EP 979 Blind Tasting Chianti

Gary Vaynerchuk blind tastes 3 different Chiantis with some interesting results.

Wines tasted in this episode:

Carpineto Chianti ClassicoChianti Classico
2007 Felsina Chianti Classico RiservaChianti Classico
2007 Ricasoli Chianti Classico BrolioChianti Classico

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luca bercelli

90/100

Line of the day – ‘This I pretty much drilled in my opinion. I’m happy where my palate is at.’

Nice episode that tells a lot about Chianti – ie avoid!

Tags: Blind Tasting, chianti, red, review, Video, wine, wines

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  • NY Pete

    Felsina rocks!

  • NY Pete

    Frescobaldi Chianti Rùfina Nipozzano Riserva is my go to Chianti.

  • I went to Chianti about 5 years ago and LOVED some of the wines. Since then, I feel like it’s been getting harder and harder to find good wines from there in the 10-15$ range. (or impossible)

    This brings me to a different point… do you think wine prices are inflating everywhere? I used to think it was some of the more popular value play variatles that were going up as a fad. But now I’m thinking it’s all wine. Either that or my palet is just getting stronger and more discerning (I’m 26 and have been into wine for about 5 years). I know there are still good values in the $18-$30 but it seems like the idea of a value play $10 is getting very hard to find.

  • Alexandre-CF

    You did really great with the brown paper bags. YOU ROX

    QOTD: i’m living chiando right now, i just had the 2006 and 2004 castelo di Brolio and blows my mind. ( the 06 is a baby, so young and powerfull. the other bottles i’m not opening for a long time.

  • Anonymous

    I am not really feeling it with Chianti so much these days. There are a few producers I can get into, but for the price I’d rather have a solid Bordeaux Superieur. I could be off here, but, It seems for the high end top notch Italian wines you have to spend more then you do with similar quality French wines… ???

  • NY Pete

    this one is pretty good too … Monsanto Chianti Classico Reserva

  • Anonymous

    Gary: No offense, but this show seemed rushed.

    QOTD: I like chianti, and I think top level chianti can be a deal when compared to brunello.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed. And w/ international wine tainting (and olive oil,, saffron, and every other fine food commodity) scandals going on, I have inherent ‘trust’ issues with major commodity products. Value often equals untold, shortcuts. Left to its honest reputation, Chianti has much in the way of wiggle room for blending, barrel practice, and vine/yield management, especially in the mid to upper tiers. I don’t often favor big prices in the realm, or grape, yet, Sangiovese (and friends) still can deliver alot of pleasure, from easy casual, to intense, high pedigree (and price). The Monte Anticos, Dogajolos and Cancellis of the world I see, are acceptable for people, as long as you don’t ask it to be anything more than a glass of wine. Fill & spill. Ricardo Cotarella and Franco Bernabei’s skills and recipes/formulas, may be are being strayed from… Yet there are still vast worlds, right there in Chianti, Radda, Greve, and neighbors, who span the range. I’d liked the small names Monsanto, Isole e Olena, (in fact, all 3 of your btls, today should, by rights, have performed mroe than respectabally – bummer!), and more recently been impressed w/ Frank Grace’s Il molino di Grace, and Castello di Romitorio. as others noted, i’m a bigger fan of the wines in Morellino di Scansano.

  • Anonymous

    Frank Family makes a killer Sango that’s almost exclusively available from their website. Sells out fast!

  • Anonymous

    I’m looking forward to the Suckling episode tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how his palate goes up against Gary’s. FWIW I’ll say it now since I won’t tomorrow: I think he was a bit Spectator’s Jay Miller with his frequently high scores & I think his new venture is WAY overpriced, but he is certainly good in front of the camera and I think will make a great WLTV guest.

    QOTD: I don’t mind Chianti but I don’t go out of my way to drink it & haven’t been buying any recently, there’s just too much other interesting stuff out there.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, from out of the woodwork comes a real Eyetalian expert!

  • TheSmirkingLurker

    GV:

    Great tight episode. It’s nice to see that my thoughts about Chianti in general, and its QPR in particular are thoughts that you’ve got too. Quite frankly, I don’t understand why it’s priced the way it’s priced. I have had some really wonderful Chiantis, but never on my dime. It’s not because I’m cheap. Rather, I know I can find a heck of a lot more bang for the buck somewhere else.

    Again, no suckage here.

    ~TSL

  • Anonymous

    Chianti tastings in general are tough, with the wines I would drink to enjoy at home typically show so sour and tannic when served back to back like this. Chianti is just not a wine for contemplation outside of the table at any quality or style.

    However, there is Chianti which genuinely excites me, and that is wines like Bucerchiale and Quattrocentenario which are made from old vines of rare Sangiovese clones, and bring some flavours to the table that cannot be copied by other wines, anywhere. Relative to their peers in Tuscany and Italy in general these wines(sub $50) are screaming value for those unafraid of the esoteric.

  • Anonymous

    Actually tried the frank family Sangio in multi brand sangio wine tasting a couple of weeks back. Nice effort. A little too tannic for me. Their cab is much better.

  • Anonymous

    The key phrase is “similar quality” – which is subjective. Do you go by a critic such as The Wine Advocate’s Antonio Galloni (who reviews Italian wines) and Robert Parker (who reviews Bordeaux) and compare (for instance) two wines that each scored 94 points? In most cases, the Bordeaux would be far more expensive. But in other French areas, you could be correct – there are simply too many factors and variables (such as supply & demand, etc) to take into account for the comparison to be meaningful. In wine, as in most things in life, you get what you pay for.

  • Anonymous

    EVERYTHING is going up. Filled your tank lately? And with that guy in Washington kicking all the rigs out of the Gulf of M, it just gonna get worse. Sorry…for us both.

  • Leatherpalate

    GV you are on point like D Rose. I love love love Chianti. Sausage Pizza and Chianti-nuff said.

  • Anonymous

    In issue #190 of The Wine Advocate, Antonio Galloni scored the 2007 San Felice Chianti Classico Riserva Il Grigio (about $22 in OKC) scored 90 points, although there were many that outscored this wine for even less money. And, generally speaking, the ’06s were even better.

  • Anonymous

    Gotta agree with you on most of the Chianti out there and with so many other great Italian varietals to try instead it’s easy to pass.

  • Gary ~ Focused episode, but I like them a bit more “gary-esque”!
    QOTD: Chianti seems so wimpy and out of date, much prefer a nice Barbera d’Alba or d’Asti, or a Montepulciano d’Abruzzo w/ my Italiano foods. Gonna be missing you in the Big D… but the weather stinks right now, so good for you. KathyD / Kathyintex @wineonwednesday

  • Anonymous

    “Have mercy, been waitin for the bus all day.
    I’ve got my brown paper bag and my take home pay.” -ZZ Top

    QOTD: Chianti. Been so long sense I’ve had a remarkable one I can’t remember where. A tasting I think.

  • Anonymous

    It may have been their claim-to-fame decades ago; today its the Super-Tuscans’ such as Sassicaia, Solaia, Ornellaia, etc. It’s also their claim-to-more-money. ;-}

  • Anonymous

    Love it! Tried it first on the Chianti Road at an old Grandpa’s vino/olio farm. Can’t go for the real expensive now that I’m back in USA but I would want a 20 dollar bottle to be spot on! Love so many kinds of pizzas….we make our own European style…ie. thin crust great mozzarella, but i love bbq chx pizza, marguerite, sausage, NO Seafood or olives please!!!

  • Anonymous

    QOTD — never had much success with chiantis either; maybe they should all be bottled in fiascos!

  • Anonymous

    QOTD – First wine I had was Chianti. In the freshman dorms I went all out for the wine in the basket. I loved it and and after emptying the bottle I turned it into a bad drip candle holder. Needless to say I’m glad I outgrew that stage of my life.

  • Anonymous

    John – recently tasted the 2006 Castell’in Villa Chianti Classico ($23); it was young still, but fantastic. Went home & looked it up on Parker’s w-site: 92 points and one of MANY that scored between 89-92 and none were over $25 (value report, issue 190).
    THAT’S why you should bother with ’em!

  • fat chef

    Love the blind tasting episodes!! Delighted in seeing you nail it with each wine.

    QOTD: I used to steer clear of chianti..not sure why? But I have been trying to expand my pallet and was surprised to learn that I actually enjoy it alot. I’ve bought like 3 or 4 bottles in the last couple of weeks and have not been dissapointed with any of them.
    Morrison’s move in the Rumbe was sick if you havn’t seen it, check it out!!

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to the dark side dude! Enjoyed your company immensely Sunday.

  • Anonymous

    are you referring to the Castello della Paneretta Quattrocentenario or a diff maker?

  • Anonymous

    are you referring to Castello della Paneretta’s Quattrocentenario, or another maker? I am interested in these recommendations… and i like the CdPaneretta Quattrocentenario very much.

  • Anonymous

    +1 (see earlier post!)

  • Anonymous

    I am frightened by all the indented replies and tan background… 😉

  • Anonymous

    Peoples need to be tryin’ more chianti classico. If you haven’t found one you like, you haven’t really tried. Just avoid the cheapest stuff. And avoid all the Ruffino garbage. Spend 15-25 on a bottle and you will start to find GOOD stuff. Felsina, Monsanto, Paneretta, Il Poggione, etc. and most of these are widely available. Come on!

  • Anonymous

    Kahuna – what do you define “rustic” as? To me, rustic brings to mind a wine with hard edges (tannins, acidity) that needs time to come together. Jus’ wondering…

  • Cubatobaco (Ray)

    Love seeing the brown bags! Sad that the Chianti didn’t preform well. I think Kmurph is slipping….lol.

    QOTD: Not a huge Chianti fan, but was hoping to see something on here to try. No dice there. Any recommendations despite your feelings on Chianti as a whole?

  • Cubatobaco (Ray)

    Going to have to try!

  • Cubatobaco (Ray)

    Got to love that line in the movie!

  • Anonymous

    What, cuecards?

  • Anonymous

    Try to figure where that one goes…

  • Anonymous

    A grand question of the day!

    QOTD: My thesis on Chianti is tons of winemakers are throwing out a version of Chianti because everyone knows it. When people think fine Italian wine they think Chianti! So people have flooded wine stores with it and the quality of has dropped greatly. Every time I try a new Chianti its usually too alcoholic for my taste and sometimes just numbs my tongue which is no fun. Hannibal Lecter’s famous saying is becoming less and less true and I hope Chianti turns this around.

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: To Be honest, in my experience people buying Chianti today in the retail sector fall in to 2 catagories / age groups. The super old, the folks who bought it when it was really good or (more commonly) there was not a lot of choice. They buy on nostalgia. And the early to 20s to 30s who have heard the good points of Chianti and the Super tuscans and are feeling a bit radical. In my opinion, me who falls in to neither catagory, I feel they need to get a grip and decide what way the DOCG needs to go. Do they become as strict as the French AOC restricting creativity or let anything go threatening the reputation of the region? I fall on the side of the AOC strictness, insuring the producers make the best wine they can keeping the sense of place and community.
    Whoa, I need a glass of wine after that statement.
    Peace

  • Anonymous

    With all due respect, if chianti’s do it for you, God love you. They just don’t represent ANY sort of QPR in today’s wine glutted market place. I come accross 20-30 wines every year that score 89+ that are under $10 and many of them are $7 & $8! In my world $23-$25 wines for the most part have to be in the 92-94 range for me to feel all gooey about them. And they’re out there. Just watching Gary’s vlog will make you aware of that. Perhaps being 64 puts a different slant on it for me also. I’ve completed my wine exploration for the most part. I presently have over 25 wine growing states or countries represented in my cellar. I drink what I like. Chianti just isn’t a wine category that makes me sing.

  • Anonymous

    Did you know that in the book Lecter did not say Chianti but instead, Amarone?

  • Anonymous

    Nice fact!

  • Chianti thesis: there’s too much well-priced, well-made wine out there to be going for Chianti. “Everyday” wines can cost $10-15 and still be very enjoyable – think Nero d’Avola from Sicily or the many Portuguese reds that fall within this category. The majority of these and many others will be far superior to most similarly-priced Chianti’s.

  • Anonymous

    Been away for a while. Been lurking for the past few episodes. Been meaning to post a comment. Chianti hasn’t passed over this palate in a long long time. It was always so disappointing. Especially when there is so much other great Italian wine to explore. Thanks for the update and for taking one for the team. Nice to be back.

  • I wasn’t feeling it this episode. I guess with the wine’s under-performance and the fact I just got out of class did it to me.

    QOTD: I used to love Chianti Classico Riserva about 10 years ago…I haven’t drank it much as of late. I drink way more Montepulciano or other offerings from Italia.

  • On the last point, it seems like a tossup to me. Then again, have you seen any $500+ ’05 Barolos?

  • Anonymous

    Not sure if Sangiovese and Chianti are interchangeable but I really liked a 100% Sangiovese wine I had recently. It was clean pure and I like the minerality. It reminded me of salted sour-cherry juice or sweat tarts. If it were a musical instrument it would be the triangle. It was: 2009 Ceregio Sangiovese di romagna superiore, Fattoria Zerbina.

    I had an expensive, ($22) chianti and I was not very impressed, though it was ok. That ‘s about all the Sangiovese wine I’ve had, but I like the sour minerality of them.

  • Finally! Someone who spells “palate” correctly…

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