EP 507 Grange And Sassicaia 24 Hours Of Decanting Later

Gary explores whether the wines from yesterday’s episode have changed after 24 hours of decanting!

Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 SassicaiaTOSCANA IGT
2003 Penfolds GrangeAustralian Shiraz/Syrah

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  • gracem

    QOTD: I have to say that if there was a wine that I didn’t like, I have not displayed the patience to let it sit for 24 hrs and try it again. However, I do currently have a bottle of wine that I had tried and HATED it, but will decant it for 24hrs to see if it smooths its extremely razor sharp edges.

  • Kevin K

    QOTD: One of the Pinots from a secret pack. It was good on day one, perfect on day two.

  • gracem

    QOTD: I have to say that if there was a wine that I didn’t like, I have not displayed the patience to let it sit for 24 hrs and try it again. However, I do currently have a bottle of wine that I had tried and HATED it, but will decant it for 24hrs to see if it smooths its extremely razor sharp edges.

  • JamesUK

    Interesting show Gary, nice one.

    Wine doesn’t often last a day in our house, but I have to say I like the way young Ripassos soften up after a day’s opening. You tend not to lose the bright cherry, but it will feel more rounded.

  • SteveW

    I think people can stop with AJ’s Birthday, we got it already!
    Good idea to try these big and young wines the next day.

  • JamesUK

    Interesting show Gary, nice one.

    Wine doesn’t often last a day in our house, but I have to say I like the way young Ripassos soften up after a day’s opening. You tend not to lose the bright cherry, but it will feel more rounded.

  • SteveW

    I think people can stop with AJ’s Birthday, we got it already!
    Good idea to try these big and young wines the next day.

  • Rowland

    “Heeeeeeeeeeey you guuuuys!”

    violets or lavender, lavender or violets? Gary you need to come to my garden, and get it straight. i got it all, 2 varieties of black raspberries, 3 of red raspberries, cherries, pears, plums, mulberries, aaaaand violets and lavender among other things. Heck you need to start your own garden, maybe even a wine library garden! yeaaaa a wine library pallet training garden, you could pretty much grow everything you talk about except big league chew! DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT!

    yo i hope Mott really is ballin, other wise your subtly bashing him every episode.

    man i wish i still had my old toys, maaaad He Man, Thunder Cats, Ninja Turtles … sigh, i did find an old scratch and sniff book at a yard sale, only one sticker smelled though.

    the wine may have improved after 24hrs of decanting, but those lables are still lame. and Yo for real? i thinks thats way too much $cratch to be paying for a bottle of wine from a country founded by British penal colonists! I dont care if they shipped in french soil and water, got the best clones and kidnapped the best french growers and winemakers, ITS STILL AUSTRALIA (mate). $60 should be their limit. Period (.)

  • Rowland

    “Heeeeeeeeeeey you guuuuys!”

    violets or lavender, lavender or violets? Gary you need to come to my garden, and get it straight. i got it all, 2 varieties of black raspberries, 3 of red raspberries, cherries, pears, plums, mulberries, aaaaand violets and lavender among other things. Heck you need to start your own garden, maybe even a wine library garden! yeaaaa a wine library pallet training garden, you could pretty much grow everything you talk about except big league chew! DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT!

    yo i hope Mott really is ballin, other wise your subtly bashing him every episode.

    man i wish i still had my old toys, maaaad He Man, Thunder Cats, Ninja Turtles … sigh, i did find an old scratch and sniff book at a yard sale, only one sticker smelled though.

    the wine may have improved after 24hrs of decanting, but those lables are still lame. and Yo for real? i thinks thats way too much $cratch to be paying for a bottle of wine from a country founded by British penal colonists! I dont care if they shipped in french soil and water, got the best clones and kidnapped the best french growers and winemakers, ITS STILL AUSTRALIA (mate). $60 should be their limit. Period (.)

  • Charming show. (I have the old wrist band, or should I say, the Gen.1 wristband!)

  • Charming show. (I have the old wrist band, or should I say, the Gen.1 wristband!)

  • BobbyTiger

    1…………..July 23, 1987. 2………………There is absolutely, positively, NO WAY I’m going to split with $200 bucks for a bottle of vino. What’s that? $10.00 a sip? I can buy a relatively good bottle of Melbec for that. QOTD. House rules. If it’s opened……….you drink it all.

  • hermitaged

    QOTD – I don’t know if anybody knows this wine or even if it is still made, but I had the Thunder Mountain “Star Ruby” Meritage 2001 from the Livermore area (crazy, I know) and it took a day to really come together. Strange wines.

  • BobbyTiger

    1…………..July 23, 1987. 2………………There is absolutely, positively, NO WAY I’m going to split with $200 bucks for a bottle of vino. What’s that? $10.00 a sip? I can buy a relatively good bottle of Melbec for that. QOTD. House rules. If it’s opened……….you drink it all.

  • hermitaged

    QOTD – I don’t know if anybody knows this wine or even if it is still made, but I had the Thunder Mountain “Star Ruby” Meritage 2001 from the Livermore area (crazy, I know) and it took a day to really come together. Strange wines.

  • manonthemoon

    Great show, still on that roll. Awesome call out on the stinkor, classic 80’s childhood moment.

    QOTD: The biggest change from one day to later was 2005 Bodegas Arrocal Ribera del Duero, severly disappointed in it the first day and then went back 2 days later and it was rocking.

  • manonthemoon

    Great show, still on that roll. Awesome call out on the stinkor, classic 80’s childhood moment.

    QOTD: The biggest change from one day to later was 2005 Bodegas Arrocal Ribera del Duero, severly disappointed in it the first day and then went back 2 days later and it was rocking.

  • BrianKC

    QOTD: Castello D’albola Chianti Classico

    Tasted like straight weak ass after uncorking. Decanted, let it sit overnight, the next day was 100% better. Firmed up, mid-palette seemed to fill in, fruit became more pronounced and tannic bitterness was softened quite a bit.

  • BrianKC

    QOTD: Castello D’albola Chianti Classico

    Tasted like straight weak ass after uncorking. Decanted, let it sit overnight, the next day was 100% better. Firmed up, mid-palette seemed to fill in, fruit became more pronounced and tannic bitterness was softened quite a bit.

  • wine-ot

    pound for pound GV today and yesterday were your best show in a long time…like old times. tihink you’rejust settling into your new famos life, i like it! had to comment before i heard the QOD…sorry no skunkor for me left it all behind years ago…ebrase your inner child 😉

  • wine-ot

    pound for pound GV today and yesterday were your best show in a long time…like old times. tihink you’rejust settling into your new famos life, i like it! had to comment before i heard the QOD…sorry no skunkor for me left it all behind years ago…ebrase your inner child 😉

  • IA SHERMAN

    Great show Gary but not sure why you want the Vayniacs to watch an episode (69) that was one minute long with no information. Did you ever complete that episode?

  • IA SHERMAN

    Great show Gary but not sure why you want the Vayniacs to watch an episode (69) that was one minute long with no information. Did you ever complete that episode?

  • I almost didn’t even watch this one because I thought it was the same episode as yesterday. Good thought on this one.

    QOTD: The best turnaround a wine made was actually one made by a freind of mine at her house. When I popped it in front of her, it was awful. It was sitting on my counter. The next day, it was decent.

  • Jay

    I almost didn’t even watch this one because I thought it was the same episode as yesterday. Good thought on this one.

    QOTD: The best turnaround a wine made was actually one made by a freind of mine at her house. When I popped it in front of her, it was awful. It was sitting on my counter. The next day, it was decent.

  • ev

    Is this your B.A. glass?: http://www.cheftools.com/prodinfo.asp?number=03-0096%20%20%2004

    About your views on the Grange, I have 27 bottles from 1998-2002. I have only had the 2002 and must say, while I can’t stand overoaked wines relative to fruit, the 2002 did NOT seem out of balance with oak. You might want to mention that better vintages might hide the oak more, just my thoughts. Also, you should try these 2 wines again the next 2+ days or until they’re dead for informative fun.

  • ev

    Is this your B.A. glass?: http://www.cheftools.com/prodinfo.asp?number=03-0096%20%20%2004

    About your views on the Grange, I have 27 bottles from 1998-2002. I have only had the 2002 and must say, while I can’t stand overoaked wines relative to fruit, the 2002 did NOT seem out of balance with oak. You might want to mention that better vintages might hide the oak more, just my thoughts. Also, you should try these 2 wines again the next 2+ days or until they’re dead for informative fun.

  • Blake W

    QOTD: The Coppola 2004 Pinot Noir Diamond changed quite a bit….for the better? Not really, seemed to change flavors but lose the pop it had after the initial few hours of decanting that it seemed to have.

  • Blake W

    QOTD: The Coppola 2004 Pinot Noir Diamond changed quite a bit….for the better? Not really, seemed to change flavors but lose the pop it had after the initial few hours of decanting that it seemed to have.

  • Montana Sage

    Biggest positive change in 24 hours:

    Eberle, “Côtes du Robles” 2006; Syrah, Mourverdre, Grenache, Voignier, $20

    After about 30 minutes of breathing, this had a nose similar to a really nice New World Pinot Noir. I found the taste to be quite dry and elegant with good tannin structure, but I felt that it needed another year or two. Still, there was very nice fruit even though it was definitely tight.

    The next day, this wine transformed into a deep, lush, smooth talking powerhouse, and among the dozen various bottles of good stuff on the table, this was everyone’s favorite.

  • Love it, love it! Great show. I’m ecstatic you still hated the Grange. No wine will change that much, well, maybe.

    QOTD: On the plus side, let the ’05 Haywood Zin Los Chamizal sit overnight and it becomes not just a good bottle of wine but an amazing one. Wow.

    On the negative side, ANY Champagne, degrades abruptly no matter what system you use to try and preserve it for next day consumption. I drink the entire bottle that day else chuck it.

    Cheers!

    P.S. I have the #1 bid on “Stinkor” brand new in the package so I’ll ship it to you soon. Also, have you ever seen the Iron Sheik live back in the day? Just curious. I have. Front row at the Cap Centre. 🙂

  • Montana Sage

    Biggest positive change in 24 hours:

    Eberle, “Côtes du Robles” 2006; Syrah, Mourverdre, Grenache, Voignier, $20

    After about 30 minutes of breathing, this had a nose similar to a really nice New World Pinot Noir. I found the taste to be quite dry and elegant with good tannin structure, but I felt that it needed another year or two. Still, there was very nice fruit even though it was definitely tight.

    The next day, this wine transformed into a deep, lush, smooth talking powerhouse, and among the dozen various bottles of good stuff on the table, this was everyone’s favorite.

  • Love it, love it! Great show. I’m ecstatic you still hated the Grange. No wine will change that much, well, maybe.

    QOTD: On the plus side, let the ’05 Haywood Zin Los Chamizal sit overnight and it becomes not just a good bottle of wine but an amazing one. Wow.

    On the negative side, ANY Champagne, degrades abruptly no matter what system you use to try and preserve it for next day consumption. I drink the entire bottle that day else chuck it.

    Cheers!

    P.S. I have the #1 bid on “Stinkor” brand new in the package so I’ll ship it to you soon. Also, have you ever seen the Iron Sheik live back in the day? Just curious. I have. Front row at the Cap Centre. 🙂

  • Oh oh. Did “ev” find the big ass glass? I think he did!!!!!!

  • Oh oh. Did “ev” find the big ass glass? I think he did!!!!!!

  • Re the Grange: You were smelling New Jersey’s own superhero, The Toxic Avenger!

    When did you start producing “FREE MOTT” t-shirts, as you mentioned off the top?

  • Re the Grange: You were smelling New Jersey’s own superhero, The Toxic Avenger!

    When did you start producing “FREE MOTT” t-shirts, as you mentioned off the top?

  • qotd- had a donjon pape out for 2 days and still showed quite well I suppose the oxidized flavor had to compliment the overall structure.
    A shout out to Justin at Alinea here in Chicago, where we had some great wines (detailed on the blog) – the Joly savionaire especially. A request for a future show on Biodynamic wines, the ones we had at dinner were great, and I recall a Gwerz that I loved that was BD – but what do I know, let’s hear from the V!

  • qotd- had a donjon pape out for 2 days and still showed quite well I suppose the oxidized flavor had to compliment the overall structure.
    A shout out to Justin at Alinea here in Chicago, where we had some great wines (detailed on the blog) – the Joly savionaire especially. A request for a future show on Biodynamic wines, the ones we had at dinner were great, and I recall a Gwerz that I loved that was BD – but what do I know, let’s hear from the V!

  • QOTD – My bottles never last more than 1 day…lol

  • Pete G

    Still think that Pefolds is missing John Duvall. Wines aren’t the same.

    QOTD: Biggest changers for me have been with ports – 10/20 year old tawnies even som LBVs. They open up so nicely after a couple days is the wine cooler afert being popped.

  • QOTD – My bottles never last more than 1 day…lol

  • Pete G

    Still think that Pefolds is missing John Duvall. Wines aren’t the same.

    QOTD: Biggest changers for me have been with ports – 10/20 year old tawnies even som LBVs. They open up so nicely after a couple days is the wine cooler afert being popped.

  • Zinfreak

    Gary, thanks for not looking to the side every 30 seconds. Much more enjoyable to watch!

    Almost EVERY bottle of red wine in my opinion tastes better the next day. But you have to keep it in the fridge. Just pull it out an hour or two before drinking.

    Quite often I plan ahead and open a bottle of what I want to drink the next day, drink a glass to allow some room for air in the bottle, then put it in the fridge for 24 hours to blossom into a much better wine. Its like decanting times 10.

  • Zinfreak

    Gary, thanks for not looking to the side every 30 seconds. Much more enjoyable to watch!

    Almost EVERY bottle of red wine in my opinion tastes better the next day. But you have to keep it in the fridge. Just pull it out an hour or two before drinking.

    Quite often I plan ahead and open a bottle of what I want to drink the next day, drink a glass to allow some room for air in the bottle, then put it in the fridge for 24 hours to blossom into a much better wine. Its like decanting times 10.

  • QOTD::
    A 1996 Clos la Coutale Cahors – first day uniteresting and flacid…decanted let sit a couple hours, showed some fruit — forgot about it went to work next day came back home (26hrs from first opening) found the decater uncovered on the counter, tried it and BAM! Awesome expression of roasted coffee, cocoa powder, lavendar, rosemary, thyme, black currant, dark blackberry, bright cherry, little wooden wagon with overused rubber tires… on and on and on….drank like cahors can and often does.

    ALSO I believe it’s STINKOR not skunkor Gary! Looked it up and i’m bidding on an original in box now. you can get second series in box ‘buy it now’ for about $30 + shipping….but i’m going for the OG

  • QOTD::
    A 1996 Clos la Coutale Cahors – first day uniteresting and flacid…decanted let sit a couple hours, showed some fruit — forgot about it went to work next day came back home (26hrs from first opening) found the decater uncovered on the counter, tried it and BAM! Awesome expression of roasted coffee, cocoa powder, lavendar, rosemary, thyme, black currant, dark blackberry, bright cherry, little wooden wagon with overused rubber tires… on and on and on….drank like cahors can and often does.

    ALSO I believe it’s STINKOR not skunkor Gary! Looked it up and i’m bidding on an original in box now. you can get second series in box ‘buy it now’ for about $30 + shipping….but i’m going for the OG

  • Phil G

    The cherry juice is grenadine, I think. Please don’t change the into too much, I fell like it set’s the mood for the show.

    QOTD – can’t think of any specific instances, but I feel like there are too many wines that fall apart a day or two after opening them…

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