EP 475 An Australian Rose On This Laid Back Friday

Gary chilax’s this Friday with a Rose from down under and shares some thoughts and ideas

Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 S.c.pannell Grenache RoseAustralian Rose

Cheese mentioned in todays episode.

  • Gubbeen Neal’s Yard

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corkscrew

Not a big Rose fan, find most too thin, dry or sweet. Had a 2009 Caldwell Syrah Rose recently and it was fantastic. http://www.winelx.com

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  • Karol

    Always a little afraid of trying Rose – something about the Kool Aid resemblance but I think I’m going to have to give it a try.

  • Karol

    Always a little afraid of trying Rose – something about the Kool Aid resemblance but I think I’m going to have to give it a try.

  • Alright, I am coming out from lurkerville for this one, Gary.

    I have tried about 4 different rose wines (all but one at restaurants), and have been incredibly disappointed with their taste. So much so, that I am hesitant to try one ever again.

    Come on, even your nutty cheese beat out this wine.

    Shannon

  • Alright, I am coming out from lurkerville for this one, Gary.

    I have tried about 4 different rose wines (all but one at restaurants), and have been incredibly disappointed with their taste. So much so, that I am hesitant to try one ever again.

    Come on, even your nutty cheese beat out this wine.

    Shannon

  • Sep

    I do love a good rose, but it’s a category that hasn’t been explored very much.

  • Sep

    I do love a good rose, but it’s a category that hasn’t been explored very much.

  • Keith

    I’ve only tried one rose, the Montes Cherub Syrah from Chile. I thought it was betwixt and between, neither here nor there, just didn’t make sense to my palate. It reminded me a little of a sauv blanc of all things, and made me want to get a “real” sauv blanc.

  • Keith

    I’ve only tried one rose, the Montes Cherub Syrah from Chile. I thought it was betwixt and between, neither here nor there, just didn’t make sense to my palate. It reminded me a little of a sauv blanc of all things, and made me want to get a “real” sauv blanc.

  • Paulo

    QOTD: Like rose very much, mostly Tavel

  • Paulo

    QOTD: Like rose very much, mostly Tavel

  • Tommy Vernieri

    QOTD: Really, are people still down on pink wine? At first I was not a big fan of Rosé, the flavor profiles just tended to seem off to me. They were thin on the palate but had no control of the alcohol. Since first trying Rosés I’ve found more with the alcohol in check and I’ve gotten comfortable with their general structure. I feel like it’s definitely different than white or red. I’m glad Rosé is around, I wouldn’t want to drink it every day but it’s always good to mix things up and drink different styles of wine.

  • Tommy Vernieri

    QOTD: Really, are people still down on pink wine? At first I was not a big fan of Rosé, the flavor profiles just tended to seem off to me. They were thin on the palate but had no control of the alcohol. Since first trying Rosés I’ve found more with the alcohol in check and I’ve gotten comfortable with their general structure. I feel like it’s definitely different than white or red. I’m glad Rosé is around, I wouldn’t want to drink it every day but it’s always good to mix things up and drink different styles of wine.

  • Love rose and drink lots of it. S. rhone rose’s and spanish grenache rose’s are my favs. The local Cali rose scene is really taking off. I read an article that claimed domestic over $10 rose sales are up 50+% over last year. That is a huge jump. I am going to make a syrah rose this year and maybe a little dry zin rose. We’ll see. Deffinately a nice change up from the whites.
    I really enjoy the subtle strawberry/cherry nuances with some citrisy crispness and thirst quenching acidity. Yum.

  • Love rose and drink lots of it. S. rhone rose’s and spanish grenache rose’s are my favs. The local Cali rose scene is really taking off. I read an article that claimed domestic over $10 rose sales are up 50+% over last year. That is a huge jump. I am going to make a syrah rose this year and maybe a little dry zin rose. We’ll see. Deffinately a nice change up from the whites.
    I really enjoy the subtle strawberry/cherry nuances with some citrisy crispness and thirst quenching acidity. Yum.

  • I’ve had quite a few good rose wines. They are a beautiful pairing to summertime foods like grilled salmon, or just by themselves.

  • I’ve had quite a few good rose wines. They are a beautiful pairing to summertime foods like grilled salmon, or just by themselves.

  • Stevew

    Great Episode, I like to drink Rose’s in the summer time (assuming summer
    comes to Seattle this year). I look forward to meeting you at your book
    signing here in Seattle.
    My favorite Rose’s are usually Spanish Grenache Rose’s.
    I just purchased a case of a very good Washington State Rose, which
    is Barnard Griffin’s 2007 Rose of Sangiovese, this Rose won the sweepstakes Award/Best of Class from the 2008 San Francisco Chronicle Wine Competition.

  • Stevew

    Great Episode, I like to drink Rose’s in the summer time (assuming summer
    comes to Seattle this year). I look forward to meeting you at your book
    signing here in Seattle.
    My favorite Rose’s are usually Spanish Grenache Rose’s.
    I just purchased a case of a very good Washington State Rose, which
    is Barnard Griffin’s 2007 Rose of Sangiovese, this Rose won the sweepstakes Award/Best of Class from the 2008 San Francisco Chronicle Wine Competition.

  • BobM

    Gary, I’ve only had French rosés, but I’ve been happy with them and thought they were a good value, with delightful flavors that paired well with lighter fare. When I’m in a restaurant, I’ll always look at the rosés on the menus.

  • BobM

    Gary, I’ve only had French rosés, but I’ve been happy with them and thought they were a good value, with delightful flavors that paired well with lighter fare. When I’m in a restaurant, I’ll always look at the rosés on the menus.

  • QOTD: A good rose is a joy to drink. Fresh, crisp, refreshing, fruity – isn’t the point of a good wine something you enjoy? Those who think rose wines aren’t high class or tasteful ought to remember what Charlie Tuna’s friend said to him – Starkist doesn’t want tunas with taste, they want tunas that taste good!

  • QOTD: A good rose is a joy to drink. Fresh, crisp, refreshing, fruity – isn’t the point of a good wine something you enjoy? Those who think rose wines aren’t high class or tasteful ought to remember what Charlie Tuna’s friend said to him – Starkist doesn’t want tunas with taste, they want tunas that taste good!

  • joe

    thanks for the shout out to my wifey for her birthday tomorrow mott! i think you’re the real brains behind the wltv curtain! 🙂

  • joe

    thanks for the shout out to my wifey for her birthday tomorrow mott! i think you’re the real brains behind the wltv curtain! 🙂

  • WineSnoz

    Currently working my way through a case of Domaine du Gouyat (France)Cabernet Sauvignon Rose, I enjoy it on the deck with grilled chicken, pork chops, or ham steak. But, for me, Rose is a summer time wine only.

  • WineSnoz

    Currently working my way through a case of Domaine du Gouyat (France)Cabernet Sauvignon Rose, I enjoy it on the deck with grilled chicken, pork chops, or ham steak. But, for me, Rose is a summer time wine only.

  • Roses are like witches
    Some are good witches,
    Some are BAD witches…..
    (Like All wine)

    But, if you are caught with a witch in your company. Well you should expect to be persecuted by the masses regardless.

    Burn the witch!!!

    love the show.

  • Roses are like witches
    Some are good witches,
    Some are BAD witches…..
    (Like All wine)

    But, if you are caught with a witch in your company. Well you should expect to be persecuted by the masses regardless.

    Burn the witch!!!

    love the show.

  • Michael R.

    QOTD: Rose is for chicks. This is what has been hammered into my head. But, if I’ve learned anything at all from watching WLTV, it’s to throw convention into the wastebasket. For example, I LOVE drinking white wine, as much, if not more, than drinking red wine. I love fruit forward red wines as well. I’ve learned to love what I like, thanks to this show. So screw other people’s opinions. I try the stuff for myself, and I’m open to quality. I’m going to hit up the wineshop tomorrow morning, pick up some Rose and toast to new horizons.

    Cheers,

    Michael R.

  • Michael R.

    QOTD: Rose is for chicks. This is what has been hammered into my head. But, if I’ve learned anything at all from watching WLTV, it’s to throw convention into the wastebasket. For example, I LOVE drinking white wine, as much, if not more, than drinking red wine. I love fruit forward red wines as well. I’ve learned to love what I like, thanks to this show. So screw other people’s opinions. I try the stuff for myself, and I’m open to quality. I’m going to hit up the wineshop tomorrow morning, pick up some Rose and toast to new horizons.

    Cheers,

    Michael R.

  • Roberto

    a lot of good rose´s around, they are always great with seafood, sometimes even better than good whites…

    see ya soon 🙂

  • Roberto

    a lot of good rose´s around, they are always great with seafood, sometimes even better than good whites…

    see ya soon 🙂

  • ChrisV

    QOTD: Rose is OK but it’s tough to figure out what its role is. If I am drinking wine for its own sake then I am more likely to want to drink something more complex like a red wine or chardonnay. If I’m drinking wine with food, then rose is a tough pairing. I mean what does it go with? Obviously not red meat or rich dishes. Fish? Not really, I’d rather have a white. Chicken? Ditto. I suppose it pairs with stuff like prosciutto but I feel like most times anything a rose can do in terms of matching with food, a white wine can do better, because a rose isnt usually a good palate cleanser. Finally, if I’m drinking for refreshment, which is when a lot of people say they drink rose, I’m more likely to choose beer. So while I’ll happily drink it if it’s put in front of me, there’s never a time when I think “Man I could really go a rose right now”.

    The above is all regarding dry Australian roses. I haven’t tried roses from Languedoc or Provence because it’s hard to get them. Australia is a small country and most people know nothing at all about non-Australian wine, so French wines are a niche market, doubly so for obscure regions like Languedoc, and triply so for obscure styles like roses. In the unlikely event that someone does decide to import wines like these, they roll in at huge price points because the importer needs a big margin on small quantities and because of Australia’s insane 50% “Wine Equalisation Tax”. But mostly you just can’t find wines like this. I’m really keen to try some Loire Cabernet Francs for instance, but they can’t be had in this country for love nor money.

    I’m from South Australia, where most of the good Australian roses come from. Names worth trying are Charles Melton, Turkey Flat, Woodstock, and Arrivo’s “Rosato di Nebbiolo”, a very intriguing Adelaide Hills nebbiolo rose. Definitely pick that up if you get a chance as it’s a very different, very good wine.

  • ChrisV

    QOTD: Rose is OK but it’s tough to figure out what its role is. If I am drinking wine for its own sake then I am more likely to want to drink something more complex like a red wine or chardonnay. If I’m drinking wine with food, then rose is a tough pairing. I mean what does it go with? Obviously not red meat or rich dishes. Fish? Not really, I’d rather have a white. Chicken? Ditto. I suppose it pairs with stuff like prosciutto but I feel like most times anything a rose can do in terms of matching with food, a white wine can do better, because a rose isnt usually a good palate cleanser. Finally, if I’m drinking for refreshment, which is when a lot of people say they drink rose, I’m more likely to choose beer. So while I’ll happily drink it if it’s put in front of me, there’s never a time when I think “Man I could really go a rose right now”.

    The above is all regarding dry Australian roses. I haven’t tried roses from Languedoc or Provence because it’s hard to get them. Australia is a small country and most people know nothing at all about non-Australian wine, so French wines are a niche market, doubly so for obscure regions like Languedoc, and triply so for obscure styles like roses. In the unlikely event that someone does decide to import wines like these, they roll in at huge price points because the importer needs a big margin on small quantities and because of Australia’s insane 50% “Wine Equalisation Tax”. But mostly you just can’t find wines like this. I’m really keen to try some Loire Cabernet Francs for instance, but they can’t be had in this country for love nor money.

    I’m from South Australia, where most of the good Australian roses come from. Names worth trying are Charles Melton, Turkey Flat, Woodstock, and Arrivo’s “Rosato di Nebbiolo”, a very intriguing Adelaide Hills nebbiolo rose. Definitely pick that up if you get a chance as it’s a very different, very good wine.

  • Chris in Tulsa

    QOTD: I have become a big Rose fan. It’s a easy every day drinking wine that seems to always have a nice nose. It isn’t a complex kinda wine that brings the thunder like I’m always looking for but sometimes I just want a nice “drinking” wine.

  • Chris in Tulsa

    QOTD: I have become a big Rose fan. It’s a easy every day drinking wine that seems to always have a nice nose. It isn’t a complex kinda wine that brings the thunder like I’m always looking for but sometimes I just want a nice “drinking” wine.

  • Albert

    Between Gary and one article in the NYTimes about rose, I took the plunge and bought an AWESOME Tavel Rose from Vidal Fleury. I managed a steal of an 05 vintage and have been seeking another bottle out at the same price of 19 bucks. No luck at ALL! I think it’s definitely become trendy all of a sudden to drink Tavel rose. I saw a few shops in Midtown selling that same bottle for an insane 65 bucks! My girlfriend and I had shared this incredible bottle for Valentine’s this year and she said it tasted like summer in France. Amazing the fruit spoke, it was incredibly full-bodied. Heavier than some of the lighter reds I’ve had and it smelled like strawberry blossom fields where the breeze from the ocean blew across. It was very crisp and razor sharp.

  • Albert

    Between Gary and one article in the NYTimes about rose, I took the plunge and bought an AWESOME Tavel Rose from Vidal Fleury. I managed a steal of an 05 vintage and have been seeking another bottle out at the same price of 19 bucks. No luck at ALL! I think it’s definitely become trendy all of a sudden to drink Tavel rose. I saw a few shops in Midtown selling that same bottle for an insane 65 bucks! My girlfriend and I had shared this incredible bottle for Valentine’s this year and she said it tasted like summer in France. Amazing the fruit spoke, it was incredibly full-bodied. Heavier than some of the lighter reds I’ve had and it smelled like strawberry blossom fields where the breeze from the ocean blew across. It was very crisp and razor sharp.

  • 248-N8

    QOTD: Never tried it because I’ve always felt they were just not really considered real wines for some reason. Although I will admit I am realizing every week it seems like how much I don’t know about the wine world, and how much there is to learn. But with rose wines I just never wanted to try it, but now thanks to the Thunder Show I will be buying my first bottle of Rose tomorrow! I hope my friends don’t laugh when they see me drinking it…

  • 248-N8

    QOTD: Never tried it because I’ve always felt they were just not really considered real wines for some reason. Although I will admit I am realizing every week it seems like how much I don’t know about the wine world, and how much there is to learn. But with rose wines I just never wanted to try it, but now thanks to the Thunder Show I will be buying my first bottle of Rose tomorrow! I hope my friends don’t laugh when they see me drinking it…

  • ray-ray

    Nice Laid back Friday GV…

    QOTD: Love Rose, so versatile in potential food pairings and just a great all-round patio wine for summer. Favorite combo has to be Rose with a plate of Charcuterie and Cheese.
    Current Rose: Joie 2007

  • ray-ray

    Nice Laid back Friday GV…

    QOTD: Love Rose, so versatile in potential food pairings and just a great all-round patio wine for summer. Favorite combo has to be Rose with a plate of Charcuterie and Cheese.
    Current Rose: Joie 2007

  • Achilleas in Cyprus

    Hate the pink stuff … or rather I did until I tried one from Tsangrides Winery in Lemona, Paphos. It changed my whole outlook on rose wines.

  • Achilleas in Cyprus

    Hate the pink stuff … or rather I did until I tried one from Tsangrides Winery in Lemona, Paphos. It changed my whole outlook on rose wines.

  • I love Rose wines as long as they are dry. I don’t want the sweet stuff.

    Jim

  • I love Rose wines as long as they are dry. I don’t want the sweet stuff.

    Jim

  • hi Gary thank you for your focus on rosé wines because here in the Languedoc there’s a huge tradition of rosé wines made traditionally with grenache and cinsault but those varietals are becoming more and more rare but i’m a bit surprised with the color of this aussy rosé seems like a cab franc rosé was it a free run juice rosé ? but those blends gre cinsault pair very well with spicy cuisine have a good we to all of you from south of france

  • hi Gary thank you for your focus on rosé wines because here in the Languedoc there’s a huge tradition of rosé wines made traditionally with grenache and cinsault but those varietals are becoming more and more rare but i’m a bit surprised with the color of this aussy rosé seems like a cab franc rosé was it a free run juice rosé ? but those blends gre cinsault pair very well with spicy cuisine have a good we to all of you from south of france

  • Clinton

    Joie, from Naramata, BC, makes a lovely Pinot Noir (with a bit of Gamay) rose. The price point is $27 CAD, but I don’t believe much makes it out of Canada, so you can’t compare in US$. I can make sure you get a bottle when you meet with my friends at Reachd while visiting Seattle.

  • Clinton

    Joie, from Naramata, BC, makes a lovely Pinot Noir (with a bit of Gamay) rose. The price point is $27 CAD, but I don’t believe much makes it out of Canada, so you can’t compare in US$. I can make sure you get a bottle when you meet with my friends at Reachd while visiting Seattle.

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