India. Great shows while I was away. Sorry i missed the super tasting, but I made the football pilgrimage to Green Bay.

Kirkland Pauillac? They actually CALL it Pauillac?

Meh. Costco wine selections have never really done it for me, but maybe it’s a matter of geography.

QOD1: China if it’s red, India if it’s white.
QOD2: Michio Kaku.

QOTD: CHINA When Cheetara and I are kicking back at home on Third Earth we like to enjoy a good Cab. I bet you China would make an interesting Cab that we’d like to try.

Tim, Tim, Tim

That was hilarious, made me snort my wine! A very thoughtful spoof that only a WLTV junkie could appreciate. Notice Gary had the Merlot and Tim had the Cab, but who’s counting.

QOTD: India, because their food seems more interesting.

That spoof was the funniest thing I’ve seen in at least a year. I don’t remember when was the last time I’ve laughed that much. I don’t normaly sit at my computer laughing out loud. thanks for the laugh!

Gary

Best show ever!
China
http://www.winebusiness.com/specialsection/2005/Top30Wineries.cfm?winery=4

I drank ‘Two Buck Chuck’ for a week while camping at the Grand Canyon. It goes well with any meal. Solid wine. However, some wines are for drinking but not for tasting!

Gary, keep looking for the ones that are for tasting!

Because it’s what I know, I’ll vote for China.

There are some remaining links in China to European vineyards/wineries from the early 20th Century when French, German, and Russians lived in Shanghai. A famous example that still exists: Tsingtao beer–from the Germans.

My experience with Chinese wines has been pretty unremarkable so far, although I look forward to doing more ‘research’ next time I visit. That said, the Chinese have made pretty remarkable sherries and plum wines FOREVER. (Ex: Shaoxing near Hangzhou in coastal Zhejiang province.)

My crystal ball says:

1. Look to Shandong Province in northeast coastal China (where Tsingtao/Qingdao is located) for the best Chinese wines. The climate & geography is right for grapes. Look for interesting varietals from Shandong in the next 5 years.

2. In the near term, Chinese will design wines that satisfy the tastes of their domestic market. The Chinese are surely developing a taste for wine. But broadly speaking, let’s just say consumer tastes are still maturing… Therefore, until wines are designed for the export market, we may not experience finely crafted wines from China. Chinese wineries are already looking to Europe and American expertise as they develop their own wine craftmanship. This is usually prominently displayed on the label that describes the joint venture.

3. Water and air pollution can’t be good for grape growing. The air is getting so polluted in China that it’s choking out the sunlight…

4. As Chinese develop a taste for wine (and they WILL), Chinese buying power will increase prices worldwide as they import more prestigious wines from Europe, America, and other places. (Same said for India.)

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Gary… you raised the issue. But I don’t see anything on WL.com from China or India. Why not stock some cases? They may not be quality wines by U.S. standards, but they would be a novelty. Here’s your marketing gimmick: the two-buck Chan.

TimF…TimF…TimF…TimF…TimF…TimF

Not that you need any more KUDOS, but Kudos to you.

Absolutely hysterical for all VanIACS/Wine Librarians in the ever-growing VaynerNATION (

I can start another spreadsheet for your picks, but you’ll need to put me in touch with your organizations’ Sir Brian Woolley in order to create the weblink.

thanks for the belly laugh

P.S. left the house @ 3:30PM with my 3 boys to go to Shea for Game 1 of Mets/Cards. 5 hours later and $70 lighter wallet (food/gas/tolls/parking). The most annoying thing is that the parking costs $20, but is not reimbursed…I’ll have to pay that again….just plain WRONG!!
Let’s Go Mets

QOD #2- I am going with Nils Venge he can drink Hawkins under the table

QOD #1-I am going with India-

Gary I am Making my wine on Thursday will not be using your recipe though – Cab Sauv, Merlot, Zin, Carignane fermented together with a little Pasteur Red yeast! Three to four week extended maceration should get 53 gallons of heaven!

QOD #2- I am going with Nils Venge he can drink Hawkins under the table

QOD #1-I am going with India-

Gary I am Making my wine on Thursday will not be using your recipe though – Cab Sauv, Merlot, Zin, Carignane fermented together with a little Pasteur Red yeast! Three to four week extended maceration should get 53 gallons of heaven!

Gary – THANK YOU for tasting GARBAGE ORIENTED WINE so we don’t have to!
On the Costco dialog (above) I’m curious to hear back on the Kirkland Pauillac Bordeaux tasting! I saw it in the store today and wasn’t willing to part with the $30 to try it – I too have had only disappointments in the wines I’ve purchased from Costco. In fact, I recently told my husband to grab my hand and pull it away from the wine if he saw me trying to buy any at Costco! And then – tonight – he let me break my personal moratoreum and buy a bottle of 2002 (not considered a terrific vintage for Bordeaux wines) cru Burguois, $8.99, we brought it right home, decanted and drank it. I’m going back tomorrow for a BUNCH before it’s gone. So – who can say?! Let’s hear about the Kirkland Pauillac!
Tim – that was BEYOND great! If Gary is unable to uphold his duties as the WLTV host, you could easily take his place and (with a little work from a good colorist/stylist) nobody would even know he was missing!

Nice spoof TimF! Really great job.

I’d take China over India as long as its not rice wine.

QOD – Alright, I’m cheating a little because I have some insider scoop. The answer is most definitely China.

The Super Tasting was AMAZING!! Not only were the wines outstanding, but the food was fabulous, too. Furthermore, there were not so many attendees that you had to wait at any table (I didn’t have to, anyway). What a well-organized and well-executed event. Thanks so much, Gary and Wine Library!…and thanks, Gary for the shout-out. It was wonderful to meet you. As a regular viewer, I feel as though I know you.

Huge thanks to Jim for helping me select all of those wines today at WL. I just unpacked my 2 cases and can’t wait to order the next three. Also, thanks to the WL guy that gave me directions back to the Interstate (I didn’t think I would ever in my natural life meet someone that could talk faster than myself).

Gary, two wines I’d like to ask you to taste…the first is the Aurus (WL8252). It was sampled at table 19 yesterday. The battle back and forth between fruit and black pepper was like Rock’em Sock’em Robots to me. I’ve never experienced anything like that before in a wine. It was beyond flavor layering. Secondly, I’d like to ask you to taste Dehesa de Rubiales Alaia 2002. The aromatic is so powerful I swear I could smell it as I poured it from the bottle (I’m enjoying it right now…and I think it’s amazing and an embarrassing value!!). Very curious to know how you would rate it.

Cheers,
Denise

P.S. I’m so sad about the Rosenblum wines review(s)! I met Dr. Rosenblum very early in my wine journey and was so inspired by his career-changing story (he used to be a veterinarian). Oh, well.

Hey Thats lice wine!

I actually already tried Indian wine. It was called Sula chenin blanc was good for $8-$10.

I actually already tried Indian wine. It was called Sula chenin blanc was good for $8-$10.

Dougiefresh — Usually the Indian guys I work with take me to a buffet to eat Indian food and I get sick from it on a regular basis. I’ve finally made the statement that I’ll never eat off an Indian buffet again as long as I live. Good Indian food can be very good, but the tastes tend to be very homogenous to me. I love Chinese food, it’s one of my very favorites. I love dim sum best of all. I get the chrysanthemum tea and just start pulling everything off the cart that comes by. The variety of dishes is great. Also, duck is one of my favorite foods and the Chinese really know how to make duck well…

QOD: China

First post. Gary, you’re doing great and more importantly youre getting better at it. Thanks.

QOD: China has more potential to produce excellent wine (geographical advantage), but India will consume and acquire more wine than China in the short term (culture difference).

QOD #2: Paul Chu (superconductivity rules!) and Werner Heisenberg (Uncertainly principle? forget about it!)

Question for Gary: You mentioned you pair food and wine in an unconventional manner. Doesn’t that affect the taste of the food and wine in a negative way? I can understand if you are experimenting, but you can’t be serious. From my experience, most wine and food pair together according to the old rules. There are exceptions, but not very many. How do you think?

Hi Gary, Do you have a favorite type of wine opener? I have one of the “rabbit” types which is easy for me to use but breaks frequently. Any suggestions? Thanks.

I heard that Lidle flew his plane into the building where Torre and A-Rod live. Any thruth to that? Tim F good stuff still laughing about the heat episode. No more Duck and egg rolls they are no good for you.

Great episode, Gary. Nice to see you dismiss the wines you did not like, and tell us the reasons why. The Ramey sounds good.
China…but it has to come from the Yangtze valley, or that really rustic wine from the winery in outer Mongolia (with its famous yak butter nose).
I actually would like to see an episode on wines produced in regions I don’t think about much like Turkey, Lebanon, China, India, South Africa, or the Kentish Pinot Noir. Thanks again for the education and the laughs, Jim

Gary,
QOTD: Guess you read the NYTimes article today in the Dining Out section with the India/China thing at the end….I was wondering the same thing. I think that India will do better since China is a communist country that will probably discourage variety and entrepreneurship in its wine industry. The communist view is against speculation and this would be a blow for importers maybe.

Next time, please try the Yalumba Meritage you guys carry(Code: 9173). I’ve had their grenache from you before and it was really good.

QOD – China is my answer and the timing of your question is interesting. The guy in the office next to me is a fresh Yale MBA and lived in China most of his life. Just so happens today we talked about wine. Many of his friends feel drinking wine is very much a status symbol especially in China. However to make it last and to improve the taste (to them), he and many of his friends all add Sprite to whatever wine they are having. He asked me what a good wine to buy from Costco would be to mix Sprite with and I told him to go to Trader Joes. LOL

TimF – nice work!

Don from Seattle – perhaps the Chinese appetite for wine will bail out the situation the French are experiencing.