EP 604 Chenin Blanc and Pinot Bianco

Gary Vaynerchuk tries 3 wines from 2 very cool and exciting grape varietals.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2008 Mulderbosch Chenin BlancSouth African Chenin Blanc
2005 Baumard SavennieresSavenniere
2006 Russiz Superiore Pinot BiancoCollio Goriziano

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Luca Bercelli

90/100

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Nice episode with the highlight being a tasting of 23 year old bubble gum

Tags: cabernet, california, chenin blanc, Pinot Bianco, review, Savenniere, South Africa, Video, white, wine, wines

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  • JayZee

    Maybe this should have been the “Chenin Blanc sShow That Wasn’t”. Oh well. The last wine was at least intriguing. You are so right, though. I still have friends who insist on drinking freaking Pinot Grigio as their “go-to wine”. I can get them to try new things and even often like them, but they still fall back to the damn PG.

    QOTD: Favorite gum? I don’t chew gum anymore. I suppose Juicy Fruit was my favorite.
    SQOTD: No, I have never tried a Savennieres. Actually, I’ve never even heard of it.

  • JayZee

    Maybe this should have been the “Chenin Blanc sShow That Wasn’t”. Oh well. The last wine was at least intriguing. You are so right, though. I still have friends who insist on drinking freaking Pinot Grigio as their “go-to wine”. I can get them to try new things and even often like them, but they still fall back to the damn PG.

    QOTD: Favorite gum? I don’t chew gum anymore. I suppose Juicy Fruit was my favorite.
    SQOTD: No, I have never tried a Savennieres. Actually, I’ve never even heard of it.

  • Man – i could watch the last 1/3 of the show over and over. Classic GV-antics ­čśÇ

  • Man – i could watch the last 1/3 of the show over and over. Classic GV-antics ­čśÇ

  • Finally opened the latest issue of New Jersey Monthly. Congrats on making the list.

  • Finally opened the latest issue of New Jersey Monthly. Congrats on making the list.

  • Raiders 16 – Jets 13

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  • Kevin K

    QOTD: I used to LOVE Gatorade gum.

  • Kevin K

    QOTD: I used to LOVE Gatorade gum.

  • Pete G

    I’ll be on the look out for some Bianco. Did have the 2006 Baumard and it
    had plenty of acid.

    QOTD: Rain speramint

  • Pete G

    I’ll be on the look out for some Bianco. Did have the 2006 Baumard and it
    had plenty of acid.

    QOTD: Rain speramint

  • Brian Barrick

    I had just opened a bottle of Simonsig Chenin Blanc from South Africa when this episode appeared. Great timing! The flavor profile is similar to what you described for the Mulderbosch. Maybe not the most exciting wine, but very drinkable indeed. CB is so versatile, both in terms of food pairings and winemaking styles. I’ll have to look for a sparkling version from the Loire.

    Never tried a Savennieres. I’d much rather drink Sancerre if I’m paying these prices.

    I’m not a fan of Pinot Bianco (or Pinot Blanc, same grape). I do love the texture, but it is almost flavorless on my palate. In general I find the Italian style of white wines to be way too thin in both texture and flavor (there are always exceptions, of course). Never been a fan of Pinot Grigio, though I love a good Pinot Gris from Alsace or Oregon.

    Haven’t chewed gum in years, but I do remember chewing a lot of bubblicious as a kid, and I’ve always been partial to the Clark’s Teaberry.

  • Brian Barrick

    I had just opened a bottle of Simonsig Chenin Blanc from South Africa when this episode appeared. Great timing! The flavor profile is similar to what you described for the Mulderbosch. Maybe not the most exciting wine, but very drinkable indeed. CB is so versatile, both in terms of food pairings and winemaking styles. I’ll have to look for a sparkling version from the Loire.

    Never tried a Savennieres. I’d much rather drink Sancerre if I’m paying these prices.

    I’m not a fan of Pinot Bianco (or Pinot Blanc, same grape). I do love the texture, but it is almost flavorless on my palate. In general I find the Italian style of white wines to be way too thin in both texture and flavor (there are always exceptions, of course). Never been a fan of Pinot Grigio, though I love a good Pinot Gris from Alsace or Oregon.

    Haven’t chewed gum in years, but I do remember chewing a lot of bubblicious as a kid, and I’ve always been partial to the Clark’s Teaberry.

  • guymandude

    QOTD: Extra Polar Ice, it taste like those wax lips you used to get.

  • guymandude

    QOTD: Extra Polar Ice, it taste like those wax lips you used to get.

  • Bill

    CBG wrote:
    “Gary?s watch is an Urwerk UR-202?”

    NO WAY that is an Urwerk UR-202 – I can see hands and markers on GaryV’s watch in the still above, two features both missing in an Urwerk UR-202 which uses rotating tumblers and a guage-like swath for minutes.

    A Bulova? Entirely possible – I too have a square Bulova and thought it looked somewhat similar.

    Oh well, I’d better see the next episode – maybe he said what it is!

    Bill the Wrist Watch Freak

  • Bill

    CBG wrote:
    “Gary?s watch is an Urwerk UR-202?”

    NO WAY that is an Urwerk UR-202 – I can see hands and markers on GaryV’s watch in the still above, two features both missing in an Urwerk UR-202 which uses rotating tumblers and a guage-like swath for minutes.

    A Bulova? Entirely possible – I too have a square Bulova and thought it looked somewhat similar.

    Oh well, I’d better see the next episode – maybe he said what it is!

    Bill the Wrist Watch Freak

  • QOTD: Fruit Stripe Gum!!!!!!!

  • QOTD: Fruit Stripe Gum!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    QOTD 1: YES I have had Sauvennieres, and I serve the 2004 Baumard in my restaurant!

    QOTD 2:
    Everyday: Trident White
    Desert Island: Big League Chew!

  • YoungDave

    QOTD 1: YES I have had Sauvennieres, and I serve the 2004 Baumard in my restaurant!

    QOTD 2:
    Everyday: Trident White
    Desert Island: Big League Chew!

  • Very interesting show. Even though you weren’t really feeling the first two wines, as a relative newcomer to the wine world (only turned 21 six months ago) it has inspired me to try these two different varietals. I always enjoy trying something new!

  • Very interesting show. Even though you weren’t really feeling the first two wines, as a relative newcomer to the wine world (only turned 21 six months ago) it has inspired me to try these two different varietals. I always enjoy trying something new!

  • Nina

    QOTD: Hubba Bubba bubblegum…remember the commercials where the guy sounded like he was doing a bonanza commercial? I used to try and chew the entire pack at once. Can we say sugar rush?

    wow…I am in your age bracket and I remember buying that gum.

    Back from a hiatus of teaching too much and forgetting some joys like watching you.
    cheers

  • Nina

    QOTD: Hubba Bubba bubblegum…remember the commercials where the guy sounded like he was doing a bonanza commercial? I used to try and chew the entire pack at once. Can we say sugar rush?

    wow…I am in your age bracket and I remember buying that gum.

    Back from a hiatus of teaching too much and forgetting some joys like watching you.
    cheers

  • Sonia

    Loved the show! That gum sounded gross!!!

    I’ve never had a Savennieres… but I have had a Chenin Blanc, it was pretty tasty, but not “thought provoking” in the least.
    My favorite gum has to be the the sour apple Bubblicious (or is it Hubba Bubba?)

  • Sonia

    Loved the show! That gum sounded gross!!!

    I’ve never had a Savennieres… but I have had a Chenin Blanc, it was pretty tasty, but not “thought provoking” in the least.
    My favorite gum has to be the the sour apple Bubblicious (or is it Hubba Bubba?)

  • Eric S.

    Never tried a Sauvennieres or a Chenin Blanc for that matter. Need a little more persuasion to pick one up after some of those reviews. Impressed you tried that gum and I totally was into 87 topps, definitely the wood border.

  • Eric S.

    Never tried a Sauvennieres or a Chenin Blanc for that matter. Need a little more persuasion to pick one up after some of those reviews. Impressed you tried that gum and I totally was into 87 topps, definitely the wood border.

  • Marco Raimondi

    Hey, I love Italian Pinot Bianco; it’s usu. the best white coming out of Italia! And, it IS to be confused with Pinot Blanc (it’s the same grape). You might want to check out some of the Pinot Bianc from Alto Adige; the wines actually age and gain complexity with a few years in the cellar.

    I normally get crisp apples and bread-sticks out of Pinot Bianco; the bonus is NO OAK & it loves food!

  • Marco Raimondi

    Hey, I love Italian Pinot Bianco; it’s usu. the best white coming out of Italia! And, it IS to be confused with Pinot Blanc (it’s the same grape). You might want to check out some of the Pinot Bianc from Alto Adige; the wines actually age and gain complexity with a few years in the cellar.

    I normally get crisp apples and bread-sticks out of Pinot Bianco; the bonus is NO OAK & it loves food!

  • QOTD1: no
    QOTD2: ice breakers

  • QOTD1: no
    QOTD2: ice breakers

  • Derek F

    Dude that gum turned into dust..NASTY!!!

    QOTD: Big League Chew

  • Derek F

    Dude that gum turned into dust..NASTY!!!

    QOTD: Big League Chew

  • Miguel Cavalcanti

    Another great show. I chew gum only when I need an emergency bicycle tire tube patch, but I popped the cork on an ?04 Laroche Domaine aux Moines Savenni├Ęres while you tried the Baumard. The dried hay on the nose was nice, and so was the slate minerality, but it was just too acidic to be enjoyable with bland goat cheese and crackers. I do have the Baumard ?05 Quarts de Chaume, the sweet version of Chenin Blanc you mentioned at the start?too bad it won?t be ready to drink until 5 more years.

    I?ve enjoyed Pinot Blanc from Alsace but never had one from Italy. I recently tried an Italian Gew├╝rtztraminer and it blew the socks off most of the Alsatian Gew├╝rtz I?d been drinking, so I think it?s time to take your and Marco?s advice.

  • Miguel Cavalcanti

    Another great show. I chew gum only when I need an emergency bicycle tire tube patch, but I popped the cork on an ?04 Laroche Domaine aux Moines Savenni├Ęres while you tried the Baumard. The dried hay on the nose was nice, and so was the slate minerality, but it was just too acidic to be enjoyable with bland goat cheese and crackers. I do have the Baumard ?05 Quarts de Chaume, the sweet version of Chenin Blanc you mentioned at the start?too bad it won?t be ready to drink until 5 more years.

    I?ve enjoyed Pinot Blanc from Alsace but never had one from Italy. I recently tried an Italian Gew├╝rtztraminer and it blew the socks off most of the Alsatian Gew├╝rtz I?d been drinking, so I think it?s time to take your and Marco?s advice.

  • Jayhitek

    QOTD: Juicy Fruit!

  • Jayhitek

    QOTD: Juicy Fruit!

  • Christine

    QOTD: Clove gum

  • Christine

    QOTD: Clove gum

  • Murso

    GV, you are cuh ray zee! That closing was excellent. I laughed, even as I don’t know who those pictures of those people are, or what that means.!!

    What I do know is that them’s three respectable, to say the least, producers.
    Mulderbosch has been perennially, my fave widely available SAUV. Blanc maker in South Africa, and I’m confident that there are S.A. small/boutique producers who are much better. That S.A. practically equals Chenin Blanc makes this 87 a bit of a surprse, but I feel ya. Baumard is ‘the man’s man’ of Loire Chenin blanc, so there ya go. Finally, you said Marco Feluga, and there is no surprise that it out performs the others. Both Livio and Marco make outstanding wines, and that goes for some of the reds, too, which I’d served a good deal of in a high end Rist. years ago.

    But my first infatuation with the Pinot Bianco was around twenty years ago, in the guise of Tieffenbruner’s PB Alto Adige, and that was years before the whole Pinot Grigio thing. Loved it. Remembered it.

    After weeks of painful, intermittent connectivity issues, it seems I’ back again, enough to add my two cents. Happy to be back. Keep it up! over and out.

  • Anonymous

    GV, you are cuh ray zee! That closing was excellent. I laughed, even as I don’t know who those pictures of those people are, or what that means.!!

    What I do know is that them’s three respectable, to say the least, producers.
    Mulderbosch has been perennially, my fave widely available SAUV. Blanc maker in South Africa, and I’m confident that there are S.A. small/boutique producers who are much better. That S.A. practically equals Chenin Blanc makes this 87 a bit of a surprse, but I feel ya. Baumard is ‘the man’s man’ of Loire Chenin blanc, so there ya go. Finally, you said Marco Feluga, and there is no surprise that it out performs the others. Both Livio and Marco make outstanding wines, and that goes for some of the reds, too, which I’d served a good deal of in a high end Rist. years ago.

    But my first infatuation with the Pinot Bianco was around twenty years ago, in the guise of Tieffenbruner’s PB Alto Adige, and that was years before the whole Pinot Grigio thing. Loved it. Remembered it.

    After weeks of painful, intermittent connectivity issues, it seems I’ back again, enough to add my two cents. Happy to be back. Keep it up! over and out.

  • OH, that Pinot Bianco from Friuli is totally up my alley for what I like in white wine. If you ever are able to ship to MA, there will be some sort of path grooved by UPS (or Fedex) from NJ to MA. But until then, *sigh*. I’ve had the Sauv Blanc from Mulderbosch and found it, well, overrated.
    QOTD: I don’t chew gum now, but when I was in H.S., I made like a 50-ft gum wrapper chain, so I must have liked it at the time.

  • OH, that Pinot Bianco from Friuli is totally up my alley for what I like in white wine. If you ever are able to ship to MA, there will be some sort of path grooved by UPS (or Fedex) from NJ to MA. But until then, *sigh*. I’ve had the Sauv Blanc from Mulderbosch and found it, well, overrated.
    QOTD: I don’t chew gum now, but when I was in H.S., I made like a 50-ft gum wrapper chain, so I must have liked it at the time.

  • Pete C

    Love the Pinot Bianco/Pinot Blanc, whether from Alto Aldige, Alsace, or Oregon.

  • Pete C

    Love the Pinot Bianco/Pinot Blanc, whether from Alto Aldige, Alsace, or Oregon.

  • Steve Spielmann

    If you can spend the $, try Huet or Pinon from the Loire. Beautiful wines.

  • Steve Spielmann

    If you can spend the $, try Huet or Pinon from the Loire. Beautiful wines.

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