EP 865 Laid Back Friday with a Vin Jaune

Gary Vaynerchuk is back on the couch for a Laid Back Friday with a very interesting wine, Vin Jaune. This wine is made from 100% Savagnin and aged for 6 years under a veil of yeast.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2000 Berthet Bondet Chateau Chalon Vin JauneJura

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line of the day, -‘These wines are massively Nerd City USA’

A rare wine and a rare appearance from Mr Mott, who bounces onto the couch for the first time in ages

Tags: review, Video, Vin Jaune, white, wine, wines

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  • Randall

    Bottle says – “In 1988 we planted these varieties in a 4.5 acre vineyard next to our winery.” yadda “handmade” yadda “old world techniques” yadda “small oak barrels”
    After it opened up it really wasn't all that bad. I'm not a huge nerd on ports, but I like the better ones. Too bad they don't like my wallet…

  • Very yellow. Auto body shop?? Goodyear or Click and Clack?Way to go, Bret M. Cleb App.
    QOTD-Cab for sure, with some Grilled Salmon Salad of Love
    2 tablespoons soy sauce
    1 tablespoon honey
    1 tablespoon lemon juice
    Zest of 1 lemon
    1/4 teaspoon ground ginger
    4 5 ounce (150 g) skinless salmon fillets
    Lemon Dressing:
    1 tablespoon lemon juice
    1 tablespoon olive oil
    1 tablespoon white wine vinegar
    1/8 teaspoon sugar
    Salt and pepper to taste

    3 cups baby spinach
    1 ripe avocado, peeled, pitted, diced
    1 ripe mango, peeled, pitted, diced
    2 tablespoons finely chopped red onion
    2 tablespoons capers

  • cellarrat5

    Yup, “Micro” brew from Chico, CA. It is too big to be considered a micro brew now, but it still one of the most consistant producers of good beer at a somewhat larger volume. They have over 16 diff. types of beer, thier Pale ale just scratches the surface.

  • cellarrat5

    Yeah, unfortunately most of the good ports out there are not cheep. But the turnover on any decent port is at the least twice as long as your average table wine. We age our Vintage for about a year or so blend it and age it another two years before we barrel taste through them all. And Tawnys are even more laborious. That in conjunction with blending and the storage space all the ports take up equals no bueno for wallets everywhere.

  • Randall

    Also, doesn't CA put taxes on it each year that the juice is held and not sold? Counted as inventory, even though it is still in the process of being produced?
    btw Your website is truly a work in progress, so would you mind letting me know how much $$ for some of the ports there… any of them except for the top shelf ones, I know I can't afford those… oh yeah, and stills (Zins, etc.)

  • “auto body shop tire thing”… ha ha… love it.

  • JR

    is mott a reasonable taster?

  • slushpuppy

    Mott is not that crazy for wine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • waynooo


  • waynooo

    I think the Vino is growin' on the MOTTSTER !!!!!!!!

  • Cool_Dave

    Hey Kyle, I will be in Dunedin Florida in September. Any good wine shops you know of in that area. Or Tampa near the International Mall.

  • cellarrat5

    are you a reasonable poster???????????

  • Randall

    Pinot! Pinot!! Pinot!!! Pinot!!!!

  • Don Simpson

    I've had a white wine from Jura but it wasnt the vin jaune.

    QOTD: Drank a really nice Cotes du Roussillon at a BBQ on Saturday. Focused and cran raspberry on the palate. Cranberry and raspberry but I just wanted to call it cran raspberry because Ocean Spray had taken over the wine. Quite tasty.

  • teckdeck2008

    Interesting… if it wasn't $100 I would love to try it because I love a good challenge lol. Seriously though, I'll search out something like it if I get a chance.
    Qotd: Well I had a couple glasses of Irony chard '08 with some goat cheese. not bad pairing but the wine itself left something to be desired. on sunday I had a couple glasses of ass kisser shiraz…not as bad as it sounds.

  • Do you ever find that a wine you didn't like (like the Vin Jaune for instance), became better when paired with food? Or is your palate so trained that you can tell without food?

  • angelatcarslon

    Fun nerdy stuff, yeah!

    QOTD: My brother & I went to Thomas Fogerty & Ridge this weekend to help educate his palate and try yummy expensive wines (at Ridge) for $5. : ) At Thomas Fogerty we picked up 4 of the 2008 Dry Gewurztraminer that is double-thumbs up @$14 on sale.
    I also took him to my local wine bar for a glass of Pinot and some cheese. So fun!

  • joshuastreeter

    QOTD-IDK. It's hot and there's an outdoor music fest on the Bay here…and I'll be on a bike. AND they might not allow carry ins. In that case, WATER. Life is too short to drink crappy $5 beers from a stand, no matter what scenario.

    If I can carry something in, I'll bring my new favorite $14 Prosecco. Bosco del Merlo

    Simple, but not too simple. It's got enough character, but not so much that I'd have to analyze it. I'd call it FUN! And totally lovable; it's the Cameron Diaz of sparkling.


    LoL- after last nights wine orgy I think Tuesday will need to give the liver a rest

  • zanne_70

    Love when you get your nerd on! And I totally agree that the wines from Jura are too unknown. I am a big fan of vin jaune although I rarely buy it but then again, I'm also a dry sherry lover so there has to be a connection.

    Mott – stay on the couch next time! Always fun to see you and hear what you've got to say!

  • mattyM

    too much, that's what I drank…

  • DCaragher

    GV – Sweet show…it's amazing, I am always learning, never even heard of that style of wine! Thanks for keeping the knowledge pumping!

    QOTD: Over the weekend I drank Knob Creek Bourbon and a lot of water (went hiking)!

  • Mike

    In celebration of my first Mott spotting, a devout lurker will make my first post. Love the show!

  • been flat out still…catching up…
    we love you too GV. Keep pumping them.
    Wish I could make it down to the party…who knows.
    This show should make some folks really happy, they have been waiting for it.
    Have a handful of bottles in the cellar that were brought back from the source…some vin de paille as well.
    Iteresting response from Mott…and he shows up too…AWESOME!
    The Vin Jaune are challenging wines…but worth the experience.
    The briny quality of the wine makes sense with the uni…if one likes uni. That's a hell of a combo!
    QOTD: whoops too late the weekend is gone…tasted some cold hardy whites, a couple of Tokaiji, and our home made carmenere 2009.

  • redrider21

    Brother is visiting LA, taking him to my favorite sushi spot, the original Katsu-ya in Studio City. What wine pairing do you recommend? I was thinking a Gruner Veltliner.


  • INteresting wine, but as you said, too expensive for my palette.

    QOTD: Nothing really planned, but possibly a cali Zin, that supposedly isnt a jammed up version of Zin.


  • lawrenceleichtman

    I had a small taste of Vin Jaune, not this producer at a commercial tasting. I had trouble getting it down my mouth at all. We are drinking up the wines in our cabinet because we are in the process of moving (farther away from Wine Library) so it is whatever hasn't already been moved to a much smaller cabinet. It is hard to go from 250 bottle cabinet to 50.

  • TommyB

    QOTD: probably a sparkling wine from Plumpton, England called “the dean” – 96% Pinot Noir, 4% Chardonnay made from the very college I am studying at! It's really good – I'm taking it to a Christening where I'm gonna be a Godfather – need to celebrate with some bubbly!! I'm a proud man…

  • I noticed the bottle size right off, they look cool but won't fit in the racks to well…:-) And based on some research and your review, they won't be in the cellar soon! Your 87 seemed generous!

    QOTD: Lot's of wine with friends!

  • justinstewartiu

    I love the laid back Friday couch. Too bad this wine didn't turn out better. It was great to get Mott on the show again. I still think the Mott cam is an awesome idea. Or even the Mott episode where he can taste some wines of his choice.

    QOTD: I'm from Indianapolis, and this weekend is The Indianapolis 500… I hate to admit this, but I will be drinking Tall-boy Bud Light's this weekend. Nothing like hanging with 350,000 other people all drinking American (The Big 3) beers.

  • justinstewartiu

    comments like this need the “dislike” button

  • Weston3220

    qotd: maybe a hunter valley semillon and try and find a cheapie Chianti

  • Nik_B

    Never tried a vin jaune before.. not sure I would be rushing to try one now.

    QOTD: coffee, wine, coffee, wine, gin

  • JayZee13

    I have to admit, I've never even heard of this wine let alone tasted it. Very nerdy. Unfortunately, not too impressive either.

    QOTD: Well, that would be last weekend for me. Hmm. Oh, yeah, we ate our local French bistro on Saturday night and we had a nice 1999 Bordeaux from the Medoc. It was a minor Chateau, but it was decent wine. It was our 11th anniversary, so the 1999 vintage was particularly cool. For dessert, we had some “home-made” liquour made by the late friend of the proprietor and it was very cool that he shared it with us. Also had some Calvados with dessert. Sunday we had a bottle of 2001 Matthews Claret from Washington State – very nice and smooth but still with a lot of life.

  • Mike in C-town

    Like JayZee, I am behind – so for me it was last weekend. I had a Di Majo Norante Ramitello 2004 (Molise IGT). Blend of sangiovese and aglianico.

  • Mike in C-town

    Loved seeing the battle for release between Mott and the couch. Thankful Mott prevailed.

  • David M Roberts

    Really informative show – Highlighting an “esoteric” choice like vin jaune helps us peeps so we have a better feel for what we might be getting into with that $100 bottle purchase… and yes! funny moment between Mott and the couch… the gravitational pull of the sofa almost pulled him in like a tractor beam.

  • laurieinvt

    just as reasonable as any of us watching and/or posting…..

  • laurieinvt

    Isn't Budweiser owned by a European company now?….

  • justinstewartiu

    yeah it is, but they left the beer alone. So it is still the “American Stye”.

  • Pierre

    Vin Jaune is quite special
    I believe you really enjoy it with food related from the jura or food with vin jaune in it
    like comté cheese and nuts or things with a creamy sauce and vin jaune in it (chicken with morilles for example).
    Drank alone, to me, its just too strong and strange..
    QOTD: dont remember what I drank last weekend.. maybe was just too much.. swiss wine for me tonight..

  • Anonymous

    White pinot noir is actually rose colored. The grape juice and skins come in contact a fraction of the amount of time for “regular” pinot noir. Flavors that come through are citrus, melon, minerality, some green-ness, etc. J.K. Carriere makes one of my favorite called “Glass.” Domaine Drouhin does another one called Rose that is also very good, but a little more plump and higher ABV. Worth checking out, but you’ll likely have to get them direct. Agreed, white zin, white merlot and the lot are not cleared for landing, especially if they have a critter on them. Major wave-off.

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  • luca bercelli


    line of the day, -‘These wines are massively Nerd City USA’

    A rare wine and a rare appearance from Mr Mott, who bounces onto the couch for the first time in ages


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