2004 Vintage Bordeaux, A Timing Thing

2004 Vintage Bordeaux, A Timing Thing – Episode #414

February 22, 2008

We are going with Intense Friday instead of laid back Friday because I think there is a real opportunity to learn and exploit a huge oppertunity and I want to make sure all the Vayniacs out there have a chance to score!

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2004 Chateau Clos De L’oratoireSt Emilion
2004 Chateau Haut BrissonSt Emilion
2004 Clos Les LunellesOther Red Bordeaux
2004 Chat CanonSt Emilion
2004 Chateau Leoville Las CasesSt Julien

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February 23, 2008

Snogging
LOL…”What is the oak monster doing going to travelosity…” Soo Funny!
February 23, 2008

Sassodoro
Good show, Gary! I noticed that 4 of the 5 wines today were from the right bank of Bordeaux. Is that just coincidence, or did the right bank tend to do better than the left in 2004?
February 23, 2008

Antony
I’m down with Bordeaux – deep down. I haven’t tasted enough of the 04 to have a firm opinion – or frankly of other vintages to compare – but I do think, in general terms, that Bordeaux can be fantastic value. 05 may be an exception but I have learnt, through many bitter disappointments, that Bordeaux under Â£10 – particularly when on “Special Offer’ – is bad news. Stretch to Â£20, however, and you are in a world class league – the second wine of Lascombes is a bit of a fave’ in this department. Bordeaux is such great wine and if you are rolling deep surely offers tremendous value – particularly if compared to ‘icons’ from other parts of the world. I went futures this year for the first time and scraped up enough cash to by cases of Clerc Millon 05 and Arrosee 06 (plus two relative cheapie 05s… and one other 05 that certainly wan not a cheapy and I daren’t talk about). The Clerc and Arrosee will end up costing me under Â£30 a bottle and provide immense pleasure and interest on special occasions for the next 20 years. That, to me, is great value! I just got to say one other thing. It may be the way that exchange rates work – the pound has only recently plummeted against the euro – but 06 doesn’t seem such bad value to me.
February 23, 2008

Carly
QOTD: is this wine-only gut feeling? I had a gut feeling about a “lemon plum” I saw in the grocery store, which turned out to be delicious….though I had to wait 10 days for the damn thing to ripen.
Wine-wise, I bought a cheap Portuguese wine (with your suggestion in mind) that was SO delicious I drank the whole bottle by myself in two hours. I just couldn’t stop drinking it! (2001 Porta do Fontelo Dao))

Great show!
February 23, 2008

DirtWineKen
Great Show!! QOTD: This is my all time favorite wine story. In the mid 70’s, I walked into a wine shop in Madison, NJ (had never been there before) and near the front door was a basket filled with wine bottles and a sign saying: “Cooking Wine $.99″!! That’s right — less than 1 bone. I looked at the lable– Savigny Lavieres 1959. Bear in mind that, back then, It was only 15 years old tops. My wine experience was limited then, but it called out to me from the basket: “BUY ME, KEN” So I did, a case. It was the first of three cases I eventually bought ($12 a case!!!) and it was superb. Sure, there were a couple of clinkers gone sour in each case (probably the reason customers complained and it winding up in that basket). When I went back for my fourth case it was back up on the shelf with the other burgs at ten times the price. I guess the owner finally sampled a bottle himself, damn!
February 23, 2008

davidB
qotd – it is a toss up but I think my dog Toby as I took him in while doing volunteer work for a rescue place and never gave him back – 5 yrs later he is still with us and a great part of the family. Added bonus he cost nothing, talk about QPR
February 23, 2008

OmarG
the twizzler 2×4, the BigBoy 2nd grader, and VEGGIES!! hilarious..
great show

Purchase: A hunch that the BluRay format would beat our HDDVD. Whew…it worked out!
February 23, 2008

Len
Great episode! Enjoyed it a lot…don’t know much about Bordeaux’s …will have to change my thoughts on French wines and give it a try. QOTD Watching WLTV and you bringing the thunder.
February 23, 2008

Matt
Great show as always!
February 23, 2008

Rich
Great Friday show. I like the intense, educational Friday.
February 23, 2008

Katherine
I was in ALDI (cheap food grocery store) the other day and there were three bottles of a 2005 Bordeaux, believe it or not. I snapped them up. Don’t know if they are any good, but at only $7 a bottle, it’s at least worth a try.

QOTD: My dog Sophie. Got her from the Humane Society. Best gut purchase I ever made by far… I walked in and there she was, and my gut said “this is your dog.” Here she is about a year and a half ago: http://tinyurl.com/2uzfv7
February 23, 2008

Klassh
How is that French pronunciation book that-that Vayniac gave you coming along? You could learn a thing or two from Jeffrey Davies.
February 23, 2008

gregg
you are wild, man! the 04’s rock, and I knew it all along, like 2 years ago when I was working in a wineshoppe in greenhills with josh, rick, courtney, dave, denny, and the master of ceremony… Ed. anyway, I’m enjoying you enjoy your wines. you should have me on as a guest. you should drink the 2005 green lion merlot, 06 the scooter by mollydooker, and the 06 Quincy cuvee.
February 23, 2008

JOEL M
GV keep the hidden value vintages coming. I am going to buy a ton over the next six months if I can find them. Great show as always. Joel M
February 23, 2008

Achilleas in Cyprus
Excellent show.

Will be looking for some 2004 Bordeaux here in Cyprus.

QOTD: Taking a chance on moving from England where I was born to Cyprus where my parents are from. Best choice and biggest risk I ever made.
February 23, 2008

dave from Osaka (thunderball)
Rad show today. Best gut-feeling thing I ever bought was probably a really nice handmade acoustic guitar…cost alot but has paid for itself many times over. It makes me want to play and lets me sound as good as my skill level will allow. Life is too short to play bad guitars and drink crappy wine.
February 23, 2008

Dan C.
QOTD: wow … gut feeling purchase … ummm I rarely make those I’m not very spontaneous … but probably my HDTV … that one was pretty spur of the moment.

Fun show GV … got some Bordeaux in the mail, an 04 and 05 … so ill be testing those out on the pal next week.
February 23, 2008

J Crazy
QOTD: Mike Tyson’s Knockout, and bottle off 98 or 99 Marylin Merlot. Asked my dad to pick up the bottle cuz I thought the label was pretty hot. Got it for 12 bucks and sold it recently for 500 plus, good ROI hey.

Long Live Sir Vaynerchuck
Thunder Bringer
Lord Thunderchuck!
…I like that “Thunder Chuck” Yo, Gary, for your next intro try it out for size: “Hello, everybody I’m your host Baron Von Thun Der Chuck!”
February 23, 2008

Brian Walch
QOTD: asking my wife to marry me! Can’t figure the ROI on that! Now, tell me what I gotta do to get NJ to allow shipping to Alaska! No more lurkin’ – love your show!
February 23, 2008

Remps108
QOTD: Way on back in the day, when the twentieth century was still in diapers, everyone was saying, “The horseless carriage will never catch on.” But I believed down to my soul that they would, and I disputed them all, predicting that one day, everyone would be driving an automobile. The naysayers scoffed and laughed, but that didn’t stop me from buying one of the first Model T’s off the lot. I went with my gut, and I never looked back. And here we are today living in a world where every five seconds, somewhere in the world, someone crashes their car into something that isn’t air.

And they said it would never catch on.
February 23, 2008

billr
Nice show….

QOTD: A little red headed thing from San Antonio named Betty, only $20 bucks and oh so nice…..OOOOPPPPPSSS, wrong show…:):):):):):)

A covered up mint conditioned imported 1955 VW Bug with 13,452 miles on it found in a barn in DeKalb Texas for a $100 dollar bill about 12 years ago. Cleaned out the juel tank, carb and put in fresh gas, started right up. Sold last year to a collector for $20,000 grand…..OOOOPPPPSSS, wrong show agin.
February 23, 2008

Dennis D
Excellent show, Gary! I learn something every episode. Keep bringing it my friend!!!!!!
February 23, 2008

Withnail
QOTD: a camera lens.
Awesome episode; best in awhile.
February 23, 2008

Nickyb85
QOTD: I do believe that Bordeaux’s no matter what vintage provide a promising future. It is a region that (as you said) can not expand any further than it already has, thus brining a certain level of demand. It has the pedigree to produce exceptional wine no matter what the year brings it. But at 1,500 a case… damn! I need to get my foot in the door! Soon, due to complete global competition it will be even harder to secure wines from this region. The sooner the better I say. Also, support your local wineries, no-matter what they produce (as long as it is not filth), one day your region might be the next Bordeaux!!!
February 23, 2008

Dan C.
alright 27 minute Epi! Woo!

also I think that Nathan has a great question there down below.