EP 453 Gruner And A South African White Blend

Gary Vaynerchuk tries out some white wines and lets the vayniacs know what he thinks about GV’s and a wild blend from South Africa

Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Berhard Ott Fass 4 Gruner VeltlinerAustrian Gruner Veltliner
2006 Meinhard Forstreiter Gruner Veltliner TaborAustrian Gruner Veltliner
2006 Sadie Family PalladiusOther South African White Win

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John__J

qotd: haven’t had a ton from either, and there’s a lot of Austrian wines out there that I wanna try but can’t find. So I gotta go with Gruner for Austria (big surprise) and chenin for South Africa (huge surprise).

Tags: Austria, Gruner Veltliner, meritage, review, South Africa, Video, white, wine, wines

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  • gregtrop

    Gary, Nice work on the draft, I think that you were a little sad that you didn’t get McFadden and my Raiders did get him. I know you predicted it, but it’s gonna hurt to have him run circles around the Jets in October.

    QOTD: I’ve had a couple of South African wines but nothing notable.

  • gregtrop

    Gary, Nice work on the draft, I think that you were a little sad that you didn’t get McFadden and my Raiders did get him. I know you predicted it, but it’s gonna hurt to have him run circles around the Jets in October.

    QOTD: I’ve had a couple of South African wines but nothing notable.

  • manonthemoon

    Great show, starting to crave a white now that the temps are warming. Sorry the jets and you had a rough weekend, I think you reached with the TE in the 1st and the DE might not be the superstar pass rusher that some people think at the next level. Of course this is a good thing for my dirty fish who I thought did well, but next year is going to be another brutal top 10 draft pick year.

    QOTD: Would have to be be a Gruner from Anton Bauer, but I am not supper familiar with the area. Definately have to check into SA since Chenin is getting big there and I love a good vouvray.

  • manonthemoon

    Great show, starting to crave a white now that the temps are warming. Sorry the jets and you had a rough weekend, I think you reached with the TE in the 1st and the DE might not be the superstar pass rusher that some people think at the next level. Of course this is a good thing for my dirty fish who I thought did well, but next year is going to be another brutal top 10 draft pick year.

    QOTD: Would have to be be a Gruner from Anton Bauer, but I am not supper familiar with the area. Definately have to check into SA since Chenin is getting big there and I love a good vouvray.

  • */^_^*

    saw you on ESPN

    went to my first wine tasting, and a dry Spanish rose made from grenache was the highlight…..i guess you might know what you’re talking about

    qotd: had austrian GV, was quite tasty iirc
    9.1

  • alana

    right on…my kind of episode.

    qotd: true gary, ive never had one that i can remember, but that fass is going on my list!

  • */^_^\*

    saw you on ESPN

    went to my first wine tasting, and a dry Spanish rose made from grenache was the highlight…..i guess you might know what you’re talking about

    qotd: had austrian GV, was quite tasty iirc
    9.1

  • alana

    right on…my kind of episode.

    qotd: true gary, ive never had one that i can remember, but that fass is going on my list!

  • The Lukas

    QOTD: Gary, i’ll be honest with you.
    I’ve been “in to” wine for 6 months or so, and i’ve tried wines from all over.
    I go into stores, and buy the wines i haven’t heard of.
    I drink them, i share them, but i find it hard to keep track.
    If i find a wine i like, i write it down, but i’m more interesting in trying new things than buying the same wine again.
    I seem to like interesting wines more than “good” wines.
    I’d rather have a wine that has a weird and cool smell, than just a standard good wine.
    I have tried many wines from South Africa, i just can’t remember them.

  • The Lukas

    QOTD: Gary, i’ll be honest with you.
    I’ve been “in to” wine for 6 months or so, and i’ve tried wines from all over.
    I go into stores, and buy the wines i haven’t heard of.
    I drink them, i share them, but i find it hard to keep track.
    If i find a wine i like, i write it down, but i’m more interesting in trying new things than buying the same wine again.
    I seem to like interesting wines more than “good” wines.
    I’d rather have a wine that has a weird and cool smell, than just a standard good wine.
    I have tried many wines from South Africa, i just can’t remember them.

  • mazdaspeedy3

    I’ve never had a SA white wine that I thought was good, the burnt rubber thing that so many SA wines get is a HUGE turn off.

    Austrian white wines are interesting, can’t think of producers at the moment, but I love the acidity and minerality of these wines.

    I’ve been drinking more serious white wine lately, but it’s kinda frustrating when many people around me seem to dismiss white wine and are drinking boring reds instead and thinking their wine experience is somehow superior.

  • mazdaspeedy3

    I’ve never had a SA white wine that I thought was good, the burnt rubber thing that so many SA wines get is a HUGE turn off.

    Austrian white wines are interesting, can’t think of producers at the moment, but I love the acidity and minerality of these wines.

    I’ve been drinking more serious white wine lately, but it’s kinda frustrating when many people around me seem to dismiss white wine and are drinking boring reds instead and thinking their wine experience is somehow superior.

  • Geoff

    QOTD: Hard to say, had great wines from Hiedler, Brundlmeyer, Nikolaihof, but probably the best was a Nigl Piri Privat Riesling, laser sharp but with the weight of a smaragd…and I second jpwardaia’s request for you to “step outside of the box” and try some Nortons (vitis aestivalis), America’s true grape.

  • Geoff

    QOTD: Hard to say, had great wines from Hiedler, Brundlmeyer, Nikolaihof, but probably the best was a Nigl Piri Privat Riesling, laser sharp but with the weight of a smaragd…and I second jpwardaia’s request for you to “step outside of the box” and try some Nortons (vitis aestivalis), America’s true grape.

  • jason carey

    Gar, the 2005 Hirtzberger Gruner Veltliner Rots Tor , is so friggin’ fabulous.. and is just sublime Gruner. Drink more gruner, folks.. and Ott makes great value gruners..You should taste some Hirtzberger, Pichler and Schloss Gobelsberg to name a few.

  • jason carey

    Gar, the 2005 Hirtzberger Gruner Veltliner Rots Tor , is so friggin’ fabulous.. and is just sublime Gruner. Drink more gruner, folks.. and Ott makes great value gruners..You should taste some Hirtzberger, Pichler and Schloss Gobelsberg to name a few.

  • chenin

    I had the 2006 Ott Fass 4 at Christmas and think it’s good.
    Last bottle will be with a nice chicken on a sunny spring day.

  • Again an impressing show, Gary! I Like the “Zzzap Thing” 😉 Had some midrange Gruene Veltliners in the past. Mostly good stuff, but not so up my palate in case of to high accidity, minerality and the typical white pepper finish. Never had the OTT yet. Will be interessting.

  • chenin

    I had the 2006 Ott Fass 4 at Christmas and think it’s good.
    Last bottle will be with a nice chicken on a sunny spring day.

  • Again an impressing show, Gary! I Like the “Zzzap Thing” 😉 Had some midrange Gruene Veltliners in the past. Mostly good stuff, but not so up my palate in case of to high accidity, minerality and the typical white pepper finish. Never had the OTT yet. Will be interessting.

  • QOTD – the 2003 Hiedler Riesling Smaragd Heiligenstein. One huge, palate-coating, dry, exotic-as-all-get-out mofo of a wine. Didn’t once regret spending the $36 on this one.

  • QOTD – the 2003 Hiedler Riesling Smaragd Heiligenstein. One huge, palate-coating, dry, exotic-as-all-get-out mofo of a wine. Didn’t once regret spending the $36 on this one.

  • Ondra

    Did I hear you mention The Czech Republic for the first time ever? Cool! Bet you´ve never tried any Czech wine. Shall I send you a secret pack?

    QOTD: 2006 dry Riesling from Weingut Neustifter in Poysdorf

  • Ondra

    Did I hear you mention The Czech Republic for the first time ever? Cool! Bet you´ve never tried any Czech wine. Shall I send you a secret pack?

    QOTD: 2006 dry Riesling from Weingut Neustifter in Poysdorf

  • Neil

    QOTD: Nigl â??Senftenberger Piriâ?, Kremstal, Austria. Yummy.

  • Neil

    QOTD: Nigl â??Senftenberger Piriâ?, Kremstal, Austria. Yummy.

  • Kev and Ams

    QOTD: I have only had a Pinotage from South Africa. It was good.

  • Kev and Ams

    QOTD: I have only had a Pinotage from South Africa. It was good.

  • Zinny

    Nice show. I also marvel at how anybody can be a wine lover and not like *any* white wine . .or pink wine (Eric Asimov says he doesn’t like rose? c’mon) or even this varietal or that (anything but chardonnay? – ridiculous!). There’s so much out there that blanket statements like that are an obvious red flag that a person doesn’t really know what they’re talking about and needs to get out and taste some more. Well . .Eric Asimov certainly knows what he’s talking about but I still disagree about rose.

    QOTD – I have only tried GV once – after watching one of your other shows about it I picked up the 2006 Schloss Gobelsburg. I liked it a lot.

  • Zinny

    Nice show. I also marvel at how anybody can be a wine lover and not like *any* white wine . .or pink wine (Eric Asimov says he doesn’t like rose? c’mon) or even this varietal or that (anything but chardonnay? – ridiculous!). There’s so much out there that blanket statements like that are an obvious red flag that a person doesn’t really know what they’re talking about and needs to get out and taste some more. Well . .Eric Asimov certainly knows what he’s talking about but I still disagree about rose.

    QOTD – I have only tried GV once – after watching one of your other shows about it I picked up the 2006 Schloss Gobelsburg. I liked it a lot.

  • “â?¦And the Jets win the Superbowl!” great quote on ESPN following the jets reaction of getting Gholston. I know you guys were really hoping that McFadden would fall to you, but that would be expecting too much thought from Al Davis. Hate to tell you this, but Gholston was not what you were hoping for going into the draft. GO SEAHAWKS!!!

    I saw you several times during Saturday’s broadcast, what’s up with pointing at your head?

    QOTD: I have no idea. Way too much going on to keep track of what I drink.

  • “â?¦And the Jets win the Superbowl!” great quote on ESPN following the jets reaction of getting Gholston. I know you guys were really hoping that McFadden would fall to you, but that would be expecting too much thought from Al Davis. Hate to tell you this, but Gholston was not what you were hoping for going into the draft. GO SEAHAWKS!!!

    I saw you several times during Saturday’s broadcast, what’s up with pointing at your head?

    QOTD: I have no idea. Way too much going on to keep track of what I drink.

  • Absoultely great show! I would love to try the Ott or Palladius at some point!

  • DaveJ

    QOTD: Prager Gruner Veltliner – don’t remember the year

  • Orion

    I was much more in to beer when I was living in Salzburg, so I never took great notice of what wine I was drinking, but I remember the seasonal wine Sturm, which thinking back was just fermenting must I believe. They only served it for the period of about a month, which must have been shortly after harvest, but it was everywhere. I’m sure if it’s still fermenting, they can’t bottle it and export it, though, so you’d have to go there in season to get it, which is wholly worthwhile for a plethora of reasons.

  • Absoultely great show! I would love to try the Ott or Palladius at some point!

  • DaveJ

    QOTD: Prager Gruner Veltliner – don’t remember the year

  • Orion

    I was much more in to beer when I was living in Salzburg, so I never took great notice of what wine I was drinking, but I remember the seasonal wine Sturm, which thinking back was just fermenting must I believe. They only served it for the period of about a month, which must have been shortly after harvest, but it was everywhere. I’m sure if it’s still fermenting, they can’t bottle it and export it, though, so you’d have to go there in season to get it, which is wholly worthwhile for a plethora of reasons.

  • Dr. Dan

    Thanks for the Gruner Veltliner show. I bought some of the Fass 4 several weeks ago, but haven’t picked them up yet from WL. Now, I’m excited to try one. Sorry, I’ve been “comment” absent lately.

  • Dr. Dan

    Thanks for the Gruner Veltliner show. I bought some of the Fass 4 several weeks ago, but haven’t picked them up yet from WL. Now, I’m excited to try one. Sorry, I’ve been “comment” absent lately.

  • Al

    Great show today, Gary. Lot’s of wine talk.

  • Al

    Great show today, Gary. Lot’s of wine talk.

  • David M Roberts

    QOTD: It was a South African (Sauvignon Blanc, I believe) called “Headbutt,” which depicted two horn entangled rams on the label. Really crisp and clean, with great minerality. Can’t find it anywhere now.

  • Kdawg

    QOTD: I haven’t had any austrian whites, but, checking them out is on the docket for this year for me. As far as south african, I’ve had some really good sauvignon blancs with the 06 De Grendel Sauvignon Blanc being really enjoyable and the 06 Mulderbosch SB also being really enjoyable. I also enjoyed a 06 Seidelberg Viognier recently too. I’ve really been enjoying the whites from South Africa a lot more then the reds

  • David M Roberts

    QOTD: It was a South African (Sauvignon Blanc, I believe) called “Headbutt,” which depicted two horn entangled rams on the label. Really crisp and clean, with great minerality. Can’t find it anywhere now.

  • Kdawg

    QOTD: I haven’t had any austrian whites, but, checking them out is on the docket for this year for me. As far as south african, I’ve had some really good sauvignon blancs with the 06 De Grendel Sauvignon Blanc being really enjoyable and the 06 Mulderbosch SB also being really enjoyable. I also enjoyed a 06 Seidelberg Viognier recently too. I’ve really been enjoying the whites from South Africa a lot more then the reds

  • Fine ep!

  • Fine ep!

  • FJDR

    QOTD: You’re right – I’ve had neither a S. African nor an Austrian white. Good show today, I’ll have to see if I can find a Gruner around here.

  • FJDR

    QOTD: You’re right – I’ve had neither a S. African nor an Austrian white. Good show today, I’ll have to see if I can find a Gruner around here.

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