EP 945 Blind Zinfandel Tasting

With Thanksgiving around the corner, Gary Vaynerchuk blind tastes four bottles of Zinfandel at a variety of price points.

Wines tasted in this episode:

Bogle ZinfandelCalifornia Red Zinfandel
2008 Seghesio Sonoma ZinfandelSonoma Red Zinfandel
2006 Louis Martini Monte Rosso Zinfandel Gnarly VinesNapa Red Zinfandel
2007 Outpost Zinfandel Howell MountainNapa Red Zinfandel


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Tags: california, napa, review, Sonoma, wine, wines, zinfandel

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  • JustAFullerWine

    My palate is gravitating toward stinky Bordeaux style right now. Kinda burned out on sauvignon blanc and especially chardonnay. So right now, red blends get my blood pumping.

  • QOTD; My palate, my taste, wanting well made wines.

  • QOTD; My palate, my taste, wanting well made wines.

  • Anonymous

    Wonderful show Gary, you really bring a lot of fun to wine. Thanks for the great episode sir!

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: I have backed off the huge jammmy overcooked Aussie Shiraz, but I still love a big Zin. I am pleased you mentioned the Black Chicken! Biale is one of my favorite Zin producers along with Carlisle. I am drinking a lot of CA syrah now due to prices. CA Cab is still my first love, but the ones I loved have left me behind for guys with more money. Sigh…

  • John__J

    French Cabernet Franc’s are Perfect for more veggie characteristics. Chinon, Bourgueil, St.-Nicholas-de-Bourgueil and Saumur-Champigny are all appellations in France’s Loire Valley that are mainly if not completely Cab Franc. Chinon tends to be the easiest to find by far, and along with Saumur-Champigny is my fav. (Saumur-Champigny tends to have a higher % of Cab Sauv in the blend usually, and thus may have less of the veggie quality you’re looking for.)

  • John__J

    Dinosaur Jr. is a great band

  • James hill

    headed away from large, high alcohol aussies and anything similar. agree with rajat parr about what wine should be.had a bottle of jadot beaujolais village 2009 today that seems to fit his thinking and mine.try to find the delicious factor without being overwhelming.

  • Alexandre-CF

    nice show Gary, you r on fire dude.

    QOTD: My palate is changing a lot lately, i was really in the Cru Beaujolais for last 2 or 3 months now i´m seeking for the mineral stuff, Loire style

  • Garethbest

    Just learning more about French wines, and have fallen for the terroir driven Rhone( Chateau Bila Haut, Perrin and Fils Vinsobres, etc) at around the $15 to $25 mark over some of the huge overly “gloppy” WA wines of my homestate. I love a lot of them still, but I think I’m growing to like earthier, more subtle wines that bring the funk. How ’bout another show on Big Bang for the Buck wines? I’ve had some killers lately for $12 to $15.

  • DaveAll

    another good one. wow, 945 episodes I’ve watched and you still have new styles – drawing a boat was GREAT! ha. Use a black marker, so we can see it!

    QotD: i refound Cab Sauv, after a long departure.

  • Dill

    Nice show Gary. Where my palette is concerned, I’ve got a real problem. It’s moving away from the big wines to the more traditional, terroir driven wines of the left bank. The problem, of course, is that the price of Bordeaux is soaring!

  • Vanhern

    Long time lurker.. have really enjoyed the shows lately. I think the guests have been great. Just an idea but how about having some growers on the show…..as they say, all great wine starts in the vineyard. Farmer Jim

  • Fturina

    QOTD: Where’s my palate these days? I’ve been big into Zin lately. I just love them right now. Especially liked the Four Vines Biker and the Sophisticate.

  • QOTD – Reisling, especially from Germany. Starting to come back to Zin after the last couple of years and continue to enjoy good bordeaux style blends. And sparkling….

  • It’s been a long time since I’ve had a Zinfandel.

    QOTD: interesting question, I am still experimenting and a thing I do like are grand tannic wines, mainly Spain, Argentina and Mexico but my all time favorites are Bordeaux and Médoc, and mostly red, although I’ve been gravitating towards rosé and sparkling in the last three years or so, also sweet wines as well (late harvest, ice wine and sherry) oh, and Tequila. I really don’t have a specific taste profile as I am constantly buying new wines (new for my palate) and spirits like Pastis, Sake, Calvados etc. Getting my bearings still, I guess…

  • Another awesome episode – a lurker, coming out because you asked, to answer the QOTD:

    Every since seeing the Bogle Petite Syrah show my pallet has been chasing after those bolder less expensive reds. (my corked reviews are all wines under (or around) 10 bones).

    Believe it or not, just picked up a case of Bogle Zin at the local store because it was priced just right, then saw it here again on todays show. Nice.

    Also a big fan of Cleavage Creek 06 PS that is sooooo worth the price these days.

  • Anonymous

    LOL!

  • Lou S

    2006 Pedroncelli Zinfandel, 2007 Patassay Vineyards Pinot Noir, 2007 Shadowood Cab.
    Enjoying all 3 of these recent acquisitions.

  • greens&grapes

    Nice- 4 blind- the Bogle is one of our fav’s-QOTD- hmm, so much depends on fd/occasion – white zins and most pinot grigios have lonf ago fallen away- a dry riesling may surprise me. Reds still rock and bubbles always make me smile– WL has shown a whole new range-Thanks GV-greens&grapes

  • Anonymous

    Great show Gary!

    QOTD: Still into French and Italian lower alcohol, terroir driven wines. Still not bored with Loire Cab Franc, Cru Beaujolais, Bordeaux or Rhone. Especially loving everything in N. Rhone, but affordability is an issue. There is only so much Crozes and St Joseph I can find! Burgundy is so pricey that those under $25/bottle tend to get a little boring sometimes.

    Recently been delving into Southern Italian Red’s. Very much under appreciated and their price point reflects that. Am eager to learn more about them.

  • WineWoman

    QOTD: Not liking the huge Aussie wines for quite some time, leaning towards all French reds, always loved Loire whites. Am faithful to my Zin, gave it a slight rest during a Pinot phase. Enjoy the bubbly, especially the Rose’s. Don’t drink much wine from Chile, Argentina, limited Spain, Italy–Brunello and Amarone, presently light on the Chianti. Select producer’s from Portugal. American meritage’s more than straight Cab. Am a fan of Oregon and Washington.

  • Don Simpson

    SOTUOMP (State of The Union Of My Palate): Not digging the Chardonnay (except blancs de blancs). Not digging overpriced CA wines. Not digging bombastic over extracted reds so I’ve been steering clear of NZ and Australia. Crushing sparkling wine. Crushing Loire whites. Crushing Italian whites. Crushing Rhone reds (particularly Cotes du Rhone and Gigondas).

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: Craving acid, dissing oak and high residual sugar

  • Anonymous

    I agree with your assessment of these wines. We love the Seghesio and often buy the Bogle Petite Syrah and Zin (good value!). QOTD: We used to drink the bigger, oakier CA red wines but enjoy the Italian and French reds more these days. (We drank so much of the Dancing Bull zin a few years back I can’t even look at it anymore!)

  • Riz70nd

    Really liked this episode! QOTD: I’m not liking New Zealand Sav Blancs, new world Chardonnays and Chiantis as much at the moment. I am very much into Rieslings (especially from the Finger Lakes), Cab Francs from almost anywhere, Dry Creek Zins, Cru Beaujolais and Gewurztraminer. I especially like the acidity/fruit balance in Rieslings and the 2009 Cru Beaujolais’ drinkability (sorry Bud Light).

  • Vasco

    Leaving the fruit bombs behind (they were a good gateway) and becoming obsessed with the barnyard. As usual, great content Gary. Thanks!

  • Edward Salonia

    GV… Is there a Thanksgiving secret pack on the horizon? ::nudge nudge::

  • Violetruby

    Thanks for the rec Dominus! I’ll check it out.

  • Lately most of the wines I’ve got are ones that I realize that they are well made, or have cool subtleties, but really don’t taste that good. Are intriguing, or interesting for a sip or 2 but other than that don’t do much. I feel like I should just go out and have a few fruit bombs

  • Anonymous

    Always love to the see the brown bags, Gary! They tend to make for my favorite shows.

    QOTD: lately down on Cabs and Chards, up on Viognier and Gewurtz for whites, and Syrahs, Mourveds, Grenache, and Cab Franc for reds. You’re slowly turning me old world!!!

  • BuffaloLou

    Nice show GV! Loved the fact that you did Zin! So… when we gonna see Zin on CW?!!

  • Anonymous

    This is one place where I just disagree with Gary. I certainly appreciate the nuance which subtler wines have over their bigger brothers, but for my palate, nine times out of ten I’m going with the goop. Although, I should say that I always like to finish a special dinner with something more calm and Old World, since at the end of the evening the sweetness and intensity of a big California Zin or Cab is just going to make you feel sick.Gary, if you’re still serious about doing beer more regularly on the show, why don’t you see if this trend with your palate holds true across different beverages? Take a couple of very good but less intense American stouts (say, Sierra Nevada’s and Rogue’s Chocolate Stout) and see if you prefer them over some big Russian Imperial Stouts (maybe Old Rasputin and Bourbon County). Also, look into having Sam Calagione as a guest!

  • Mariobnskn

    Alsace whites, German/Austrian Riesling, Geverts, Pinot and cool climate Syrah.

  • scottEJ

    Nice brown bags. I wish you had the ’07 Seghesio in place of that bomby ’08. Two very different wines.

    QOTD: I’m in a place of complexity, ballance, and interesting factor over power, big fruit, & reputation.

  • KAHUNA

    QOTD: My Pal likes da taint

  • KAHUNA

    Zins have crossed the line in the last few year to a bigger style- I like big wines so I would like to two bigger zins but I also love the classic zin profile. They have done the same thing with my beloved Petite Sirah in terms of bringing the fruit out much more and making the tanin fade a little- some are really nice but I like the older profile better

  • KAHUNA

    GVaM

  • I’ve been loving the fruit bomb since it turned me on to red wine 10 yrs. ago. I don’t drink more than two different wines/week unless there is a dinner party so I don’t grow tired of the big wine.

    That being said I do like the fashion of exploring cooler climates and lower alc. wines as long as flavor isn’t sacrificed. I’ve evolved to like more acid and complexity and love nuance even though with a bomb crammed to the gills with fruit there isn’t as much room for nuance. Can I have both? I am seeking.

    Quilceda Creek has delivered the goods at a reasonable price point in their columbia valley red. I think Cahors is underrated and Bordeaux overrated. I do appreciate Burgundy especially if there is fruit character to go with the complexity and structure. The Rion Vosne Romanee villages can be outstanding without breaking the bank. I do think that the Niagara region (big ups to Canada!) is producing the most old world of the new world wine regions – terroir and minerality. Marynissen for the $ is tough to beat and Lailey has the richness to go with the class.

    Nice show GV, I’ve had a few old vine Sierra foothill zins that have soul and value. Perhaps Murph will throw one in next time!

  • Anonymous

    I’ve really enjoyed the Ridge zins. More restrained and subtle than a lot of what comes out of Cali these days. I’m all up in the old world right now. Piedmont and Tuscany, Burgundy (splurged on a great Vosne Romanee the other day), Chateauneuf du Pape (the spicier, earthier style), and Toro. Also, went to a fantastic Israeli wine tasting last weekend and was totally blown away.

  • Honor808

    QOTD: It’s been getting a bit chilly (even in Hawaii), so I’ve been whipping out ports to sip after dinner and before bed. Specifically, sultry, sexy red ports with a hint of naughtiness from spice.

  • Anonymous

    Love the brown bags…nice simple show!
    QOTD: Lovin’ North Coast Cali Pinots…can’t get enough right now…Freestone, Papapietro, Lynmar! Down on Cali Cabs lately. Today’s show has got me itchin’ for some Zin…it’s been awhile.

  • mcheyms

    Great show, I have been watching for a long time but this is my first post. QOTD: Right now I really am just trying to expand my palate because I am fairly new, but I have been trying more cabs recently and have enjoyed them.

  • Great show.
    I LOL’d at your look at the camera after “Sometimes, money can’t buy you class.”
    Interesting that you picked the Seghesio: somebody (LA Times, maybe?) tasted 10 zins
    in the last month or so and it finished first in that tasting.

  • Anonymous

    +1

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: I’ve been enjoying wines that offer a new world-old world mix; Rioja, RdD from Spain & the Southern Rhone are all good plays for me right now. Though I just had the Three Miners PN from ep 56(?) & loved it, so I may have to start trying more PN be it from NZ, Burgundy or Oregon. As far as whites, like you the more acidic the better. Though I’m starting to lose interest in SB. I also can’t stand any oak at all in my whites, which takes out most Chardonnays and ‘fume’ blanc. Throwing out a little GourmetLibrary love, from a cheese standpoint I’m 100% Manchego & Cheddar, little else.

  • Anonymous

    Homey…. I am so beat it’s not even funny. I have been building my wine cellar for 8 hours…and I didn’t even do much my friend Kevin who I told you turned me onto your show years ago….which by the way was 3 not 2….helped me and did most of the work. We had a bottle of a wine from Spain I picked up at your place 2 days ago and we took our time but my back and my hip are killing me. So much pain!!!!!
    QOTD: My palate hmmmmm…. lets just say I like wines now I never drank 3-5 years ago. With me it’s big & juicy….but I like Zins, Pinot, Syrah’s, Cabs and a good champagne every once in a while. I would love to try a wine that blows me away….what do you suggest? I need something really good…. in the $50-$100 range.

  • Anonymous

    QOTD:

    State of the Palate:

    Right now I find myself really gravitating to southern France and northern Italy. I’ve been checking out the Languedoc, Madiran, different parts of the Rhone Valley and hanging around Piemonte, Veneto, and dabbling in Sardegna. I’m find myself gravitating more towards the leathery, gamey, peppery flavors lately than the big fruit driven wines that seem to be more popular.

    I would really love to see an episode on German wine, a subject I don’t know a whole lot about. Try and sneak some German wine in to the Thundershow over the next couple of weeks, I’d appreciate it!

  • Anonymous

    As I mentioned a few weeks ago, if you’re looking for the N. Rhone style but Cote Rotie/Hermitage scares your wallet, check out the Syrahs from Washington. K Vinters (Charles Smith) produces some value-driven examples (The Deal, M.C.K.) which fall in the $30-35 range; also try Grand Reve (Collaboration II), Harlequin (Sundan Vyd.), Waters Winery (almost any)…the list goes on, but these are the ones I’ve tried of late – all rich and fruity but balanced and complex. None were over $40 and most were $28-35. New Zealand makes a few outstanding Rhone Rangers but typically for more scratch. Good luck.

  • You know how I love the bags!! Great show!

    QOTD: My palate is currently shying away from the deep, dark, fruit bombs and is in search of acid, rocks, some veg and complexity. I still like a nice side of fruit, I’m a California boy after all, but that can’t be the main course. Most recent wines hitting me square are the Rochioli Estate Chard and Pinot!

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