EP 778 Author and Wine Writer Michael Steinberger Visits Wine Library TV- Part 2 ? Episode #778

Concluding the interview, Gary Vaynerchuk and Michael Steinberger discuss other difficulties in the wine world…and they taste some wine!

Wines tasted in this episode:

2008 Terres Dorees Beaujolais BlancBeaujolais
2006 NapanookNapa Red Meritage

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Cheryl Henry Baker

For all his “trust your own ‘pal’ ” talk, GV cant stand it when someone else’s palate is different from his own.

Tags: Beaujolais, meritage, napa, red, review, Video, white, wine, wines

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  • nathan

    Loved the boxing Iran Barkley vs. Hands of Stone one of my favorite fights maybe yours also.

    your show is expanding my horizons on wine thank you.

  • holladown

    another fantastic show ans guest. keep it up.

    QOTD: I DO NOT DRINK and maybe never have drank NAPA!

    ‘So I dig deeper but still comin up with lint”

  • holladown

    another fantastic show ans guest. keep it up.

    QOTD: I DO NOT DRINK and maybe never have drank NAPA!

    ‘So I dig deeper but still comin up with lint”

  • holladown

    another fantastic show ans guest. keep it up.

    QOTD: I DO NOT DRINK and maybe never have drank NAPA!

    ‘So I dig deeper but still comin up with lint”

  • No, I never walk in to a wine store or grocery and ask for Napa wines. However, I have caught myself asking for wines from other wine regions. Napa lost exclusivity in regional bragging rights and must now compete on a quality by quality basis like everyone else. They (Napa) can make great wines but they need to think in terms of individuality in their wines taste, nose and value. They need to ascertain who they believe are the leaders in wine making currently and take aim at them. They must do this while making a totally different name for Napa that they can once again exhort.

  • No, I never walk in to a wine store or grocery and ask for Napa wines. However, I have caught myself asking for wines from other wine regions. Napa lost exclusivity in regional bragging rights and must now compete on a quality by quality basis like everyone else. They (Napa) can make great wines but they need to think in terms of individuality in their wines taste, nose and value. They need to ascertain who they believe are the leaders in wine making currently and take aim at them. They must do this while making a totally different name for Napa that they can once again exhort.

  • No, I never walk in to a wine store or grocery and ask for Napa wines. However, I have caught myself asking for wines from other wine regions. Napa lost exclusivity in regional bragging rights and must now compete on a quality by quality basis like everyone else. They (Napa) can make great wines but they need to think in terms of individuality in their wines taste, nose and value. They need to ascertain who they believe are the leaders in wine making currently and take aim at them. They must do this while making a totally different name for Napa that they can once again exhort.

  • holladown

    another fantastic show ans guest. keep it up.

    QOTD: I DO NOT DRINK and maybe never have drank NAPA!

    ‘So I dig deeper but still comin up with lint”

  • No, I never walk in to a wine store or grocery and ask for Napa wines. However, I have caught myself asking for wines from other wine regions. Napa lost exclusivity in regional bragging rights and must now compete on a quality by quality basis like everyone else. They (Napa) can make great wines but they need to think in terms of individuality in their wines taste, nose and value. They need to ascertain who they believe are the leaders in wine making currently and take aim at them. They must do this while making a totally different name for Napa that they can once again exhort.

  • DrEdwardo

    QOTD: when I started out in wines, in the early 80s, I was very enamoured of Napa wines. My epiphany wine was a Robert Mondavi Napa Cab (regular bottling). However, I lost interest with Napa in the mid/late 90s. They became overblown and overpriced. And still are … Even France provides *way* better QPR at all price points.

    Michael was a great guest, more than holding his own in the face of (the usual) GV’s interruptions, especially when it relates to plant suggestions of certain flavours during the tastings. Mike usually said, no I don’t taste/smell that.

    Edwardo

  • DrEdwardo

    QOTD: when I started out in wines, in the early 80s, I was very enamoured of Napa wines. My epiphany wine was a Robert Mondavi Napa Cab (regular bottling). However, I lost interest with Napa in the mid/late 90s. They became overblown and overpriced. And still are … Even France provides *way* better QPR at all price points.

    Michael was a great guest, more than holding his own in the face of (the usual) GV’s interruptions, especially when it relates to plant suggestions of certain flavours during the tastings. Mike usually said, no I don’t taste/smell that.

    Edwardo

  • DrEdwardo

    QOTD: when I started out in wines, in the early 80s, I was very enamoured of Napa wines. My epiphany wine was a Robert Mondavi Napa Cab (regular bottling). However, I lost interest with Napa in the mid/late 90s. They became overblown and overpriced. And still are … Even France provides *way* better QPR at all price points.

    Michael was a great guest, more than holding his own in the face of (the usual) GV’s interruptions, especially when it relates to plant suggestions of certain flavours during the tastings. Mike usually said, no I don’t taste/smell that.

    Edwardo

  • DrEdwardo

    QOTD: when I started out in wines, in the early 80s, I was very enamoured of Napa wines. My epiphany wine was a Robert Mondavi Napa Cab (regular bottling). However, I lost interest with Napa in the mid/late 90s. They became overblown and overpriced. And still are … Even France provides *way* better QPR at all price points.

    Michael was a great guest, more than holding his own in the face of (the usual) GV’s interruptions, especially when it relates to plant suggestions of certain flavours during the tastings. Mike usually said, no I don’t taste/smell that.

    Edwardo

  • don

    answer to question from ep 294 on fume blanc….. I want to grow tend and produce a vinyard that blows peoples faces off. Thats my passion GV

  • don

    answer to question from ep 294 on fume blanc….. I want to grow tend and produce a vinyard that blows peoples faces off. Thats my passion GV

  • don

    answer to question from ep 294 on fume blanc….. I want to grow tend and produce a vinyard that blows peoples faces off. Thats my passion GV

  • don

    answer to question from ep 294 on fume blanc….. I want to grow tend and produce a vinyard that blows peoples faces off. Thats my passion GV

  • jayhitek

    Huge boxing fan. Love the boxing chatter. Just watched the HBO documentary Assault in the Ring. It was excellent.
    QOTD: Love Napa. No idea what I started with though. I probably just started with “wine”.

  • jayhitek

    Huge boxing fan. Love the boxing chatter. Just watched the HBO documentary Assault in the Ring. It was excellent.
    QOTD: Love Napa. No idea what I started with though. I probably just started with “wine”.

  • jayhitek

    Huge boxing fan. Love the boxing chatter. Just watched the HBO documentary Assault in the Ring. It was excellent.
    QOTD: Love Napa. No idea what I started with though. I probably just started with “wine”.

  • jayhitek

    Huge boxing fan. Love the boxing chatter. Just watched the HBO documentary Assault in the Ring. It was excellent.
    QOTD: Love Napa. No idea what I started with though. I probably just started with “wine”.

  • jayhitek

    Huge boxing fan. Love the boxing chatter. Just watched the HBO documentary Assault in the Ring. It was excellent.
    QOTD: Love Napa. No idea what I started with though. I probably just started with “wine”.

  • I started out with French wines and they are still my go to. I don’t pick wines by region but by grape or by my own taste so I never would have gone to a store and said bring me a Napa wine (a fresh wine none of those old ones!). That being said, I still like to go to Napa and taste but I certainly have seen the issue that you both brought up. We went to Jarvis winery last year. What an overblown piece of crap with very expensive pretentious wines that tasted like stewed prunes but they paid a boatload for the place and paid a boatload to develop it and only a little on making good wine.

    I did not get candy out of the Napanook either so I’m with Michael on that. Enjoyed the episode and the boxing references more than the football ones for me.

  • I started out with French wines and they are still my go to. I don’t pick wines by region but by grape or by my own taste so I never would have gone to a store and said bring me a Napa wine (a fresh wine none of those old ones!). That being said, I still like to go to Napa and taste but I certainly have seen the issue that you both brought up. We went to Jarvis winery last year. What an overblown piece of crap with very expensive pretentious wines that tasted like stewed prunes but they paid a boatload for the place and paid a boatload to develop it and only a little on making good wine.

    I did not get candy out of the Napanook either so I’m with Michael on that. Enjoyed the episode and the boxing references more than the football ones for me.

  • I started out with French wines and they are still my go to. I don’t pick wines by region but by grape or by my own taste so I never would have gone to a store and said bring me a Napa wine (a fresh wine none of those old ones!). That being said, I still like to go to Napa and taste but I certainly have seen the issue that you both brought up. We went to Jarvis winery last year. What an overblown piece of crap with very expensive pretentious wines that tasted like stewed prunes but they paid a boatload for the place and paid a boatload to develop it and only a little on making good wine.

    I did not get candy out of the Napanook either so I’m with Michael on that. Enjoyed the episode and the boxing references more than the football ones for me.

  • I started out with French wines and they are still my go to. I don’t pick wines by region but by grape or by my own taste so I never would have gone to a store and said bring me a Napa wine (a fresh wine none of those old ones!). That being said, I still like to go to Napa and taste but I certainly have seen the issue that you both brought up. We went to Jarvis winery last year. What an overblown piece of crap with very expensive pretentious wines that tasted like stewed prunes but they paid a boatload for the place and paid a boatload to develop it and only a little on making good wine.

    I did not get candy out of the Napanook either so I’m with Michael on that. Enjoyed the episode and the boxing references more than the football ones for me.

  • victor

    Started with Sonoma, been to Napa, found Napa overpriced, pretentious, snobby. Nothing has come close to Walla Walla for taste, value, approachability. NOTHING.nowhere. no how…Don’t get me wrong – if price were NOT a determining factor, Napa spoils some pretty good grape juice.

  • victor

    Started with Sonoma, been to Napa, found Napa overpriced, pretentious, snobby. Nothing has come close to Walla Walla for taste, value, approachability. NOTHING.nowhere. no how…Don’t get me wrong – if price were NOT a determining factor, Napa spoils some pretty good grape juice.

  • victor

    Started with Sonoma, been to Napa, found Napa overpriced, pretentious, snobby. Nothing has come close to Walla Walla for taste, value, approachability. NOTHING.nowhere. no how…Don’t get me wrong – if price were NOT a determining factor, Napa spoils some pretty good grape juice.

  • victor

    Started with Sonoma, been to Napa, found Napa overpriced, pretentious, snobby. Nothing has come close to Walla Walla for taste, value, approachability. NOTHING.nowhere. no how…Don’t get me wrong – if price were NOT a determining factor, Napa spoils some pretty good grape juice.

  • victor

    Started with Sonoma, been to Napa, found Napa overpriced, pretentious, snobby. Nothing has come close to Walla Walla for taste, value, approachability. NOTHING.nowhere. no how…Don’t get me wrong – if price were NOT a determining factor, Napa spoils some pretty good grape juice.

  • John__J

    qotd: didnt start on napa’s. dont go into a store asking for napa’s. there are some really good napa’s out there. but they are usually overpriced and there’s a whole world of wine with many dynamite q.p.r.’s in some of those regions.

    I agree with you Gary about the jean-pual brun. I’ve had the past 3 vintages and I’ve definitely gotten that butter, hint of wood, expect a larger body thing. The ’05 or ’06 even had a little butter popcorn going on. They’ve printed chardonnay on the label at least since then too. Although I like it more than you. It’s not really complex, but a chard at that price from burgundy has the q.p.r. that Michael spoke of. Love that you want people to try new things, having a vin jaune on the show would definitely be something different

  • John__J

    qotd: didnt start on napa’s. dont go into a store asking for napa’s. there are some really good napa’s out there. but they are usually overpriced and there’s a whole world of wine with many dynamite q.p.r.’s in some of those regions.

    I agree with you Gary about the jean-pual brun. I’ve had the past 3 vintages and I’ve definitely gotten that butter, hint of wood, expect a larger body thing. The ’05 or ’06 even had a little butter popcorn going on. They’ve printed chardonnay on the label at least since then too. Although I like it more than you. It’s not really complex, but a chard at that price from burgundy has the q.p.r. that Michael spoke of. Love that you want people to try new things, having a vin jaune on the show would definitely be something different

  • John__J

    qotd: didnt start on napa’s. dont go into a store asking for napa’s. there are some really good napa’s out there. but they are usually overpriced and there’s a whole world of wine with many dynamite q.p.r.’s in some of those regions.

    I agree with you Gary about the jean-pual brun. I’ve had the past 3 vintages and I’ve definitely gotten that butter, hint of wood, expect a larger body thing. The ’05 or ’06 even had a little butter popcorn going on. They’ve printed chardonnay on the label at least since then too. Although I like it more than you. It’s not really complex, but a chard at that price from burgundy has the q.p.r. that Michael spoke of. Love that you want people to try new things, having a vin jaune on the show would definitely be something different

  • John__J

    qotd: didnt start on napa’s. dont go into a store asking for napa’s. there are some really good napa’s out there. but they are usually overpriced and there’s a whole world of wine with many dynamite q.p.r.’s in some of those regions.

    I agree with you Gary about the jean-pual brun. I’ve had the past 3 vintages and I’ve definitely gotten that butter, hint of wood, expect a larger body thing. The ’05 or ’06 even had a little butter popcorn going on. They’ve printed chardonnay on the label at least since then too. Although I like it more than you. It’s not really complex, but a chard at that price from burgundy has the q.p.r. that Michael spoke of. Love that you want people to try new things, having a vin jaune on the show would definitely be something different

  • Anonymous

    Started with New Zealand when I was studying abroad there. Still yet to try a Napa cab, although there’s a Stag’s Leap sitting in my cabinet right now.

    Btw, what’s with all the hate for the new world? As someone who is still fairly new to the wine game (I’m only 21, after all), I feel like although there is value to be had in France, it’s much more of a gamble, because there’s a lot of cheap crappy French wine along with the cheap good stuff. The new world often feels a little more approachable if I don’t know specifically what I want, and I can generally identify good value on the shelf.

  • Anonymous

    Started with New Zealand when I was studying abroad there. Still yet to try a Napa cab, although there’s a Stag’s Leap sitting in my cabinet right now.

    Btw, what’s with all the hate for the new world? As someone who is still fairly new to the wine game (I’m only 21, after all), I feel like although there is value to be had in France, it’s much more of a gamble, because there’s a lot of cheap crappy French wine along with the cheap good stuff. The new world often feels a little more approachable if I don’t know specifically what I want, and I can generally identify good value on the shelf.

  • Anonymous

    Started with New Zealand when I was studying abroad there. Still yet to try a Napa cab, although there’s a Stag’s Leap sitting in my cabinet right now.

    Btw, what’s with all the hate for the new world? As someone who is still fairly new to the wine game (I’m only 21, after all), I feel like although there is value to be had in France, it’s much more of a gamble, because there’s a lot of cheap crappy French wine along with the cheap good stuff. The new world often feels a little more approachable if I don’t know specifically what I want, and I can generally identify good value on the shelf.

  • Anonymous

    Started with New Zealand when I was studying abroad there. Still yet to try a Napa cab, although there’s a Stag’s Leap sitting in my cabinet right now.

    Btw, what’s with all the hate for the new world? As someone who is still fairly new to the wine game (I’m only 21, after all), I feel like although there is value to be had in France, it’s much more of a gamble, because there’s a lot of cheap crappy French wine along with the cheap good stuff. The new world often feels a little more approachable if I don’t know specifically what I want, and I can generally identify good value on the shelf.

  • John J.

    qotd: didnt start on napa’s. dont go into a store asking for napa’s. there are some really good napa’s out there. but they are usually overpriced and there’s a whole world of wine with many dynamite q.p.r.’s in some of those regions.

    I agree with you Gary about the jean-pual brun. I’ve had the past 3 vintages and I’ve definitely gotten that butter, hint of wood, expect a larger body thing. The ’05 or ’06 even had a little butter popcorn going on. They’ve printed chardonnay on the label at least since then too. Although I like it more than you. It’s not really complex, but a chard at that price from burgundy has the q.p.r. that Michael spoke of. Love that you want people to try new things, having a vin jaune on the show would definitely be something different

  • Charlie H.

    Started with New Zealand when I was studying abroad there. Still yet to try a Napa cab, although there’s a Stag’s Leap sitting in my cabinet right now.

    Btw, what’s with all the hate for the new world? As someone who is still fairly new to the wine game (I’m only 21, after all), I feel like although there is value to be had in France, it’s much more of a gamble, because there’s a lot of cheap crappy French wine along with the cheap good stuff. The new world often feels a little more approachable if I don’t know specifically what I want, and I can generally identify good value on the shelf.

  • JustinK

    THE best guest ever in WLtv….

  • JustinK

    THE best guest ever in WLtv….

  • JustinK

    THE best guest ever in WLtv….

  • JustinK

    THE best guest ever in WLtv….

  • JustinK

    THE best guest ever in WLtv….

  • Robin C

    I think that I would like the deer hit by a car references better than the boxing references.
    I don’t drink champagne that much outside of celebrations, but that’s mostly because there are no champagne drinkers in my circle of family and friends. I wonder how well champagne would sell as an everyday drink; it’s certainly worth a try. Maybe with a different packaging such as the cans of sparkling that one sees.
    QOTD: I probably started with Napa wines (after my Reunite and Cold Duck phase). I follow the good reports though. I’m liking Spain a lot now. There are good wines pretty much everywhere. Napa is awfully expensive. You can get great wines in Spain for half the price.

  • Robin C

    I think that I would like the deer hit by a car references better than the boxing references.
    I don’t drink champagne that much outside of celebrations, but that’s mostly because there are no champagne drinkers in my circle of family and friends. I wonder how well champagne would sell as an everyday drink; it’s certainly worth a try. Maybe with a different packaging such as the cans of sparkling that one sees.
    QOTD: I probably started with Napa wines (after my Reunite and Cold Duck phase). I follow the good reports though. I’m liking Spain a lot now. There are good wines pretty much everywhere. Napa is awfully expensive. You can get great wines in Spain for half the price.

  • Robin C

    I think that I would like the deer hit by a car references better than the boxing references.
    I don’t drink champagne that much outside of celebrations, but that’s mostly because there are no champagne drinkers in my circle of family and friends. I wonder how well champagne would sell as an everyday drink; it’s certainly worth a try. Maybe with a different packaging such as the cans of sparkling that one sees.
    QOTD: I probably started with Napa wines (after my Reunite and Cold Duck phase). I follow the good reports though. I’m liking Spain a lot now. There are good wines pretty much everywhere. Napa is awfully expensive. You can get great wines in Spain for half the price.

  • Robin C

    I think that I would like the deer hit by a car references better than the boxing references.
    I don’t drink champagne that much outside of celebrations, but that’s mostly because there are no champagne drinkers in my circle of family and friends. I wonder how well champagne would sell as an everyday drink; it’s certainly worth a try. Maybe with a different packaging such as the cans of sparkling that one sees.
    QOTD: I probably started with Napa wines (after my Reunite and Cold Duck phase). I follow the good reports though. I’m liking Spain a lot now. There are good wines pretty much everywhere. Napa is awfully expensive. You can get great wines in Spain for half the price.

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