EP 593 Tasting wine with Maynard James Keenan of Tool in Arizona. Part 2

Gary Vaynerchuk concludes his visit to Arizona with the second part of the episode with one of the most requested guests to appear on the Thunder Show – Maynard James Keenan he also is wowed by the knowledge and passion of winemaker Eric Glomski.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2007 Caduceus Judith’s Cabernet
2007 Caduceus Tempranillo “Sancha”

Links mentioned in today’s episode.

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Luca Bercelli

89/100

line of the day – ‘It’s like a 98 year old Eastern European guy who’s walking around with an iPhone’

Pt 2 about Arizona wines. The guys are possibly patting themselves on the back a little too early…maybe

Tags: Arizona, cabernet, Maynard James Keenan, red, review, Tempranillo, Tool, Video, wine, wines

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  • Wow, this was a great two parter! Really enjoyed myself- good info, fun facts, and some laughs. Most excellent. And the websites were fabulous. I’d love to get on some of those mailing lists.

    QOTD: I faht in your generale direction you Eeenglish kkkkkkkkkk-nigets! Go away or I vill taunt you a second time.

  • Wow, this was a great two parter! Really enjoyed myself- good info, fun facts, and some laughs. Most excellent. And the websites were fabulous. I’d love to get on some of those mailing lists.

    QOTD: I faht in your generale direction you Eeenglish kkkkkkkkkk-nigets! Go away or I vill taunt you a second time.

  • Keith

    Thanks for a classic! I love their sense of experimentation and love of the process. They are a real life example of your mantra, Gary: love your family, trust your palate, try new things, change the wine world.

    QOTD: By unladen do you mean not pregnant, no food in the stomach, or no droppings in the intestine?

  • What do you mean? African or European?

    Nice job guys. Your task is to seek the Holy Grail. And fill it with wine 🙂

  • Keith

    Thanks for a classic! I love their sense of experimentation and love of the process. They are a real life example of your mantra, Gary: love your family, trust your palate, try new things, change the wine world.

    QOTD: By unladen do you mean not pregnant, no food in the stomach, or no droppings in the intestine?

  • What do you mean? African or European?

    Nice job guys. Your task is to seek the Holy Grail. And fill it with wine 🙂

  • QOTD: I’m sure someone’s said it, but European or American?

    Good, good show. I’ve been a King Crimson fan since forever so I’ve come to enjoy Tool as well, all interesting stuff. Thanks again.

  • QOTD: I’m sure someone’s said it, but European or American?

    Good, good show. I’ve been a King Crimson fan since forever so I’ve come to enjoy Tool as well, all interesting stuff. Thanks again.

  • African! I don’t know why I typed American. Jeez, that’s just sad of me.

  • African! I don’t know why I typed American. Jeez, that’s just sad of me.

  • Keith, by “unladen” he meant carrying coconuts or not.

    Any non-Monty Python fans should watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8przKtIU-0s

  • Keith, by “unladen” he meant carrying coconuts or not.

    Any non-Monty Python fans should watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8przKtIU-0s

  • Excited to see promising wines come out of Arizona… It gives me another reason to visit my aunt and uncle in Phoenix 🙂

  • Excited to see promising wines come out of Arizona… It gives me another reason to visit my aunt and uncle in Phoenix 🙂

  • Ray Barnes

    That first wine sounded excellent. I share comments elsewhere that the video quality was not up to the usual standard.

    QOTD – The only people who can make Python jokes and quips funny are the original cast – timing and delivery count for everything. Since John Cleese is a serious wine lover I hope a video blog is done with him someday. I will not answer the question since it came off as a damp squib.

  • Ray Barnes

    That first wine sounded excellent. I share comments elsewhere that the video quality was not up to the usual standard.

    QOTD – The only people who can make Python jokes and quips funny are the original cast – timing and delivery count for everything. Since John Cleese is a serious wine lover I hope a video blog is done with him someday. I will not answer the question since it came off as a damp squib.

  • Matt R

    I was going to make (yet another) wise Python crack then go into superfan mode. Then I went to the web site (caduceus.org) and something clicked.

    To me, there are two types of wines. There are the commercial efforts — the old standbys, of which everybody has their favorites. They’re good, dependable, and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with them. Then there are the personal efforts — the small, intimate wines of with a story. They’re a bottle of someone’s hopes, dreams, and passions.

    I read the mission and quotes, and hit the words “acquired taste,” and I’m sold. Then I started reading the journal — fascinating stuff.

    For those who aren’t familiar, I see a lot of parallels to Maynard’s music. I had the honor of attending a Tool concert a couple years back. 2+ hours of solid music, Maynard stood in the back of the stage, next to the drummer, never stepped into the spotlight, and was only visible in silhouette.

    Maynard’s music, in all it’s forms, are a lot of things, but “accessible” is not on the list. It takes time, patience, and a bit of faith to appreciate it. It’s an experience of learning something about music, and about yourself. That’s a lot more than most groups can ask of their fans.

    That night, there were 1?,000 people in the audience, and they were all there for a reason — that’s just not the concert you go to on a whim. The lack of a bombastic stage presence of the lead singer was more than replaced by the energy of all the fans. It’s truly an experience without parallel.

    I can’t speak to the quality of the wine (yet, but that’s on my to-do list in the very near future,) but reading the journal, it’s clear that same passion is present in a BIG way in this new venture.

    The talk of price was a distraction. I didn’t appreciate wine until I met a winemaker up in the North Georgia Mountains and got the grand tour of his facility. The objective quality of his wines might not stack up against the finest of the commercial bottles, but the honor of sharing a glass with someone for whom this wine was a piece of themselves certainly can’t be measured on a 0-100 scale, and can’t be priced in dollars and cents.

    Kudos, Gary, on an excellent episode, and thanks for bringing this to us.

  • Matt R

    I was going to make (yet another) wise Python crack then go into superfan mode. Then I went to the web site (caduceus.org) and something clicked.

    To me, there are two types of wines. There are the commercial efforts — the old standbys, of which everybody has their favorites. They’re good, dependable, and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with them. Then there are the personal efforts — the small, intimate wines of with a story. They’re a bottle of someone’s hopes, dreams, and passions.

    I read the mission and quotes, and hit the words “acquired taste,” and I’m sold. Then I started reading the journal — fascinating stuff.

    For those who aren’t familiar, I see a lot of parallels to Maynard’s music. I had the honor of attending a Tool concert a couple years back. 2+ hours of solid music, Maynard stood in the back of the stage, next to the drummer, never stepped into the spotlight, and was only visible in silhouette.

    Maynard’s music, in all it’s forms, are a lot of things, but “accessible” is not on the list. It takes time, patience, and a bit of faith to appreciate it. It’s an experience of learning something about music, and about yourself. That’s a lot more than most groups can ask of their fans.

    That night, there were 1?,000 people in the audience, and they were all there for a reason — that’s just not the concert you go to on a whim. The lack of a bombastic stage presence of the lead singer was more than replaced by the energy of all the fans. It’s truly an experience without parallel.

    I can’t speak to the quality of the wine (yet, but that’s on my to-do list in the very near future,) but reading the journal, it’s clear that same passion is present in a BIG way in this new venture.

    The talk of price was a distraction. I didn’t appreciate wine until I met a winemaker up in the North Georgia Mountains and got the grand tour of his facility. The objective quality of his wines might not stack up against the finest of the commercial bottles, but the honor of sharing a glass with someone for whom this wine was a piece of themselves certainly can’t be measured on a 0-100 scale, and can’t be priced in dollars and cents.

    Kudos, Gary, on an excellent episode, and thanks for bringing this to us.

  • The shows I have been waiting for! Thanks Gary! Now that you’ve touched on the “other 46,” you gotta come back to NC!

  • Phil G

    Looking forward to the rise of Arizona wines. Hopefully not on Arizona Bay, though…

  • The shows I have been waiting for! Thanks Gary! Now that you’ve touched on the “other 46,” you gotta come back to NC!

  • Phil G

    Looking forward to the rise of Arizona wines. Hopefully not on Arizona Bay, though…

  • Nice bro…..

    Don’t know what the question was but…….Nice!

  • Nice bro…..

    Don’t know what the question was but…….Nice!

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: African or European??

  • David T

    QOTD: African or European??

  • Kirk: AKA (slave2thevine)

    QOTD: African or European?

    As for this show…I’m so very glad to see that Eric Glomski and Maynard were finally able to get a little facetime with the Vayniacs. I’ve been fortunate enough to taste the first two vintages of the Primer Paso, Naga, and the first vintage of the Sensei. These wines really have great potential…and are fun to enjoy as a fan of wine and Music. The limitations not allowing them to ship to my state has made getting these wines quite expensive…which is hard on a college budget. I’m really looking forward to the future of AZ wines…and hope to find myself working closer to the west coast after completion of my Master’s….

  • Kirk: AKA (slave2thevine)

    QOTD: African or European?

    As for this show…I’m so very glad to see that Eric Glomski and Maynard were finally able to get a little facetime with the Vayniacs. I’ve been fortunate enough to taste the first two vintages of the Primer Paso, Naga, and the first vintage of the Sensei. These wines really have great potential…and are fun to enjoy as a fan of wine and Music. The limitations not allowing them to ship to my state has made getting these wines quite expensive…which is hard on a college budget. I’m really looking forward to the future of AZ wines…and hope to find myself working closer to the west coast after completion of my Master’s….

  • Paul B

    Matt R actually hit the nail on the head. I had taken the time to visit the vineyards when I lived in Arizona because I was a Tool and wine fan. What I came back with was a separation of fandom and product appreciation. I am a wine enthusiast and was very impressed with the wines coming out of Stronghold and Page Springs (Caduceus). This was a great show which I enjoyed every minute of. If I was in Maynard?s position (and this is coming from a hard core Tool fan), I would make one more album and enjoy my retirement doing one of the greatest things on earth, making wine! Love it.

  • Paul B

    Matt R actually hit the nail on the head. I had taken the time to visit the vineyards when I lived in Arizona because I was a Tool and wine fan. What I came back with was a separation of fandom and product appreciation. I am a wine enthusiast and was very impressed with the wines coming out of Stronghold and Page Springs (Caduceus). This was a great show which I enjoyed every minute of. If I was in Maynard?s position (and this is coming from a hard core Tool fan), I would make one more album and enjoy my retirement doing one of the greatest things on earth, making wine! Love it.

  • A dumb Rhine king

    QOTD: Thank you Toni, I’m glad I’m not the only nerd who looked it up. I just wish I would have read your comment before I did 🙂

    Gary, you should let your guests know before the show that they need to ask a QOTD, that way they can be prepared.

  • A dumb Rhine king

    QOTD: Thank you Toni, I’m glad I’m not the only nerd who looked it up. I just wish I would have read your comment before I did 🙂

    Gary, you should let your guests know before the show that they need to ask a QOTD, that way they can be prepared.

  • THAT WAS AWESOME !

    I will definitely seek Arizona wines, although I think they will be hard to find specially if they do not export their products ( I live outside the USA ).

    QOTD: It would depend on the age of the bird…

  • THAT WAS AWESOME !

    I will definitely seek Arizona wines, although I think they will be hard to find specially if they do not export their products ( I live outside the USA ).

    QOTD: It would depend on the age of the bird…

  • mrs mazzanti

    Im curious to know if they will ever ship to misssouri???.i had to have my father in Las Vegas secretly ship some wine to me..

  • mrs mazzanti

    Im curious to know if they will ever ship to misssouri???.i had to have my father in Las Vegas secretly ship some wine to me..

  • David Harris

    Cool Show!

  • David Harris

    Cool Show!

  • Enjoyed pt 2.
    Hope to try an AZ wine in the next few years.

  • Enjoyed pt 2.
    Hope to try an AZ wine in the next few years.

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: African or European? (I’m sure that was typed already today.)

  • YoungDave

    QOTD: African or European? (I’m sure that was typed already today.)

  • Brdavs

    Chris Bartow:
    Swallow coud theoretically grip the coconut by the husk, but a 5 ounce swallow could hardly cary a 1 pound coconut. Unless it was an african swallow… They do not migrate though…

    J Crazy:
    It might be a tree woof.

  • Toni

    Chris Bartow:
    Swallow coud theoretically grip the coconut by the husk, but a 5 ounce swallow could hardly cary a 1 pound coconut. Unless it was an african swallow… They do not migrate though…

    J Crazy:
    It might be a tree woof.

  • torquey

    QOTD: Your mother was a newt and your father smelled of elderberries.

  • torquey

    QOTD: Your mother was a newt and your father smelled of elderberries.

  • Herm

    Great 2 parter….very informative….I’m not quite sure about the air speed but I think it’s swift

  • Herm

    Great 2 parter….very informative….I’m not quite sure about the air speed but I think it’s swift

  • ex-lurkdawg

    nice 2nd part
    Gary, I appreciated your apparent efforts not to interrupt the guests. I think this interview was one of your better ones.
    thank you all

  • ex-lurkdawg

    nice 2nd part
    Gary, I appreciated your apparent efforts not to interrupt the guests. I think this interview was one of your better ones.
    thank you all

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