EP 448 California Zinfandel Death Match

Gary Vaynerchuk explores 3 very serious Zinfandels on the thunder show and talks a little more about his new book!

Wines tasted in this episode:

2004 Tres Sabores Rutherford ZinfandelNapa Red Zinfandel
2005 Neyers Zinfandel High ValleyOther California Red Zinfandel
2005 Ridge Lytton Springs ZinfandelSonoma Red Zinfandel

Links mentioned in todays episode.

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John__J

qotd too late for both, but any varietal or region you haven’t had on the show yet is what I like seeing the most.

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  • Grapedigger

    Good Show GV. For promoting the book, you tapping again into the WLTV viewers you may go for a draw for book buyers after 1-2 month whereby the winner would win 10-15 bottles featured in the book. The more books you buy, the more entries you’d get into the draw. You could also try doing the same strategy at the WL store & other possible wine stores. Also could you sell signed copied over WL stuff? Get a wine critic to a popular mag review the book (could always backfire though!!).
    QOTD: I’d like to see a show dedicated to Tannat. Cheers

  • David Harris

    I second what tooch said.

  • Grapedigger

    Good Show GV. For promoting the book, you tapping again into the WLTV viewers you may go for a draw for book buyers after 1-2 month whereby the winner would win 10-15 bottles featured in the book. The more books you buy, the more entries you’d get into the draw. You could also try doing the same strategy at the WL store & other possible wine stores. Also could you sell signed copied over WL stuff? Get a wine critic to a popular mag review the book (could always backfire though!!).
    QOTD: I’d like to see a show dedicated to Tannat. Cheers

  • Grapedigger

    Oh, here is another idea for the book, could you ask your 5000 facebook friends to put your book on the “My PAGE” section (you know like I am a fan of…you gotta create this though, just as the one for WLTV).

  • clell

    Q1 = put the audio book on itunes for a similar price.
    Q2 = this week try some of the Idaho or if you can find one Montana wines.

  • Grapedigger

    Oh, here is another idea for the book, could you ask your 5000 facebook friends to put your book on the “My PAGE” section (you know like I am a fan of…you gotta create this though, just as the one for WLTV).

  • clell

    Q1 = put the audio book on itunes for a similar price.
    Q2 = this week try some of the Idaho or if you can find one Montana wines.

  • Bernie Gehret

    Easy. Get Vaniacs to hold the book up at sporting events (a la “John 3:16” with the rainbow hair).

    Also, put a coupon in there for a free bottle of wine worth the price of the book (payable only on orders via winelibrary of course). Buy the book, get free wine = free book! (plus more internet traffic = more advertising $$$, etc.).

    My girlfriend wants a special on Rose, as she’s had really, REALLY bad ones as well as good ones. Summer is coming!

    Come visit us in Portland, Oregon, and we’ll uncork my favorite Quilceda Creek’s for you.

  • SteveM

    Gary,

    Good luck with the book. Come to Dallas and do a book signing and you’ll sell a ton of them. I would love to see you concentrate a few shows on wines of the Central Coast, focusing on some of the cabernets and pinots that mere mortals can get their hands on. Would love to see your comments on Fess Parker Syrahs and Pinots, along with Jaffeurs and Blackjack out of Santa Barbara. Thanks!

  • Bernie Gehret

    Easy. Get Vaniacs to hold the book up at sporting events (a la “John 3:16” with the rainbow hair).

    Also, put a coupon in there for a free bottle of wine worth the price of the book (payable only on orders via winelibrary of course). Buy the book, get free wine = free book! (plus more internet traffic = more advertising $$$, etc.).

    My girlfriend wants a special on Rose, as she’s had really, REALLY bad ones as well as good ones. Summer is coming!

    Come visit us in Portland, Oregon, and we’ll uncork my favorite Quilceda Creek’s for you.

  • SteveM

    Gary,

    Good luck with the book. Come to Dallas and do a book signing and you’ll sell a ton of them. I would love to see you concentrate a few shows on wines of the Central Coast, focusing on some of the cabernets and pinots that mere mortals can get their hands on. Would love to see your comments on Fess Parker Syrahs and Pinots, along with Jaffeurs and Blackjack out of Santa Barbara. Thanks!

  • Robin C

    QOTD: #1 Footwork – get back on that plane and hit all the bookstore in the U.S. #2 You could always try free shipping as a lure
    Spend some time on Spanish and Portuguese wines – as that is your area of expertise.

  • Robin C

    QOTD: #1 Footwork – get back on that plane and hit all the bookstore in the U.S. #2 You could always try free shipping as a lure
    Spend some time on Spanish and Portuguese wines – as that is your area of expertise.

  • Hi Gary – I don’t have any suggestions about the book (I already bought my 2 copies).

    QOTD – ’05 vs. ’06 Oregon Pinots…I think that the ’06s are drinking better than the ’05s right now.

    Great show – I love Zin!

  • Hi Gary – I don’t have any suggestions about the book (I already bought my 2 copies).

    QOTD – ’05 vs. ’06 Oregon Pinots…I think that the ’06s are drinking better than the ’05s right now.

    Great show – I love Zin!

  • QOTD
    You should start a rumor that there was a disgruntled graphic design artist that added something illicit to the cover art. You’ll sell millions!

    How about a show on “Don’t be THAT guy/girl.” Discuss how trying to force high end wines on unsuspecting wine newbies is the best way to ensure that they “do not like wine.”

    Dave

  • CuriousInStLouis

    and WHAM! the Neyers is sold out already!

  • QOTD
    You should start a rumor that there was a disgruntled graphic design artist that added something illicit to the cover art. You’ll sell millions!

    How about a show on “Don’t be THAT guy/girl.” Discuss how trying to force high end wines on unsuspecting wine newbies is the best way to ensure that they “do not like wine.”

    Dave

  • CuriousInStLouis

    and WHAM! the Neyers is sold out already!

  • Kelly

    Got my book ordered! The Kentucky Derby is coming up and the field this year is exciting and wide open. The first Saturday in May is a great day to enjoy with friends and the drink is BOURBON! How about tasting some of the high end, single barrel bourbons that have exploded on the scene in the past decade. My new fav: Elmer T. Lee.

  • Kelly

    Got my book ordered! The Kentucky Derby is coming up and the field this year is exciting and wide open. The first Saturday in May is a great day to enjoy with friends and the drink is BOURBON! How about tasting some of the high end, single barrel bourbons that have exploded on the scene in the past decade. My new fav: Elmer T. Lee.

  • Tim Ray

    Hey Gary,

    Interesting show on the zinfandels! As a huge zinfandel fan, I really appreciate those. Have you ever tried Bella, from Dry Creek Valley? If not, get your hands on some and review them! They absolutely rock. HUGE fruit, serious old vines (80-110 years old for the Big River Ranch), and stupidly high scores (the 2005 Lily Hill Estate scored 94 points in WS.) I would love to see your review on that one….

    As far as show ideas, I think you should do a review of SPOKANE, WASHINGTON wineries!! We have Robert Karl Cellars and their Horse Heaven Hills sourced fruit (amazing, highly structured, age worthy wines that receive rave reviews from everyone), Barrister Cellars (getting famous for their Cabernet Franc, although their syrahs are very serious efforts, and their cabs and merlots are also monsters), Grande Ronde (Walla Walla fruit, very good stuff), Nodland Cellars (they do a Bordeaux blend that is very nice), Townshend Cellars (nice whites, very good Cab Franc, and some great daily drinkers at the $9 to $17 price point), and several others. We now have 12 wineries in the Spokane area, all using Columbia Valley and Walla Walla Valley fruit. I’m telling ya….. some of these wineries are stupidly good! And I will put up a $28 Robert Karl Cab or syrah or merlot…. or a Barrister ANYTHING up against any Napa Valley wine at twice the price. Just a thought! Cheers, Tim

  • Tim Ray

    Hey Gary,

    Interesting show on the zinfandels! As a huge zinfandel fan, I really appreciate those. Have you ever tried Bella, from Dry Creek Valley? If not, get your hands on some and review them! They absolutely rock. HUGE fruit, serious old vines (80-110 years old for the Big River Ranch), and stupidly high scores (the 2005 Lily Hill Estate scored 94 points in WS.) I would love to see your review on that one….

    As far as show ideas, I think you should do a review of SPOKANE, WASHINGTON wineries!! We have Robert Karl Cellars and their Horse Heaven Hills sourced fruit (amazing, highly structured, age worthy wines that receive rave reviews from everyone), Barrister Cellars (getting famous for their Cabernet Franc, although their syrahs are very serious efforts, and their cabs and merlots are also monsters), Grande Ronde (Walla Walla fruit, very good stuff), Nodland Cellars (they do a Bordeaux blend that is very nice), Townshend Cellars (nice whites, very good Cab Franc, and some great daily drinkers at the $9 to $17 price point), and several others. We now have 12 wineries in the Spokane area, all using Columbia Valley and Walla Walla Valley fruit. I’m telling ya….. some of these wineries are stupidly good! And I will put up a $28 Robert Karl Cab or syrah or merlot…. or a Barrister ANYTHING up against any Napa Valley wine at twice the price. Just a thought! Cheers, Tim

  • QOTD: It’s time for a Rose Death Match! Bring the Thunder, baby!

  • QOTD: It’s time for a Rose Death Match! Bring the Thunder, baby!

  • RnD

    Good show GV! I look forward to watching every evening. QOTD 1: Talk to Eric over on Cellartracker.com I know you two are working deals 😉 50000+ subscribers… how can you go wrong? just think if each one bought 2 books!!!

    QOTD 2: With summer just around the corner, how about some white bordeaux.

  • RnD

    Good show GV! I look forward to watching every evening. QOTD 1: Talk to Eric over on Cellartracker.com I know you two are working deals 😉 50000+ subscribers… how can you go wrong? just think if each one bought 2 books!!!

    QOTD 2: With summer just around the corner, how about some white bordeaux.

  • QOTD #1: One word… OPRAH.

    QOTD #2: Go completely off the board and do wines from completely unheard-of areas, like Moldova (great Pinots) or Hungary (Cserszegi Fűszeres or Hárslevelű)

    Paul in VA

  • QOTD #1: One word… OPRAH.

    QOTD #2: Go completely off the board and do wines from completely unheard-of areas, like Moldova (great Pinots) or Hungary (Cserszegi Fűszeres or Hárslevelű)

    Paul in VA

  • Steve & Marilee

    We agree Pink Death Match time! Spring will come someday soon.

  • The BEST idea for the book is maximizing word of mouth exposure, which it looks like you’re doing already. As a follow-on book, have a contest to select maybe 25 of the Vayniacs who ordered the book, and let them provide their own reviews/comments and get involved (kind of like the wine project). I have to tell you, I see a magazine coming soon, Gary V!

    I haven’t had a 2006 Pinot yet…I HAVE had a 2005 Duck Pond and overall it was a pretty “elegantly” styled wine – almost delicate – but overall kind of flat. I thought I read somewhere that the 2005 was a slammin’ vintage – I didn’t taste it. Sad thing was, I let it sit on the bar uncorked overnight (an oversight, not on purpose!) and it tasted better the next afternoon.

  • CORSkier

    QOTD1: Google advertising.

    QOTD2: Southern Oregon wines! If not those, at least try and showcase what comes out of this state BESIDES Pinot Noir. Or maybe a Petite Sirah show? That would be cool. Or Roussanne, I know there are some of those popping up in the states. I love your episodes on wines that aren’t as well known.

  • Steve & Marilee

    We agree Pink Death Match time! Spring will come someday soon.

  • The BEST idea for the book is maximizing word of mouth exposure, which it looks like you’re doing already. As a follow-on book, have a contest to select maybe 25 of the Vayniacs who ordered the book, and let them provide their own reviews/comments and get involved (kind of like the wine project). I have to tell you, I see a magazine coming soon, Gary V!

    I haven’t had a 2006 Pinot yet…I HAVE had a 2005 Duck Pond and overall it was a pretty “elegantly” styled wine – almost delicate – but overall kind of flat. I thought I read somewhere that the 2005 was a slammin’ vintage – I didn’t taste it. Sad thing was, I let it sit on the bar uncorked overnight (an oversight, not on purpose!) and it tasted better the next afternoon.

  • CORSkier

    QOTD1: Google advertising.

    QOTD2: Southern Oregon wines! If not those, at least try and showcase what comes out of this state BESIDES Pinot Noir. Or maybe a Petite Sirah show? That would be cool. Or Roussanne, I know there are some of those popping up in the states. I love your episodes on wines that aren’t as well known.

  • Your welcome.

    What was the first question of the day? I forget already. Oh right, marketing ideas. Trust me I am not the one to ask. I would just say let people buy it if the want.

  • JeffH

    Gary, great show. My wife and I really enjoy zins. I have tried some Ridge but the other two are new to me. You got me pumped about the Neyers. I will track that one down. Had a very good zin from a small Napa producer last week, Laura Zahtila Vineyards 2005. Makes a nice cab also.

    QOTD #1: Get a copy on the next space shuttle flight!

    QOTD #2: How about 3-4 spanish red blends or Ribera del Duero 2003 from 3-4 different winemakers?

  • Your welcome.

    What was the first question of the day? I forget already. Oh right, marketing ideas. Trust me I am not the one to ask. I would just say let people buy it if the want.

  • JeffH

    Gary, great show. My wife and I really enjoy zins. I have tried some Ridge but the other two are new to me. You got me pumped about the Neyers. I will track that one down. Had a very good zin from a small Napa producer last week, Laura Zahtila Vineyards 2005. Makes a nice cab also.

    QOTD #1: Get a copy on the next space shuttle flight!

    QOTD #2: How about 3-4 spanish red blends or Ribera del Duero 2003 from 3-4 different winemakers?

  • Jerry the 2thdr

    QOTD You need a national TV appearence to push the book. Perhaps on the food channel or Oprah. How about a Corton-Charlemagne tasting perhaps head to head with some top Chardsfrom around the world. Jerry the 2thdr

  • Jerry the 2thdr

    QOTD You need a national TV appearence to push the book. Perhaps on the food channel or Oprah. How about a Corton-Charlemagne tasting perhaps head to head with some top Chardsfrom around the world. Jerry the 2thdr

  • Mike Godkin

    Hey Gary howz it goin,

    I just wanted to say that I started watching your show about a week ago and have since watched about 30 episodes, I have to say that I don’t think I learned more about any particular subject quite as quickly as I have learned with your help on the thunder show. You’ve inspired me into becoming an avid wine collector/sampler. Ill be picking up one or two of your books up in the next week or so (Mums day coming up). Have you done a British Columbia wines show? I haven’t seen one so far. Anyway keep up the good work and Ill be watching.

    Mike from Vancouver Canada

  • Steve & Marilee

    QOTD publish random sections (selections) across the web … put 40 to 50 out there as a tease. Or start dropping 102 through 150..

  • For the second question of the day:

    I agree with Newman about wines from BC. It would be nice to be able to get the wines you review and then watch the episode again and see if I can tell what you are talking about.

  • Mike Godkin

    Hey Gary howz it goin,

    I just wanted to say that I started watching your show about a week ago and have since watched about 30 episodes, I have to say that I don’t think I learned more about any particular subject quite as quickly as I have learned with your help on the thunder show. You’ve inspired me into becoming an avid wine collector/sampler. Ill be picking up one or two of your books up in the next week or so (Mums day coming up). Have you done a British Columbia wines show? I haven’t seen one so far. Anyway keep up the good work and Ill be watching.

    Mike from Vancouver Canada

  • Steve & Marilee

    QOTD publish random sections (selections) across the web … put 40 to 50 out there as a tease. Or start dropping 102 through 150..

  • For the second question of the day:

    I agree with Newman about wines from BC. It would be nice to be able to get the wines you review and then watch the episode again and see if I can tell what you are talking about.

  • Do the Teachworth Kirk left! Should be really interesting to see if there are any differences.

    Go for some Shane Syrah that you tried some of in Cali.

    More Cali Grenache–Dry Stack is doing some & I know there are a few others fairly acclaimed.

    Most importantly, lots of blind and DOUBLE BLIND tasting! Chyeah, grow some.

    And I like the comment about Iron Chef America…would be fun, great food, great promotion.

  • Do the Teachworth Kirk left! Should be really interesting to see if there are any differences.

    Go for some Shane Syrah that you tried some of in Cali.

    More Cali Grenache–Dry Stack is doing some & I know there are a few others fairly acclaimed.

    Most importantly, lots of blind and DOUBLE BLIND tasting! Chyeah, grow some.

    And I like the comment about Iron Chef America…would be fun, great food, great promotion.

  • DirtWineKen

    Gary, your shows only get better — thank you. OK down to business!!
    QOTD1: I don’t remember tha question.
    QOTD2: California Petite Syrah!!! Pls include Eaglepoint Ranch 2005.

    I’m gonna ask now, any many times in the future,for an awsome GV casemesque shout out for my big 60 this year on August 5, 2008!

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