EP 742 Wine & Spirits Top 100 – Part 2

Concluding today with Joshua Greene, Editor of Wine & Spirits Magazine, visits to give a sneak peak at their Top 100 Wines of 2009.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 D’arenberg Footbolt ShirazAustralian Shiraz/Syrah
2001 Marques de Murrietta Castillo Y Gay Gran Reserva Especial
2005 Diamond Creek Red Rock Terrace Cabernet SauvignonAustralian Shiraz/Syrah

Links mentioned in todays episode.


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93/100

lines of the day – ‘It’s like having a guy wearing overalls in New York City. It’s out of place at some level’ and ‘Supersilk Mott….like your sheets at home’

As with the wines, this episode got better on the second day. great guest, really informative and entertaining banter…very well ‘balanced’

Tags: Australian, cabernet, napa, red, review, Rioja, Sauvignon, Spanish, Video, wine, Wine & Spirits Top 100, wines

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  • Great and interesting show!

    QOTD… We pretty much stopped buying California cabernet sauvignon. The prices are simply too high, and honestly, for our palates, not worth the money. Why spend $200 on a bottle for cellar (or more) when I can get 4 or 5 bottles of something I like just as much – or more? We are buying lots of Washington State cabs and syrahs (Heck… I can go to the grocery store that is 2 miles from my home and buy a Leonetti cab right now for $85!). In the $40-50 range, I can get Woodward Canyon, Fielding Hills, Pepper Bridge, Robert Karl Inspiration Reserve, some of the Andrew Will wines, some of the DeLille wines…. heck – way too many labels to mention, that bring just as much thunder for a heck of a lot less cash.

  • Great and interesting show!

    QOTD… We pretty much stopped buying California cabernet sauvignon. The prices are simply too high, and honestly, for our palates, not worth the money. Why spend $200 on a bottle for cellar (or more) when I can get 4 or 5 bottles of something I like just as much – or more? We are buying lots of Washington State cabs and syrahs (Heck… I can go to the grocery store that is 2 miles from my home and buy a Leonetti cab right now for $85!). In the $40-50 range, I can get Woodward Canyon, Fielding Hills, Pepper Bridge, Robert Karl Inspiration Reserve, some of the Andrew Will wines, some of the DeLille wines…. heck – way too many labels to mention, that bring just as much thunder for a heck of a lot less cash.

  • SurfCityJay

    Awesome 2-part episode… you could tell the LOVE Joshua has for wine… he drank a wine from 1934…? That’s older than my Father!!!

    QOTD: Great question… I buy Napa Cabs… always have, always will… As a person lucky enough to be born in this great state, buying and drinking it’s “terrior” is something I treasure and enjoy… Anderson’s Conn Valley, Turnbull (best under $40 Cab fr your $$), Dominus, Caymus, and they’re just sitting in the wine cabinet, waiting for that special event… and due to this episode, just joined the Diamond Creek mailing list… with the economy, all of these are REALLY discounted, so now’s the time to BUY BUY BUY!

  • SurfCityJay

    Awesome 2-part episode… you could tell the LOVE Joshua has for wine… he drank a wine from 1934…? That’s older than my Father!!!

    QOTD: Great question… I buy Napa Cabs… always have, always will… As a person lucky enough to be born in this great state, buying and drinking it’s “terrior” is something I treasure and enjoy… Anderson’s Conn Valley, Turnbull (best under $40 Cab fr your $$), Dominus, Caymus, and they’re just sitting in the wine cabinet, waiting for that special event… and due to this episode, just joined the Diamond Creek mailing list… with the economy, all of these are REALLY discounted, so now’s the time to BUY BUY BUY!

  • SurfCityJay

    Awesome 2-part episode… you could tell the LOVE Joshua has for wine… he drank a wine from 1934…? That’s older than my Father!!!

    QOTD: Great question… I buy Napa Cabs… always have, always will… As a person lucky enough to be born in this great state, buying and drinking it’s “terrior” is something I treasure and enjoy… Anderson’s Conn Valley, Turnbull (best under $40 Cab fr your $$), Dominus, Caymus, and they’re just sitting in the wine cabinet, waiting for that special event… and due to this episode, just joined the Diamond Creek mailing list… with the economy, all of these are REALLY discounted, so now’s the time to BUY BUY BUY!

  • Kevin K

    QOTD: We have severely cut down our wine budget, but I am still sneaking in some cabs. Mostly Wellington.

  • Kevin K

    QOTD: We have severely cut down our wine budget, but I am still sneaking in some cabs. Mostly Wellington.

  • quaffed

    I find better value outside California. I think there is exceptional wine made there but this state accounts for almost 90% of the wine production in the US. Very generally speaking, I feel the cost of doing business there; land, labor…, drives the price of bottles beyond what I would value them at. There are exceptions, but I’m not a gambler and stay somewhat fiscally conservative. That being said, Diamond Creek sure did come off in this superb episode as something to try. All and all, there is that rounded 10% left in the US to explore and also the rest of the World. If I win the lottery, then I might by a lawn-chair, an acre of California land for three-hundred thousand dollars, and build a cellar to store all what would then be local for me to enjoy.

  • quaffed

    I find better value outside California. I think there is exceptional wine made there but this state accounts for almost 90% of the wine production in the US. Very generally speaking, I feel the cost of doing business there; land, labor…, drives the price of bottles beyond what I would value them at. There are exceptions, but I’m not a gambler and stay somewhat fiscally conservative. That being said, Diamond Creek sure did come off in this superb episode as something to try. All and all, there is that rounded 10% left in the US to explore and also the rest of the World. If I win the lottery, then I might by a lawn-chair, an acre of California land for three-hundred thousand dollars, and build a cellar to store all what would then be local for me to enjoy.

  • Tracy Mercer

    Hi Gary
    Hate to plug another site, but you can see which producers are in the cash flow squeeze by seeing what’s on sale at wine woot. The top shelf Cab producers probably enjoyed larger cash reserves so can wait it out if they don’t sell their wines . .. but then, they probably sold all they made.
    I think there is a HUGE snob factor with most of these wines, but then, maybe I’ll try that Insignia somebody GAVE me tonight 😉

  • Tracy Mercer

    Hi Gary
    Hate to plug another site, but you can see which producers are in the cash flow squeeze by seeing what’s on sale at wine woot. The top shelf Cab producers probably enjoyed larger cash reserves so can wait it out if they don’t sell their wines . .. but then, they probably sold all they made.
    I think there is a HUGE snob factor with most of these wines, but then, maybe I’ll try that Insignia somebody GAVE me tonight 😉

  • quaffed

    I find better value outside California. I think there is exceptional wine made there but this state accounts for almost 90% of the wine production in the US. Very generally speaking, I feel the cost of doing business there; land, labor…, drives the price of bottles beyond what I would value them at. There are exceptions, but I’m not a gambler and stay somewhat fiscally conservative. That being said, Diamond Creek sure did come off in this superb episode as something to try. All and all, there is that rounded 10% left in the US to explore and also the rest of the World. If I win the lottery, then I might by a lawn-chair, an acre of California land for three-hundred thousand dollars, and build a cellar to store all what would then be local for me to enjoy.

  • Hi Gary
    Hate to plug another site, but you can see which producers are in the cash flow squeeze by seeing what’s on sale at wine woot. The top shelf Cab producers probably enjoyed larger cash reserves so can wait it out if they don’t sell their wines . .. but then, they probably sold all they made.
    I think there is a HUGE snob factor with most of these wines, but then, maybe I’ll try that Insignia somebody GAVE me tonight 😉

  • GMB822

    GARY: Excellent show…possibly my favorite to date. Joshua Greene: Excellent guest and you were well BALANCED in your dynamic with him–you have tended to overpower guests at times, but you did well to let him speak freely and insert yourself in the empty spaces. Nice work. QOTD: As a young person and recent college grad, I haven’t yet been able to foray into the world of pricey California Cab–i’ll get there one day–but this episode certainly has fueled my desire to one day explore and hopefully taste that Diamond Creek!

  • GMB822

    GARY: Excellent show…possibly my favorite to date. Joshua Greene: Excellent guest and you were well BALANCED in your dynamic with him–you have tended to overpower guests at times, but you did well to let him speak freely and insert yourself in the empty spaces. Nice work. QOTD: As a young person and recent college grad, I haven’t yet been able to foray into the world of pricey California Cab–i’ll get there one day–but this episode certainly has fueled my desire to one day explore and hopefully taste that Diamond Creek!

  • GMB822

    GARY: Excellent show…possibly my favorite to date. Joshua Greene: Excellent guest and you were well BALANCED in your dynamic with him–you have tended to overpower guests at times, but you did well to let him speak freely and insert yourself in the empty spaces. Nice work. QOTD: As a young person and recent college grad, I haven’t yet been able to foray into the world of pricey California Cab–i’ll get there one day–but this episode certainly has fueled my desire to one day explore and hopefully taste that Diamond Creek!

  • Scott EJ

    Thank you Gary and Joshua. A very informative and entertaining show w/fantastic wines to showcase. Like Gary said, W&S has always been a favorite of mine for it’s stories. It is so cool to put a (the) face behind the pages.

    QOTD: I like a good Napa/Somoma Cab, but, I think they’ve priced themselves out of most peoples regular buying habits. Plus, alot of other regions are stepping up, ie: Washington, Chile, Argentina for cabs and other varietals. Personally, I’d rather have 4 moderately priced Napa cabs than 1 blowout wine.

    Thanks again…you guys really showed well.

  • Scott EJ

    Thank you Gary and Joshua. A very informative and entertaining show w/fantastic wines to showcase. Like Gary said, W&S has always been a favorite of mine for it’s stories. It is so cool to put a (the) face behind the pages.

    QOTD: I like a good Napa/Somoma Cab, but, I think they’ve priced themselves out of most peoples regular buying habits. Plus, alot of other regions are stepping up, ie: Washington, Chile, Argentina for cabs and other varietals. Personally, I’d rather have 4 moderately priced Napa cabs than 1 blowout wine.

    Thanks again…you guys really showed well.

  • Scott EJ

    Thank you Gary and Joshua. A very informative and entertaining show w/fantastic wines to showcase. Like Gary said, W&S has always been a favorite of mine for it’s stories. It is so cool to put a (the) face behind the pages.

    QOTD: I like a good Napa/Somoma Cab, but, I think they’ve priced themselves out of most peoples regular buying habits. Plus, alot of other regions are stepping up, ie: Washington, Chile, Argentina for cabs and other varietals. Personally, I’d rather have 4 moderately priced Napa cabs than 1 blowout wine.

    Thanks again…you guys really showed well.

  • Dr T in NC

    Good pair of shows. QOTD — fortunately, my wine buying habits haven’t had to change. Alas, they rarely go above $30, but when I do it’s most likely a Left Bank or CaliCab

  • Dr T in NC

    Good pair of shows. QOTD — fortunately, my wine buying habits haven’t had to change. Alas, they rarely go above $30, but when I do it’s most likely a Left Bank or CaliCab

  • Iúri Leão

    Amazing episode! Congratulations.

    Please keep up with these awesome interviews with respected professionals like Mr. Greene.

    QOTD: I’m brazilian, so Napa Cab never gets in here. Nonetheless, we get great stuff from all around the world. Lately I’ve been buying selected portuguese wines.

  • Iúri Leão

    Amazing episode! Congratulations.

    Please keep up with these awesome interviews with respected professionals like Mr. Greene.

    QOTD: I’m brazilian, so Napa Cab never gets in here. Nonetheless, we get great stuff from all around the world. Lately I’ve been buying selected portuguese wines.

  • Dr T in NC

    Good pair of shows. QOTD — fortunately, my wine buying habits haven’t had to change. Alas, they rarely go above $30, but when I do it’s most likely a Left Bank or CaliCab

  • Iúri Leão

    Amazing episode! Congratulations.

    Please keep up with these awesome interviews with respected professionals like Mr. Greene.

    QOTD: I’m brazilian, so Napa Cab never gets in here. Nonetheless, we get great stuff from all around the world. Lately I’ve been buying selected portuguese wines.

  • Secret pack! Secret pack! Secret pack!

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  • With California wines, I’ve moved from Cab to Syrah. I was at a Napa Valley Vitners Association tasting in Chicago last week, and there were plenty of good cabs (Corison was amazing) and some consistent but indistinct ones (may be true of most age-worthy wines at a young age) — but my favorites were the Syrahs Lagier-Meredith, Keenan, and Rocca. To my palate, they were simply the most interesting and most individually expressive wines there, and at $30-$50 a decent value as well for an intense, extrordinary experience.

    I have a 1988 Diamond Creek Volcanic Hill stashed away (bought it for $45 from the retail arm of an auction house) — looking forward to it. It’s worth mentioning as well that the secondary market seems to have decent deals on older Diamond Creek cabs, in the $50-$100 range.

  • With California wines, I’ve moved from Cab to Syrah. I was at a Napa Valley Vitners Association tasting in Chicago last week, and there were plenty of good cabs (Corison was amazing) and some consistent but indistinct ones (may be true of most age-worthy wines at a young age) — but my favorites were the Syrahs Lagier-Meredith, Keenan, and Rocca. To my palate, they were simply the most interesting and most individually expressive wines there, and at $30-$50 a decent value as well for an intense, extrordinary experience.

    I have a 1988 Diamond Creek Volcanic Hill stashed away (bought it for $45 from the retail arm of an auction house) — looking forward to it. It’s worth mentioning as well that the secondary market seems to have decent deals on older Diamond Creek cabs, in the $50-$100 range.

  • With California wines, I’ve moved from Cab to Syrah. I was at a Napa Valley Vitners Association tasting in Chicago last week, and there were plenty of good cabs (Corison was amazing) and some consistent but indistinct ones (may be true of most age-worthy wines at a young age) — but my favorites were the Syrahs Lagier-Meredith, Keenan, and Rocca. To my palate, they were simply the most interesting and most individually expressive wines there, and at $30-$50 a decent value as well for an intense, extrordinary experience.

    I have a 1988 Diamond Creek Volcanic Hill stashed away (bought it for $45 from the retail arm of an auction house) — looking forward to it. It’s worth mentioning as well that the secondary market seems to have decent deals on older Diamond Creek cabs, in the $50-$100 range.

  • Holladown

    first class show all around.

    keep it up, those we’re both entertaining and educational.

    QOTD: never really had the dough to buy any of the CaliCabs i ever tasted and liked.

    we drink cote de rhones lately, and a variety of whites, seeing its still rockin hot here in south florida.

  • Holladown

    first class show all around.

    keep it up, those we’re both entertaining and educational.

    QOTD: never really had the dough to buy any of the CaliCabs i ever tasted and liked.

    we drink cote de rhones lately, and a variety of whites, seeing its still rockin hot here in south florida.

  • Holladown

    first class show all around.

    keep it up, those we’re both entertaining and educational.

    QOTD: never really had the dough to buy any of the CaliCabs i ever tasted and liked.

    we drink cote de rhones lately, and a variety of whites, seeing its still rockin hot here in south florida.

  • canadapete

    Great show. Very nice guest – knows so much but down to earth.

    QOTD. I drink almost no Cali Cab because it is so overpriced right across the board. It is only for wealthy people – who can afford the top tier stuff, or people who drink for show. It is the polar opposite of value.

  • canadapete

    Great show. Very nice guest – knows so much but down to earth.

    QOTD. I drink almost no Cali Cab because it is so overpriced right across the board. It is only for wealthy people – who can afford the top tier stuff, or people who drink for show. It is the polar opposite of value.

  • GeneV

    Great show. I’m a huge fan of traditional Rioja. A Lopez de Heredia with paella is heaven.

  • GeneV

    Great show. I’m a huge fan of traditional Rioja. A Lopez de Heredia with paella is heaven.

  • wooden palate

    Excellent episode.

    QOTD: I buy California Cabs once in a blue moon; Napa Cabs, almost never. But I’m a cheapskate, so dropping even $20 on a bottle of wine is rare.

  • wooden palate

    Excellent episode.

    QOTD: I buy California Cabs once in a blue moon; Napa Cabs, almost never. But I’m a cheapskate, so dropping even $20 on a bottle of wine is rare.

  • Gary: I have seen what, every show of yours and I will proclaim now that this is one of the most intriguing and intellectual shows you have produced. A very knowledgeable guest and a show of two titans (oh oh, Titans!) in the industry bantering about classic wines and the people behind the scenes as though they are part of your family which this show is all about. Great, great show. I loved it.

    QOTD: Yes, the economy has spanked California Cabs though I still buy Dominus, of course, and was lucky enough for a friend to bring over a ’97 and a ’00 last weekend as a token of our friendship. I had to give him a shoutout. Amazing gifts.

    P.S. The link above of the Diamond Creek says it’s an Australian Shiraz/Syrah. Please fix.

  • Gary: I have seen what, every show of yours and I will proclaim now that this is one of the most intriguing and intellectual shows you have produced. A very knowledgeable guest and a show of two titans (oh oh, Titans!) in the industry bantering about classic wines and the people behind the scenes as though they are part of your family which this show is all about. Great, great show. I loved it.

    QOTD: Yes, the economy has spanked California Cabs though I still buy Dominus, of course, and was lucky enough for a friend to bring over a ’97 and a ’00 last weekend as a token of our friendship. I had to give him a shoutout. Amazing gifts.

    P.S. The link above of the Diamond Creek says it’s an Australian Shiraz/Syrah. Please fix.

  • cgatesman

    I thoroughly enjoyed this two part show! Thank you, guys!

  • cgatesman

    I thoroughly enjoyed this two part show! Thank you, guys!

  • Anonymous

    That was just plain enjoyable. Thanks!

    QOTD: We don’t buy Cali cabs. We can find cabs that suit our palates and wallet elsewhere. As a matter of fact, our tasting group (Third Thirsty Thursday that happens on Fridays for the past 1 1/2 years thanks to WLTV Forums) host’s theme tomorrow is Washington wines with the third flight being a nice selection of cab blends…

  • Laurie in VT

    That was just plain enjoyable. Thanks!

    QOTD: We don’t buy Cali cabs. We can find cabs that suit our palates and wallet elsewhere. As a matter of fact, our tasting group (Third Thirsty Thursday that happens on Fridays for the past 1 1/2 years thanks to WLTV Forums) host’s theme tomorrow is Washington wines with the third flight being a nice selection of cab blends…

  • CdnCartman

    QOTD…Too pricey, aside from the odd few bottles picked up for guests that would prefer a juicy fruit bomb, i’d rather stick to value old world plays…such as rioja. hopefully i can track down some ygay in canada.
    what am i buying these days…the usual bordeaux and burgs…but will be looking at the 2007 CNDPs and the 2006 chianti classicos

  • CdnCartman

    QOTD…Too pricey, aside from the odd few bottles picked up for guests that would prefer a juicy fruit bomb, i’d rather stick to value old world plays…such as rioja. hopefully i can track down some ygay in canada.
    what am i buying these days…the usual bordeaux and burgs…but will be looking at the 2007 CNDPs and the 2006 chianti classicos

  • Joshua Greene,

    Thanks for spreading your knowledge. I loved your input and character.

    Gary,

    When you have guests of this caliber, please just assume that they will be two part episodes and go the full hour. It’ll help on your “non-editing” aspect and let them tell their story and it’ll let you do one long show and spread it over two days so you can spend more time with your wife and daughter. It’ll also cut down on the complaints of you cutting off guests to fit everything into a 30 minute show.

    Thanks again for all the show and take care.

  • Joshua Greene,

    Thanks for spreading your knowledge. I loved your input and character.

    Gary,

    When you have guests of this caliber, please just assume that they will be two part episodes and go the full hour. It’ll help on your “non-editing” aspect and let them tell their story and it’ll let you do one long show and spread it over two days so you can spend more time with your wife and daughter. It’ll also cut down on the complaints of you cutting off guests to fit everything into a 30 minute show.

    Thanks again for all the show and take care.

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