EP 461 California vs Washington State Syrah Showdown

Today in a head to head confrontation Gary Vaynerchuk pits 2 Syrahs against each other, one from Washington State and the other from California.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Rhapsody3 Syrah
2005 Gramercy Cellars Walla Walla Valley Syrah

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Joe Price

Whats this Gary V? I always have to remember to turn my volume down in my headphones during your entrance…was thinking, does he know the cameras on???

CKC vaaaaa tech!!!

Tags: california, Head to Head, red, review, Video, wine, wines

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  • ev

    QOD-had to have been a 90 pt Wine Spectator scored California wine.

  • ev

    QOD-had to have been a 90 pt Wine Spectator scored California wine.

  • bh

    hey gary, good show. made me think – how would these wines perform in different contexts? i mean you’re putting them head to head, which is interesting in and of itself, because maybe one’s fruitier and one’s more old world. but what if you were eating hamburgers on the porch…. which would be better then? or if you were eating a big steak with mushrooms?

    the answer to that isn’t really important. i guess what i’m getting at is that i’d like to see you discuss the importance of context and how that affects the impression a wine makes. all of this on my mind, as i thought asimov had a decent article on the subject in the nyt this week.

    anyways thanks again for the show. biggest $30 let down? probably the mr. riggs shiraz viognier. welcome to one-dimension city.

  • bh

    hey gary, good show. made me think – how would these wines perform in different contexts? i mean you’re putting them head to head, which is interesting in and of itself, because maybe one’s fruitier and one’s more old world. but what if you were eating hamburgers on the porch…. which would be better then? or if you were eating a big steak with mushrooms?

    the answer to that isn’t really important. i guess what i’m getting at is that i’d like to see you discuss the importance of context and how that affects the impression a wine makes. all of this on my mind, as i thought asimov had a decent article on the subject in the nyt this week.

    anyways thanks again for the show. biggest $30 let down? probably the mr. riggs shiraz viognier. welcome to one-dimension city.

  • It was the 2002 Andrew Murray Syrah Roasted Slope Vineyard. Like prune-infused lighter fluid. Although the fact that they delivered it via UPS in August, making 3 midday weekday visits to my residence before sticking it in the hot UPS warehouse probably didn’t help the condition of the wine.

    I popped the ’01 version of the same wine just last fall and it was outstanding.

  • It was the 2002 Andrew Murray Syrah Roasted Slope Vineyard. Like prune-infused lighter fluid. Although the fact that they delivered it via UPS in August, making 3 midday weekday visits to my residence before sticking it in the hot UPS warehouse probably didn’t help the condition of the wine.

    I popped the ’01 version of the same wine just last fall and it was outstanding.

  • LuvsChandon

    Quote of the day

    â?People are always talking about what youâ??re doing nowâ?¦ To me, itâ??s not what youâ??re doing now, itâ??s about where youâ??re going.â?
    – Gary Vaynerchuk

  • LuvsChandon

    Quote of the day

    â?People are always talking about what youâ??re doing nowâ?¦ To me, itâ??s not what youâ??re doing now, itâ??s about where youâ??re going.â?
    – Gary Vaynerchuk

  • Taylor

    Decent Show, on the the up note loved you on the Big Idea last night, made some great points!
    QOTD I havent too disappointed with any of my 30 dollar wine dont know if it was because i wanted them to taste good cause i spent that much money on them or if they were actually that good.

  • Taylor

    Decent Show, on the the up note loved you on the Big Idea last night, made some great points!
    QOTD I havent too disappointed with any of my 30 dollar wine dont know if it was because i wanted them to taste good cause i spent that much money on them or if they were actually that good.

  • aronowm2

    QOTD: 2005 Susana Balbo Malbec based on your recco.

  • glenn

    dude – Lag-ni-pay??? that word, Lagniappe, is Cajun and means “a little something extra, something for free” and is pronounced LAN-YAP.

    love you anyway but basically dislike Vic Bourassa’s wines. they are all kind of meh for me.

    you did a solid job on The Big Idea. nice work there.

  • aronowm2

    QOTD: 2005 Susana Balbo Malbec based on your recco.

  • glenn

    dude – Lag-ni-pay??? that word, Lagniappe, is Cajun and means “a little something extra, something for free” and is pronounced LAN-YAP.

    love you anyway but basically dislike Vic Bourassa’s wines. they are all kind of meh for me.

    you did a solid job on The Big Idea. nice work there.

  • Palmer

    QOTD: 2005 Hartford Court Pinot Noir Land’s Edge Vineyards. it was on WE’s top 100 of the year list and I thought it was a total dud.

  • Palmer

    QOTD: 2005 Hartford Court Pinot Noir Land’s Edge Vineyards. it was on WE’s top 100 of the year list and I thought it was a total dud.

  • jason

    i like these shows more. no bull shit, down and dirty…. syrah, 05, same price, 2 different places…. whatchya got. syrah, like pinot can be a good unit of measure. it is all over the world, what are you making?

    QOTD: that is a rough one. it might be from last year for new years. it was a 04, bruno claire, vosnee… 40 euros. it did not happen. 04 was tough for reds, but he is making good wine. it just fell short, too lean for me…. like really lean. sharp red crunchy fruit. oh well. will give his wines another chance

  • i like these shows more. no bull shit, down and dirty…. syrah, 05, same price, 2 different places…. whatchya got. syrah, like pinot can be a good unit of measure. it is all over the world, what are you making?

    QOTD: that is a rough one. it might be from last year for new years. it was a 04, bruno claire, vosnee… 40 euros. it did not happen. 04 was tough for reds, but he is making good wine. it just fell short, too lean for me…. like really lean. sharp red crunchy fruit. oh well. will give his wines another chance

  • thisIslandEarth

    Gary,

    Good show but I really want to mention how you “killed it” on the Big Idea.
    Nice job. Might I recommend that for your next book you write not just about wines but about how a Russian kid made the “American Dream”, your ideas about success, family and friends. THAT is the real story.
    God bless.

  • thisIslandEarth

    Gary,

    Good show but I really want to mention how you “killed it” on the Big Idea.
    Nice job. Might I recommend that for your next book you write not just about wines but about how a Russian kid made the “American Dream”, your ideas about success, family and friends. THAT is the real story.
    God bless.

  • SoCal

    QOTD: Soooo many from Cali it is hard to pick just one……

  • SoCal

    QOTD: Soooo many from Cali it is hard to pick just one……

  • Rick D

    Love the head to heads. Why do you only use a single glass when doing your tastings?

    QOTD: I agree with Palmer the 2005 Hartford Court Pinot Noir Landâ??s Edge Vineyards. Highly scored by both WS and WE, left me wanting more. A 30 bone wine needs to bring something special, like the thunder.

  • Rick D

    Love the head to heads. Why do you only use a single glass when doing your tastings?

    QOTD: I agree with Palmer the 2005 Hartford Court Pinot Noir Landâ??s Edge Vineyards. Highly scored by both WS and WE, left me wanting more. A 30 bone wine needs to bring something special, like the thunder.

  • TonyStro

    pardon SS Chris, puhleez!

    QOTD – Penley’s Estate Reserve Cab (02 or 03 I think), coming from Australia I was shocked at how thin it was.

  • TonyStro

    pardon SS Chris, puhleez!

    QOTD – Penley’s Estate Reserve Cab (02 or 03 I think), coming from Australia I was shocked at how thin it was.

  • damien

    all the 30 dollar bottles of wine i have been purchasing are from eric kent and they are in my wine fridge for later dates, hoping they won’t be disappointing!

  • damien

    all the 30 dollar bottles of wine i have been purchasing are from eric kent and they are in my wine fridge for later dates, hoping they won’t be disappointing!

  • sharon

    Who can remember? I don’t take notes.

  • QOTD: As a CKC, I don’t often have wine above the $20 mark. I think the biggest disappointment wine (near $30) was a $23 South African Shiraz that I had in a South African wine tasting. I had it right after a $10 bottle of Shiraz and there really were no discernible differences.

  • sharon

    Who can remember? I don’t take notes.

  • QOTD: As a CKC, I don’t often have wine above the $20 mark. I think the biggest disappointment wine (near $30) was a $23 South African Shiraz that I had in a South African wine tasting. I had it right after a $10 bottle of Shiraz and there really were no discernible differences.

  • good ep, GV.

  • good ep, GV.

  • 30 bucks is a tough pill to swallow if the wine is so-so..still plan to try the Washington State Reislings you showcased in early April!

    On another note, you were looking for the term “Triple Threat Match”!

    JPL

  • 30 bucks is a tough pill to swallow if the wine is so-so..still plan to try the Washington State Reislings you showcased in early April!

    On another note, you were looking for the term “Triple Threat Match”!

    JPL

  • Tom P

    QOTD – On a personal basis I have not bought a bottle for 30 bones that I was disappointed in. My limit right now is 25 and most I buy is below $15. Of course I put a couple bottles of Jordan and Caymus down that I would expect not to disappoint.

    I have paid more that 30 for wine in a resaurant that disappoint because it did not bring the thunder, but then that is 3x or more off of retail…

  • Tom P

    QOTD – On a personal basis I have not bought a bottle for 30 bones that I was disappointed in. My limit right now is 25 and most I buy is below $15. Of course I put a couple bottles of Jordan and Caymus down that I would expect not to disappoint.

    I have paid more that 30 for wine in a resaurant that disappoint because it did not bring the thunder, but then that is 3x or more off of retail…

  • James Marinello(bajayngo)

    Love the head to head format for usre!! and just so everyone knows…..WASHINGTON STILL WON!!!!!

    QOTD : not a ton which is really cool but one jumps out was the Mccrea soracco. But it might have been tainted so I don’t really count it!

  • James Marinello(bajayngo)

    Love the head to head format for usre!! and just so everyone knows…..WASHINGTON STILL WON!!!!!

    QOTD : not a ton which is really cool but one jumps out was the Mccrea soracco. But it might have been tainted so I don’t really count it!

  • laposte

    QOTD:
    Nearly every California cab or pinot noir I have purchased for $30. You can get the same profile for $10.

  • laposte

    QOTD:
    Nearly every California cab or pinot noir I have purchased for $30. You can get the same profile for $10.

  • Anonymous

    Most disappointing $30/wine? Why are we harping on the negative.
    I prefer to see the wine glass half-full!
    🙂
    Poor wines, but great show as always…
    Thanks Gary!!!

  • Most disappointing $30/wine? Why are we harping on the negative.
    I prefer to see the wine glass half-full!
    🙂
    Poor wines, but great show as always…
    Thanks Gary!!!

  • Ben Janssen South Australia

    About time the California Washington Syrah Showdown!
    Good show, got a few work mates to watch it.

    Keep up the good work!

  • Ben Janssen South Australia

    About time the California Washington Syrah Showdown!
    Good show, got a few work mates to watch it.

    Keep up the good work!

  • Robin C

    Hard to believe that a good syrah is so hard to find.
    QOTD: Usually, I forget about the disappointing wines as soon as the bottle hits the recycling bag. We did have a couple of disappointing $80.00 and $70.00 wines recently: a Sterling and a Cosentino. The Sterling was fine, but it just tasted so conventional to me. Maybe the Wine Library is broadening my palate.

  • Robin C

    Hard to believe that a good syrah is so hard to find.
    QOTD: Usually, I forget about the disappointing wines as soon as the bottle hits the recycling bag. We did have a couple of disappointing $80.00 and $70.00 wines recently: a Sterling and a Cosentino. The Sterling was fine, but it just tasted so conventional to me. Maybe the Wine Library is broadening my palate.

  • Antony

    A reserve pinot from Patagonia – Canale… Umberto or something similar. The merlot is a steal. The pinot…

  • Antony

    A reserve pinot from Patagonia – Canale… Umberto or something similar. The merlot is a steal. The pinot…

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