EP 453 Gruner And A South African White Blend

Gary Vaynerchuk tries out some white wines and lets the vayniacs know what he thinks about GV’s and a wild blend from South Africa

Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Berhard Ott Fass 4 Gruner VeltlinerAustrian Gruner Veltliner
2006 Meinhard Forstreiter Gruner Veltliner TaborAustrian Gruner Veltliner
2006 Sadie Family PalladiusOther South African White Win

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John__J

qotd: haven’t had a ton from either, and there’s a lot of Austrian wines out there that I wanna try but can’t find. So I gotta go with Gruner for Austria (big surprise) and chenin for South Africa (huge surprise).

Tags: Austria, Gruner Veltliner, meritage, review, South Africa, Video, white, wine, wines

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  • stephen

    I heard that Palladius was good, glad to see it got you thinking. Eben Sadie has got to be the best winemaker in South Africa right now.
    Growing up in South Africa and being in the wine industry I loved the Mulderbosch and Rustenberg wines [S.B and 5 soldiers] but the unique wine has to be Chenin Blanc made by Teddy Hall at Rudera. On the red side the Buitenverwachtin Christine is phenomenal as well the De Trafford reds.
    good show and more S.A wines would be great, a little bit of home!

  • stephen

    I heard that Palladius was good, glad to see it got you thinking. Eben Sadie has got to be the best winemaker in South Africa right now.
    Growing up in South Africa and being in the wine industry I loved the Mulderbosch and Rustenberg wines [S.B and 5 soldiers] but the unique wine has to be Chenin Blanc made by Teddy Hall at Rudera. On the red side the Buitenverwachtin Christine is phenomenal as well the De Trafford reds.
    good show and more S.A wines would be great, a little bit of home!

  • Adam J

    QOTD: A whole slew of Gruner V’s at my brothers bachelor party I threw him at an Austrian restaurant…there were quite a few of them so I cant recall any specifics. We also drank some of the house “Heuriger” which was great!! Did I see you during the draft coverage wearing a white#52 jersey? I thought I did, but then I didnt see it on the clip montage. Great show!!

  • Adam J

    QOTD: A whole slew of Gruner V’s at my brothers bachelor party I threw him at an Austrian restaurant…there were quite a few of them so I cant recall any specifics. We also drank some of the house “Heuriger” which was great!! Did I see you during the draft coverage wearing a white#52 jersey? I thought I did, but then I didnt see it on the clip montage. Great show!!

  • SaraMHCRU

    haven’t had any in recent memory, but i’m always looking for interesting whites, so they’ll go on the list!

  • SaraMHCRU

    haven’t had any in recent memory, but i’m always looking for interesting whites, so they’ll go on the list!

  • lurkdawg

    I don’t remember the producers or vintages, but I’ve had a couple of Gruner Veltliners that I have really enjoyed. In the $12-$20 range, those examples have excited me more than the S.A. whites I have tried. I think the Dr Unger Gruner is pretty widely available and I’ve liked the ones I’ve had.

  • lurkdawg

    I don’t remember the producers or vintages, but I’ve had a couple of Gruner Veltliners that I have really enjoyed. In the $12-$20 range, those examples have excited me more than the S.A. whites I have tried. I think the Dr Unger Gruner is pretty widely available and I’ve liked the ones I’ve had.

  • Rossodio

    Hey G, saw you on the draft, good face time, man! About the last wine on this show, the best bottle of white I’ve had is a Chatauneuf du Pape blanc. I’d really LOVE to get ahold of a bottle of this palladius.

    On another note, I know suggestion day was last week, but I have a suggestion for you: you mention food pairings for wines in passing at times (i.e. the fried shrimp with the gruve on this episode)… it would be great it you threw one or two food pairings up for all the wines you try that you like. Would be great for those of us who put food and wine hand in hand.

    QOTD: I’ve only had 5 bottles of S. African/Austrian whites… A Chenin Blanc and 2 Sauv Blancs from S. Africa, and 2 Gruner Veltliners from Austria. Really, the 2007 Sauvignon Republic Cellars Sauvignon Blanc was the best of the bunch — and I had it within the last month. That being said, in my mind it was a bit overdone on the acidity. Here’s my tasting note on it:

    Loud citrus on the nose walks hand in hand with that characteristic South African mild smokiness with a hint of wet brown fall leaves. Bright acidity (perhaps a bit overly acid), almost effervescent on the palate, with citrus, passion fruits, a bit of fresh cut grass, a bit of mineraly taste, and a smoked fatty meat taste that you pick up from many Stellenbosch wines. The finish tapers off quickly but nicely, with a pleasant balance. Pretty solid, though not terribly complex. Does what it does very well. A good match for Thai food. 88 Points.

  • Rossodio

    Hey G, saw you on the draft, good face time, man! About the last wine on this show, the best bottle of white I’ve had is a Chatauneuf du Pape blanc. I’d really LOVE to get ahold of a bottle of this palladius.

    On another note, I know suggestion day was last week, but I have a suggestion for you: you mention food pairings for wines in passing at times (i.e. the fried shrimp with the gruve on this episode)… it would be great it you threw one or two food pairings up for all the wines you try that you like. Would be great for those of us who put food and wine hand in hand.

    QOTD: I’ve only had 5 bottles of S. African/Austrian whites… A Chenin Blanc and 2 Sauv Blancs from S. Africa, and 2 Gruner Veltliners from Austria. Really, the 2007 Sauvignon Republic Cellars Sauvignon Blanc was the best of the bunch — and I had it within the last month. That being said, in my mind it was a bit overdone on the acidity. Here’s my tasting note on it:

    Loud citrus on the nose walks hand in hand with that characteristic South African mild smokiness with a hint of wet brown fall leaves. Bright acidity (perhaps a bit overly acid), almost effervescent on the palate, with citrus, passion fruits, a bit of fresh cut grass, a bit of mineraly taste, and a smoked fatty meat taste that you pick up from many Stellenbosch wines. The finish tapers off quickly but nicely, with a pleasant balance. Pretty solid, though not terribly complex. Does what it does very well. A good match for Thai food. 88 Points.

  • Kelly

    Hey Mott! Your Giants got a humongous STEAL in Andre Woodson from my Kentucky Wildcats. I can’t believe he lasted until the 6th round. You will be ecstatic to have him on your team.

  • Kelly

    Hey Mott! Your Giants got a humongous STEAL in Andre Woodson from my Kentucky Wildcats. I can’t believe he lasted until the 6th round. You will be ecstatic to have him on your team.

  • Bal H.

    Iona Sauvignon Blanc. Delicious!

  • Sarno

    Great show!

    QOTD: Haven’t tried any yet.

    Will have to try the Berhard Ott soon.

  • Bal H.

    Iona Sauvignon Blanc. Delicious!

  • Sarno

    Great show!

    QOTD: Haven’t tried any yet.

    Will have to try the Berhard Ott soon.

  • JoeShmo

    i gotta tell ya Gary, you were focused today. you really brought the thunder. as always great show bud.
    QOTD: still a newbie in the wine field, maybe 2 months. havent had south african wines yet.

  • JoeShmo

    i gotta tell ya Gary, you were focused today. you really brought the thunder. as always great show bud.
    QOTD: still a newbie in the wine field, maybe 2 months. havent had south african wines yet.

  • Ricky B.

    QOTD- never had one before, just ordered a few bottles of the Palladius though.

  • Ricky B.

    QOTD- never had one before, just ordered a few bottles of the Palladius though.

  • mcj

    QOTD: I don’t think I’ve had either.

  • mcj

    QOTD: I don’t think I’ve had either.

  • wayno da wino

    Yo G , Interestin’ Vinos Ya had there in da Hizzy !!

    QOTD: From South Africa, only had a couple Pinotages, never had any
    whites….yet. That Palladius Ya had sounds like a Must-Try!! Had a
    few Gruners from Austria (in da $10-$20 range), but nothin’ dat blew me
    socks-off, yet………..

  • wayno da wino

    Yo G , Interestin’ Vinos Ya had there in da Hizzy !!

    QOTD: From South Africa, only had a couple Pinotages, never had any
    whites….yet. That Palladius Ya had sounds like a Must-Try!! Had a
    few Gruners from Austria (in da $10-$20 range), but nothin’ dat blew me
    socks-off, yet………..

  • the unknown chef

    Hey Gary, can you give a little more on why you want shrimp with that GV? I think the food and wine pairing thing can come off like some mysterious voodoo for a lot of folks. Maybe you could slip in some pairing principles so everyone can get the most from their wine (particularly those $50 ones).

    2007 Cederberg Bukettraube. I think it was about $15. It took me 10 minutes to actually taste it because the nose was so seductive. I got so excited. Sort of like the Palladius was for you.

  • the unknown chef

    Hey Gary, can you give a little more on why you want shrimp with that GV? I think the food and wine pairing thing can come off like some mysterious voodoo for a lot of folks. Maybe you could slip in some pairing principles so everyone can get the most from their wine (particularly those $50 ones).

    2007 Cederberg Bukettraube. I think it was about $15. It took me 10 minutes to actually taste it because the nose was so seductive. I got so excited. Sort of like the Palladius was for you.

  • I just had a chenin blanc from south africa the other day. I loved it. Unfortunately I don’t remember the label. I don’t have to, it’s the only one they sell at my local liquor store. I bought it a long with a bunch of other whites looking to try some new stuff.

  • I just had a chenin blanc from south africa the other day. I loved it. Unfortunately I don’t remember the label. I don’t have to, it’s the only one they sell at my local liquor store. I bought it a long with a bunch of other whites looking to try some new stuff.

  • John

    Weingut Stadt Krems Sandgrube Gruner Veltliner ’06

    Or anything Kracher

  • John

    Weingut Stadt Krems Sandgrube Gruner Veltliner ’06

    Or anything Kracher

  • QOTD: Can’t say I’ve had a white SA wine (or al least nothing memorable). Sounds like the Ott has a good QPR so I will give it a try shortly.

    B

  • QOTD: Can’t say I’ve had a white SA wine (or al least nothing memorable). Sounds like the Ott has a good QPR so I will give it a try shortly.

    B

  • Great show Gary. I’m looking forward to trying this varietal.
    QOTD- I’ve never had a south african white…so I’ll have to put that on my list of things to do as well.

  • Great show Gary. I’m looking forward to trying this varietal.
    QOTD- I’ve never had a south african white…so I’ll have to put that on my list of things to do as well.

  • stewart l

    I actuallly emailed you a week or so ago to do an episode of Gruner Veltliner(probably one of the 3000 still left). I actually received the Fass 4 wine this past week, unfortunately I see it is sold out already.
    QOD-I’ve enjoyed sev vintages of the Mulderbusch Chenin blanc recently

  • stewart l

    I actuallly emailed you a week or so ago to do an episode of Gruner Veltliner(probably one of the 3000 still left). I actually received the Fass 4 wine this past week, unfortunately I see it is sold out already.
    QOD-I’ve enjoyed sev vintages of the Mulderbusch Chenin blanc recently

  • LauraG

    Hey – GV drinking GV, that’s COOL.

    QOTD: You didn’t say DRY white wine, so I will go with the Klein Constantia Vin de Constance. Yummy.

  • LauraG

    Hey – GV drinking GV, that’s COOL.

    QOTD: You didn’t say DRY white wine, so I will go with the Klein Constantia Vin de Constance. Yummy.

  • QOTD: Never had one. Very interesting ep.

  • QOTD: Never had one. Very interesting ep.

  • Rob P

    Never had an austrian wine. Only had one south african wine, but it was red.

  • Rob P

    Never had an austrian wine. Only had one south african wine, but it was red.

  • TWalk

    The only GV ive had is the Hirsch GV…..with the strange label with a deer…..pretty tasty for 8 buckaroos

  • TWalk

    The only GV ive had is the Hirsch GV…..with the strange label with a deer…..pretty tasty for 8 buckaroos

  • Lindsay

    THANK YOU!!! It was a great birthday! I had sparkling malbec rose at dinner and some California Rhone-style deliciousness from Kunin on the Central Coast. All with oysters and ahi tuna and gazpacho at a South American restaurant — yum!

    Thank you so much for the shout-out. 🙂 (And thanks Kristen!!)

    QOTD: Hmm. I have had the South African Groote Post white blend and I wasn’t that impressed; must keep trying. I remember a SA red called “Wolftrap” that smells like a tire fire and tastes even worse. Blecch.

  • Lindsay

    THANK YOU!!! It was a great birthday! I had sparkling malbec rose at dinner and some California Rhone-style deliciousness from Kunin on the Central Coast. All with oysters and ahi tuna and gazpacho at a South American restaurant — yum!

    Thank you so much for the shout-out. 🙂 (And thanks Kristen!!)

    QOTD: Hmm. I have had the South African Groote Post white blend and I wasn’t that impressed; must keep trying. I remember a SA red called “Wolftrap” that smells like a tire fire and tastes even worse. Blecch.

  • David Cole

    QOTD: Honestly, can’t remember having either.

    Good show! And I agree buy three bottles instead of one! Then share with friends and help them grow!

  • David Cole

    QOTD: Honestly, can’t remember having either.

    Good show! And I agree buy three bottles instead of one! Then share with friends and help them grow!

  • Tim

    QOTD: I really like the Golden Khan Pinotage from South Africa.

  • Tim

    QOTD: I really like the Golden Khan Pinotage from South Africa.

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