EP 616 An Aussie wine tasting with a visiting Aussie Chef

Chef Benjamin Christie and Gary Vaynerchuk taste 3 Australian wines that are widely available.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2007 D’arenberg The Hermit CrabAustralian White Meritage
2006 Kooyong Massale Pinot NoirAustralian Pinot Noir
2005 Penfolds Cab/shiraz Bin 389Australian Red Meritage

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Luca Bercelli

90/100

line of the day – ‘anything could look good with make up on’

Decent guest, decent wines, solid show

Tags: Australian, meritage, Pinot Noir, red, review, Video, white, wine, wines

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  • ian

    Bream Creak Pinot 2007 (Tasmanian winery, hard to find outside Tasmania)

  • ian

    Bream Creak Pinot 2007 (Tasmanian winery, hard to find outside Tasmania)

  • Jon

    Favorite Australian wine would have to be the Petaluma Coonawarra Cabernet Merlot.

    I have to say I agree with you on the Kooyong Massale Pinot Noir, there really is not anything compelling on the pallet of this wine. It’s inoffensive at best.

    In regards to the Penfolds Cab/shiraz Bin 389 I think you have to realize it’s not really a wine made to be drunk so young. I personally don’t enjoy drinking these wines when they are young, as you say the oak is overpowering. After they have aged a few years it is a very different matter. The oak that was overpowering as a young wine will mellow to create a beautifully balanced older wine with everything in harmony.

  • Jon

    Favorite Australian wine would have to be the Petaluma Coonawarra Cabernet Merlot.

    I have to say I agree with you on the Kooyong Massale Pinot Noir, there really is not anything compelling on the pallet of this wine. It’s inoffensive at best.

    In regards to the Penfolds Cab/shiraz Bin 389 I think you have to realize it’s not really a wine made to be drunk so young. I personally don’t enjoy drinking these wines when they are young, as you say the oak is overpowering. After they have aged a few years it is a very different matter. The oak that was overpowering as a young wine will mellow to create a beautifully balanced older wine with everything in harmony.

  • nnothing

    qotd: jim barry lodge hill shiraz

  • nnothing

    qotd: jim barry lodge hill shiraz

  • Monica

    QOTD:

    A Wednesday – Hope Estate 2007 Hunter Valley Shiraz

    A birthday dinner – McGuigans 2005 Personal Reserve Shiraz

  • Monica

    QOTD:

    A Wednesday – Hope Estate 2007 Hunter Valley Shiraz

    A birthday dinner – McGuigans 2005 Personal Reserve Shiraz

  • DRJ

    I enjoy WLTV but would love to see Garry try some of the wines listed by Miles to dispel any generic myths he may have about Australian wines. As with all wines around the world try and source out good vintages. But as with most great Aussie wines they will need time in a dark cool place. Garry might want to follow this link http://www.langtons.com.au/Wine/ClassificationView.aspx for some ideas on Australian wines and vintages to try. However this is just the tip of the iceberg for great Australian wines.

    I can fully understand Bill’s frustration when Garry drinks a very young wine especially a Bin 389. Never drink these wines young! I personally do not like them at all when they are young. Wines in this style are made for the long haul. I drank a 96 & 98 Bin 389 in the past month and both these wines are still another 10-20+ years from their peak. I have also seen Garry drinking young Grange from a poor vintage. Why bother? A. Go for a top Vintage and B. Drink it in 30-50 years time when it is designed to peak. I recently drank a 71 & 76 Grange (both awesome wines!) and both still have a few years left in them yet. Even at 38 & 33 years old I don’t doubt these wines will still be drinking well at their 50th birthdays.

    QOTD:
    WHITE
    2008 macforbes RS37 Riesling (Strathbogie Ranges) ? (Cellar Door in Yarra Valley)
    2008 Galli Estate Artigiano Chardonnay (Sunbury)

    RED
    2005 Curley Flat Pinot Noir (Macedon Ranges)
    2003 Domaine A Cabernet Sauvignon (Coal River Valley in Southern Tasmania)

  • DRJ

    I enjoy WLTV but would love to see Garry try some of the wines listed by Miles to dispel any generic myths he may have about Australian wines. As with all wines around the world try and source out good vintages. But as with most great Aussie wines they will need time in a dark cool place. Garry might want to follow this link http://www.langtons.com.au/Wine/ClassificationView.aspx for some ideas on Australian wines and vintages to try. However this is just the tip of the iceberg for great Australian wines.

    I can fully understand Bill’s frustration when Garry drinks a very young wine especially a Bin 389. Never drink these wines young! I personally do not like them at all when they are young. Wines in this style are made for the long haul. I drank a 96 & 98 Bin 389 in the past month and both these wines are still another 10-20+ years from their peak. I have also seen Garry drinking young Grange from a poor vintage. Why bother? A. Go for a top Vintage and B. Drink it in 30-50 years time when it is designed to peak. I recently drank a 71 & 76 Grange (both awesome wines!) and both still have a few years left in them yet. Even at 38 & 33 years old I don’t doubt these wines will still be drinking well at their 50th birthdays.

    QOTD:
    WHITE
    2008 macforbes RS37 Riesling (Strathbogie Ranges) ? (Cellar Door in Yarra Valley)
    2008 Galli Estate Artigiano Chardonnay (Sunbury)

    RED
    2005 Curley Flat Pinot Noir (Macedon Ranges)
    2003 Domaine A Cabernet Sauvignon (Coal River Valley in Southern Tasmania)

  • ulu ulu ulu ulu

    I think you’re right on point, Gary. The bin 407 is also ridiculously oaked. It smells like my face is coated in butter. That being said, my favorite Australian wine could be Penfolds’ Grange

  • ulu ulu ulu ulu

    I think you’re right on point, Gary. The bin 407 is also ridiculously oaked. It smells like my face is coated in butter. That being said, my favorite Australian wine could be Penfolds’ Grange

  • Gavin

    If you like the D’arenberg Hermit Crab, you should try their “Dry Dam Riesling”. I loved it when I had it earlier this year. Also, if you get a chance, having a meal at their Cellar Door restaurant is amazing.

    My favourite Australian wines seem to change quite a lot, but at the moment:
    WHITE
    Pewsey Vale – Riesling (Eden Valley)
    RED
    Kay Brothers Amery – Block 6 Shiraz (Mcarenvale)
    Penley Estate- Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon (Coonawarra)

  • Gavin

    If you like the D’arenberg Hermit Crab, you should try their “Dry Dam Riesling”. I loved it when I had it earlier this year. Also, if you get a chance, having a meal at their Cellar Door restaurant is amazing.

    My favourite Australian wines seem to change quite a lot, but at the moment:
    WHITE
    Pewsey Vale – Riesling (Eden Valley)
    RED
    Kay Brothers Amery – Block 6 Shiraz (Mcarenvale)
    Penley Estate- Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon (Coonawarra)

  • Drew

    I have to agree with other posters here, I have seen you try a 4-6 year old Grange and complain about the oak, but for somebody that has read and researched wine you appear to have absolutely no understanding of how oak contributes to a great 30 year old wine.

    You wouldn’t drink a First Growth at 5-10 years old, likewise you wouldn’t drink a Grange at that age.

    If you drink a Grange at ANYTHING less than 20 years then you are pissing your money up against a wall. Likewise if you drink a Bin 389 at less than 15 years you are also pissing your money up against a wall.

    Gary, PLEASE, PLEASE, try a 1990 Bin 389, Grange or Bin 90a and learn what great aged Aussie wine is all about.

  • Drew

    I have to agree with other posters here, I have seen you try a 4-6 year old Grange and complain about the oak, but for somebody that has read and researched wine you appear to have absolutely no understanding of how oak contributes to a great 30 year old wine.

    You wouldn’t drink a First Growth at 5-10 years old, likewise you wouldn’t drink a Grange at that age.

    If you drink a Grange at ANYTHING less than 20 years then you are pissing your money up against a wall. Likewise if you drink a Bin 389 at less than 15 years you are also pissing your money up against a wall.

    Gary, PLEASE, PLEASE, try a 1990 Bin 389, Grange or Bin 90a and learn what great aged Aussie wine is all about.

  • richardvinifera

    QOTD: Fox Creek Duet (Cab/Merlot/Cab Franc) is really good at its price point.

  • richardvinifera

    QOTD: Fox Creek Duet (Cab/Merlot/Cab Franc) is really good at its price point.

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  • Great to see Australian wines getting some good publicity! Noting like a good wine when traveling the country on your camper trailer.

  • Grill Factor

    1996 Orlando St. Hugo Cabernet. Bloody sensational

  • John__J

    Qotd: don’t like fav wine questions, I don’t know how you can pick just one.

    Great guest and episode

  • Anonymous

    QOTD .. My fav Oz wine was mentioned a few times today….. d’Arenberg The Laughing Magpie… Love the blend, from a reliable producer and I have a romantic attachment to the wine..

  • Anonymous

    Have had the Hermit and Penfolds before. Chef has never seen snow??…should of been in NJ this winter… QOTD-anything by Ben Glatezer http://www.winelx.com

  • My Favourite Aussie Wine is Bird in Hand Cabernet Sauvignon When can we see some Bird in Hand Wines on Wine Library TV Gary? I mean the Bird In Hand Sparkling Pinot Noir is now the #3 top selling Sparkling wine in Australia. Love to hear what you have to say about Bird in Hand Wines Gary. I have learnt so much from watching your shows love ya work Gary!

  • Hypersomnia

    QOTD: Up to this point probably the Mollydooker The Boxer. Super fruit bomby but pretty tasty.

  • 90/100

    line of the day – ‘anything could look good with make up on’

    Decent guest, decent wines, solid show

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