hunt with the grandkids early on 3/23/08.

  • salvatore

    Betty White !!!!!!!! She sells pet medicine doesn’t she ??

    What’s confuseing about wine? Two bottle from the same producer,kind, and vintage can taste completely different.

    Patriots Rule…. I won’t let you forget it for a second for the rest of 2008!

    3/22/08……. not good for travelers ! Need to be at the Easter Egg hunt with the grandkids early on 3/23/08.

  • Tony

    Most confusing – figuring out French wines in general

  • Tony

    Most confusing – figuring out French wines in general

  • fredhead

    QOTD: I can’t figure out what the heck I’m smelling. If wine either smelled like fruit or my dog, I could tell the difference. Beyond that, it starts getting complicated.

  • fredhead

    QOTD: I can’t figure out what the heck I’m smelling. If wine either smelled like fruit or my dog, I could tell the difference. Beyond that, it starts getting complicated.

  • Anonymous

    Gary I was waiting to see if you were going to spit the cheese out into the Jets bucket!!

    Since Im in NY, when I asked for suggestions on wine vacations, I really didnt think you would say Springfield, New Jersey! But, hey..why not!
    Except…..3/22?!?!?! Noooo.. I cant make it! Can you reschedule..Im sure everyone will understand. Get Lizzie on the horn, we need to find a different Saturday. 🙂

    QOTD: I still have difficulty identifying tastes. Im training my palette. I know what I like and what I dont like, but I cant always explain why.

  • Gary I was waiting to see if you were going to spit the cheese out into the Jets bucket!!

    Since Im in NY, when I asked for suggestions on wine vacations, I really didnt think you would say Springfield, New Jersey! But, hey..why not!
    Except…..3/22?!?!?! Noooo.. I cant make it! Can you reschedule..Im sure everyone will understand. Get Lizzie on the horn, we need to find a different Saturday. 🙂

    QOTD: I still have difficulty identifying tastes. Im training my palette. I know what I like and what I dont like, but I cant always explain why.

  • Susan

    Gary-No, I haven’t tried Cote D’Rhone Blanc yet…………..will try soon!!!!!!!!!!

  • Susan

    Gary-No, I haven’t tried Cote D’Rhone Blanc yet…………..will try soon!!!!!!!!!!

  • JerseyGirl turned CNY vayniac

    QOTD: It’s confusing to me that so many people think that if you like wine and enjoy learning about it, it makes you a “wine snob”. Why can’t wine just be fun? Why do people assume that wine lovers are snobby and picky just because we know a bit about a very complex and constantly evolving subject?

    When I offer to help friends or family pick out wine, I’m not trying to prevent them from making a bad choice (cause with the selection available, I’m just as likely to do the same) – I’m just trying to help them make an more educated decision. I’m trying to help them spend their money on something I think they’ll enjoy, rather than a shot in the dark. If I read tons of novels and recommended a book to someone they’d never call me a “book snob.” If I was an avid hiker and recommended a trail or campsite, no one would think I’m a “hiking snob”. But with wine it’s different… why?

    Wine is fun! Why do people think it’s not? It’s confusing why wine has such an odd connotation in our culture.

    That’s my ROTD (Rant of the Day).

  • JerseyGirl turned CNY vayniac

    QOTD: It’s confusing to me that so many people think that if you like wine and enjoy learning about it, it makes you a “wine snob”. Why can’t wine just be fun? Why do people assume that wine lovers are snobby and picky just because we know a bit about a very complex and constantly evolving subject?

    When I offer to help friends or family pick out wine, I’m not trying to prevent them from making a bad choice (cause with the selection available, I’m just as likely to do the same) – I’m just trying to help them make an more educated decision. I’m trying to help them spend their money on something I think they’ll enjoy, rather than a shot in the dark. If I read tons of novels and recommended a book to someone they’d never call me a “book snob.” If I was an avid hiker and recommended a trail or campsite, no one would think I’m a “hiking snob”. But with wine it’s different… why?

    Wine is fun! Why do people think it’s not? It’s confusing why wine has such an odd connotation in our culture.

    That’s my ROTD (Rant of the Day).

  • MB Dallas

    QOTD: Palate development; When tasting wine, I’m not able to pick up 2nd tier, 3rd tier flavors. Distinguishing between flavors on the mid-palate and the rest of the flavors I taste. How to discern “good tannin structure”. Though I did, for the first time, really smell “sweaty sock” on a varietal I’d never tried before (Las Rocas de San Alejandro Garnacha).

  • MB Dallas

    QOTD: Palate development; When tasting wine, I’m not able to pick up 2nd tier, 3rd tier flavors. Distinguishing between flavors on the mid-palate and the rest of the flavors I taste. How to discern “good tannin structure”. Though I did, for the first time, really smell “sweaty sock” on a varietal I’d never tried before (Las Rocas de San Alejandro Garnacha).

  • Todd Smith

    Excellent idea from coolhandluke; “Mott, Link it up!” bumper stickers.

    QOTD – The thing that confuses me the most is how we can get great wines all the way from say, Australia or even Sapin, shipped over here (USA)and still be able to retail them for $8-$12 dollars per bottle. We can’t get decent wines from Cali at that price. The cost in the land, growing the grapes, making the wine, cellaring the wine, bottling, labeling and shipping has to be more than what we are paying for some of these “high value” wines. Are there subsidies at work here? Are importers and distributors selling wines below cost just to have US market presence?

  • Todd Smith

    Excellent idea from coolhandluke; “Mott, Link it up!” bumper stickers.

    QOTD – The thing that confuses me the most is how we can get great wines all the way from say, Australia or even Sapin, shipped over here (USA)and still be able to retail them for $8-$12 dollars per bottle. We can’t get decent wines from Cali at that price. The cost in the land, growing the grapes, making the wine, cellaring the wine, bottling, labeling and shipping has to be more than what we are paying for some of these “high value” wines. Are there subsidies at work here? Are importers and distributors selling wines below cost just to have US market presence?

  • Andy

    Interesting wine G , thanks for the Cote du Rhone white intro . We always forget about Rhone style of wines.

    QOTD— How about explaining all those crazy European wine laws dude. That why most people are scared of foreign wine.

  • Andy

    Interesting wine G , thanks for the Cote du Rhone white intro . We always forget about Rhone style of wines.

    QOTD— How about explaining all those crazy European wine laws dude. That why most people are scared of foreign wine.

  • Cris Cross!!! That was so CHEESY! I have to admit though, I had the dentists gas as a kid and that smell makes me sick to this day. Love white wines.

  • Cris Cross!!! That was so CHEESY! I have to admit though, I had the dentists gas as a kid and that smell makes me sick to this day. Love white wines.

  • GV,

    How about a “whiffy-whiff” smell test is what you do to your gym clothes after a week in your locker.

  • GV,

    How about a “whiffy-whiff” smell test is what you do to your gym clothes after a week in your locker.

  • QOTD:

    I’m still trying to pair wine with food.

    It seems I eat everything on the table, and drink anything they put in front of me….. 🙁

    How do you pair everything with anything….??

    Can you help?

  • QOTD:

    I’m still trying to pair wine with food.

    It seems I eat everything on the table, and drink anything they put in front of me….. 🙁

    How do you pair everything with anything….??

    Can you help?

  • Scott Paparella

    Nice Thunder today GV! I like the Flavor Focus Factor – F3 concept too.
    Should dedicated fans go and get root canals just to add laughing gas to their “PAL” library? I say Yes.

  • Scott Paparella

    Nice Thunder today GV! I like the Flavor Focus Factor – F3 concept too.
    Should dedicated fans go and get root canals just to add laughing gas to their “PAL” library? I say Yes.

  • mateo

    QOTD: I think I’m going to have to say… being able to really separate the different flavors in wine. Case in point — I was drinking this Mas Donis the other day, and couldn’t pin-point a smell. Read a review of it and BAM! they mention pencil-shavings, and it was spot on. Crazy!

    and GV, I hear you on the White Wine thing… I know a few people who have given away their white wine glasses because they think it’s so inferior to red!!!

  • mateo

    QOTD: I think I’m going to have to say… being able to really separate the different flavors in wine. Case in point — I was drinking this Mas Donis the other day, and couldn’t pin-point a smell. Read a review of it and BAM! they mention pencil-shavings, and it was spot on. Crazy!

    and GV, I hear you on the White Wine thing… I know a few people who have given away their white wine glasses because they think it’s so inferior to red!!!

  • wayno da wino

    Yo Gee !!
    Faaantaaastic Episode !!! Loooove dhose ABC Whites !!……..

    QOTD: What’s confusin’ about Wine ?? Why do people pay $2800 to
    $3500 for a single bottle of wine (ie 2005 Petrus) when you can
    get just as good a bottle (of Pomerol or St. Emilion) for a
    fraction of da price ($50 to $100) ????????

  • wayno da wino

    Yo Gee !!
    Faaantaaastic Episode !!! Loooove dhose ABC Whites !!……..

    QOTD: What’s confusin’ about Wine ?? Why do people pay $2800 to
    $3500 for a single bottle of wine (ie 2005 Petrus) when you can
    get just as good a bottle (of Pomerol or St. Emilion) for a
    fraction of da price ($50 to $100) ????????

  • NADINE

    Hey Gary,

    You probably already know I love white wine as I love to combine it with fish, sushi or just to have one good glass of chilled white vino and sometimes cheese. To answer your ? of the day, the thing with wine is that the choice is overwhelming, the diversity is enormous and it’s always changing, some new wine always on the come out as wine is on the popular rise and market well has to keep up with competition and differentiating themselves from very close narrow competitors, so to me it’s that sometimes the vaste choice makes me spin around a bit and to be able to keep up with new is not so evident, have a great day Gary 🙂

  • NADINE

    Hey Gary,

    You probably already know I love white wine as I love to combine it with fish, sushi or just to have one good glass of chilled white vino and sometimes cheese. To answer your ? of the day, the thing with wine is that the choice is overwhelming, the diversity is enormous and it’s always changing, some new wine always on the come out as wine is on the popular rise and market well has to keep up with competition and differentiating themselves from very close narrow competitors, so to me it’s that sometimes the vaste choice makes me spin around a bit and to be able to keep up with new is not so evident, have a great day Gary 🙂

  • BelgianBeerMistress

    Great episode! I agree with you regarding all those “other” whites. So aromatic and lovely. I also can’t wait to head up to Jersey for the Vayniac party!!!

    QOTD: I still don’t know diddly squat about vintages. I mean, who can remember which area grew the best grapes that year? I know about the 2005 Bordeaux (mainly because you bring it up about once a week), but besides that, I never know. I have charts and things, but I never have them with me. I also never know which Portuguese wines to buy. That area is so iffy…

  • BelgianBeerMistress

    Great episode! I agree with you regarding all those “other” whites. So aromatic and lovely. I also can’t wait to head up to Jersey for the Vayniac party!!!

    QOTD: I still don’t know diddly squat about vintages. I mean, who can remember which area grew the best grapes that year? I know about the 2005 Bordeaux (mainly because you bring it up about once a week), but besides that, I never know. I have charts and things, but I never have them with me. I also never know which Portuguese wines to buy. That area is so iffy…

  • I drink white Rhone.
    I am a big fan of Châteauneuf-du-Pape Blanc La Nerthe.

  • I drink white Rhone.
    I am a big fan of Châteauneuf-du-Pape Blanc La Nerthe.

  • Totte

    Yo Gary

    QotD : White Rhones are some of top choices for white wine…Its up there with Rheingau Riesling and Austrian Chard. As of right now its very hard to even get a generic Côte de Rhône Blanc in Sweden…its a shame…

    To you Gary and all the Vayniacs…expect some northern european crazyness @ WL 22/3 its two day befor my birthday and I´m def. have to be there…

    Cheers
    Swedish T

  • tony

    What still mystifies me about wine is tasting when my palette isn’t prepared. How do you evaluate a freshly opened bottle in a restaurant when you might have just had a mint or some gum to freshen your breath before meeting someone for a great dinner? Bread doesn’t always help

  • Totte

    Yo Gary

    QotD : White Rhones are some of top choices for white wine…Its up there with Rheingau Riesling and Austrian Chard. As of right now its very hard to even get a generic Côte de Rhône Blanc in Sweden…its a shame…

    To you Gary and all the Vayniacs…expect some northern european crazyness @ WL 22/3 its two day befor my birthday and I´m def. have to be there…

    Cheers
    Swedish T

  • tony

    What still mystifies me about wine is tasting when my palette isn’t prepared. How do you evaluate a freshly opened bottle in a restaurant when you might have just had a mint or some gum to freshen your breath before meeting someone for a great dinner? Bread doesn’t always help

  • Susan

    Gary & Mott- I want the F cubed tee but only AFTER The ‘Mott, Link it up’ tee!!!!!! Hint!! Hint!!! 🙂

  • Susan

    Gary & Mott- I want the F cubed tee but only AFTER The ‘Mott, Link it up’ tee!!!!!! Hint!! Hint!!! 🙂

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