EP 475 An Australian Rose On This Laid Back Friday

Gary chilax’s this Friday with a Rose from down under and shares some thoughts and ideas

Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 S.c.pannell Grenache RoseAustralian Rose

Cheese mentioned in todays episode.

  • Gubbeen Neal’s Yard

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Not a big Rose fan, find most too thin, dry or sweet. Had a 2009 Caldwell Syrah Rose recently and it was fantastic. http://www.winelx.com

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  • Rodrigo

    Never really tried a decent rose, and my memories are linked to the boxed kind I had during my college days. Will give it a try this summer.

  • Rodrigo

    Never really tried a decent rose, and my memories are linked to the boxed kind I had during my college days. Will give it a try this summer.

  • David Troyer

    I don’t know man, I’ve had a Rosé from Bandol (Monastrell) and one from Williamette Valley (Pinot Noir) that were two of the best wines I’ve ever had as far as taste to emotions they evoke (which is most of what wine is all about). I wish people would get over the color (pinkish) just like they need to get over screw caps.

  • David Troyer

    I don’t know man, I’ve had a Rosé from Bandol (Monastrell) and one from Williamette Valley (Pinot Noir) that were two of the best wines I’ve ever had as far as taste to emotions they evoke (which is most of what wine is all about). I wish people would get over the color (pinkish) just like they need to get over screw caps.

  • Ate the *exact* same cheese (Gubbeen Neal’s Yard) while watching the show!
    QOTD: I like rose a lot and have enjoyed it for years. I drink it year round but heavier in spring/summer. Agree with the comment below that Joie Rose is very good. British Columbia in general makes some good roses. Another current release I’ve been enjoying a lot is the 2007 Quail’s Gate Rose.

  • Ate the *exact* same cheese (Gubbeen Neal’s Yard) while watching the show!
    QOTD: I like rose a lot and have enjoyed it for years. I drink it year round but heavier in spring/summer. Agree with the comment below that Joie Rose is very good. British Columbia in general makes some good roses. Another current release I’ve been enjoying a lot is the 2007 Quail’s Gate Rose.

  • Alex

    im down with the pink

  • Alex

    im down with the pink

  • J Crazy

    LOVE love love (times 10) Rose. Abso-f’in-lutely.

    I’ve had many many excellent roses from all over (really just within the last 12-18 months or so) that have open mine eyes to the wonder that is pink.
    Love Marylin Remark’s (it’s like a %16 rose), Venus from the south of France, Chateau Julien’s Sangiovese Rosato and a whole friggin’ crap load of other roses that are just fantastic.

  • J Crazy

    LOVE love love (times 10) Rose. Abso-f’in-lutely.

    I’ve had many many excellent roses from all over (really just within the last 12-18 months or so) that have open mine eyes to the wonder that is pink.
    Love Marylin Remark’s (it’s like a %16 rose), Venus from the south of France, Chateau Julien’s Sangiovese Rosato and a whole friggin’ crap load of other roses that are just fantastic.

  • Tried several Rose (about 15-18 from Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Australia) in the last 2 month and only 2 of them I liked. One was from Charles Melton out of Australia and the other was from Dr. Heger out of the Baden Region in Germany. Nearly the rest was flabby, had no balance or was just thin crap.

  • Tried several Rose (about 15-18 from Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Australia) in the last 2 month and only 2 of them I liked. One was from Charles Melton out of Australia and the other was from Dr. Heger out of the Baden Region in Germany. Nearly the rest was flabby, had no balance or was just thin crap.

  • Thin show today, but at the end of a taping marathon, who could blame? What happened to answering viewer questions on Friday?

    I have some interesting Roses in my cellar, including Kapcsandy, Domaines Ott, and Cameron Hughes did a good one. I tried a Muga recently, and some others. I tend to enjoy the first couple sips, but then Rose gets annoying for me. It’s either watermelon candy or strawberries, and then I don’t get much more out of it. I keep going back, and I keep being vaguely disappointed. (Not very, but somewhat.) Is there real complexity out there in Rose-land?

  • Thin show today, but at the end of a taping marathon, who could blame? What happened to answering viewer questions on Friday?

    I have some interesting Roses in my cellar, including Kapcsandy, Domaines Ott, and Cameron Hughes did a good one. I tried a Muga recently, and some others. I tend to enjoy the first couple sips, but then Rose gets annoying for me. It’s either watermelon candy or strawberries, and then I don’t get much more out of it. I keep going back, and I keep being vaguely disappointed. (Not very, but somewhat.) Is there real complexity out there in Rose-land?

  • NB_SPAZZ

    QOTD: Generic, mass-produced Roses were probably the first wines I drank (a favorite of the girls back in college in the 80s, and why argue with them?) But I drifted away from them for many years (the roses… not the females), in part because of prevailing opinion (not trusting my pal) and in part because I found other, especially red wines, more interesting (trusting my pal). That Beringer white zin became a fave of the older generation of women in my family didn’t help lure me back to pink wines. But, adopting the WLTV mindset, I’ve now got a few non-generic, hopefully more interesting pink wines in the cellar – waiting for a summertime family gathering when I’ll offer them to the matrons and check out the roses for myself. But I’m not popping them for myself… yet.

  • NB_SPAZZ

    QOTD: Generic, mass-produced Roses were probably the first wines I drank (a favorite of the girls back in college in the 80s, and why argue with them?) But I drifted away from them for many years (the roses… not the females), in part because of prevailing opinion (not trusting my pal) and in part because I found other, especially red wines, more interesting (trusting my pal). That Beringer white zin became a fave of the older generation of women in my family didn’t help lure me back to pink wines. But, adopting the WLTV mindset, I’ve now got a few non-generic, hopefully more interesting pink wines in the cellar – waiting for a summertime family gathering when I’ll offer them to the matrons and check out the roses for myself. But I’m not popping them for myself… yet.

  • paul

    My favorite comes from Bandol, but I also have a variety from all over the world. Not a lot of bottles, but a decent selection. Brought a few home from a recent trip to CA, as well.

  • paul

    My favorite comes from Bandol, but I also have a variety from all over the world. Not a lot of bottles, but a decent selection. Brought a few home from a recent trip to CA, as well.

  • BobbyTiger

    Haven’t done the rose thing since I was in my 30ies, (& that was a long, long…..time ago). Primarily, it’s a visual thing. It looks as weak as it usually tastes. Sorry……………………

  • BobbyTiger

    Haven’t done the rose thing since I was in my 30ies, (& that was a long, long…..time ago). Primarily, it’s a visual thing. It looks as weak as it usually tastes. Sorry……………………

  • Andy

    QOTD—- G Rose is definitely underated ,,, There are good dry ones and there are some good sweet ones. I like trying them from all over the world . France and the Aussies have some great ones. The USA is trying to get away from the White Zin craze…. People like the sweet crap.

  • Kathy Hughes

    Gary, I’m old and when you say rose’ I think Lancers and Mateus ! However, at a tour at Domain Chandon last June, I had the pleasure of tasting their rose’ sparkling wine. It was delicious and now I’m a complete fan. So, I’ve learned your lesson and I’m keeping an open mind and enjoying a variety of vintages. All the best, Naples Kathy aka Champagne Lady

  • Andy

    QOTD—- G Rose is definitely underated ,,, There are good dry ones and there are some good sweet ones. I like trying them from all over the world . France and the Aussies have some great ones. The USA is trying to get away from the White Zin craze…. People like the sweet crap.

  • Gary, I’m old and when you say rose’ I think Lancers and Mateus ! However, at a tour at Domain Chandon last June, I had the pleasure of tasting their rose’ sparkling wine. It was delicious and now I’m a complete fan. So, I’ve learned your lesson and I’m keeping an open mind and enjoying a variety of vintages. All the best, Naples Kathy aka Champagne Lady

  • Mike Z in SD

    My Rose Thesis

    Some roses are crap.
    Some roses are cheap.
    Some roses are worth the search. Those would be the ones typically from the south of France, where character is built into them and it’s not just an accelerated version of a red wine, or an ‘afterthought’ in the producer’s portfolio. Roses don’t get enough respect, even when they’re good. Why? Not sure. I think the White Zin stigma keeps ’em down. It might also be because they are not good at evolving with age… an attribute to which many ascribe prestige.

  • Mike Z in SD

    My Rose Thesis

    Some roses are crap.
    Some roses are cheap.
    Some roses are worth the search. Those would be the ones typically from the south of France, where character is built into them and it’s not just an accelerated version of a red wine, or an ‘afterthought’ in the producer’s portfolio. Roses don’t get enough respect, even when they’re good. Why? Not sure. I think the White Zin stigma keeps ’em down. It might also be because they are not good at evolving with age… an attribute to which many ascribe prestige.

  • jeff lantz

    recently have discovered roses. have tried some new state of washington roses. columbia winery makes a sangio rose which is dry, fruity and crisp. great with halibut, salmon, oysters and dungeness crab. have not tried a grenache rose but will do so immediately.

  • jeff lantz

    recently have discovered roses. have tried some new state of washington roses. columbia winery makes a sangio rose which is dry, fruity and crisp. great with halibut, salmon, oysters and dungeness crab. have not tried a grenache rose but will do so immediately.

  • Jim

    Gary, I love rose and drink varieties from all over. I hardly ever drink them during cold weather but once the temps start to rise rose starts to take over my sense of what to drink. I like rose from nebbiolo, pinot noir and a nice syrah carignan blend from Navarro as well as the French gsm blends. A few years ago you turned me on to a rosato made from ciliegiolo from Liguria. It spoiled me and I have been searching in vain for more since then.

  • Jim

    Gary, I love rose and drink varieties from all over. I hardly ever drink them during cold weather but once the temps start to rise rose starts to take over my sense of what to drink. I like rose from nebbiolo, pinot noir and a nice syrah carignan blend from Navarro as well as the French gsm blends. A few years ago you turned me on to a rosato made from ciliegiolo from Liguria. It spoiled me and I have been searching in vain for more since then.

  • hasbeen

    I happen to run across an interview on NPR.org that I haven’t seen noted on WLTV.

    http://www.npr.org/programs/wesat/features/2008/may/wineflash/winetaste.html

  • hasbeen

    I happen to run across an interview on NPR.org that I haven’t seen noted on WLTV.

    http://www.npr.org/programs/wesat/features/2008/may/wineflash/winetaste.html

  • Bill FLEMING

    Rose’s have been my favorite summer wine for the last 15 years. Since I moved from NJ to Fl, I now drink it year round, I have introduced it to many friend here and they all thank me for the pleasure it has given them. The only issue I have is that now that it is so popular, the price has taken off. I remember when you could not find a bottle over $10.

  • Bill FLEMING

    Rose’s have been my favorite summer wine for the last 15 years. Since I moved from NJ to Fl, I now drink it year round, I have introduced it to many friend here and they all thank me for the pleasure it has given them. The only issue I have is that now that it is so popular, the price has taken off. I remember when you could not find a bottle over $10.

  • Kelly

    I think Rose was my “entry level” into drinking wine, and then I picked up a lot of negative ideas from people who dissed it as being inferior. They were probably right because what I was drinking was cheap and sweet. So I moved on to the whites (chardonnay) and reds (merlot, cabernet, pinot) and there’s so much in those varieties to get into that I’ve still neglected the roses. BUT, now that I’ve seen you feature a good number of roses on the show, I’m curious about revisiting them.

  • Kelly

    I think Rose was my “entry level” into drinking wine, and then I picked up a lot of negative ideas from people who dissed it as being inferior. They were probably right because what I was drinking was cheap and sweet. So I moved on to the whites (chardonnay) and reds (merlot, cabernet, pinot) and there’s so much in those varieties to get into that I’ve still neglected the roses. BUT, now that I’ve seen you feature a good number of roses on the show, I’m curious about revisiting them.

  • Jon

    I haven’t had a Rose that I can remember. I have been on the hunt to figure out wine pairings with cheese. My brother runs a creamery out of Middletown Maryland and is starting to sell via the web. I told him that it would be a good idea to offer suggestions such as wine pairings, and what better way to offer suggestions than to take all the different cheeses they make and start sampling!

    I will surely place the rose in the selection of wines to try.

  • Jon

    I haven’t had a Rose that I can remember. I have been on the hunt to figure out wine pairings with cheese. My brother runs a creamery out of Middletown Maryland and is starting to sell via the web. I told him that it would be a good idea to offer suggestions such as wine pairings, and what better way to offer suggestions than to take all the different cheeses they make and start sampling!

    I will surely place the rose in the selection of wines to try.

  • The first rose I had was from the secret pack awhile back. I really enjoyed it and have since ordered more. It really is very refreshing!

  • The first rose I had was from the secret pack awhile back. I really enjoyed it and have since ordered more. It really is very refreshing!

  • TerryFunk

    Gary V, I’m back, had a little hiatus for a while, my apologies. But, what a classic week to come back too. You showed how much of a class act you really are with Mr. Mondavi, your first spill, I like the slow-mo that was hilarious, a couple one-liners that were pretty comical, and I like that you’re sitting back and relaxing just chatting with us, thats pretty cool. As far as Rose goes, there’s something about it that brings me back to it every once in awhile. My friends aren’t big fans nor am I, and the ones I have had weren’t anything that changed my life, but something draws me back to them, I guess my curiosity gets the best of me. Keep up the good work.

  • TerryFunk

    Gary V, I’m back, had a little hiatus for a while, my apologies. But, what a classic week to come back too. You showed how much of a class act you really are with Mr. Mondavi, your first spill, I like the slow-mo that was hilarious, a couple one-liners that were pretty comical, and I like that you’re sitting back and relaxing just chatting with us, thats pretty cool. As far as Rose goes, there’s something about it that brings me back to it every once in awhile. My friends aren’t big fans nor am I, and the ones I have had weren’t anything that changed my life, but something draws me back to them, I guess my curiosity gets the best of me. Keep up the good work.

  • KyBoy

    I’m all about the roses…sign me up for days. When it’s a nice spring/summer day outside, I think rose. Gary reviewed a Chateau St. Michelle Rose last year that I found down in Florida that was awesome. I still have friends (male friends) that won’t drink it b/c it’s pink. While they shy away from pink, I embrace it!

  • KyBoy

    I’m all about the roses…sign me up for days. When it’s a nice spring/summer day outside, I think rose. Gary reviewed a Chateau St. Michelle Rose last year that I found down in Florida that was awesome. I still have friends (male friends) that won’t drink it b/c it’s pink. While they shy away from pink, I embrace it!

  • I will admit I’ve never tried rose (or at least I don’t remember ever trying)–however, since the summer time screams of lighter, crisp wines to me, I’m leaning toward trying–and I LOVE steamers, so thanks for the pairing suggestion!!

  • I will admit I’ve never tried rose (or at least I don’t remember ever trying)–however, since the summer time screams of lighter, crisp wines to me, I’m leaning toward trying–and I LOVE steamers, so thanks for the pairing suggestion!!

  • QOTD: Haven’t really had many (if any) roses. But, because of your admonishments to not be afraid of the pink wine, we’ve currently got two in the wine chiller waiting for some summer fun.

  • QOTD: Haven’t really had many (if any) roses. But, because of your admonishments to not be afraid of the pink wine, we’ve currently got two in the wine chiller waiting for some summer fun.

  • Jason S.

    QOTD: Honestly, I don’t drink much white wine to begin with, so I hardly ever turn to a rose. Maybe I should a little more.

    GV – For those of us that already got the book – find another way to hook us up on the 4th gen. wristband man. Don’t leave us hanging!

  • Jason S.

    QOTD: Honestly, I don’t drink much white wine to begin with, so I hardly ever turn to a rose. Maybe I should a little more.

    GV – For those of us that already got the book – find another way to hook us up on the 4th gen. wristband man. Don’t leave us hanging!

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